I think by now, most of us know that nothing pisses off a PSA like people being kind to horses and having concern about their welfare. I’m talking about all horses ,and not the few unfortunate ones that find themselves belonging to a PSA. There are a few PSAs that profess to like their own horses and even treat them decently as long as they are `earning their keep’, but they are in the minority for that group. However, I can’t even count how many times I have seen a PSA take the annoying cop-out that they would never slaughter one of their own horses because they are too special, but what the country so desperately needs is the ability to slaughter all the `other’ horses out there so people will be nice to them. As hard as I’ve tried, I still can’t follow that logic or comprehend the ability to separate their own horses from all the other horses out there. As a direct result of the PSA’s sense of entitlement and flagrant lack of compassion, they truly hate it when any legislation is introduced that might make it harder to get away with mistreating and abusing horses, or any other animal for that matter. They consider it a violation of their rights and the ability to treat their `property’ as they see fit and it usually motivates them to rally the troops and express their outrage.
Even though most PSAs are currently distracted by the very real prospect of Oklahoma allowing horse slaughter again, some of them have discovered that Oregon has introduced Bill 2901 in recent weeks and they are super pissed about it. HB 2901 (http://www.leg.state.or.us/13reg/measures/hb2900.dir/hb2901.intro.html) would make horse tripping for entertainment a Class B misdemeanor. The penalty for conviction of a Class B in Oregon is a maximum of 6 months in prison and/or a $2500 fine. The actual wording of HB 2901 is as follows:
“A person commits the offense of equine tripping if the person intentionally causes an equine to trip or fall, or intentionally ropes or lassos the legs of an equine for the purposes of a rodeo, contest, exhibition, entertainment, or sport or as practice for a rodeo, contest, exhibition, entertainment or sport”
Horse tripping is not only cruel and gross, it is already banned in several states such as Florida, Illinois, Maine, New Mexico, Oklahoma (really!), Texas and Nebraska. It is barbaric and completely unnecessary to do. Horses used for tripping often suffer catastrophic injuries for the entertainment of a few rednecks. It is a favorite event at Mexican Rodeos and one of our former Sunday PSAs is not only an advocate for it, but also an active participant. (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/08/05/name-that-psa/) Unsurprisingly, The United Horsemen think it’s great too and Slaughterhouse Sue and her lap-dog, Douchebag Duquette, think horse tripping is great and have, in the past, joined the fight to keep it legal.
Do you know where they get the horses to trip? Mostly they `lease’ them off kill buyers. Very few horses will survive the season, but the PSAs don’t want anybody to know about that because they are still saying that Kill Buyers are great guys and slaughter is not only `humane’, but it gives horses back their dignity. I guess further public torture and suffering before you head off to the feedlot to get slaughtered is dignified to these people. You know what else happens to the horses these assholes use if they survive the rodeo? Many of them get hauled off to a remote location an abandoned because they don’t want to pay to properly dispose of them and the KBs won’t take them back. These wouldn’t happen to be some of these unwanted horses that get turned loose because they have no value would they? No wonder PSAs don’t want this type of thing banned.
I think most non PSA horse people would think that any legislation that would outlaw this `sport’ is a good thing. Hell, even most people that aren’t into horses would take a look at this `sport’ and find it disturbing. However, Oregon is the hotbed for buckaroo culture and with that comes a whole other bunch of asstards that like to get their jollies by abusing animals. (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/hey-mr-buckaroo-why-are-you-such-an-asshat/)Big Loop rodeo is a favorite pastime of buckaroos, with the Jordan Valley Big Loop Rodeo probably being their most famous. Naturally horse roping is one the biggest crowd pullers. Buckaroos will tell you that what they do is not the same as horse tripping and their horses are supplied by stock contractors. They will tell you that done properly, the horses won’t fall but are `laid down’, but you can watch this video and decide for yourself : (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v7djtzbckE). Doesn’t it look like those horses are having a great time and feeling all dignified? Yes folks, they defend all this because they claim it to be their culture and tradition. It doesn’t matter there is no reason to do this to a horse at all, the buckaroos think that outlawing this practice for entertainment, and that’s really all H2901 is seeking to do, means they can’t continue to be assholes in the privacy of their own ranches. With a textbook display of PSA paranoia, they think that if this gets passed, it will lead to an end to all horse sports and ranching practices. Seriously.
Getting laid down gently?
