Well folks, it seems like Slaughterhouse Sue has finally found a YouTube video she finds worthy of sharing with everybody. It’s a fascinating piece on the unwanted horse issue. If you are ADD like I tend to be, you can watch the 7 minute version, or if you have a strong stomach for bullshit, you can wade right in and watch the hour version. In the interest of not boring the crap out of y’all and my own inherent laziness, I’ll recap the short version and leave you on your own for the longer one. They are sharing this little fictional piece far and wide and hoping to sway legislators with it. They even have a narrator with a faux British accent to make it seem more important. I guess they finally realized that the hick speak most of them engage in isn’t getting them all that far. Are you ready to be entertained?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yffOu1SZZIY&feature=share
Ok, remember this video is about UNWANTED horses. That part is important since they use pictures of Secretariat in their opening. There probably are very few horses that have been less unwanted so I’m really not getting the point of that. I’m also going to go right ahead and guess that the use of his image in a pro-slaughter video is not authorized given the stance of his former connections on the slaughter issue.
NEVER spent a day being unwanted in his life…
Surprisingly, the video openly acknowledges how repugnant that the majority of the population in the US find the idea of eating horse meat as well as the horse’s importance in our culture and development. They even use warm fuzzy pictures of children with their horses before it all heads south. The video talks about the $65 million export value of slaughtered horses prior to 2007, but neglects to mention that the large majority of that money went straight overseas with the carcasses. This video does not say where they get their stats from but make mention of the fact that non-profit shelters spent something like $50 million caring for unwanted horses in 2009 and that taxpayers are handing out `millions to care for unwanted horses’. Strangely, they don’t make any mention of how much it costs the taxpayer to fund USDA inspections on horse slaughter houses and how little they put back into the US economy. If you go to the Kaufman zoning link on the side bar you can see where Dallas Crown paid a grand total of $5 in taxes one year. Given the fact that most workers in slaughter houses are minimum wage and the problems it has caused hosting communities, horse slaughter actually COSTS the taxpayer. That is the real and well documented fact of the horse slaughter business.
Next they move onto the wild horse and burro population and that nearly half a billion dollars have been spent maintaining them. I have to admit I’m not as up to speed on the BLM issues as I should be. My focus has mainly been the domestic horse population, although I’m very anti-slaughter for any equid. My opinion on the wild horse issue is probably not a popular one, but I see most of the problems being human created. We stepped in and took out natural selection, now we have a mess on our hands. No, natural selection is not pretty at times, but it works. Sadly, it’s probably gone way too far for that to be viable by now so once again, humans screw up due to their own greed and the animals pay the price. Lovely. Naturally they blame the problem on animal rights advocates, when in fact it probably has more to do with the wild horses and other wildlife being displaced by humans and our greed. What city doesn’t have reports about some wild creature that has wandered into a yard and caused an uproar?
They pack a lot of propaganda into a short 7 minutes, I’ll give them that. They also do some extremely dodgy math predicting that by 2016 there will be something like one million unwanted horses. I guess that means that nobody will or has cut back on breeding and that not a single horse will die between now and then. Again, no source for their stats, but they sure sound impressive, do they not? They talk about the `enormous expense’ in transporting horses to Canada or Mexico for slaughter, but they don’t mention that’s not on the taxpayer or that in some cases, it will be even further for them to ship to Oregon if D-bag gets his way and opens his plant there. The video actually states that some unlucky horses have owners that can’t afford the cost of shipping to slaughter. Huh? Also kinda tired of hearing how things are so much less strict and humane in Canada. Pretty sure they operate under what would be the same guidelines and design that US slaughter houses have and would. Lies of omission again….They even give us this huge increase in horse abuse stat that is `verified’, but they neglect to say where it came from. In short, it’s a load of crap, but go ahead and watch it for yourself. Anybody with the intellect of a dull carrot will see right through their lies.
This is about how the PSAs draw their conclusions….
