I was hoping to take a few days off from writing this thing, so I could sort and organize a mountain of information for a post I have been working on. Contrary to what the village idiots claim, I actually do quite a bit of research and fact checking to pull these posts together. It can be time-consuming, but this something I took on because I felt it was important to shed some light on an escalating situation. However, as more and more people speak out and come forward, HiCaliber seems to up their level of fuckery and give us even more to work with. I guess that’s what happens when you’ve left your proverbial asses hanging out everywhere and people are starting to talk among themselves. There is a lot of ground to cover today, so this is gonna get long again. I gotta warn you that I’m beyond irritated by this confederacy of dumbasses, so I’m likely going to offend people more than usual. I’m also pretty sure I don’t give a singular crap if I do. To put a little context on this first part, you might want to read this post HiCaliber made on Monday and then re watch this video from Satan Tara that I had put up last time. Pay special attention to what she says about HiCaliber in it. Ready? Let’s get into it…
It seems to me that it was pretty cut and dried that HiCaliber were going to be the safety net for those TBs. Many of us recall the live feed where Romney allowed Satan Tara to swap out those horses and even the hostile post about the `haters’ kicking up a fuss and making her bring one of the horses with a burned out lip home rather than something else she found `sexy’ which usually just means it didn’t cringe away from her like most horses do. At any rate, the horses were all relisted with an `HC’ after their number on the tags. The village idiots rested easy knowing that they weren’t going to have a date with slaughter any time soon and looked for their endorphin rush elsewhere for the time being. Even as the last big load from Louisiana was arriving with a large number of private buyer horses and not a lot of obvious TBs, the village idiots were absolutely beside themselves with excitement and had forgotten all about the ones left behind. Remember all those allegedly pregnant mares that they just had to save? Neither do the villagers despite the fact that only one pregnant mare made it to California according to their intake team. That was until Satan Tara decided to stir the pot and say that all those private buyers she had refunded deposits to, were no longer interested in the TBs due to the drama surrounding them (see previous post for those screen shots). Because the village idiots will like anybody that HiCaliber tells them to like, many of them were over on Tara’s page and actually briefly had independent and logical thought causing them to ask questions, which is why Romney wrote the hostile missive above. When people started asking questions and it became apparent that it was actually Satan Tara that was the source of the information, Romney hastily edited out the blaming people spreading rumors as the reason these horses are about to be slaughtered. They aren’t about to be slaughtered btw, but that’s another issue for another day. What followed was a whole slew of contradictory statements in the comment section as they scrambled to cover their asses and bring the villagers back into line. Even though Romney lies all the time, she’s not very good at it, so she brought the expert, Satan Tara, to further confuse the situation. How this eventually plays out is anybody’s guess. One of the comments I had seen was where the Louisiana rescues that had asked HiCaliber to stand down were? Well, HiCaliber ran them off so they are off not buying horses from wannabe kill buyers and intercepting them before bottom feeding swamp donkeys like Satan Tara and her convicted felon dough fuck boy get their mitts on them. You know, like real rescues tend to do.
Ok, moving on to Tissue Tuesday, Romney was back in action at auction today with extra layers of mascar on and ready to breathe heavy and weep for the camera. It was a total shit show from beginning to end. You would think after their post on Monday saying that they had no more room to save the Louisiana horses that maybe, just maybe they’d give the auction a miss for a change. Sadly, no. The same old posts with the same old manipulations were rolled out and the begging ensued. If you have rage issues, you should probably stop reading here. Consider yourself warned.
You read that correctly. They fucking KNEW about this horse for at least a week and probably more and decided that she wasn’t as important as driving across the country to buy a bunch of horses from a convicted felon and his swamp donkey. Of course people donated to get this poor soul `safe’ even though it was obvious to everybody that she needed to be released from her pain yesterday. What would have been the appropriate thing to do would have been to call a vet to come out and euthanize her right there on the spot. Instead, they decide they need an additional $650 over and above the $200 ransom they just paid. You can’t skim if you don’t have the extra there. After having to trailer in to the nearest clinic, of course, this horse was put down and we should all be happy that at least a vet did it and she didn’t get hauled two hours to get shot in the face like they have done to others. Still, I don’t know how they sleep at night knowing that their own greed and self promotion caused even more suffering for this horse.
Next up is this poor mare and her 3 month old foal. She couldn’t walk either and rather than get her help right there or, hey, maybe call Animal Control on these sons of bitches that are allowing horses to be in this much pain, let’s ask the village to pay $1700 for the pair. I actually even saw somebody comment they were waiting for their social security check so they could donate. I don’t have an issue with putting this poor mare down. I do have an issue for paying somebody for the privilege to do what is right by her and then asking for so much over and above when the poor thing isn’t going to even have so much as a carrot from them. The volunteer that went with them to the clinic even said that the vet only took one x-ray of the worst foot, so that couldn’t have been a big bill. Then, they have Mea Ola’s come to pick up the baby, so she’s off the feed bill too. Not that they handed Mea Ola’s any of their $650 over. No, please send more money to them. Again, you’ll likely never see a single invoice for any of this.
Because, God forbid they go home with an empty trailer, they managed to scrape up two horses to buy. There were more than a few there but they had to allow Misner to buy the ones he wanted first and then got outbid on a horse that they were attempting to whip up some drama about. The horse had a dent in its head, likely from getting kicked as a baby, but suddenly became a horse with head trauma and more! No joy this time though. The village did not rally enough funds and the horse went with a private buyer so there is some hope that it won’t end up standing around in a small pen and getting used for unneccessary vet procedure practice. I’m not sure why the bay horse needed to be `rescued’ nor am I sure why they felt a need to buy the pinto mare from Misner after the auction other than Romney said she was pretty and cried for the camera. At least they have two to bring home to the ranch where they stated the day before that they had no more room until they `move’ some horses. Well, it turns out they did `move’ at least one prior to auction…
They casually slipped the fact that Casey had died in their initial auction post. Casey was one of the slaughter11 horses which was the big miracle save and publicity stunt that was a precursor to the Louisiana Shit Show. A warm up shit show, if you will. You may remember him for being the horse that was collapsed on the drive way after being drug out there from the trailer he had been stuffed in. At some point in late November/early December he was adopted out to the same family that also adopted HiCaliber Pandy. HiCaliber posted a feel good video clip of the little kids being all excited to get both horses. Flash forward to around March and the two horses are back at HiCaliber. Pandy is promptly put back up for adoption and goes home with a known horse flipper, while Casey is said to have come back to Hicaliber with his mane and tail all braided up, but no frogs left in his feet and he had strangles. Obviously he was not put back up for adoption nor did they make much mention of him being an adoption fail. He was up in the barn around May 10th, but was kicked out into pen #12, being fed a straight mush diet. soon after. Not enough of it, but still straight mush. By today, he’s a dead horse and what is truly disturbing is the admitted circumstances surrounding that death. In the screen shots above, they mention he died on his own and before the vet could get there. Do you have any idea how much suffering had to go on for that to happen? I’ve had cast horses and it’s not a big deal to pull them out if you know what you’re doing. It takes a helluva struggle or a long time being stuck upside down to kill one. If he was colicing and cast, he was already in distress. If he coliced after he cast due to the weight of his bowels causing necrosis, then he was suffering a very long time. Either way, another needless and horrific death at HiCaliber. I’m sure people will say `shit happens’ and `fail forward’ but that’s a cop-out. They have TOO MANY HORSES to adequately take care of and very few, if any of the residents on that property are even motivated enough to get off their ever expanding asses and do night checks or even help with feed. How many more have to die like this before the village idiots wake the fuck up?