HB2901 just had its first reading on February 11th of this year. It still needs to pass the House and Senate before it can be signed into law. You can track the bill here : (http://gov.oregonlive.com/bill/2013/HB2901/). They have struck similar legislation down in Oregon before, so make your voices heard and support it. It is barbaric activities like this that fuels the slaughter pipeline. Horses used in tripping are ruined for all else usually. If they survive it at all, how else are they going to dispose of them quietly? It is no coincidence that besides Slaughterhouse Sue and Douchebag Duquette, three of our featured PSAs have been avid horse tripping and Big Loop enthusiasts. (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/09/02/sundays-psa-6/)(http//shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/sundays-psa-4/) They defend this practice as part of their culture and way of life. I guess that means that we should have never given women the vote or abolished slavery because those things were also part of culture and the way of life for many people. I’d like to think that society in general has evolved and we don’t have to cling to archaic and barbaric traditions to accomplish what we need. Practices like this are not needed to break horses or get through life on a ranch at all. Most sane ranchers will tell you that the less stress and rough handling you put on any stock, the better off it is for the stock and their bottom lines. It is strictly for `entertainment’ and making it a misdemeanor is the only way you can even hope to penetrate the thick Cro-magnon skulls of these hold-outs. It’s called progress and society in general will not tolerate this needless cruelty and suffering. The only problem is that society in general doesn’t usually know about these activities or why it cruel. Because of this, they also aren’t aware when legislation like this is introduced. People tend to focus only on that which affects them directly. That’s where we come in. Get the word out in Oregon. Let’s get this passed!
The fact that anyone can defend this is beyond disturbing.
Entertaining?? Disgusting…
They defend it because these people don’t want to change their ways. Animals are `thing’s to them and `property’, not sentient beings like the rest of us know that they are.
Hmmm..just like illegals and native americans ain’t worth a toilet or legal adjudication.
Excuse me…just exactly who decided people and animals aren’t worth consideration?
The Money Gods?
More is coming folks…check NY Times manna (Spanish for tomorrow).
Please don’t tell us Horse Trader Duquette has done another interview…
SrC:
Nope! The only place Doink would be featured would be in the comic section of the NYT.
A reporter from the NYT picked up on the Houston TV feature about horsemeat shipping thru Houston ports.
Here is the link from RTs blog which links to the NYTimes:
http://rtfitchauthor.com/2013/02/28/advocates-concerned-by-shipment-of-horse-meat-through-u-s-ports/
It shows that multiple ships may very well prove that mingled meats (ground meat) and processed convenience foods have entered the US food system. This isn’t just “mislabeling”. The COO (country of origin) Labeling is a fucking mess.
Sadly, he was in the NY Times the other day 😦
He’s on a media blitz and we’re going to have a lot of laughs here pretty soon.
Douche Bag NYT link….pleeze?
Didn’t know.
He’s on a media blitz. Did a radio interview too here he tells everybody about bute withdrawal times and that it’s no big deal because they’ve been buting dairy cows for years. Complete lies. For once, I wish these reporters would educate themselves ahead of time and pin his ass to the wall on his lies. Here is the NY Times link…I’ll provide the rest later
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/business/us-exposure-to-horse-meat-answers-to-common-questions.html?_r=1&
I spearheaded the campaign in Texas in early ’90’s to ban horse tripping and bill was passed in ’95. Also worked with CA and NM to get their bills passed, and most recently Nebraska. Another law that needs national attention especially now that the good ole white cowboys are getting in on the fun originally started in Mexican rodeos. It never ends, does it?
No, it sure doesn’t seem to. No horseman would ever handle a horse like by basically team roping them. Certainly not one they intended to use as a ranch horse. It serves NO purpose at all. They aren’t attacking bucking horses or any traditional rodeo event either. Just this dangerous and cruel `sport’ that injures and ruins horses. To call it part of their culture and tradition is a joke. We used to hang horse thieves and we don’t do that anymore. They used to lynch runaway slaves and we don’t do that anymore either. Some traditions are better left in the past.
It’s a function of “how big is my PENIS” club.
And lynching still exists….just on a more covert, polite manner.
And maybe we ought to do something akin to lynching for horse thieves…they are food terrorists with the agenda of money/greed.
I realize lynching still exists. They had one in Bush a few years ago. The point is that slavery is abolished and lynching is illegal and no longer socially acceptable outside a few hateful rednecks that want to keep their tradition of being racist alive. General society will no longer tolerate it. We’ve evolved.
Hmmmm…but there are laws and then there is enforcement of said laws.
I get your point.
