Happy Friday! I thought I’d better get this fired off before the weekend so I don’t get stuck playing catch up on Monday again. It’s been a busy week already and I’m sure it’s going to roll that way right through the weekend at the rate the HiCalibrites are going. So, as they position themselves and groom the village idiots for another big ask, I thought a post that more than illustrates some of my issues with The Manson Family would be appropriate right now. We’ll get to the million part of in a bit, but for now let’s start with saying a few names, ask after a few others and look at some milk carton horses, because they’re a big reason why I write this blog.
Stacey is the first horse we’ll talk about today. As with a lot of these horses, details are pretty sketchy after her initial intake. We do know she was found by a villager along with another horse that was promptly named `Fuckboi’ by those classy ladies at HiCaliber. The Fuckboi name didn’t last very long when they found out there was a family that had unexpectedly lost their son/father/husband and they wanted to make a donation. Fuckboi was promptly renamed after the deceased family member, and Stacey was named after the wife. They named a third owner relinquishment `Emmy’ because the decedent had won an Emmy award in the past. The family was very touched and even came out to visit the horses named in their loved one’s honor about a month later. That was the last time Stacey was mentioned and all trace of her has since been removed from the HiCaliber website and pages. I’m not sure if we should start saying her name or asking for updates. I fear it’s the former.
Cristina was `rescued’ off a muddy hill side back in February. She was brought into HiCaliber along with her buddy, Jodi who was in much better shape. I really wish I could tell you a bunch about Cristina, but I can’t. She was said to be `pushy’ which, as we have come to know, doesn’t go over well with Manson. She also was said to have some arthritis issues, although she didn’t look horrible in the intake video posted above. Sadly, this video was all we ever heard about Cristina. The village idiots didn’t really latch onto her or her story and she was quickly erased off the face of the earth. Her buddy Jodi made out a bit better. After hauling Becky and everybody else’s ass in various parades and trail rides, she was recently adopted into what hopefully works out to be a forever home for her. It’s a shame her pasture mate didn’t get the same chance. RIP Cristina. #sayhername
Beautiful Joplin was only 6 years old. She was purchased back in January of 2016 and was hung with the dreaded `neuro’ tag at some point after, although none of her described issues scream `neuro’ to me and there was never a vet report shown on her. They never showed her on moving on video that I can find either. Warmbloods sometimes move different, especially if they are `big’ movers. Maybe that’s what was really going on with her, maybe it wasn’t. Sometimes those types of hind end issues need a horse put into a form of work/rehab to resolve. It’s certainly worth a shot if the lameness is mechanical and the other option is death. I couldn’t say what was going on with Joplin without seeing her but I do know that Manson cannot pick out a hind end lameness to save her life. I’ve seen her misdiagnose countless ones on video and half the time she isn’t sure of the body part she’s looking at. What was the last one? A luxating patella that was likely going to be a compassion pull, but turned out to be nothing even close? Yeah. At any rate, Joplin hung around on the pasture puff menu for quite a long time and disappeared at some point early this year. Manson has not answered questions as to what happened or why and she’s been scrubbed from the website. We all know what that means. RIP Joplin #sayhername
I find that at the very least, HiCaliber sucks hard at doing regular updates. They move horses in and out so fast, the villagers rapidly lose interest in them once the thrill of the save is over. They don’t get a chance to invest in their story or become attached. Even a horse that is rehabbing, they aren’t given regular updates so they can follow the journey. That’s why it’s so easy for horses to vanish. The next two we’re going to talk about I honestly do not know if they are alive or dead. I don’t know if they were adopted, rescue transferred or went to foster. I know they are not anywhere on the website as either a success story, foster or available. They are simply gone. The first was Anne. She was purchased off Misner for $200 ( plus the $650 top up) back in February. Even though she wasn’t at auctio, naturally the village raised the funds and they picked her up along with their other purchases that day. Anne was seen on the Freedom Walk. She was never mentioned or shown again, not even an intake video. I find that kind of sad considering the heart wrenching fundraising post they made about her. #whereisanne