The above horses were taken in about a month ago after their owner passed away. All are elderly, but in excellent body condition. These pictures are the last we ever heard about them. There was never an official intake nor were their names announced other than what the daughter of the former owner provided in comments. As a result, it is difficult to locate them on the feeding charts if they are even there at all. Because they were relinquished, there was no big fund raising drive for them which would automatically put them on thin ice. Where are they? Why no intakes? So many other horses unaccounted for. For instance, do we know if Drama and Breen are still alive? Are they being cared for or are they suffering out in the sun and eating off the dirt. Speaking of unaccountability, Cheech Dana rolled in on Sunday with another overstuffed load from Louisiana. No video of the arrivals, no pictures or mentions of what she brought other than one is so sick with an upper respiratory issue that it had to be moved into the barn. Did the gray horse with cancer that Satan Tara gave them, make it back or did they leave him behind to die knee deep in shit in on that lot? If you dare ask after the wrong horse, you’ll be invited to dine on male genitalia and they will sick the village idiots on you. So transparent!
Once again, I’ve only scraped the surface of a whole lotta fuckery that went down the past few days. It’s difficult watching this all unfold and the answer is not looking away. There are horses disappearing, there are horses suffering and foolish people are enabling all of this. Charles Manson Michelle is missing in action with the excuse she isn’t feeling well. That’s likely not the whole truth and it doesn’t matter. As much as she would like it to be, this isn’t all about her. This is about the organization and how far off track they have gotten. They seem to believe that only they can save horses and they must take in every one they possibly can. They pay great lip service to `responsible rescue’ as far as fund-raising goes. Sadly, they don’t practice it. A huge part of responsible rescue is knowing your limits. I’ve seen both Romney and Charles Michelle mock other rescues in the past for only buying one or two horses at auction and not taking others home. I can guarantee you those other rescues didn’t buy off a kill buyer and they only took home what they had room to properly care for, not to stockpile in shit filled pens. I know I get branded a hater along with anybody else that dares to ask questions. I’m good with that. If that’s what it takes to get some accountability, then color me hateful. With me it will always be about horses first. I know many of the readers here feel the same. So, back to what I was working on until the next drama flare up. Keep the faith, people. Change is on the horizon…
Read about Casey yesterday. Horrific death for him. It is heartbreaking what’s happening to those horses in their “care”. Truly, village idiot describes the majority of their mouth-breathing followers. It’s impossible to be that blind. They are taking obtuse to a whole new level and it’s sickening. Thank you for writing about this. This blog may be the only thing between many of those horses and death. Hopefully they are running scared. Too scared to start shooting them all in the head. Hopefully.
Poor Casey 😦 that one really hurt my heart.
Casey was almost deceased is what was rumored around the ranch yesterday. He had been struggling is what was whispered but no one dared to say anything. I got that information via phone call from a person who still is there and keeping track of things.
I was a Village Idiot for 2 years and have been banned by Ingrid with her confronting me as being the “mole”. Actually, it wasn’t me but I have an idea who it is and I am keeping that to myself so they can continue to do what needs to be done.
I have been called at 11:00 A.M. to come in from my work in Orange Co to help feed horses because although all the residents were on premises, no volunteers showed up to feed. WTF? I work 60 – 80 hours a week to support myself, my family and my 2 horses. They tried to lay a guilt trip on me to get me to leave a meeting that I was supposed to give to travel from LB (were my office is located) to Valley Center saying that they didn’t have anyone to feed the horses. Again, WTF? Where was Michelle, Becky, Kat, Dana and Bri? They ALL live on the property. Why didn’t they get their fat asses out of bed at 4 AM, like I do everyday to take care of my horses before work, and feed the horses? I did go that night to feed and confronted Ingrid and Becky and was called more names than I knew existed and that I now proudly claim, thank you very much, and asked to leave HC and not return because I was unreliable and untrustworthy.
I know they had an offer to adopt a beautiful Arabian mare they have on the property by one of the volunteers and she was denied because even though she raised and trained Arabians for over 30 years they decided she didn’t have the experience to handle this horse. The same volunteer was told, I was there, that she would never be qualified to adopt one of the HC horses. She asked one too many questions I guess because Becky and Ingrid ganged up on her one day. I don’t know what has happened to her but she quit coming out and I really miss talking to her and learning from her.
Thank you for this blog and seeing the truth of what is happening.
Wow… I don’t understand the choice to sleep in when horses aren’t getting fed and how someone can justify that to themselves. It’s all about them and their egos, not about the horses.
Wow, this is terrible. Do they not understand the meaning of the word “volunteer”?? How about the people that actually seeing some of those donor dollars do something to earn them!
That’s my other major major issue. What kind of operation their size doesn’t have any paid employees? Volunteers are great for supplementing the work force and for doing extra, non-essential tasks, but it boggles the mind that they don’t have any actual staff to be responsible for those horses. Guess that would eat into the slush fund too much.
Romney is a paid employee.
I know who the moles or at least who my moles are. Ingrid is never going to find them and I’m never going to tell. She can hunt all she wants.
I personally find it hysterical that Ingrid is on the hunt for the “Mole”. You sure as heck wouldn’t be doing that unless there were FACTS and TRUTHS floating around that you did not want out. That in and of itself is vindication. I am also pretty darn sure that there are quite a few moles and she will be hunting a long, long time. Hopefully soon their utopian world is going to come crashing down around them.
Right? If you have nothing to hide and really are transparent, then there would be no need for moles.
Lol yes, Romney is a paid employee, and she’s probably the least skilled person there and has nothing to do with caring for the horses.
Still baffled by the idea of all those horses being fed and looked after on an uncertain and constantly fluctuating basis… way to prioritize, HiCaliber.
Exactly… the horses would benefit much more from an employee hired to consistently feed (and clean, but that might be asking too much).
They would benefit from a knowledgeable horse person.
Kat and Bri (not sure who that is) don’t live at the ranch. It is Becky, Michelle, Robin, Dana and a new girl that was on a video (Amanda/Andrea? she moved in where that other tenant moved out from). They said on another video that they have people paid as independent contractors now that feed sometimes. Guess the 400 volunteers weren’t reliable.
Amanda moved in after Brittany Lindell moved out and got married. Laurie and her daughter live in the 5th wheel.
Bri is Brianna. She was living with Michelle for a while back in March/April.
The former tenant left when the drama became too much and they began to see the place for what it really was…
There were several times where I have heard that people who could not commit to scheduled times in the morning were asked and told and expected to be late to work to feed the horses when no volunteers would show up to feed, yet when those people needed help feeding because they were alone, the Head Haunchos were nothing but crickets and ghosts.
Brianna A? I have some intel on her as well as far as horses getting flipped.
Furthermore, Charles Manson would want to hire paid staff but then funding would fall through or volunteers would be divided on whether to support it or not… then the issue with the feeding vehicles happened and that created a huge rift between the volunteers and the Board.
Looks like she manifested some new feeding vehicles though.
Furthermore, Charles Manson would want to hire paid staff but then funding would fall through or volunteers would be divided on whether to support it or not… then the issue with the feeding vehicles happened and that created a huge rift between the volunteers and the Board.
I live for these now. I was watching the drama unfold on Tuesday and couldn’t believe they made that poor mare trailer to a vet. I am certain any of my vets would have been appalled that she was made to take another step. I still can’t wrap my head around the hypocrisy of “not taking in any more rescues” and then heading straight to the auction. I was also watching the back and forth in the comments about the HC 6, or whatever, and thinking that you had warned this was going to happen. One of the villagers even pointed out that whoever is in that video promised that HiKillaber would take them if they weren’t placed. There is a link to this blog that has remained up for a few days on their visitor posts, I hope it is bringing some of the more skeptical followers around.
Too much to cover. We need a flowchart or info-graphic of their fuckery.
There is a comment from HC somewhere (if it hasn’t already been deleted) that says, almost verbatim, “We don’t have room for Louisiana horses but we have room for auction horses.”
The fuck?!
I don’t know who that could since the Louisiana horses are all so emaciated and dehydrated by the time they get there. Surely they take up less room than the Voldy flips?