Yes and the reason they became laws is that society evolved and disapproved of those practices. They all want to talk about the dreaded slippery slope as the reason they fight animal cruelty laws. Does that mean allowing slaughter back is a slipper slope towards us shipping our unwanted cats and dogs in shelters over to a country that’s culture is to eat them. I’m sure we have immigrants that have eaten cats and dogs, so maybe we need to make that available to them and stop wasting all that good meat? It makes as much sense….
SrC:
Excellent point(s)……those points will be a mind loss to the horse killing idiots.
What they don’t realize is that they are advocating the demise of legitimate swine, bovine, poultry and sheep producers…keep it up $uey you are on the verge of killing ALL US meat production with your orgasm called human consumption horse slaughter (HCHS).
Hope it lasted more than a minute.
I thought pig’s orgasms lasted 30 mins or so?
OH, GOD!!!! IT NEVER ENDS!!!!!
I went to see a friend working on his truck at the repairman’s house in a Hispanic neighborhood…..NOT ONE DOG SPAYED OR CASTRATED…..ROAMING!
A teen, didn’t complete high school watching (for something to do?) said his goal was to go to every US state and make one baby. WHAT THE FUCK?!?! This manhood???????
Oh and he has a bitch (not spayed) with puppies WITH NO PLACE TO GO! Bitch wasn’t around and not feeding puppies.
Broke my heart.
What the fuck is the problem with people? But the horse killers would defend this a$$holes right to do whatever he wanted.
Any journalist that gives Douche or $uicide $uey a platform should have their pay docked.
Davey is bragging that Russell Brand has asked him on some late night show. I guess D-bag doesn’t know much about Russell Brand and what he does because that could be funny as hell. I can just see the fun they would have with stupid hick D-bag with his chin pubes!
Last I knew, Russel Brand is a vegan…..and your right, it would be a hoot!!!!!!
He’s also extremely rude and witty. I imagine he or his people have seen pics of D-bag and thought there was no way such a backwards ass hillbilly could exist. He’s the exact stereo-type that a lot of British people have of dumbass cowboys. He’s stupid, he can’t speak properly or clearly and he’s funny because he doesn’t realize what a complete ignorant douchebag he comes across as. The extreme chin pubes are just a bonus!
Brand vs. Davey?? Oh that I would set the dvr for!
Not a single PSA can stand up to anyone with some intelligence and wit because they lack both. Now if one were to debate using greed and selfishness as reasons they might stand a chance.
Evolution means nothing to PSAs, they’re too hung up on rights, culture and tradition and can’t see the ramifications. Thankfully they seem to be the minority. They’re noisy as hell but they’re still the minority.
I hope D-bag does loads and loads of interviews. There isn’t a high powered attorney that could make a better case against horse slaughter then them putting Davey out as their front man and letting the public see the kind of person that wants to slaughter horses and eat them. He doesn’t exactly come across as articulate and well educated. .
Not sure Brand is rude…..out on the fringe? Most certainly.
I think he is sincere and trying to make a living.
Douche and Brand????? Give me the time and station and I’m there! Be advised, he (Brand) will NOT get into the facts of horsemeat…he will play it for entertainment.
Of course he’s going to play it for laughs, but his Brand X show does comment on current events and what better satire than D-bag himself? If he does go ahead and do it, it will be epic!
It’s the old Slippery Slope Syndrome, and just recently we’ve witnessed an appalling case of it here in Montana. Dogfighting is a felony in all 50 states; attending a dog fight is a crime in all states but…Montana. In the last legislature (2011) a bill attempted to correct this by making spectating a felony, but legislators balked at the severity of that punishment (it’s already a felony in about half the states) and killed the bill in committee. So this time around, a bill was introduced to make spectating a misdemeanor. At the hearing, 14 people rose to support the bill; none opposed it. Yet again, it was killed in committee with all the Republicans but one prevailing against all the Dems + one Repub.
Said the Agriculture Committee legislator who killed it: “This is the first step down a very slippery slope. If you just try to argue uh, uh, the grey area of animals used for fighting or animals suffering, uh, let’s say in a rodeo event, uh, we’re there. Uh, we’re there. So I think this is a dangerous direction we don’t want to go…” He is willing to accommodate felons and criminal brutality and death for exploited fighting dogs just to ensure that calves can be snapped by the neck in rodeo roping events, among other rodeo atrocities. To add insult to injury, this legislator is a veterinarian.
Disgusting! But this mindset also supports puppymills and all kinds of other cruelties that decent human beings find unacceptable. I guess we know what state Michael Vick will retire to….Yuck.
http://www.kraytonkerns.org/ < here's the super special dumbass himself. Probably best friends with the other Montana embarrassment, Ed Butcher.