Ok, let’s talk about inconvenient truths. As we are all aware, PSAs tend to minimize the whole Bute issue surrounding horse meat and the fact that horses are not generally raised for human consumption on this side of the pond. Several of them have stepped up with stories about either consuming Bute themselves or knowing `oldtimers’ that have taken it all their lives. Some of them have even suggested that Bute is perfectly safe but only banned because nobody has bothered to do an FDA approved study on it yet. In fact, I believe Angela Marshall was even offering to fund such studies with her food stamps and welfare checks! Well, recent news out of Singapore is that somebody has died from ingesting Bute. (http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC121004-0000033/Woman-dies-after-taking-illegal-health-products). “In August this year, the patient consumed Flutulang, which her son bought in Indonesia. The HSA said she had assumed it was safe after a relative consumed it without any problems. Unknown to her, the product was tainted with phenylbutazone, which was responsible for a similar serious adverse reaction she suffered in 2006…….This time, the woman developed a similar life-threatening skin reaction and died” The article goes on to mention another woman falling ill after taking a product that contained dexamethasone aka azium, which is also a very common medication given to horses. It should be very interesting to see whether or not the PSAs acknowledge this at all or how they’ll spin it if they do. That’s the problem with their `facts’. They are very selective on what facts they give out and how they frame them. If you really want the truth, you’re best to seek it out yourself and do so with an open mind.
The second video has been around for a long little while now and sue hawkcd it then too
It’s almost comical in its omissions
God forbid that they tell the truth ever..Pathological liars..all of them..so true..
like water graphic, shows how people can twist facts to suit their own agendas. i haven’t watched this video, but am familiar with propaganda by now. can’t figure out why they wont address ‘unwanted ‘ horse problem at the source. it seems obvious to me. horses should not be worth more dead than alive, it just doesnt add up.
ps. i’m sure that the EU will be impressed with Asswipe Marshall’s research.
Pity she can’t research birth control…
I see they’ve disabled the comments on the video so that no one can embarrass them by presenting facts and evidence. The claim about 1,000,000 horses in 2016 is an outrageous claim. Of course their is no support for this hypothesis. And there’s never been an expectation that UH or other pro-slaughter groups provide facts, because they rely on fear-mongering and conspiracy theories to whip their followers into a frenzy.
Graphs and charts without references to their source (which could easily have been provided at the end) are obvious attempts to fool unsophisticated people into believing their prima facie claims.
So “animals rights activists created the problem in the first place?” And the “Lucky ones are transported a few thousand miles to Canada and Mexico?” I’d like to know what fumes these people are huffing.
The graph said `verified’ so we should just accept that like the rest of their blind followers. For some reason these people are very impressed with graphs. I’m actually quite surprised they didn’t throw a pie chart in for good measure!
Anybody know how much Angela Marshall has raised so far in her quest to help the FDA establish withdrawal times for bute? Maybe somebody has a pie chart, graph, or one of those thermometer thingies that shows the donations as mercury rising……just so we can see how much progress she’s made to-date.
LMAO!
It would have been a pie chart or horse sh—
I meant a pie chart of horse sh—. Sorry
I, as a tax payer, am happy to hand out money for unwanted horses.
I also could not believe how much they distorted the facts. The $50 million that rescues spent didn’t go into the economy? How clever.
Good point….I guess rescues don’t buy feed, use farriers, vets and other equine related services. Only dead horses support the horse industry according to the PSAs…
True!!
Reminds me of that oldie but goodie ‘Reefer Madness’ movie. I so wanted to comment, completely deflated when I saw the comments disabled, but that’s what propaganda is all about isn’t it?
That was one of the funniest movies ever! Yes, it’s quite a bit like that!
I get so fed up and angry at these PSA asstards that I have less than hospitable feelings towards them. How does one tell they’re lying? Well for one their lips are moving! Really I’d like to be able to vomit in their open mouths that’d shut them up quickly when they open them. They make me ‘ill’! What’s even sadder is that they procreate and perpetuate their ignorance on succeeding generations! The thought of much needed ‘humane’ sterilization comes to mind. *gags, then goes to the toilet to vomit!*
~”I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: ‘O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.’ And God granted it.” – Voltaire~
You know it Darryl….
1 million unwanted horses? Isn’t this the same woman who claimed horses would go extinct if they didn’t slaughter them? What exactly are her flakes frosted with?
I’m thinking maybe crack?
Yes. This broad has to be a crackhead..
Anyone know how to contact Ms Chennery and Family?
How about Claiborne Farm or the photographer that took the pic of Secretariat? Something tells me those photo’s “officially” belong to those entities.
p.s. Secretariat stood at the Hancock’s Claiborne, right?
Good idea denise, I’d like to see someone file suit against them for using his name and image.
Not sure they’d go that far, but the use of his image is insulting on so many different levels.