If I was more tech savvy I would totally make one!
I’ve been asked by friends to make a summary. It’s almost too much.
To your point about Michelle being MIA. Do you think there is litigation ongoing? I know people were commenting on other posts with forms to fill out. Was that for the IRS? I really think the best way to bring them to justice is going to be over their funding, as you have alluded to before. I have no idea how to bring a suit against them as a citizen, but I would certainly donate to lawyers fees if it set them on the straight and narrow. (Also, the ramifications of them getting shut down are daunting. Where are all those horses going to go?) It’s a complete mess and the horses are the ones suffering.
If you look in the comment section on other posts, people have provide links for reporting financial irregularities. I do realize it’s daunting to think of them shut down, but I have faith in the horse community in a situation like that. We don’t stop trying to shut down kill pens because it would be a lot to deal with.
Oh I definitely want them shut down. Just trying to think ahead to what the game plan would be if/when that occurs.
I think that most rescues near them are well aware of what is happening and that a big crash is inevitable.
What would one like to see on a flow chart or info graphic? I’m wondering if my time would be better spent making something like that rather than the screenshots which have cluttered my desktop like you wouldn’t (or maybe you would) believe. I was thinking of making a spreadsheet with all the horses they have and then noting dates they were mentioned, if at all, medical procedures done on them, diagnostics, meds – if known or mentioned, adopted or not, disappeared or present, money raised for each horse… Give me a list of what you’d like to see!
I think a big reveal would be just how much money gets donated per horse. I was looking at the comments for the parking lot mare – someone flat out donated $200 for her fee, and people were fundraising above and beyond that.
Yes I think a spreadsheet would be very useful to keep track of horses and medical expenses. We could put together a Google Spreadsheet and give access to a few trusted and concerned watchers, that way we could update as we have time. It is deeply troubling that the horses that were donated by the family are nowhere to be seen.
I’m not too familiar with google docs but I can certainly figure it out. I’ll post here once I’ve got a start.
Have you ever noticed that they always seem to raise exactly enough funds for auction every week, but start at 0? They never seem to have a penny over which is really weird when you watch the comments and see how many donations are flying around. I recall one week Michelle literally standing there refreshing her screen watching the money come in while she was at Misner’s and when there wasn’t enough for the `responsible rescue’ overage, she then threatened to buy the horse and take it home and shoot it.
Train wreck, do you feel comfortable sharing your email address here? I’ll send you what I sent Shedrow so far… I’ve started a very basic info sheet for the LA horses. I’d like to eventually get all the auction horses, too. But it’s a huge undertaking. I don’t know how they take care of all those horses if I can’t even finish a damn spreadsheet on 37 or so horses in one day.
Even a tracking sheet on all the horses they brought from Louisiana would be helpful.
I’ve already started a “google sheets” spreadsheet. I’m going to keep it simple for starter… name, intake dAte, intake picture, dead/alive, mentioned again/disappeared
That would be awesome
Check your email. 🙂 Let me know if there is info you want me to add or remove. I only did one horse for now until we get the format finalized.
Thank you!
Concerned watchers, here is the archive link for their site, this may help track horses who are no longer listed: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.hicaliber.org/
Thank you!
Hey Concerned, sent an email to Shedreow asking that they pass along my email to you or add me to the spreadsheet.
Their sycophants refuse to see what is right before their eyes. They NEED to continue to believe that HiCal is the salvation and paradise that they have been led to believe…that they have given their cash to create. Otherwise it makes them fools. And anyone that might shine a light into the dark corners must be seen as making an attack on their beliefs. It’s like the followers of some smooth talking televangelist.
RIP-Casey. If someone got out there to feed before 12 noon, maybe they would have found him sooner. Horrific way to die.
Seriously, how long was that poor horse cast that it died?! And if he was in such distress, why didn’t Michelle shoot him as she claims to do in an emergency situation? Instead they call the vet who can’t get there in time, but yet they claim they will shoot them in that exact scenario? So which is it?
Michelle is MIA at the moment.
Michelle is probably on vacation but is smart enough not to brag about this time…
That’s is true, she has been MIA since about Friday night. I’m actually quite surprised, but then again she could actually be around but just not on camera or commenting. Although if she was, there is no way she could contain herself from being all invoved.
She rode in the parade on Saturday and was feeling salty.
Maybe Michelle is out buying bullets to put one between her own eyes as she was spewing a few days ago on live feed. Really something nice for her kids to hear about on Facebook especially since they are there watching her insane actions most of the time. I see Robins latest video update confirms both horses purchased yesterday have no issues. So What the heck are they saving them from??? Why the urgent need to bring them to HiCaliber where there is no Room?
Saving them from having good homes maybe?
Amen!
Guess Becky didn’t want to try since the last time she did she missed and the horse tumbled down a hill and had to be shot again.
Are you serious?????
Are you shitting me? I read somewhere that if you have to shoot a horse twice because you missed it becomes animal cruelty. That is revolting!!
HiCalHater is right.
Becky said “first and last time shooting a horse.”
RIP Grant
Heard it was a different one that went wrong, but Grant was also killed the same day.
I thought the exact same thing. I’m sure none of the residents get their fat asses off the couch to go around and check all the horses at night. No doubt poor Casey suffered for hours. I also bet he was dead when they found him.
I agree, there is never any hay in front of them and no one ever seems to be feeding anyone unless they are getting ready to be shot by Michelle. WTF?
Like the baby Secret who they said was found at 9:30am. With several on-site residents and “400 volunteers”, no one started wandering around until 9:30??
I’ve seen them on live feeds with the feeding crew behind them still feeding at 11:30. I don’t blame the volunteers, I blame the management. They don’t have it set up to do easily for them nor do they help when the crew is short handed. Far from Horses First.
Oh definitely. Things like that I blame those who live on-site, rent-free and can’t get their asses out of bed to even glance at the horses. I think the majority of the volunteers don’t know anything about horses anyway. For all they know, it’s normal for horses to just get thrown a couple flakes of alfalfa at 11am and 3pm
Yes and ever horse, no matter size or body condition only needs two flake of whatever twice a day.
What about baby Praline? Internal abscesses don’t just kill a horse overnight. That had been going on, unnoticed, for a long time by the time she died.
Internal abscesses while they were in the midst of a strangles outbreak. Kinda sounds like bastardized strangles to me. They never did say what Boyer’s necropsy results were either.
and if they’re not ok with the two flakes of hay, “they just don’t do well here”
so glad you are here, trying to “shed”, see what I did there on all this craziness. I too, used t donate to HC several years ago but things just got to crazy for me. I think the last straw for me was the Hawaii trip when they were talking about Michelle and Becky’s sexual encounters. I don’t care what you do but this has become to say the least, such an unprofessional organization. So many issues, we do you really start….
Can anyone tell me the death toll at HiCaliber Horse Rescue shit show to date? I’d like to post the numbers and names of the horses. Thx, as I am lost at this point…
It’s really hard to keep track of the ones that die because for most of them it’s not announced, and once they’re dead they’re gone from the website completely. So basically you would have to compile a list of every horse ever mentioned by HiCaliber / brought onto the property, and then go through and see which of those horses do not appear on any of the lists (In Rehab / For Adoption / Success Stories / etc.). Big job
I am starting to do just that. Stay tuned.
The one last good home horses are rarely ever heard from again being an example…
Thank you concernedequestrian for making the chart. Much appreciated !
This is what is so difficult. Michelle has often stated that they don’t announce every horse that dies because the village doesn’t like sad news.
The other issue is that since there’s usually no information about the adopters on the “success stories” page, there’s nothing to stop them from just shooting a horse that’s not super high profile and then putting it on that page as if it had been adopted. I don’t think anyone would question it.
Half the villagers don’t think to ever ask after a horse after intake. It’s on to the next.
They said several times that they do announce euthanasias on the volunteer page. Did they actually do that or was it another lie?