Cotton is another missing horse. He was bought in the chutes at auction back on April 11th for $200. We do know he made it back to the feedlot as he was very briefly mentioned as being in a pen with the ill-fated Taj during a flash update on April 15th. They both were bought at the same auction, which was a more chaotic than usual time at HiCaliber due to what was going on with Romney. Not to make light of a personal issue, but safe to say that many villagers weren’t all that focused on the horses after purchase at that time. All we really know about Cotton is he was blind in one eye and those types of horses don’t seem to last long at HiCaliber. He has since been scrubbed from the website and never mentioned again. People donate money to purchase these animals and support them. They deserve to be updated and told what becomes of them. Sadly they either forget to ask or afraid to ask for fear of banning or being told to eat a bag of dicks. #whereiscotton
Meet Nicky, Nicky Boy aka Chivalrous Copy. Nicky isn’t missing or anything. Yet. He has been at HiCaliber for a few weeks and he’s not on the website or even mentioned. He’s one of those owner surrender horses that tend to vaporize without a mention. Milk carton horses make me really sad. Horses being erased off the face of the earth make me really angry. That isn’t honoring them or treating them with dignity or respect, so I’m going to tattle. Nicky is alive and Nicky is at HiCaliber. Nicky was very loved by his owner and I won’t get into what I was told about how he came to be at HiCaliber right now, although I was told he came with some supporting funds. I was also told that he has some soundness issues, mainly old tears in both front suspensories, that tend to flare up after hard work. That would very much limit him from being ridden hard and I most certainly hope he doesn’t end up having to pack a heavy rider around. It always confuses me why they whine about these owner surrender horses and not being able to raise funds for them, but how can they when they never tell people they are there? Why is that? You’d think they’d want to move them out ASAP while they still look good and before they cost too much in care. Before they `go feral’ out in the bigger paddock. Why take a horse like this in and just let him stand in a small pen? That isn’t good for an older horse with soundness issues. They need to move around or they get stove up and then they end up shot in the head for soundness issues. So, let’s say `Hi’ to Nicky and not let him disappear. Let Manson know this horse is on the radar as of now. #HiNicky
I feel like my emotions are being toyed with again. It seems like every other month, Romney Faye threatens to leave or step back. Now she says she’s quit, but we’ll still see her on Tuesdays. WTF is going to be different? It’s not like she ever spent any time at the ranch anyhow. She’s not a horse person and before people start clutching their pearls and spazzing out, it’s not about the loss of her son. I’m sure most of us that read here have suffered some loss in our lives and you can’t really compare one to another because, when it’s your loss, it’s literally all you can handle at the time and the worst thing you can imagine, so yeah, I’m sorry for all of us that have had loss. I’m a whole bunch less sorry about it given Romney Faye’s cunty behavior all week long including mocking somebody else’s tragedy and bullying somebody for daring to show up on her turf on Tuesday, because that’s really putting horses first. I can’t help but think that this might be a case of rats and ships given the current climate at HiCaliber and then you have this little gem from 2013.
It’s like this whole weird deja vu thing going on. Romney Faye jumping ship before it all comes apart. The thing is she helped Starlight acquire many of those horses. She was deep into the feedlots back then and a lot of her fundraising techniques were nearly exactly the same as the ones she brought to HiCaliber. The cultivating of relationships with the `benevolent’ kill buyer and all the urgency posts. She talked a lot about saving from slaughter even back then and that’s why I hope she truly has hopped on her broom and is leaving horse rescue forever. For all they years of slaughter talk from her, she still hasn’t the first clue how the pipeline works or any of the details and challenges advocates deal with every single day. You’d think if you cared so passionately about an issue you might take the time to find out everything you could about it. I couldn’t find one single mention by her of the SAFE Act or really anything about getting it all to end. Just variations of `the truck is coming’ since 2013. So yeah, I’m not too broken up about the exit of Romney Faye Baker at all if it comes to actually pass. Hopefully, she’ll leave horses alone and go rescue gold-fish or something. Bye girl!