What a piece of work!
I just noticed he refers to himself as a `cow doctor’. So, basically, that means that him having an opinion on horse welfare is about like going to a gynecologist for a foot problem. Geez.
Better than the reverse !
He just should have just stopped at ‘cow’.
This is beyond sick….sick, dummer than dirt fracks and super sick audience that would come and watch such cruelty. Thought this was illegal in the US
And then they wonder why some horses become dangerous…..well it’s never ever the horses fault, always some stupid human and this is an absolute perfect example
I agree. Nothing good comes out of these Big Loop and Mexican rodeos for the horses. But you can see why they all support slaughter, don’t you? What else are they going to do with all the ruined horses?
Being an Oregon resident I can tell you this will never be signed into law (leaving out discussing the obvious point which is that this crime is more properly a felony with bigger fines/longer incarceration and add-ons if the horse tripped was stolen or a BLM horse – happens a LOT in Oregon). The reason is that so many here esp. law enforcement are absolutely paralyzed by the “cultural” thing. You should read some of the horrible pro-tripping comments that were left on a local newspaper blog last summer after the (unsanctioned) Jordan Valley Rodeo saw several really bad outcomes from horse tripping and some people tried to turn the horse trippers in for cruelty.
I live next door to south-of-the-border illegal imports. Despite clear evidence of dog fighting the Sheriff insists that Hispanics do not engage in dog fighting activities and refuse to investigate. These people take such poor care of their horses it is appalling but animal control won’t even investigate. Also, one of the things they do for sport in summer when their muddy pasture finally dries up is for two or three of them pile onto their souped up John Deere Gator and chase their mini around for hours in the summer heat – law enforcement would do nothing. Frankly, given what goes on over there I think even law enforcement is scared of them.
One completely horrifying thing I heard in a public place last fall, an illegal was telling in poor English to a non-Hispanic about how he pulled all the teeth out of his horse – he himself, no vet, he said he tied the horse down and sat on the neck and went at it with pliers (he demonstrated with his hand gestures how he did it) because the horse bit him.
I don’t understand the protection of illegals who are abusing or neglecting animals or committing the myriad of lawbreaking they get away with including epidemic levels of drug problems esp. meth manufacture. But I think it is because the agriculture lobby here wants to keep a nice population of cheap labor so tells the legislature to leave ’em alone. And I do think everyone in law enforcement is afraid of getting shot, knifed, sued or all of the above if they try to enforce the laws among the illegals.
Don’t lose hope. Wasn’t it Oregon that set the precedent that animals could be victims of crime? People are getting sick of this sort of abuse and are starting to take a stand.
https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/08/04/great-news-from-oregon-property-rights-and-horses/
Hopefully, one of you can educate me as to the ‘when’ this became a ‘tradition’…
I currently live in Cali, but was raised in Nevada; rodeo was tradition. Now, this was (more than) a few decades ago, but in my little town, and in Reno and Carson City, ‘rodeo’ was kinda like FHA for grown-ups. Folks showed off their calf-roping ability, and I SWEAR, I never saw a calf broken by a roper. Bull and bronc riding was cowboys and girls sitting for 8 seconds on an animal that didn’t WANT a passenger, and was so miffed about it when they left the chute, everybody got a good ride. (I think this was well before the advent of the Stun Gun version). Cutting, barrel racing, all had roots in necessary skills sets for living and working in ranching communities.
I remember being in awe of these people – and the animals – for the raw displays of equality, in partnering with your ride, in actual competition between the cowboy and the bull, the bronc or the 200 pound yearling calf.
But I NEVER saw big loop or ‘horse tripping’ – ever. What would be the point? What use would potentially crippling stock have for a working rancher?
So, I have difficulty understanding how just plain meanness like this could ever be considered a part of ‘horse culture’. And when it became a ‘tradition’, because this is NOT a part of what I grew up with.
Me either. I grew up on a cattle ranch and we also always had both ranch and performance horses. Never saw one roped in my life. In fact, I always knew that is exactly what you didn’t want to do to a horse. I’m not sure why this is a `tradition’ that needs to be preserved, but I also don’t get why bull fighting is either. Some people get off on seeing animals afraid and in pain, I guess. I’m just glad I don’t live near people like that.
this is terrible!!! how can they even do this?!! i hate people who do this!! i hate rodeo people, and whatever anyone says against this o rme, i do not care!! nothing changes the fact of rodeo horse and animal abuse!!! i am soo glad in South Africa they are no rodeos..