Even if that is so, shouldn’t that information be available to the public? What about some old person that is giving part of their social security every month but is unable to volunteer? Do they not have a right to know what is going on with the horses they help sponsor?
I totally agree… instead, they wait until someone asks about a specific horse and then they’ll try to come up with an explanation. That means people have to remember their names to find out any info…
You can’t trust what any of them says and Rene is a true moron. She’s in Nevada so nowhere near the place and basically regurgitates whatever the other board say or sounds good in her pea brain.
Horses suffering in the identical manner as feeds lots and slaughter hauling, and people just don’t want to see it fir what it is.
Followers of this post: Please start making some noise; noise where it will do some good. We can all do the “smh” posts on here, but like I said before, that is simply preaching to the choir. And yes, I have done some noise making, but I am only one voice. They have a village. We need an Army!
And how do you suggest we make this noise ? Can’t do on hi cal they’ll just delete it.
No point in fighting with the villagers. They dont’ want to wake up. There are several links posted in the comments here that would be excellent ways to make noise with the right people.
I have filed complaints with Department of Justice asking for an audit of their 501c for fraudulent fundraising and assets (horses) going missing. As well as zoning violations with San Diego county for being over the legal limit of horses per usable acre. I believe anyone who cares about these horses should do the same. Please let me know if anyone wants instructions or links
Yes please!
Thank you. I hope as many people as possible follow your lead, especially those that are local to the situation.
girlwiththegreenkayak – posted this down further in the thread….
As we all know they are well over their legal limit of horses (10 horses per usable acre of land and they have a total of 11.64 acres of which not all is usable), they do not dispose of manure and they have a tenant living in a trailer. These are all violations of San Diego County’s zoning codes. If someone should feel so inclined, they could always fill out this confidential online violation report…….
http://www.sandiegocounty.gov/pds/ce5/request_an_investigation.html
The address is: 11223 Calle Oro Verde, Valley Center, CA 92082
The APN is: 1282404100
also this taken from another blog:
HiCaliber Horse Rescue, Inc.
EIN #: 46-3960722
California Attorney Generals office:
Complaints call: 916-445-2021
FAX: 916-444-3651
complaints@doj.ca.gov
Complaint Form for Charities:
Click to access ct9.pdf
The complaints should include fund-raising fraud regarding the fact that they are misleading and lying to the public regarding the collection of funds for 16, or 20, or 35 (which is it?) OTTB’s, but they are not all, or even primarily, off the track Thoroughbreds, which is fraud.
They are also misrepresenting the situation regarding they must buy them all, which is false because they didn’t even know which horses were which when they began the fundraiser.
They have also “misplaced”, and maliciously shot to death several hundred horses (which are considered assets) from 2016.
They need to be investigated regarding all of the horses whereabouts that they already attained through the use of donation money on fraudulent fund-raisers using the threat of horses shipping to slaughter to collect donations.
An audit is also in order regarding the past 3 1/2 years since when they first registered with the state of CA and the IRS as a nonprofit (October 16, 2013).
Thank you for the links. Good info!
The only issue is unless you provide substantial evidence over a period of time, together in a document form ,it probably will go into spam
I was officially banned from HC private groups because I told them I wouldn’t be back. LOL. They are running scared since someone on the inside is spilling information to the authorities. IMO, and my opinion only, Michelle has had too much Fireball. I’m truly worried about the current equines that are there now. Several really nice horses are “in training” by people who have absolutely no idea how to work with abused and/or sensitive horses. the cowboy them and the poor horses are freaked out. I have a feeling these horses will be disappearing in the future. Volunteers are leaving and the property residents don’t do any work voluntarily. I’m glad you’re here to help the rest of us keep an eye on things.
Yes, Ingrid is mole hunting. She’s not very good at it though. LOL
Ingrid isn’t much good at anything actually… been there, seen it
Not good at all!
The issue with Ingrid mole hunting is that if they are so transparent, there should be no such thing as a mole amongst their volunteers, right? Everything is out in the open and fully transparent, right?
You would think. When you have nothing to hide and you really are transparent, then you have no worries. It’s a wonder they don’t all have stiff necks from looking over their shoulders all the time.
Glad I’m not the only one who has been banned from those pages.
Ingrid gave a deadline and yet the moles still exist… hmmmmm…..
There are more moles than ever before actually. Just like a levee breaking, it starts with a trickle and then it lets loose. Just takes one brave person to come forward and then it becomes safety in numbers.
It took me the better part of 3 yrs to finally come to grips with the truth. I feel ill. As a once proud villager who donated, shared, rallied, engaged on every single post and truly believed that HiCaliber walked on water, I’ve now come to realize how blind and naive I have been. Louisiana did it for me. When a ‘rescue’ cozies up to killbuyers/flippers who are famous for baiting and switching not to mention starving the horses in their care, then I’m done. Yesterday HC said they couldn’t help the ‘bad backyard’ horse in their area because they were knee deep in the Louisiana horse purchases. So going half way across the country while turning down an owner in need in their backyard is now ok? There’s so much deception afoot and horses are suffering and dying in droves while Michelle and Romney likely pocket a good portion of the exorbitant donated funds. Michelle even said they’ll likely do it again. I’m so disillusioned and angry with myself for believing them for so long. Their latest actions are criminal and so very deceptive. It’s time for the authorities to step in now. These women need to be held accountable for the fraud and excessive killing of horses to make room for their hoarding ways. Now that they’re besties with Tara and Jacob I have lost the last ounce of respect for them that I was clinging to. No wonder there are so many detractors across the general equine and rescue world raising the alarm. No one is allowed to ask the simplest of questions any longer. They probably have a lot to hide since this OTTB20 started. Their transparency is now nonexistent . I looked up ‘histrionic’ yesterday out of curiosity and nearly passed out. That is SO Michelle! I loved her antics in the beginning but now see why she’s called that. She’s become meaner and more unhinged as of late. So now I will try to do damage control with all the people I brought to HiCaliber over the years. They deserve to know that they are being scammed and taken advantage of. Thank you Shedrow for helping those of us who have had a ‘funny feeling’ for a bit actually see the ‘why’ and the ‘how’ of this equine version of the Titanic. My heart aches for those innocent horses. They are no more safe at HC than they were at Thompson’s or Voldy’s. Too many bullets are flying at the ranch now.
Found the Truth, I am in the same boat. Seemed like such a great rescue four or five years ago but things have just gone crazy. After my visits, I started to question what I saw there and what I would see on FB, the two just didn’t marry up together. I do know the horse I donated the full fee for was saved as is living in the desert, others I have no idea. 😦
Don’t feel bad about yourself because you wanted to help save some horses. I think everybody here does. Most of us were fans of HiCaliber at one time or another. They used to be a decent rescue. They lost their way. As a fan and observer, that’s hard to see and realize when you’re emotionally invested and Michelle and Romney are social media pros. They are good at what they do as far as drawing people in and making them feel a part of something. Look how many have fallen for it. Now, they’ve finally gone to far and people are slowly waking up. Trust me, I bit my tongue and sat on things for a long time before I started to come back to blogging and expose this stuff. It’s not `happy work’ trying to sort this out and each day I get information or stumble across something that is even worse than anything I could imagine.
PS. You don’t have to call him `Voldy’ here. We name and shame kill buyers. It’s Misner.
If not for this. Log, I do t know where I would go for ‘de-programming’. Their seduction is subtle yet effective. ‘You’ are our village, we answer to ‘you’, the horses need ‘you’ to be safe, we are family, what do ‘you’ want us to do….etc. It can be intoxicating for those of us who miss having horses and living that life. I swallowed my tongue when Voldy….errr sorry….David Misner and Bubba first became their auction partners. It was for the good of horses we were told. So we shut our mouths and eyes and nodded along. Now with the fundraising fiddle fiddle, Michelle playing vet to very sick horses, the weekly turnstile rescues, the love affair with the largest kill lot in the US (it in fact is not!) and their overall unaccountability to anyone with questions, well there’s nothing to do but find a different rescue that is reputable. Thanks Shedrow for not making me feel like a total asshole. I can see that we are a growing group of refugees if you will.