It has been released!
I think we’ll keep things short and sweet today. These milk carton posts are a lot to digest for most of us. Horses shouldn’t disappear from a rescue on a regular basis. Horses shouldn’t be dying for no good reason. That’s one of a many reasons why I write this blog. When this resolves, and it will resolve, I’ll focus on other things, but for now I’ll see this through until something gives. People can screech, whine and moan all they want. You can bully and become the very thing you say you hate and I’ll keep telling the truth and voicing my opinion. I don’t change my values because I get threatened or rejected like some people. I’ve always said if HiCaliber stopped hoarding, abusing, neglecting and torturing horses, I’d move on to other things. I don’t expect Manson to go to charm school and become a nice person and I don’t really care what she does as long as animals aren’t suffering. If she had nothing to hide, she’d answer questions no matter who asked them because one way to shut a hater up is being truly transparent. Show those vet invoices and reports that say all those horses had to die. Save the scrubs for Halloween and let real vets do the work on these animals. Please, stop giving me so much to work with all the time. Stop lying. That would be a great start too, but for now I’ll keep on doing what I do.
This is a bit off topic and more than a little petty, but given the tantrums and tiaras being tossed about this week, it probably is worth sharing. Awhile ago, one of my haters thought she’d be generous or bitchy to `offer’ me a job writing for her publication but I’d need to be heavily edited and all. I don’t think she was serious. I sure hope she wasn’t. I’ve always laughed at that website even back before she made it worse. She thought it would entice me or impress me to know that they got `thousands’ of views a day. I think that’s what she was trying to do anyhow. I’m happy to say though, that I do ok with this `terribly written’ blog, double spaces and all. We passed a million views this week, which is pretty decent work for about 4 months worth of posts. To the people who read and share and even the haters that park on this page and constantly hit refresh so they can screen shot me, I just wanted to say `Thanks a million’. Ciao for now! Have a great weekend!
Thank you. Great information. Your great
Such bullshit. Horses with thoughts and feelings just scrubbed, erased, shot for what? Because Michelle feels they have no value? They’ve served their fucking purpose after the initial manipulative beg for funds?
Joplin was gorgeous! Say her fucking name #HiCaliberJoplin
Stacy may not have been “worth” much to several out there but she had feelings and thoughts of her own. What were the results of that pregnacy test? Say her fucking name #HiCaliberStacy
Her pal Chris??? Languishing in a shit filled pen. Say his fucking name #HiCaliberChris
I know there are many milk carton horses that I don’t know or remember so maybe people here can help me remember and let others know we the haters haven’t forgotten.
I have hope for #HiCaliberDragon. Michelle, I think it’s time to let him find a home. Take up one of the many offers you’ve had on him. It feels like you’ve got another “big” deal in the works for the Villagers and I know you’ve found a little show of good will goes a long way for the Villagers opening their wallets. Please, prove to the people that this hater is wrong. Make a huge show of goodwill and let a group of horses go to someone else.
He is still at SLREH with no updates.
I’m glad he’s at San Luis Rey. It’s a positive at least.
Boy, the lack of updates is sure teaching me.
He was taken on Friday the 8th to SLREH & yet no update. Don’t even know if he’s still there. Not even a fundraiser for his vet bills which is not normal for them.
Was still there the day before yesterday.
Stacey was euthed for extereme DLSD.
she had it when being loaded onto the trailer to go to the ranch and she declined more while at the ranch.
