I was really hoping we didn’t have to discuss the Nevada 34 until next week when their former owner/abuser goes to court, but it seems that Old Dorothy doesn’t know when to STFU. She is currently being egged on by the morons over at HGS forum and I do apologize to the very few people over there that have attempted reason and to call Dorothy on her BS. Most of the HGS people make the UH peeps look like geniuses; that’s how bad it is. If you are needing to refresh your memory on this neglect case, you can review these links: (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/the-nevada-34-update/)(https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/straight-from-the-horse-neglecters-mouth-updates-on-the-nevada-34/)and (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/sundays-psa-8/). Right now, Dorothy is busy pointing her grubby fingers every direction but at herself, but I still thought it would be fun to take a peek on her latest round of delusion and denial…As always, we’ll hear straight from Dorothy herself….
“Would you leave your place and go to town to do so while sheriffs deputies are on the place and no one else is there but them? My camera is a Flip video camera….recharges the battery by plugging into computer USB port…..at that point my house had no power except the generator and I didn’t even think of starting it up, plugging in computer and then plugging in camera….other things (like asking them not to load stallions/mares in the same trailer load) on my mind at that very moment.”
– I’m kinda getting confused about Dorothy’s camera situation. She originally told us that she had pictures on her camera but her film tore when she removed it. Now, it’s apparently a digital video camera (which wouldn’t have film). I’m not aware of too many flip video cameras that use film anymore….especially the ones that plug into a USB port. So….where ARE these pictures she claims to have that would show what super awesome shape her horses were in prior to seizure? She promised to have them available to everybody a few weeks ago.
“Added some photos to my ranch album…..taken from outside the sales yard property (posted with no cameras/videos allowed) only a few days after the horses were taken. According to the vet this herd had an average body condition score of 2 with only a few 3s and none a 4 or higher. Same vet testified that horses in starvation situation would take 1-3 weeks to turn around metabolism and begin to gain and at most would gain 1-1.5 lbs per day once they began gaining. Waiting for more photos taken a few days later with longer tele lens….. being processed in Reno at specialty photo business due to film damage in unloading camera (borrowed from a friend in case anyone needs to know….friend is also the owner of one of the leased mares and was NOT….as reported by the brand inspector…..upset about the condition of the mare but was upset about brand inspectors charging time and milage on top of brand inspection fee when brand inspection was done at BI’s usual place of business….sales yard….and by sales yard manager charging $7/day board on the mare since NNER had supposedly already paid the board…..and the board fee is limited by statute to $5/day…..did the same thing to the owner of the other two leased mares who was there at the same time picking up hers…..mare owner had a brand inspection in her name as well as mare’s papers in hand in her name…real question arises regarding brand inspection…..there was never a brand inspection showing ownership change from the mare owner to sheriffs dept or to NNER yet owner was forced to get a new inspection form showing her as owner when she had one already in hand.)”
– Ok, yet another camera story. Is anybody keeping track of the camera excuses? The horses have been in custody since early September. I would think the film would be developed by now? Now it’s the brand inspector’s fault and how dare NNER not pay the bail for the leased horses they weren’t taking into their care! I’m still not sure what any of this has to do with the condition her horses were in…
“Let’s get something straight…..I could afford the horses at the time they were taken…..there was hay on the property, hay was purchased twice a week or more, the old sick horse was getting medications for pain, ulcers, antibiotics and all the feed he would eat. The only issues were that I had spent down my reserves in dealing with move, getting pump/pressure tank and generator to get water accessible on the property other than the pond for the mares (which by the way, is over an acre in size most of the time and several feet deep at its deepest) so I didn’t have to haul it daily, and dealing with sister’s death that came faster and more expensively than anticipated (docs had given her to about Christmas, she died the end of July with funeral first week of August). I didn’t have the full amount of the money the vet wanted at the time the horse needed to be put down and was working on obtaining more as quickly as possible……retired so checks only come once a month…and he wouldn’t accept payments…..retirement check arrived on Wed after the horses were taken on Fri (and one day after the horse was put down or possibly the same day he was put down at the sales yard after being kept there without medications he was getting here) and would have paid for vet in full. Help for getting foot care done was also coming the next week….legs on those with photosensitive reaction were healing and they had been getting halter/tying work done with them so that help could hold them while they were trimmed…that help was on long vacation and due back the weekend the horses were taken. Those yearlings without leg issues due to photosensitivity had been trimmed within the previous month to 6 weeks and work was being done on the mare herd gradually. The funds shortage was short term. Moving here was a financial improvement over the situation where I was previously living.”
– Dorothy could not afford a bullet to put down an emaciated and suffering horse at the time they were taken. She was in arrears to the vet and many of those horses hadn’t had their feet trimmed for probably at least a year. Did the picture I posted above look like a horse that had been trimmed within six weeks? These horses had no shelter from the sun and those babies had been returned to her in April. She had several months to treat their sores and get them trimmed. Strangely, NNER managed to get the worst cases done immediately by tranquilizing them and laying them down. If money was `not a problem’ why didn’t Dorothy do the same? Again, I keep coming back to the severely emaciated and suffering stallion. If you couldn’t afford to end his suffering, you shouldn’t have animals. Period. That’s not even going into the fact Dorothy has no electricity nor running water at her place. Yet, she has enough money to care for 34 horses….Ok then….