Don’t feel like an asshole. You broke free! I get why people want to be a part of things. Who doesn’t want to help abused and broken animals? Congratulate yourself for being able to see through it all. I think 98% of us on this blog were supporters or fans of theirs at one point. It takes awhile to accept that all is not what it seems and let go of those good feelings.
🤦♂️Major Face Palm!!! I thought his name really was Voldy (Voldemort). I kept thinking, “How odd that he has the same last name as an evil Harry Potter character.” I swear I’m smarter than that…usually. Bahaha!
LOL!!!!
I only lasted a few months because I asked an honest question and was told point blank that it was none of my business and to just keep cleaning stalls and waterers because that is what i was there for, not to ask questions.
Wow.
HCHR is good at deflecting…
And they wonder why volunteers dropped like flies.
They boast 400 but less than 50 show up throughout the week, and that includes the feeders.
That’s why stalls are always deep in shit, waters are empty (North Herd went over a day without water before anyone figured out their autowaterer was defective), and it would take 2-6+ hours to feed depending on which busted ass vehicle you got and if you had any one to help you…
If they set up proper feeding stations, feeding would go much quicker and easier for the volunteers. Of course that would mean some hours and effort on a weekly basis from somebody to set it up for them, but if it helped retain volunteers then it would be worthwhile. I used to set up feeding stations for myself so I could golf cart it most of the time. It seems to me that Michelle can’t accept that living on and running a ranch with that many horses is a sun up to sundown job 7 days a week.She should be out there working harder than any other person.
Funny you should mention Tara – she was on live feed this morning professing how she makes 6 figures a year, has hoards of money in her savings and she can help everyone to be just as blessed as she has been. Wasn’t she just last we trying to start a fundraiser to build shelters and fix at THL because she spent all of her savings on THL improvements already. So many lies she can’t remember them all. Then she was showing off her Mercedes trunk full of donations for THL. Unbelievable! Then she has on camera two 3 legged horses that she was going to put some salve on and “they’d be fine”. She should have called the vet! Especially since she had a dead one laying out back that was already sold and died probably due to old age. What a Crock!
She lives in a trailer park and that’s a step up from the barn she was living in a few months ago. Just sayin…
I called animal control one time. I was attacked by this rescue and their hordes. I was called all kind of rude, profane names. When I said I do not care, they attacked another rescue. Funny, nothing was said about the welfare of animals. Sadly, the founder of the rescue loves to mention she is a former animal control officer.
Former, being the operative word. She also claims that she was the one that volunteered to euth all the dogs. Who does that?
Wow is that right? Michelle is a former animal controller? She has a liking for killing things! That is really worrying.
A sociopath does that…
I’m surprised they haven’t blocked one villager in particular. She always seems to voice her opinions regarding Voldy and I remember she made several comments against the LA deal. Of course, she ended up catching crap from other minions but that’s not surprising. Maybe she donates enough for them to overlook that.
Money talks…
As we all know they are well over their legal limit of horses (10 horses per usable acre of land and they have a total of 11.64 acres of which not all is usable), they do not dispose of manure and they have a tenant living in a trailer. These are all violations of San Diego County’s zoning codes. If someone should feel so inclined, they could always fill out this confidential online violation report…….
http://www.sandiegocounty.gov/pds/ce5/request_an_investigation.html
The address is: 11223 Calle Oro Verde, Valley Center, CA 92082
The APN is: 1282404100
Who knows if anything besides the main residence is a permitted structure, I could not find any permits drawn for them.
You the real MVP
I can tell you firsthand that there aren’t any permits for the residences and nothing is up to code in the houses.
Mold, electrical issues, leaks, water problems, irrigation issues….
and there is a pig living under one of the houses
Like an oink oink pig or a relative of Michelle’s?
There is a pig living in the house – her name is Michelle!
Must be Dana’s house then… she posted about a pig a few months back if I recall.
I’ve already sent one in and the key wording is usable acre of land. We need more people to send it in though.
I get the idea behind turning them in for violations…for sure. But the end result will really hurt the landlord who may not be aware of all the circumstances going on with his property. I say this from experience of having someone call on a tenant of mine who did things I was unaware of and it cost me thousands and thousands of dollars and the tenant just up and walked away leaving me with this massive mess and massive bills.
Just my 2 cents
They are in a lease agreement where they are supposed to buy out the property by September or so. I believe the landlord has a right to know what he’s likely going to get left with and the village needs to know that their money is likely going to buy Michelle’s home for her and I can see her going full on kill pen broker once that happens. She does not seem to give a shit about true rescue or stopping slaughter.
The violations I referred to above being land usage and manure mounds directly correlate to the horses quality of life and overall health. Think of the sanitation issues with the manure and the amount of flies and larvae. I could give 2 shits if she is living in a giant mold spore, it’s the horses they are jeopordizing. The owners and the public should know what is happening with that property. Especially since the public is paying for it.
I agree
**** I forgot to add that the 10 horses per usable acre that the property is zoned for is contingent upon there being an administrative permit which HiCaliber does not have.
Totally agree with the violations pertaining to the horse rescue being reported. I can’t believe neighbors haven’t complained.
A lease to buy purchase still means they can walk away and just lose their option deposit and possibly any monthly payments that went towards the purchase.
It’s crazy but I think these villagers would fork over their money to buy them that property.
A pig. Under a house? WTF!
I feel for the landlord, HiCaliber will end up walking and leave that landlord with a nightmare!
WHATJUSTHAPPENED- they are kinda isolated from what I remember. Not sure people can really see what is going on. And they usually don’t give out their address unless you are going for a tour, do they do the saturday tour anymore?? They used to say it was to protect the horses. sure, sure.
You can google their address easily enough and that will bring up a zwillow page with pics of the houses and property.
Here’s a thought. Lets start a fundraiser where each of us would send in s certain amount and lets hire an attorney right there in her backyard and let them send the grapes of wrath after her legally and shut her down. Judges and city officials usually are pretty chummy with local attys and will generally get er done! Any thoughts?
I hesitate to send them more money than they already get. I think as a registered non-profit they have to open their books to anybody that puts in a formal request though.
I have been there a few times. It is a gorgeous piece of property and I was really impressed with their facilities but they were not nearly as crowded as they are now. Last time I was there was about a year ago.
They are remote but the road to get to their place has at least 15-25 other homes. But it is horse land all around so homes aren’t on top of each other.
This blog is now more addicting than their Facebook page. They are either deleting the “hater” comments very quickly or everyone has just grown tired of them.
I’m really curious when Michelle will show her face on FB Live again.
Bummed for Becky, I talked with her each time I was at the ranch and she seemed super cool. i never met or saw Michelle when I was there and one time was for a large fundraising event. Generally, you would make a point to be out and meeting your supporters.
Might be a minute before Michelle graces us with her presence.
I used to kinda cut Becky some slack, but it turns out she’s a pretty major asshole herself. She just doesn’t come off as abrasive as Michelle.
Their newest post tonight is bribing people to take a pasture puff for a 100.00 amazon card bought with the publics money! It’s pretty obvious they got a clue people know they are over capacity and we’re going to receive a visit from the County. That my friends is as transparent as I have seen them. Lol
Shed, I know you are feeling cranky so it was probably a slip of judgement… Please don’t demean donkeys by associating them with the bottom feeders. Swamp Beasts, swamp maggots, swamp scum, whatever. A couple of my dearest friends are donkeys.
I apologize to donkeys. I like donkeys. Swamp donkey is a fairly common derogatory term that is unfair to actual donkeys.