Yeah, I heard the words “extreme” DLSD bandied about. She did have something going on in the back for sure. I’d like Michelle to show proof. I also don’t doubt she declined further. You know the conditions if you’ve been there. I also understand DSLD is not a death sentence. Yes, it can be miserable and horses should be put down once it becomes unmanagable. Again it’s up to Michelle to show burden of proof. Not collect funds and throw words around to offer proof for mechanical euthanasia.
She declined more what? Why keep her death a secret if legit? Where is the vet report of him signing off on it?
They all decline at the feedlot, that’s no ranch…
Wasn’t Joplin euthed in March?
Rhiannon talked about it I thought in her post, that she became ill the same time she had Grace. She believed that she was euthed for soundness and having strangles? Does that sound right? Someone correct me if I’m wrong please
HiCaliber had strangles late Autum 2016 to early 2017. I’m not sure of Joplin’s euth date but again strangles isn’t a death sentence for most horses. It effects the young and old more so than a healthy animal. Just like colds or flu with people. Putting what other people say aside, does Joplin look like an animal that would decline quickly with adequate care and a case of strangles would be the end of her if treated properly or at all? Again the burden of proof goes back to HiCaliber and Michelle. I’d like to see actual receipts from a Doctor not just words or hearsay.
Agree with this. If she was euthanized for having strangles my hunch is that it was more a matter of the inconvenience of quarantining and treating her than it was a matter of her life/death prognosis.
It would have been a matter of Manson feeling her life had no value if she couldn’t be ridden.
Or that she couldn’t be bothered to spend more money on her if it was looking like a long and inconvenient road to getting her adopted 😦
Not really. There was interest in her even with her issues.
Ohhhh I’m very much aware of that 😦 😦 😦 I just meant I think she had been on the payroll for too long for Manson to want to keep dealing with her, let alone with strangles…
I agree
So I googled Stanngles. I’m not familiar with it. One article said it’s appears to be like a common cold but with an abscess (how that is like a common cold I’m not sure.) another article said it’s airborne and another one said it’s not. That’s google for you. So I will just ask you guys. I get it’s an infection, all of the articles say it’s treatable with an incubation of 3-14 days before the abscess shows up (may be true or not true.) Is it like bronchitis with some with contagious blister’s? (I hesitate to use chickenpox or hand foot mouth disease that people get but I am trying to understand what it is.) Can they get it again?
Strangles usually involved s large abscess under the jaw. It needs to come to a head and drain and you can help it along with hot packing it. It is a strep bacteria and is contagious through contact. I don’t believe it to be airborne but I could be wrong. You’re more likely going to get it through cross contamination. Shared water, fences, equipment etc. Many young horses get it and recover just fine. It comes a problem when it bastardizes and that means the abscesses go internal rather than breaking out. They can be anywhere and they can kill a horse. HiCal reportedly had some die from it this spring. I believe Gertie may have been one. Once a horse has strangles they don’t get it again BUT in rare cases they can still get purpura when exposed because they are basically allergic to their own antibodies against the disease. I had a horse like that. Scary stuff. Also, very young or very old horses that get strangles tend to get it worse if that makes sense. Personally, I avoid it at all costs and it IS a big deal as far as herd health despite what Manson says.
I personally don’t care what Manson says. I was just looking for some clarification from somewhere other than Google. Thank you for for response. Once again I have learned something new. Obviously it happens, it’s not a good thing but if you know what your looking for it can be treatable. I would have never known if it wasn’t for this blog. So again Thank You
Yes and isn’t nice to be able to ask questions and not be called a twat and also get blocked! Lol
ABSOLUTELY 😉
I really hesitate to say this but… It always seemed more like strep throat with the swollen lympnodes If we’re comparing it to human illnesses. I don’t remember all the details but it sucks. It can be airborne and transfers through contact, Food, water, touching one horse then another without washing. Plus dragging it around on your boots. Its generally gone in about 2 weeks in an average age and health horse. I don’t think all horses get sever abscesses.
There are exceptions with carriers and then bastardized strangles. I think both sit in the guttural pockets??? Pouches???