“Yep. And this is not the only behavior from that BI that should be reviewed. Her job is to accurately describe animals and to do recorded transfer of ownership for state records. She somehow missed listing brands on two of the three mares that carried them, described one horse as a gelding when there were no geldings here, described more black/white Paints than were here, described one horse as a roan Paint (no roan Paint here) and offered such vague descriptions of almost all the horses that someone not familiar with them would probably not be able to ID any of them while I, as the owner, can only positively ID about 1/3 of them from her descriptions. That’s just one small group of animals with that many errors…..one has to ask how accurate her work is in larger groups (such as on sale day at the sales yard where maybe 1000 head or more of animals will be changing ownership). Then there’s the issues of her notifying the rescue within an hour of the last horse leaving here that the rescue would be getting these horses….who contacts someone they don’t know well at after 11 at night to tell them they are getting a big bunch of horses….the claim from DT that she and the BI didn’t know each other prior to this seizure is BS. And then add in the kind of posted remarks such as this place being overrun with hundreds of feral cats….really?….because there isn’t a single cat in any of the SO photos (yes, I have them but printed and don’t have a scanner to upload to a disk) and none of the neighbors have seen all these feral cats either. Add in her breaches of security on her other job on the Naval Air Station (posted photos of military aircraft inside their hangars…..huge security issue as NO photos are to be taken on base of any military craft or facilities).”
– Dorothy is running out of fingers to point! I’m just going to float a theory on the rescue/BI issue. If the county knew they were likely going to have to take custody of over 3o head of horses, it would make sense they had their ducks in a row and gave a rescue a heads up. It would be irresponsible to take that many horses that were in reportedly fragile health without a plan in place. I don’t know that as a fact, but I could see it going down like that. As to the cat issue, we know Dorothy breeds ragdoll cats and I don’t have a hard time believing her house was full of them. Hoarders don’t have great perspective on what is `too many’. Maybe they weren’t running around her yard, but that doesn’t mean her house wasn’t full of them. She also apparently breeds dogs.
Ok, now that we have a sampling of some recent inconsistencies from Dorothy, let’s look at some other whoppers she has told. Remember how she kept telling everybody she had not bred any mares this year? *update* The picture of the mare’s ass is current but the HGS people are still morons* The above mare recently slipped a foal. A foal that was estimated to be at least six months old. NNER had the fetus DNA tested so there would be no question what mare it came from. Of course they are now getting mobbed up by the HGS shitheads who think that was a waste of money. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t….Had they not gotten this evidence, the same people would be saying it wasn’t this mare’s foal or wasn’t as old as they claimed or something. The fact is, this is Dorothy’s former mare and she aborted a six month old fetus. Maybe it was an immaculate conception. Here are the DNA results…
Another outright lie Dorothy told was to do with the `old’ stallion who she had no money to put down. She claimed he was very old and very sick. Thankfully, Dorothy has an internet trail that even a blind man could follow and we now know that the horse that was in super tough shape likely wasn’t all that old. It turns out that Dorothy advertised 4 stallions at stud. One of them was 20 yrs old, Muchacho Pintero, but he passed away at least a year ago according to Dorothy. “Muchacho Pintero, sorrel tobiano, only Paint son of Docs Muchacho (Doc Quixote x Maguey Girl by Les Glo), out of stakes placing daughter of All American Futurity winner Three Ohs. Lost him last winter and miss him terribly.” Ok, so we know the only `older’ stallion she has listed on several sites, including her own website (thank you internet archives ;)) died long before this drama ensued. The emaciated, downed horse in the news footage showed a buckskin tobiano. Guess what? Dorothy had a buckskin tobiano stallion at stud. His name was Colonels Diamond Chex and he was NOT one of the horses that ended up at NNER. He would have only been 10years old this year and you can see him here : (http://www.horsebreederdirect.com/horses/coloredcowhorseranch/colonelsdiamondchex) He is likely the `old’ horse that she couldn’t afford to put down nor would she sign a release to let the sheriff do it, prolonging his suffering by a few more days. Since Dorothy lies like a sidewalk, we may never know where Colonels Diamond Chex ended up or if he was, in fact, the `old’ stallion that suffered so badly.
Let’s go back to how Dorothy told us all how she wasn’t going to breed anything this year. Even though we now have an aborted fetus that suggests that wasn’t true, I think I’ll let Dorothy speak for herself again. This is what she had to say last November…
“Likely using Ima Streakin Doc (bay tobiano APHA, Doc Bar grandson) on several mares as I like what he’s done with them in the past…and one maiden because I think he’d make a great cross with her.