I always wondered about her neighbors and shooting horses in the face. Wouldn’t they hear the gun shots? Is that legal to shoot a gun in the city limits? Wouldn’t the neighbors report that? The must be hearing a lot of gun fire recently unfortunately…
I don’t think there is a neighbor close enough for that to be an issue. They are fairly remote.
And if she’s using a .22 (which she says she does) it’s probably not making a huge amount of noise anyway 😕
4horses the area is in an unincorporated area of Valley Center… the ordinance for discharging firearms is different there.
Yes, neighbors are around and yes, gunshots can be heard… but the neighbors also shoot so it really isn’t a perceived issue.
I agree regarding demeaning of donkeys — but doubted you disliked donkeys as who could.
If they are shooting horses what are doing with their disposal?
They claim to have a `humane’ removal guy that picks them up, whatever that means.
It means they have a guy who knows a guy who also knows a different guy who employs many tiny fairies who lift the bodies effortlessly and gently and then float them into the air-ride knacker’s truck, rather than the oftentimes gruesome process of body removal… if you donate an extra $100 or so they’ll make sure the fairies stay with the body in the trailer so it doesn’t feel any bumps in the road.
yeah, removal isn’t pretty at the best of times,but I’m more concerned with what happened before they ended up under the tarp.
Someone asked a simple question yesterday “How many horses are you up to now at the ranch”? And was met with a bunch of defensive responses from villagers, and a few who were rational enough to think that was a ridiculous way to respond to a simple fair question. Then…this gem fro HiCal spokesperson that made me spit my coffee: ” HiCaliber Horse Rescue: Last comment deleted and Shelby, you’re on notice. Our villagers are defensive, but you don’t get to call them assholes. I won’t block you for asking how many horses, but I will for being rude to the people who support the lives we’re saving. It’s not necessary and there was a lot of polite follow-up explaining the defensiveness. Let it go… or go. We’re following the brilliant lead of Tara at Thompson’s Horse Lot & Co. and not allowing the BS and drama. Our page, our world, our rules.”
Following the lead of a scamming bottom feeding faux kill lot queen. Nice.
We posted at the same time lol
They are profoundly stupid. Even if they thought that was a trolling question, if they were truly transparent they would answer adn move on. They cost themselves money and support by being assholes like that.
I have screenshots of that entire conversation. Just in case things start disappearing…
So do I! LOL
I saw that! Wow, one question and the village idiots are on you like flies on shit! Hopefully their “village mama bears” scare newbies off and they find an actual rescue to spend their money on. And maybe some OG kool aid drinkers will take notice and see this isn’t what they had signed up for.
Still have yet to see any invoices, receipts, ANYTHING for LA horses…should I stop holding my breath? I wonder how many are still alive? AND I REEEEAAALLLLY am wondering where Michelle is????
There is a way to start finding out with FOIA, and they legally have to comply. I haven’t researched far enough on the time frame and legalities towards a 501c in California, but will and the first should be how what where and how on the Louisiana horses along with all medical and pictures of each horse vetting and transport, that in itself will be over 100 pages
I would stop holding your breathe. A few of them left the property immediately adn will likely never be heard from again. Sully was in trouble as of a few days ago. Dana’s load that came in Sunday have not been introduced other than a vague pic and reference that one is in the barn with an upper respiratory `issue’, so I’m thinking that load was bad or they’d have shown it to prove all us `haters’ wrong. One of the minions was trying to say she had a six horse trailer. we’ve already proven that her trailer is only a 4 horse.
I know where Michelle is. I can’t say right now.
Oh No Shed…you know where Michelle is? We are waiting with baited breath! I think she is in court with her ex over the kids, or in a rehab, or in jail or in having testing done to see just how insane she is!
Can’t wait to hear!
I will say this, put the FOIA on the Louisiana horses, everyone and their vets are going to start shitting in their breeches
It’s a shit show to happen, it’s not going to happen within the county
Thank you for putting together this shit show. I have been following HIC just a short time, but the stuff I see just boggles the mind. People just hand over whatever savings they have every time they fart. I think with this Louisiana rescue they themselves started to put the nails in their coffin. With each shit show they are hammering it down. A person got attacked for asking how many horses HiC has, no concrete number but oh about 200, love all their round numbers. They only company that seems to be able to get really round numbers. My favorite is when Romney said they are following the brilliant lead of Tara and THL.
OMG, I took screenshots of that whole mess. I like that she responded 200 including horses in foster, at a trainers, over the rainbow… whatever. Complete avoidance of the question. It’s very telling. Someone also posted to the page with a comment from here asking how they vet the trainers they send the horses to. Let’s just say HiCaliber’s response was not reassuring.
Not that anyone who is a part of HiCal would have any qualifications to vet a trainer, but you’d think even they could have checked out Andrew Fice’s FB ahead of time and avoided that wreck. But no – instead they continue to give him more horses. Anyone with $1 can get one – oh and an incentive gift card, too! Maybe they’ll start doing random drawings for a horse like Tara, since her ideas are all so brilliant.
It actually crossed my mind that they may attempt the draw for a free horse. They’re now paying people to take them so why not hold a raffle for one?
Train Wreck, that was me, that asked about the trainers.
Go fed up! It was a very valid question. Their response was “if you have a question about a specific trainer, ask us,” which is NOT the appropriate response.
They said they have about 200, BUT some with fosters/trainers, that it’s a “fluid number” and currently higher with the LA horses. (basically, no answer to how many AT THE RANCH). So NO ONE has a head count of horses on the property right now? How is anyone ensuring everyone gets fed, checked on…? (rhetorical…)
Oh I am SURE someone knows the rough number, and I get the impression it it astronomically high, which is why the “fluid number” bull. I also saw that person say they were going to pull out of donating a truck, I hope they were serious and find another worthy rescue.
I was thinking maybe they also don’t want to admit to an exact number and have it used against them since they’re way over what they’re allowed to have on that property…
Romney seems to have a bit of a girl crush on Tara.
I didn’t think of this but what is Jacobs parole conditions on selling livestock across state lines? And Tara and Romney if they could they would put the two feedlots together and call it a day, living on other people’s money
I’m not sure what Snakey Jake’s conditions are. I know he’s not allowed to write checks and he’s got a 5 year ban from registering that feed lot or something. I’d have to dig up the paperwork on that I have. Suffice to say that Tara is a major liar.
Buying and selling livestock does not violate his probation. He has to make a living in order to pay restitution.
For the record – On 4/25/2016 in Hopkins County Texas, 8th Judicial District, Jacob Thompson plead guilty to a first degree felony theft of livestock and a second degree felony theft of property. He received 10 years’ probation for the first degree felony and 10 years deferred probation for the felony 2.
I know he was back in jail since than for a parole violation so not sure if any of that has changed.
I didn’t see the comment about the trainers, what was their response??
just that I needed to ask about specific one. So I did and haven’t had a response. —f there is a specific trainer you have concerns about, please feel free to message the page. Most of them have already been addressed publicly by Michelle in videos and earlier posts. -lp
Shedrow; I’m not holding my breath. There’s many moving parts, state not going to to anything, federal , everyone is shitting in their pant
One person in the comments said she has donated “small amounts” every Tuesday but before she opens up her pocketbook, she needs questions answered. She was going to donate a truck after they were answered, but seeing how others get attacked for asking a simple questions she is not and is just going to sit back and watch for answers. HiC possibly lost a huge donation because of their “villagers” more damage control probably is coming, as they are loosing more and more people, and possibly big donations. Will stay tuned
I wish more people would ask more questions before opening up their wallets.
People see that 501c3 and think they’re golden, and their website does look very legit, although they have far more horses listed than any equine rescue I’m familiar with here on the east coast. I wish they were big enough to be rated by Charity Navigator.
Next to no information on any particular horse though. Just a picture really.