So imagine over 100 horses with various ages and health. Not to mention the really wet winter with shit and water cross contaminating in the pens. The swollen glands that would swell and burst on their own. You think kids have snot noses? Imagine some poor thing starved for attention and your trying to get the big snots and luggies out of the water troughs without giving the poor things some love and becoming a carrier yourself.
Having said all that… It’s gross and miserable but still not a death sentence.
I know it can live in the dirt for quite a while. Don’t believe it’s airborne though.
It would be as far as a horse coughing in proximity to another. Same as somebody with a cold or flu cough sprays you, you’re likely going to get it.
WOW!! I am kind of speechless. Thank you for your explanation, it definitely put it all into perspective.
Bastard strangles affects the internal organs and can be deadly. It is not common. The strangles virus can also be in the dirt and on stall walls, pipe panels, etc. It is extremely contagious.
Thanks OG!
I’ve had strangles at my ranch. We quarantined those affected as far away as possible from the balance of the horses. They were the last to be fed and watered because they were treated with flushes of the puss pockets before feeding. All clothing worn was removed, including shoes which were dipped in bleach water, and people who worked with affected horses showered and changed before handling other horses. It didn’t spread from the initially affected ones to the rest of the horses and we gave the others the strangles vaccines. It was awful but only lasted about 30 days. However, the strangles germs will remain in the dirt for much longer so the ground the sick ones lived on was left unused for several years. It is ugly, but not fatal. The sick ones recovered and went back to their normal work about a month after the infection set in.
All of you are amazing. Thank you for the education!
In the “old” days, there two iLlnesses associated with horses under stress.
One was a simple “shipping fever” in which the horse’s immune system breaks down and they suffer temperature and snotty nose, sometimes a cough. Good care, warm soft bedding and security with time bring them around. Shipping fever used to be a challenge to avoid and a source of pride when it was – those who skipped a step in the care of horses being transported were revealed when the horses came in depressed and then sick.
Strangles is another story. That is a serious invasion of the lymph system and destroys tissue with purulent discharge and can cause long term damage woth scarring, reduced lung capacity – sometimes an eye socket becomes involved and sight is reduced, the tissues produce more discharge to protect itself, the horse is seriously compromised and this is the contagious version. Filthy kill pens, auction yards,. Feed lots. Dirty transports. Horses that are sick (and showing discharge) and transported are spreading active sources (like someone sick with the flu on a bus or airplane). Every horse is at risk in those places mentioned above and once the virus is picked up, the horse is a carrier and will come down with it if it’s immune system is lowered by starvation, dehydration or fear. But that being said, and I’m no expert – anyone rescuing from those places or using questionable transports has to quarantine the horse – to help it fight the attack on its own system and to protect other horses.
But strangles in itself is NOT a death sentence although foals will die or the elderly horse just due to its system being overcome. To kill a 6 year old horse because it broke out with strangles and then justify it is fantastical.
Close. From my understanding, they called it “soundness issues” but the real reason was likely strangles. Unlikely that she had declined so dramatically and suddenly that she needed to be euthanized after maintaining more or less the lame level of asymmetry for a year and a half +, or that she was even “neurological” to begin with.
#RIPJoplin
#youcouldhavebeenloved
Don’t recall. That’s why I mention them here. HiCaliber won’t say so if I throw it out in the open, the answers tend to come. For instance, turns out that `Anne’ had a penis and became Glaze. One accounted for!
Oh geez! Poor Glaze. They missed both his penis and his brand on intake, apparently.
LOL!!
How did they miss a penis??😂🤣😂
Apparently it was Romney that missed it. We may have an explanation for her newly single status as well.
Anne is totally Glaze. I compared the photo here to the one on the website. Same halter and lead. The date of 2/21/17 is also the same. How strange. How can you make a big ole sappy post about “her” when “she” is actually a “he”? WTF?