Thanks Jo-Claire for making the calls and getting the video pulled.
oh BUT its ok for this BLOG to take photos off of pages and place them here without that persons ok. There is NO copyright on that photo and if so anyone can use it, is that NOT what you all say. Sort of contridicted yourselfs there. lets call the PSA out on the use of a horse photo,but by golly when you all are called out about using copyrighted photos on here or taken from other pages, its ok?
Well you can try and have the photos removed if you think they are infringing on copyright. Didn’t work out so well for Mendy, but go ahead. I always give you credit and I certainly don’t use them saying you are in support of slaughter. THe fact is that photo WAS copyrighted and they removed it. Secretariat is an icon in the racehorse industry and his owner is vehemently anti-slaughter as is the farm that stood him at stud. They have donated money in his name to rescues and they would not appreciate somebody using his image to support slaughter.
Yup, he stood his entire life there. Mrs. Chennery is very elderly and lives in Colorado, so probably best to contact Claiborne about it.
Smiles.. I would love to see them tied up in a law suit….chuckles..
That photo is copyrighted by Tony Leonard. They took the watermark off or they scanned in the real pic at some point.
I believe Mr. Leonard has passed away but I’m sure his children would frankly be more than upset that this infringement has occurred. You can contact Penny through Secretariat.com. I’m sure that her daughter would love to put her courtroom clothes to work and see them there.
Funny thing is YouTube is now saying the video is not available. If anyone was able to snag a copy while it played you might want to pass that along to Secretariat.com and/or YouTube for copyright violation.
Yes, Tony passed away a few months ago sadly. Truly an amazing man and photographer. There is somebody that is looking after his affairs and I’m going to have to think on it for a bit to remember.
Awesome that they have jerked the video. How dare they use Secretariat for their murderous plans?
From what I understand the video is down while they are removing yet another copyrighted photo that they swiped. Wonder exactly how many peoples photos they hijacked for this little video project. 2 for sure… . Go figure- who would have ever thought?. Lets see, lies, misappropriated photos, deception, twisting of the facts like a barbed wire wind chime in a hurricane… Yup, must be another PSA project. However, on the bright side, it could be a great drinking game. . Every lie in the video gets a shot.. Then again, at the rate that the lies come, you might get alcohol poisoning…
I can’t see the picture of the little kids with ponies were authorized for that use either.
Daphne whines I use her pictures on here, but there is a rather large difference. They aren’t copyrighted and I’m not misrepresenting her stance or words on this issue. It’s called reporting. That PSA video is propaganda and the people and owners of the animals featured are well within their rights to raise hell. I tried to watch the hour long one but it was beyond boring. I made it through 4 mins and had to turn it off.
I don’t know if I can stomach this video. Is it as bad as the video of $ue quoting her own poetry? I vomit burped laughter after watching that one.
It’s not quite as cringe making as that one was….this is more along the lines of a propaganda video. It will either make you laugh or angry…..probably both!
Did I see Dennis Foster’s name on this? For anyone not familiar, he is one *really* angry guy — professional hater of anything HSUS (or any kind of animal welfare legislation), and embraced by Wallis and Co., when he was a “guest speaker” at the Horsemeat Summit in Las Vegas. He is the current Exec Dir. of Master of Foxhounds, and has made other videos using his buddy, Brian Munn, for the “Richard-Attenborough-ish” narration effect. Evidently, they’re hoping that dressing up their ridiculous message in a British accent will give it an air of royal credibility.
Yup, Foster is the one behind this and has written the intro that I have seen posted in some places. I find the accent on this video hilarious rather than giving it any kinda credibility, but maybe I’m just cynical…
Right you are, Howard. Foster’s talk at the Scummit was on how to protect themselves against us “terrorists”. Apparently, lack of facts supporting their views doesn’t matter and instead, attack the people that challenge them with facts. I don’t understand how attacking HSUS (Foster’s favorite terrorists) will change the country’s view on horse slaughter. HSUS or no HSUS, Americans do not want horses slaughtered.
Well if Foster, Head of the Masters of Hound Fuckery is behind this….then SHAME, SHAME, SHAME…foxhunting had many members that were or are heavy weights in the TB racing world (not much any longer). And NO, I am not here to debate foxhunting in America only to say that it is banned in the UK and the hunters here are paranoid beyond belief that the US is next…won’t mention what they do to the hunters and chasers that they possess….
HE FUCKIN’ KNOWS BETTER than to drag Ms C and Secretariat into to this mess of butchering equines for human consumption and profit!!!!!!