Smoken Boo Jac (black tobiano by QT Poco Streke out of daughter of Mr Barbie Cody Jac by Hollywood Jac 86)…previous foal a big bay tobiano born doing rollbacks and sliding stops
Diaman H RisKey Beau….black tobiano, possibly HZ for both (not tested yet) daughter of Ris Key Business out of daughter of QT Poco Streke…previous foal bay HZ tobiano colt
Hickery’s Lil Crimson (chestnut HZ tobiano granddaughter of Smart Little Pistol out of Lenas Diamond Chex/Doc Doll/Mr Gunsmoke/King Fritz mare)…maiden, guaranteed tobi with 50% chance of HZ, probably bay or black
Other stallion that will be used is Double Down Delta (APHA pending) liver chestnut HZ tobiano, son of res world ch Delta Promise (Delta O’Lena x Peppy San Badger daughter out of Nu Bar daughter) out of daughter of Dots Nu King (reining points, died before finishing, full brother to 2 x world ch reiner Gay Bar O’Lena….Delta O’Lena x Nu Bar daughter o/o daughter of Gay Bar King)…will be bred to…..
HR Smiles Doll, solid bay Paint, producing daughter of Doc Doll out of daughter of Freckles Playboy, second dam full sister to Travelena and placed 8th at NCHA fut…….guaranteed tobiano foal with great pedigree
Stylish Sugar Mama, med liver chestnut QH mare, daughter of Nitas Stylish Oak ($ and fut winner, Docs Stylish Oak x Royal Silver King daughter o/o Peponita daughter) out of daughter of Nu Cash (Peppy San Badger/Doc O’Lena on bottom)…chestnut tobiano foal
BBR Uvaldelena, bay HZ tobiano mare by Dos Munecos, double grandson of Uvalde Doll (dam of Doc Doll) with grandsires being Gay Bar King and Jose Uno…out of daughter of ’92 APHA world ch reiner, Retrospect…..HZ tobiano foal
Docs Lady Is Smoken, bay minimal splash white registered as solid, granddaughter of Smoke N Cotton (5th in lifetime working cowhorse pts when he died young, sire of multiple world chs including 4 x world ch Smoke N Blackhawk) and of Docs Gabilan (top 10 finalist Snaffle Bit, Doc Bar son) with Broadway Doc and Bueno Chex on bottom. Tobiano, possible tovero foal.
Strait Miss Boon, brown solid Paint daughter of 8 time world ch Strait From Texas (RisKey Business x daughter of Hollywood Smoke by Mr Gunsmoke) out of own daughter of Boon Bar (sire of multiple winners incl Royal Blue Boon, dam of Peptoboonsmal)….tobiano foal
Munez Queen Phoebe….QH mare, bay, daughter of Docs Phoebe (by Docs Hickory) out of daughter of Brinks Leo Hickory (by Docs Hickory)….tobiano foal
There are several other mares here I’d love to breed but am unsure of what the economy is going to do so am not sure whether I’ll breed them or not…hate to have them just sit but don’t want to produce non-selling foals either…only got three coming in ’12 so they’ve mostly sat for a year this coming spring as it is. Will see how things look in the spring….feed prices etc all factor in. Thinking of maybe breeding half the herd one year and the other half the alternate years…until they are old enough that this risks future breedings at all.”
Kinda tells a different story,no? At least maybe NNER can use this list to identify some of the mares that Dorothy refuses to give up the paperwork for. For sure they can use it to ID the aborted fetus. You only need to run a search on any of Dorothy’s stud’s names and you pretty much get endless pages of her talking about her breeding plans for them. Wanna see the baby daddy?
As of last November, Dorothy admitted to having 9 stallions running together at her place. She also, helpfully posted pictures of some of them. They were not in bad weight, but you can see the beginnings of slipper feet on at least one of them. Strangely, he doesn’t appear to have sores on his legs either and she claims that her recent financial woes were temporary in nature. Remember how she was outraged that the county had put stallions together in pens when her horses were seized? “I have 9 uncut male horses here right now (not counting the weanlings)….they run together in a bachelor herd, seldom even have sparring matches among themselves and not a one of them has ever attempted a bite at me and one tried a kick one time. I safely walk among them at feeding time, can take any one of them out of the herd whenever I want, have them in a field that sometimes has mares as close as 30 feet away (most of the mares are across the road… a two lane road with fences on both sides so mares and stallions are about maybe 100 feet apart most of the time)…and I don’t have problems with them.”
I think by now, most reasonable people can see for themselves that Dorothy has a big problem with keeping her stories straight. She seems to spend a LOT of time on message boards and likes to give advice about anything and everything. I guess while she was busy on the net, her horses were withering away from photosensitivity and neglect. What we do know for a fact is that the issue of the horses being seized has been settled. NNER has the horses and that’s the way it will remain until they put them up for adoption. NNER had NOTHING to do with the seizure of the horses, yet Dorothy and her idiot followers continue to demonize them at every opportunity. We also know that Dorothy is in court next week to answer to the neglect charges. I wish I could be a fly on the wall to see that gong show as I’m certain that Dorothy will be blaming anybody and everybody for the condition of those poor animals. Remember, that Dorothy is a staunch slaughter supporter and has, in the past, attacked many anti slaughter people over their views. I guess the biggest question I have in all of this is, how is bringing slaughter back going to eliminate cases like this one? She could have sold her horses to kill buyer at any point, instead she chose to neglect them and let them suffer. Does anybody really think this would have gone down any differently had there been a slaughter-house in the US?