I could see it if it was a kitten or bird we are talking about. Those can be difficult to tell, but horse peen is fairly obvious!
Manson must’ve been staring into his “soulful eyes” #vomit
I wonder if she stares into those same soulful eyes right before she blasts them in the face with her .22?
To be fair, wasn’t that post made before they tool possession of him? I could be wrong, I normally don’t follow their page that closely but “she” kinda grabbed my attention.
They were still calling her `Anne’ while she was freedom walking.
Are they only taking in owner relinquishment horses that come funded now? I only see them do courtesy posts. Wouldn’t that just figure.
I think they put “heavy pressure” to donate on owners who need to relinquish a horse. I would not find it surprising to learn they turn away horses if the owners can’t cough up the funds to support them. Don’t most people relinquish horses because they NO LONGER have the means to support them?
HC has a history of admitting they fail when trying to raise funds for relinquishments. Is anyone really surprised? Without the thrill of “saving from slaughter” as well as seeing comments from the mean hater girls, the villagers are reluctant to cough up money. Where’s the excitement in knowing you donated the last $10 in your back account in order to help a horse the owner can no longer keep? It’s much easier to just not make a fuss about the horse and have it quietly disappear, and not tell the villagers.
HICaliber is no longer a rescue. They have strayed far from their roots and have become nothing more than a feedlot belonging to a horse trader. It’s really sad to see, especially since so many of us used to be big fans…
I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that a family gave them $10k to take those appies. Here it is a couple of months later and they are back with the that family (albeit a different person).. does anyone know if any of the money earmarked for their care was returned? There is no way they spent all that money on them in that amount of time. I know HiCaliber will say it was a general donation, I’m just curious if anyone knows what the story is from the family.
I don’t know anything more than I’ve shared. I think the family wants their privacy back and probably won’t share any further details.
What a horrific nightmare for that family. I’m glad the got the horses back…minus one?
Yes, one was put down at HiCaliber. Hopefully that was done by a 100% vet.
That was the first time I saw the real truth. Another rescue said no and HiC said money talks. Thank you SrC for bringing it up! Otherwise it could have been more heartache for a grieving family, just like Cheryl. I’m glad the babies are home.
I can’t blame them. 😢
Wasn’t Lupe the one who was put down? Funny (peculiar, not ha-ha) that they’re counting her as an adoption…
charity was the one put down. Lupe, Breezy, Pat and Tillie went home.
I have no clue. I’ve always wondered why they rarely mention these poor horses. Nicky is super cute. He could easily get a home. I hear he has extensive ground training is quite fun to be around.
Nicky is very cute but what do they mean no hard riding? You can’t expect him to herd cattle or it’s okay to do some simple arena riding? It would be helpful if HiCaliber would say if the horse potentially has ringbone or whatnot but I would suppose that might require a vet and some transparency.
If he’s got supsensory issues, I wouldn’t ever ride him without support up front and, for me, that would mean no hard turns, pounding or strenuous rides. If they blow a suspensory you’ve got big mess on your hands. I supposed they could just a sports medicine boot to ride IF they knew how to put one on properly. I’ve yet to see any of them put a proper bandage or polo on, so I sure wouldn’t suggested a tracer or exercise bandage while he’s at HiCal. I also don’t think standing him in a small pen is doing him any favors the more he can move around freely, the less likely he is to get stove up.
Oops… I reread and see suspensory. That one is hard but still can be ridden around if you don’t have high expectations right?
He could like go on an easy trail ride, yet. I wouldn’t be galloping or pounding him around on hard or uneven surfaces.
Well, he would make excellent eye candy at the very least. I’ve come across a horse with suspensory issues who is basically eye candy and boy would they still like to get out and go.
Again HiCaliber making things out to be a life ending scenario when there are still other options.