Secretariat’s gone out of the asswipe YouTube video?? What a hoot!
Who did it? I want to know who scared the shit out of that fucktard.
One thing about the TB world, you have to admit…they get their copyright and legal $hit together if they are playing in the game. Just as many crooks as other breeds, but the further you get away from the money you need to fund the operation, the stoopider the human.
A long time ago humans did use bute BUT it was proven that while it eased pain it caused CANCER which is why it was banned for human use… These people are stoopid (beyond the norm for stupidity)..
The biggest problem with bute is that dosage and patient along with unexpected longterm effect is more than problematic…it is undocumented because it is not a followed and researched pharma in the US OR internationally since I was in diapers…and I’m old.
I just spoke with a caretaker/groomsman at my barn that said he took bute and did until recently. I told him…whoa…you can’t self medicate with that stuff. Dosage is a big problem and long term studies haven’t been done….plus, it causes damage to the human immune system with documented organ damage and death.
Scary world folks…scary.
God forbid that they tell the truth ever..Pathological liars..all of them..
I guess the BLM would be spending even more money if their horses weren’t (apparently) ending up in the slaughter line, anyway. Very sad: http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/29/14153296-wild-horses-sold-by-us-later-ending-up-at-slaughterhouses?lite
BTW: Does anyone know where we can sign up for the free taxpayer money being given to rescues?
I wish I knew. Seems to me that being a rescue has to be one of the more thankless tasks in the industry. They take a lot of heat they don’t deserve…
WTF about BLM !?!?
As to free taxpayer money?…..get yourself some cattle or sheep or a petroleum…err, energy company and you got it. Oh! And Big corporate Ag ops/land.
I could also include Wall Street, banks and auto companies (all the while they shuttle US jobs to Asia and MEX/SA).
What a bunch of lying sacks of $hit!…to include Congress and the courts that give them their (welfare whores listed above) handjobs while the American public and lands, to include wildlife get toxic spunk spattered on their faces.
There. Did I paint an ugly and repulsive enough picture for you? I hope so.
Just being curious here…say you are able to keep slaughter houses from opening her again, then say you are also able to shut down the borders to keep horses from going to Mexico/Canada for slaughter. Then say you are all able to “save” each and every horse from auction…Then what?
Is there a plan for what you would all do with the vast amount of horses that would be homeless??? Because we are talking about tens of thousands of horses…
If you have a great plan that is very doable then by all means I shall join your side and help the horses too!
If you care about horses you would be helping them now and looking for a solution. To say IF you approve of the plan you’ll join sides and help is ridiculous. The `plan’ is to stop the backyard breeding and to have stiffer penalties for abuse and neglect. Right now UH and The Cavalry are trying to stop any laws that would mean stiffer penalties for abuse and neglect. You are never going to completely wipe out abuse and neglect because there will always be mentally ill people and hoarders. But at least far less horses will be suffering and being tortured in slaughter houses. If you have a taste for horse meat there is nothing stopping you from raising and butchering your own horse. There never has been. If the sale prices on your horses depend on the meat prices, you need to look for a better career. The one thing I do notice is that the PSAs spend the majority of their time blocking any real solution people come up with and trashing rescues because they don’t want to look outside of slaughter for a solution. So again, to say you’ll only help horses IF you approve of any plans says to me that you don’t give a shit about them in the first place…..
Answer: Euthanize them humanely. This is saving horses from the slaughter line, not saving them for the sake of keeping them alive when there are no avenues for doing so. This is pretty much the same model that small animal shelters use to deal with overpopulation. This is a tried and true plan that is being implemented by at least a few equine rescues that hold euthanasia clinics. Still on board and ready to join “our side”? Great! Those rescues could use donations so that they can afford to clean up after owners who won’t accept this responsibility, themselves. Please Google “euthanasia clinic horses” and give to the organization of your choice!
Thank you! You put it far better than I could….
Speckled Hen…..EXACTLY!
I was going to reply to SrC that EXACT point…but then you remembered.
Why can’t the whiny PSAs EVER remember you can do that at anytime (gunshot or chem euth) and I won’t complain???????? Not to mention these unwanted equines are not a qualified and lifetime guaranteed quality human food source.
p.s. Why do some equine owners (of which I am a second generation) never NEED slaughter (they die naturally or with medical assistance) and you pieces of human shit (that would be you, Ann) NEED slaughter that send unqualified meat to humans for as little as fifty bucks???? If you ask the question…you are a part of the problem Honey Boo-boo.
