I am cranky. It seems after countless articles, conversations and debates about drugs in animals intended for food consumption, we are STILL having the argument about drugs and withdrawal times. I have seen many of the readers of this blog, make valiant attempts at educating the PSAs (pro-slaughter advocates) and nothing sinks in. They seem to think that the whole banned drug issues is something the anti-slaughter people came up with to throw a roadblock across the path to mass murder of our equine friends. Because I am a glutton for punishment, I’m going to attempt to tackle this another way and maybe just one of them will experience a moment of clarity. I’m not going to hold my breath though….
banned past participle, past tense of ban(Verb)
1. Officially or legally prohibit
2. Officially exclude (someone) from a place
There’s your definition. It would seem pretty clear to me. However, I am not a PSA and I do not have access to the drugs they must smoke. They are STILL operating under the misguided notion that there is a way to get around the EU ban on certain drugs in food producing animals. Some of the little brainiacs even think that the EU ban on Bute and other drugs is just some big conspiracy to keep American horses out of their food chain so they don’t flood the market. I guess the little statistic that pretty much the same number of US horses get slaughtered each year as did before 2007 doesn’t register with them. The only difference is where it is happening. I do appreciate that the whole concept is likely too abstract for most of them, so I’m going directly address some of their more recent idiocy.
“So here is a big question for all people out there. Bute. Although I’m not sure I heard it mentioned too much before the AR’s realized that the horse slaughter ban was not working and there was indeed going to be a push for horse slaughter to come back. Now as I see it Logically. I get the fact that it’s something that is not to be put in the food chain. It’s not about that. It’s about a withdrawal time. Now Anti’s will say “there is no withdrawal time for bute” And technically they are correct. There is no DOCUMENTED. And I stress the word “documented” over and over again. a withdrawal time for bute simply does not exists in horses because. It has never been tested for. And really that makes sense. Why test a drug in a animal that there is no slaughter for human consumption for in your country at the time. But it doesn’t mean it does not have a withdrawal time that can be discovered. Cattle have a withdrawal time for all the same drugs. So it’s not a the drugs that lingers in the blood stream for the life time of the animal. I also like to say re treating of the animal is needed which would also lend itself to the concept that the liver of the horse purifies itself of all the drug that is ingested. See I think once a withdrawal date is figured out it would be extremely simple to work around the problem. A simple quarantine would do the trick. 30 days in a feedlot for example. what do you think?”
– There is no withdrawal time for a drug that is BANNED. Bute will mostly leave the blood stream within 48 hours. That does not mean that the carcinogens have left the animal’s body. So, while Slaughterhouse Sue has told everybody they are going to test for drugs prior to slaughter, that will do no good as you would need to be able to take a tissue sample of something like the liver in order to ensure safety for the food supply. The same way a person can take Cocaine and give a clean blood sample within days, yet a hair sample months later will show that drug was ingested, so do banned substances linger. No cow used in any way for food consumption is allowed to be given Bute after 6mths of age, so saying there is a withdrawal time is wrong. Grey horses are not usually slaughtered for human consumption due to cancer markers. Painting them another color will not change that nor will holding a horse for 3o days rid its system of carcinogens when they have been administered banned substances. “Banned means BANNED.
“No need to worry much about what will be approved and for what withdrawal time. Markets demand issue free food sources. A quick test of the animal to show it is substance free and it gets the stamp on its butt and off it goes. First nations have 100,000 animals that are good to go till the rest of the market gets in line. Its like sports testing , what ever happened before is mute as long as the test comes out good. Export operations have other countries to deal with other then the US so why would they even consider trying to convince any of them that this or that is safe. I always wondered why the pro people just don’t give the AR’s a win on the bute issue and move on. Trying to convince anyone that any chemical will be OK come a certain point is a tough sell.”
– I’m now banging my head on my desk….
“But to get it done right now you need to figure something out you know what? What if you tested after they were hung? any part of the horse can be tested then and could you not put a horse to different uses. Say if she has bute she’s fertilizer…, kind of a deal.”
– This poor ignorant soul wants to test each and every carcass now. He clearly has no concept of what is involved with testing or the amount of time it takes. I find the suggestion of making `fertilizer’ out of the carcasses of animals with drugs in their tissues puzzling, when the majority of PSAs will tell you they don’t want to chemically euthanize their animals for fear of ground water contamination. I guess they are just fine with spraying toxicity all over our crops though. Remember that Dallas Crown in Kaufman, Texas was unable to sell it’s blood products due to the toxicity. Here is yet another reminder on how testing works for exported carcasses: (/https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/anybody-want-a-bute-burger)
“EU isn’t the only market for horses; Asiatic countries count for a great deal if the market. And since we have been giving Bute for decades and slaughter has only been banned 5-6 years for human consumption, why is this an issue now? Test the meat like they always do, always have done, always will do (just like beef, pork, poultry) and move on.”