Depending on his disposition he may make a really excellent child’s mount for lead line or something. Besides the fact you don’t always have to sit on a horse to enjoy them. Many therapy programs just feature interaction with horses which has its own therapeutic value even outside a formalized program. Crap, if I’m having a bad day, the first place I head is out to the barn.
Because life ending is always in their best interest! They make a profit every time a horse dies!
With a good rehab program a blown suspensory can be dealt with. I’ve seen some come back as good as new (these were jumpers). But that also entails a vets care and a long gradual rehab. Emphasis on long and on gradual.
I’ve never seen one `as good as new’. I’ve seen them pretty good, but I believe they are at risk to come apart more so than a horse with no history of that injury. It’s so not pretty when one comes apart too.
Throwing my opinion into the mix, because why not: I do believe that *some* suspensory cases can indeed come back “as good as new.” Like anything else, there are a lot of variables at play: Hind or front leg, location of the strain (high or low), severity (obviously), genetics, age. Whether there was a specific underlying issue that caused the injury (like a shoeing problem or pain somewhere else that the horse was compensating for), and whether that issue was resolved. What kind of exercise the horse did in each phase of their recovery and if that exercise was sufficiently intense to encourage elasticity and correct alignment of the healing fibers (progressive overload), but not so intense that it damaged the fibers faster than the horse’s body could repair them. What kind of treatment/therapy the horse underwent (if any) and how early or late in the recovery that treatment was received. (And yes, I know this applies to almost any soft tissue injury, lol.)
Some horses suffer a suspensory injury and never come all the way back to work, some horses have multiple recurrences, and some horses never have issues with it again – even when performing at their pre-injury level and above. Impossible to say what a given horse’s future soundness or abilities look like without knowing their full history, having copies of their initial (and follow-up) ultrasounds (and a vet you trust to interpret them for you haha), etc. Even then it’s dicey to make predictions, lol.
I have no idea what this particular horse’s story is, I have just owned and ridden a lot of horses with soft tissue injuries in their histories (#poorhorsekidproblems) and thought I’d share my experiences!
All in all this is an interesting conversation. But from what I gather from everyone’s opinion is that “no, not a reason to put a horse down”. If he has a cute personality and good ground manners he very well could make a great kids horse on lead or just putzing around for kids to have fun and get the feel or a late blooming adult rider who has the time and the money to invest in a first horse project horse.
^^ Precisely
We have a mule who had suspensory branch tears and she healed extremely well. Granted, we don’t rope or compete but we do some decent trails in the Superstition Mountains and Northern AZ. She was on stall rest for a while with hand walking. Took a while, but she bounced back. This place is a money-making, hoarder scheme. You can’t even call them traders when they refuse so many placements.
Popcorneater, I love mules! I haven’t been around one in years but I’m jealous! I’ve seen the mountains you’ve done trail rides in from a distance and think that would be loads of fun to try. 😀
I hope Nicky gets a chance. Its ridiculous all the good horses getting put down.
#saytheirnames
The Kraken has been released? I must have missed it’s unleashing.
I only heard it’s been released on me by Pasterfuk. I assume it meant he cracked open a fresh bottle or something.
I’ll hand it to those two.
They both seem to have an affinity for alcohol.
Match made in heaven.
I was thinking of taking up a collection so we could send them to anger management classes or a self awareness workshop or something.
I’ve seen some of those rants lately and she is something. She must be real insecure. All she does is boast about herself.. and always seems to want to make this whole situation about HER and how “awful” you’ve been to HER. She seems to actually believe everyone is jealous of her. MAYBE there are one or two that are.. I have no clue but you can’t make me believe everyone annoyed with her is green. That seems to be a common form of deflection among women, “Oh they are just jealous of me and my Amazing life!” 😂
I never actually mentioned her name to begin with. I called her out for something she’d done and I do have the screen shots of the text messages of the situation, and she went ballistic. It’s been going on for a few months. I did name Pasterfuck later, because he was douching out too, but damn they are so thin skinned it’s hard not to poke them. I’m still waiting for her to sue me for my opinions. Hopefully, the person she thinks is me will foward the papers.