P.S.S. Dumbfuck Ann…I didn’t, nor have any of the leaders of this movement say we are going to take them all. That’s up there if you don’t want them, and we don’t want slaughter….we have to take your horses or put them on Pacelle’s front lawn. STOOPID TALK and doesn’t solve the issue. We will help..but we are not your sloppy ownership, breeding cause I won’t pay for gelding or fencing or atrocious training massacres outlet…neither should slaughter be yours. You apparently don’t understand agriculture.
Why do you flaming assholes keep asking that question? Clean up the mess your selves, without getting paid for it and peddling dirty meat!
Oh, and on a lighter note…the horse industry was thriving well at the state fair I attended today…beautiful, beautiful percherons shown, cared for, loved and not airy’ a’ one slated for slaughter. Loving and caring farms all anti-slaughter in one spot, down south, ya’ll!
Oops, be careful about mentioning `down south’ or you’ll be accused of being me. 😉
I advocate (man; that word’s startin’ to sound a tad trite…) more for wild equines than domestics, but in the overall scheme of things, a horse is a horse. And better a live one than an entree under ANY circumstances.
But every time sue’s lips dribble venom anywhere near wild equines, I cringe. There is a certain lack of defense for captive wild ones, given their ‘under-medicated’ existence, and the numbers (theoretically) amassed over the past decade.
But it’s the numbers, Friends and Neighbors, that stick in the craw like a sliver. Any fool can make sh*t up, and for domestic horses, the probability of creating an infant once a year is arguably very real. But that’s the other thing – no matter how these darlin’ people spin it, it still takes nearly a year to make a new baby horse. So, a million between now and 2016? That’s 250,000 American mares every year successfully creating a baby. (Ok; maybe not the SAME mares…) But it can be assumed that not every mare will breed, or even catch every year.
It can also be assumed that this vast unwashed & orphaned horde, if it comes to pass, will be caused by (wait fer it…) OVER BREEDING.
I have guardianship over two of my own (I can’t really say ‘owned’ cuz they were freebies, and I have been deeply poverty stricken since their arrival. BUT it’s the ‘good’ kind of poor.) He’s gelded. She had one, way before our time. I blacked-out briefly about 12 years ago, and went on a relentless search for a boyfriend for her, to fulfill her as a woman (God! what a idiot) and would have accomplished that goal if not for the ridiculous cost attached to a vial of sperm. Thankfully, I had an epiphany: with hundreds of adoptable horses out there, and the unnecessary risk to my dear friend and mare, there was no reason to add to her gene pool, no matter how illustrious her bloodlines (and they are).
Anyways, (and blah, blah, blah), I’ve come to insist that graphs and scales and humungous numbers pulled out of one’s nether regions have something substantive behind them, besides pretty colors and apocalyptic prophecies. The pros are counting on the coming horde as a cheap and easy source of income – unwanted animals, raised by somebody else, discarded, possibly out of another’s misery, easy pickin’s, Bud. Because this is a group of spoiled brats who have helped to create this ‘crisis’ and now seek to profit from work they haven’t done. It’s vile; it’s dishonorable. And every time sue mentions wild horses and burros, I wanna dump a well-used litter box in her boots. (Not my first choice, but better a citation than an arrest.)
It’s equally difficult to hear these people touting themselves as horse people, defending horse culture and traditions, the insistence that slaughter is a logical and benign end-of-life choice and in the best interest of equine industries when it’s so obvious – all they see are dead horses and dollar signs.
If you look at Dobrowski’s so called analysis, all she did (that is an old study of hers) is try to dispute John Holland’s analysis and failed miserably. John used government unemployment rates measured against official state reports of abuse and neglect and demonstrated when unemployment rises, so do the cases of abuse and neglect. There was no correlation to the availability of slaughter. Dobrowski’s sources, on the other hand, are government unemployment rates measured against articles – many that were proven false and many that no longer can be found. While she proved her point using anecdotal comments and hearsay, any statistician would have laughed at how she arrived at her conclusion. But they keep on using it and PSAs buy it hook, line and sinker.
It is amazing how they never question anything Wallis gives them. “Full steam ahead” in Missouri! Rockville was all AR and media spin – never mind the court documents prove it wasn’t spin and on and on.
She’s still telling them it’s ready to roll and expects to be in business by the end of the year!