I saw about 4/5 people say they were going to donate, but they had questions and everyone had at least one of the same ones, how many horses, with seeing how that went they aren’t asking, but holding out donations until they will get answered somehow. i hope it starts hitting them in the pocketbook and people take a stand. It’s their money, not Michelle’s or whoever, people can decide how things are run and which answers are needed
As for the horses that disappear in the night, the villagers are told that they are in foster. Period, end of sentence
Again, don’t ask questions or the horses suffer..
Yeah, like Fido went to live in the country. *eyeroll*
Oh yeah, their newest board member is and AC officer named Kat (I can’t remember her last name right now) but they were bragging about it on live feed when the LA horses arrived.
Tarnowski. She’s been a test rider there for awhile.
I saw that
Maybe ask for an updated version of this – http://hicaliber.org/content.cfm?n=rescue-list
That list is way out of date and she has her own horses that she sold listed as adopted. They are such liars with their numbers. They count private buyer purchases as adoptions and crap like that.
I had attempted to purchase a private horse from her, but she pulled this shady BS by trying to use HCHR’s adoption contract as the purchase contract, and that I “could just alter what I didn’t like”. Um, no…There’s a LOT more that went on surrounding that poor horse that I can’t talk about openly, but UGH…I’m still so angry about it. I just hope the horse landed softly.
If it got away from her and hicaliber at least it has a chance.
Seems like tours stopped completely some months ago as well, if I’m not mistaken. Can’t have potential donations getting cut off due peeps seeing the shit show there are the “ranch”.
when I was there for a tour in 2015, Michelle was going on and on about how hard it was for here to talk in front of so many people and that she would get sick to her stomach before a tour. Well, she sure got over that didn’t she?
boy, didn’t she.
Everytime I see one of their update videos of one of the horses being eaten alive by the flies, my heart just breaks. What a miserable existence. Standing in a small pen, no shelter from the sun and the flies are merciless. They have nose to the ground trying to find something besides horse shit to munch on. Damn HiKilliber (love that name) I’d like to see you live like that for one day.
So Becky shoots a horse, doesn’t kill it, it rolls down a hill and has to be shot again? I am at a loss for words and so mad I am gritting my teeth. Mr Winchester doesn’t like Becky very much does he? That is more humane than chemical euthanasia? No, just cheaper. Yeah, you’re right Shedrow, Becky is just as bad as Charles Manson.
Speaking of Charles, I wonder if she believes that having Ingrid and Kat on the Board, serves as some sort of protection?
Poor Charles not feeling well? Yeah, she is ill alright….mentally ill. While people are wondering if she is okay, she probably is in LA checking out Thompson’s operation and putting together a business plan for HiKilliber Kill Pin. We all know that there is not much chance of a totally recovery from this shit show. Too many defectors and abuse of volunteers. If they truly have 400 volunteers, why the hell can’t th horses be fed at a timely manner? If they are so-o-o-o-o-o-o transparent, why would there be need to look for a mole? Poor desparate Ingrid, you need more than a man right now. Tammy Faye is unusually quiet. It’s been about 24 hours since she had a pity party for herself. Don’t get me wrong, I know that the loss of her son was unbearable, but damn girl, give it a rest because you are wearing it out. How do you onor his memory by using him to get donations? Cry on Tammy Faye.
They are probably wondering how they misread the kill pen purchase so badly. Romney probably believed she was so beloved and infalliable that no one would ever question her actions motives and methods. Charles Manson just saw dollar signs and figured the average village idiot would just eat up all this drama. Sorry, I am not sorry to see this massive failure. I think it is the beginning of the end. I hope so for all those miserable horses, in the small pens, being eaten alive by flies, but not allowed to free feed. Fuck you Charles Manson, Becky, Tammy Faye, Ingrid and on and on and on. Just fuck you!
Charles has been taking a little ride on the karma bus. You’ll be hearing from her shortly.
Their arrogance and greed got them wrapped up in the Louisiana shit show. I think it backfired badly and I don’t think they can recover from it at least not with the current personalities involved with HiCal in any way. With some of the things I have to come out with in the next few weeks,I wonder how anybody could trust them ever again.
Romney is as evil as any of them and is even worse for pretending to be so christian. I’m very sorry about her son. I have tried to leave him out of things, but damn she won’t stop playing that card and the kid actually hated horses. Enough already.
I can’t wait to hear about michelle and you are right about Romney, she is an opportunist and con artist who saw a chance to make Hicaliber her latest meal ticket. As for Becky shooting the horse? what normal human being would want to do that? Just so she could put a notch on her belt? Speaking of guns- Does anyone happen to know if Mr. Winchester is even registered???
She’s on live feed right now. Lying, but on live feed from the hospital. She got her ass dumped at the Valley center parade.
They started their own shot show crying ssinf state lines , if they just rode the gravy train they’d have a couple more years
Wait – hold on a minute – Becky shot a horse and it didn’t die? When did that happen and how did I miss that? Please elaborate Not Stupid or Shed some light on that subject. I totally missed it.
Tammy Faye couldn’t have been to devastated over her son like I first thought otherwise she wouldn’t have jumped on that plane so fast to LA. BTW why did it take two idiots to go down and handle that on Villagers numbers?
I’m still wondering about where Michelle is Shed and waiting with baited breath of course!
Patience. yes, we’ll get to it.
Michelle just took a little ride on the karma bus. She’s back.
Justinshock, the comment about Becky shooting the horse twice is about mid way between here and the beginning of the comments.
I just cant believe these idiots!! Who does that. Becky is a moron! The poor horse she experimented on! I can’t believe that can be legal! Maybe Michelle will shoot her too when she goes on one of her insane rants and happens to be spending the night with Mr. Winchester!
Becky will just move on to the next.
The time has come for us to gather on Facebook. There’s already a group exposing Thompson’s lot so a couple of us are following suit with HiCaliber. Shedrow, we are of course starting out with your blog series. Would it be alright to screen capture parts of your writing, photos etc.? With proper credit ignore course. Here’s the link to the group for anyone who wishes to participate. It’s brand new and in need of members!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/831617193658294/
Help yourself. Just link back.
Thanks. I absolutely will.
Not sure if you can but you may want to make your members list private. I could see everyone’s name last night. Just a thought since people on here have said that there has been bullying from the HC side if they know you are not “with them”.
Yup. I can see the names of all the members.
Time to Gather… I’ve sent a join request, although I belong to both HCKill and the Village Idiots pages for monitoring the Grievous indiscretions of both. I have extreme guilt over the number of deep-pocketed friends invited to their group that donate weekly. I have been working desperately share this blog with each person comma as to limit any further damages. My Facebook profile that has a picture of me in shorts taking a picture of my large Grill, who looks Buckskin in the photo since he’s wearing a winter coat, and my background picture is of him and a miniature cow who’s left horn is just barely growing back from a unexplained dehorning at my last boarding Barn. Also you should find references to my roots in Georgia and my attendance and recent graduation from La Sierra University here in Riverside. I hope that you are able to validate everything and should you need further information, please message me back on the board. Thanks in advance!!
*with proper credit of course
Why is HiCaliber Facebook Page not showing up…it is down?
It’s showing up for me. Try this link https://www.facebook.com/HiCaliberHorseRescue/
It just came back up…that was weird!!
It’s there.
Timetogather, be very careful who you let in. Check them out very well and see if they are members of HiKilliber. Hopefully you are the only one that can add new members.
Good advice. That’s why I’ve put information here. FB isn’t all that secure and they are weird as far as removing things.
I went to your page, and I “subscribed
Yes, I’m the only one who can add new members.
I just went to add myself on
I sent a request to join. On my Facebook it shows I follow hicaliber but I am not or have ever been a villager. I have asked them a benign question or two, but have seen the dark side and now watching the shitstorm.
Every time in the past when there is an error in THE HERD on HiKilll’s website, it is stated that the site is maintained by volunteers who have jbs and lives. Who is that volunteer? There have been no additions of any of the “OTTB20” (whatta joke) or the last several auction purchases. Is everything going to shit? Do they not want to lists the LA purchases because it will prove the fraudulent fund drive because they have to list the breed of the horse? Is the volunteer one of the defecters? The veil of transparancy is suffocating huh? Why is that not being updated?