– Don’t you just love this mindset that if we can’t offload our drug tainted meat on the EU, we’ll just pick on another country that doesn’t have the checks in place yet? Nevermind the fact that countries like Japan prefer the horses to be shipped live and they don’t really account for a large portion of the market because of the cost of that. It is an issue now because the EU made it an issue now. There is no way around the July 2013 deadline for having a passport system in place. None. Nada. Canada being a major exporter has only been testing for Bute and other banned substances for less than two years. Prior to that the only thing they tested horse meat for was trichinosis (roundworms). Why? Because we know some things now that we didn’t before. Just like cigarette smoking wasn’t always known to be so bad for you, so they advertised on TV and everywhere else. Now we know better. Same thing with Bute and other banned drugs. We know better now. Guess what? Coca Cola doesn’t have cocaine in it anymore either.
“Yes it is about choice…., that is what AR’s want to do take away your choice. You really haven’t understood this page at all have you? It’s simple AR’s are lying to push there agenda down every ones throat. we explain it to people why they are lies. The more I talk to you the more I understand you don’t care about folks choice to do what they deem right. Your more about controlling the slaughter issue. we discussed bute allot of good examples were given to get around Bute and you bring up Marketing…, Now is that a real reason to stop slaughter? don’t think so. Cause it is the owners of the plants choice to do it correctly If they wanna take the chance that the market may not be there later. Where does that concern you? It doesn’t. But because you are a anti you make it your decision to try to push beliefs on any body who will listen.., that’s not going to work here. If you don’t like the way the page is run don’t comment it’s not hard to understand really.”
– And here we go with the `choice’ thing. Nobody is stopping this asshat from slaughtering and eating his own horses. Not a single person. He fails to recognize that taxpayers have a CHOICE whether or not to fund an industry known to be barbaric and that only profits foreign investors. The vast majority of people do NOT want to fund this. I hear it’s something like 80%. Imagine that!
“EU law has bute as illegal. EU law also requires passports for all horses-both slaughter bound and those who are not. One of the passports that is recognized by the EU is the FEI passport. The FEI has just recently allowed bute in competition horses in the last few years. To me, this shows that they are open to change. that’s just a thought.”
– I have now given myself a concussion from banging my head on the desk. This poor ignorant soul has NO idea the expense and pain in the ass it will be to implement this system. If you want your horse to be in the food chain, you will get the pleasure of paying for the micro-chipping and also calling a vet to administer each and every drug or treatment to that horse for the course of its life. If you choose to ignore that rule and that horse turns up in the food chain with tainted meat, it’s coming back to bite you on the ass. For a group of people given to paranoia and distinctly adverse to having the government all up in their business, they are about to open a great big can of whoop-ass on themselves. It should be a point and laugh extravaganza!
I genuinely commend the anti-slaughter people that take the time to try to explain things to these people. You have far more patience than I could ever hope to have and you have all done your research. They do not want to hear the truth. They do not want alternate solutions because that will mean they have to change the way they do things. PSAs are not people that respect or appreciate animals, especially horses. In the last few days, just look at what this blog has been about. They find torturing and abusing horses to be entertainment. If something can’t cry or say `ouch’, they don’t think it has feelings or emotions. Lucky for us, these people not only don’t make up the majority of the population, they don’t make up the majority of the horse industry. They are the bottom feeders and they hold no power at all. I’ve come to realize that engaging any of them in a dialogue about horse slaughter is merely for entertainment purposes in the same way poking an anthill was when I was a kid.
I’m going to leave you with a couple of links that are important if you want something done. The first is the letter writing campaign to save North American horses from slaughter. The link will give you an overview and give you contacts depending on your country. It is in support of passing Senate Bill 1176 and House Bill 2966 the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act and passing Canadian Bill C-322 ,an act to amend the Health of Animals Act and the Meat Inspection Act (slaughter of horses for human consumption). Deadlines are rapidly approaching. The second link is the response to Slaughterhouse Sue’s petition to the USDA and is from John Holland, president of the Equine Welfare Alliance. Please take the time to read it as it is very succinct and to the point. By all means continue to amuse yourself with the PSAs as even they need to be useful, but please take the time to read up on real and meaningful things you can do to end this fight once and for all.