Did anyone notice the loan Charles took on the 2015 990? Interesting.
Yeah, i know the story behind that. I will get to that eventually, when some other things get cleared up.
Time to gather, if you are or have any associal with Rick or Laura Bell, please let us know. You and one other member have new looking identities and I do not recognise your name. If you want participation, we have to know who you are. I just left the group until I know who you are.
That is completely understandable. I have no association with either of those people. However, I did post the latest blog by who I assume is Laura. Is she persona non grata? As for my profile, it has been dormant for a long time and I’ve just recently started using it again. The other ‘new looking’ profile is a very close friend whom I trust. Suffice it to say that I’m an extremely dissilusioned FORMER supporter of HC and have a fire in my belly to gather all of the intel that is available into one place. What they have been eating away with for too long now must be stopped. It would be nice to have some help with the new group so I’m up for adding to the moderator roles as needed. There was another anti-HC fb group that is now dormant so I feel there’s a void in that forum. If the honchos at HC send in spies then so be it. The more pressure we can exert on them to shape up the better! If you have any questions you are welcome to msg me on fb. I’d like to join the ranks of those working hard to expose the dirty dealings of these brazen, fraudulent women.
Everything helps. I’m glad people are fired up.
Thanks for being candid. I totally uhderstand the fire in the belly. Good luck with your new group. Much success!
Hope you’ll come back at some point. Thanks for the well wishes!
Are the Bell’s friend or foe? Just curious because I consider them whack-a-doodles
I’ve featured them on this blog years ago. They have a personal axe to grind with HiCaliber adn they make stuff up. Not everything they have put on their blog is true and I know that for an absolute fact. Still, they do stumble across the odd nugget that is worth looking into.
I actually hid the post on Starlight, not because I’m ashamed of it, because I’m not, but other whack a doodles are now fixating on Starlight to try to throw people off HiCaliber’s trail and I don’t want any part of that craziness. The Starlight issue is over for now as far as I’m concerned. There are bigger fish to fry here.
That is why I asked if the new group was associated with the Bells. I don’t think that the facts need to be exagerated or made up because it destroys credibility. I have nothing personal against them but shy away from less than 100% factual information.
I have nothing to do with the new group nor am I in it obviously.
associal = association or covfefe…whichever you like.
OMG! Too bad she didn’t break her lips! She surely is enjoying those meds huh? I can’t even finish watching it. She annoys me beyond tolerance. Take my word, she will use this to her enefit, She is telling people what hospital and room so they can send flowers. Really? I am usually not this mean and critical but she just pushes me past my limit. Academy Award? Not even close.
She was also begging for wine and whatever else she can get. I have zero sympathy. She brought this on herself.
Why was this such a big secret for 5 days?
Probably because she’s embarrassed she straight up got her ass bucked off no matter how she tries to spin it. It was also the worst kept secret ever. Playing it for dramatics.
I happened to be at the parade and did not hear of or see any actual bucking or naughtiness that would land her on her backside. I did hear of a horse who started spinning and the rider got off then an associate started to discipline the horse. Whoever that genius was disciplining the horse backed it right up to an older couple in lawn chairs who had to jump out of the way.
It’s a parade, they’re horses but something doesn’t resonate with her story. It wouldn’t surprise me if she slipped in shit and landed on her backside instead of falling off a horse.
HiKill needs to use crowdrise.com It tallys donations and has running totals for each drive. Places for comment from donors. But it is probably too transparent for HiKill “Fundraise online and raise money for charity and causes you’re passionate about. CrowdRise is an innovative, cost-effective online fundraising website for personal fundraising pages, non-profit fundraising and event fundraising. Raise money online for causes and have the most fun in the world while doing it.”
Did anyone see the video of Michelle in the hospital with supposed L-2/3 broken in her back from falling off a horse the day of the parade. Oh and the doctors also found swollen lymph nodes in her stomach and a 6 mm spot or something on her lung.
While I am not a doctor, I can certainly Google info. Magically with the lumbar breakage she was able to ride in the whole parade. Really? I looked up a few medical sites and they are basically saying the person would be a parapalegic and not be able to walk. Yet Superwoman was able to ride in a parade and mount / dismount her horse.
So, sorry if I sound like an asshole, but she can feel the squeezing of the leg things that help deter blood clots in your legs. She did have bruises on her back but also her inner thighs, which confounded me.
Also, i believe the newest scam is going to be the medical fund for Michelle – just wait – I’m sure it’s coming.
I frankly don’t believe a word she says, as she kept up the bullshit story of having a TBI, yet could write prose that would rival Walt Whitman. I had a TBI – you can’t think straight, are confused a lot and I was literally stupid and could not comprehend small things for 6 months. Plus, it was proven in her request for medical retirement that she was full of shit. She could bartend and make change for people, etc.
do I think she fell off a horse? Yep. Do I think it’s as bad as she says – nope. But we shall see. The minions that write stuff for her on her page aren’t saying what hospital she is in. Maybe she is afraid that someone will actually check on her. But there can only be so many hospitals in the area. Wouldn’t take much to find her.
Ok done with my assessment of the situation.
She did get bucked off for sure. with the bruises on her stomach and thighs I’m guessing it was spectacular. She’s being over dramatic right now because I’ve fractured lumbar vertabrae and wasn’t as dramatic as she is about it. She’s making it sound like they are busted in half, but she likely has fractures, which isn’t hard to do. Kinda like she kept saying that dog Rez had a fractured spine as he was walking around.
She said what hospital she was on the live feed when she was trying to get people to send flowers, gifts and wine. She even gave out her room number.
I wonder if she was riding in her foolproof method of just a halter? Bet if she would have had a bridle on, things might have turned out better, or maybe not. When you are in a saddle that is several sizes to small, you are much more likely to be dumped. Sounds like it was the perfect storm. ill fitting/wrong tack, bad rider and a whole lotta cockiness. 🙂
She was riding in a rope halter and I saw footage of her in the parade and she was just fine but the horse looked pretty agitated even with his buddies by him. This is the horse she was `training’ to be a police horses and helped herself to for a $1. I’m worried about his fate at this point.
priceless!!!!
I really hope the horse doesn’t end up w/ a bullet between the eyes. This sucks.
So far he’s still on their feed chart, but she may want to shoot him herself or be waiting for the drama to die down. She owns him so very little anybody can do.
what do you think about the rescue that HC sent the orphan filly to? asking because ive been there a few times and theyre clearly taking a leaf out of HC’s book, and not in a good way (if a good way would even be possible). so just wondering if you had any experiences with them.
also thanks to your blog, ive finally managed to get my family to stop donating to HC. hallelujah!
I think they have been a super decent rescue in the past, but are in danger of going down a bad road. I’m not sure of what the dynamics are between them and HiCal but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Remember that not everybody that supports Hicaliber are bad. Some people really do think they are awesome because they dont’ know any better. People local to HiCal have likely heard the stories of bullying and intimidation on HiCal’s part so find it easier to just bite their tongues and get along.
I hope your family doesn’t give up on rescue all together. There are still many good ones that need and deserve support. Those ones will always be happy to answer questions.
Oh I don’t think everyone who supports HC is bad! But like I said, I recently visited MOP and a lot of the horses (some theyve had for years) aren’t looking that great. And like HC, they have way too many horses on their property and can’t quarantine properly.
But I just wanted your feedback on them!
My family still donates. They stopped donating to HiCaliber.
My misunderstanding! I agree they have way too many horses on not nearly enough land. They say they have 18 acres total including what they lease from the neighbor buy maybe only 2/3 of that is usable and probably closer to half.
where did the filly go? I missed that? Sorry.
She went to Mea Ola’s Place
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