Since the Emmy award winning journalist claims her reputation is untouchable even with all the defamatory lies being told about her, she should have a hard time claiming damages in her big lawsuit.
She is her own worst enemy. If anyone has damaged her reputation it would be her. Her new affiliation/not affiliation with the HiKilloligist Cult will not bod well with those who care about equine welfare.
Oh hell, I have screen shots of her saying that nobody could damage her because she’s so important. Then I have screenshots of her flaming herself by saying she’s accomplished rather than respected. Plus her saying `I am shedrow’. So she can F herself as far as I’m concerned. I have way more important things on my desk to worry about than her hurt feelings and thin skin. She can build a bridge and get over it or not. I don’t really care.
@Lily, you forgot those kinds of people’s universal hashtag #blessed lolol
A messed upworld when our new red flag is #Blessings or #SendingLove or even #VolunteerDirector.
Truth – always. There will always be fools ready to fill their lives with empty promises.
So, basically, they flushed a guppy and got all excited about a maelstrom in their toilet.
Nicky / Chivalrous Copy is stunning! Even with soundness issues, that horse would be a wonderful find for somebody. Not sure why owners are relinquishing to HiCaliber when they are very clear that they are not a sanctuary. But I guess that they’ll make an exception when the horse is accompanied by funds. Sounds like they just wait until there is no more publicity, kill the horse and keep the money. They are not a rescue. They are a kill shelter. Only with equines instead of dogs and cats. And they don’t admit it.
There aren’t a lot of sanctuaries with space available. There are retirement farms but they’re expensive. I think owners get desperate and think that HC is at least a horse facility. Honestly, I’d rather have an older or unsound horse euthanized (by the vet) than sent to a sketchy “rescue”.
There are also equine therapy programs that will sometimes take a horse or they could place the horse themselves. A lot of options other than dumping them on the feedlot.
Good point on the therapy programs. Definitely better than the feedlot.
I had a friend who relinquished 3 horses to HiCal. Two were elderly mares, one that was classified as pasture sound by my friend’s vet, and a mare that was in the beginning stages of DSLD. My friend’s father had passed away and was in a very difficult position of dealing with not only her father’s death but in dispersing the horses left behind. HiCal stepped into the picture and offered to find these 3 mares forever homes. My friend sent a large donation of money and tack a long with the mares. Two days later, the DSLD mare and the pasture sound mare were shot. The other elderly mare was sent to another rescue shortly thereafter. My friend found out about it and asked for the vet records showing why euthanasia was necessary for the 2 that were shot. Michelle produced a doctored video of the pasture sound mare looking very stiff and a photo of the DSLD mare who had been set up very badly to make her pasterns look worse than they actually were. No actual vet records were provided. Manson unleashed the HiCal rabid lap dogs who began attacking my friend, who already felt horrible for what had happened to the two mares. Had she known what HiCal was she NEVER would have let her dad’s horses go there. I know my friend well enough that if euthanasia had been called for she would have called a vet and taken care of it, not foisted it off on somebody else. She was grateful for HiCal’s offer to help her place the horses. #saytheirnames, #AVAristocracia, #Marissa. Shed has mentioned them on a previous blog.
Those were the horses that started me digging up other owner surrenders. Turns out that it isn’t uncommon for them to just go missing. I will guarantee you at least two or three of those Appys would have vanished had people not taken an interest.
So awful. So very sorry for your friend and her horses. Michelle/Manson is a disgusting excuse of a human.
My heart goes out to her in trusting these charlatans and to the horses who were innocent and did not deserve the handling they received at HiC. I truly believe she had no intent to expose the horses to abuse by Manson. This is one of the very immediate reasons why this group must be shut down. At their heart, they kill – arrogantly and without authority.
Believe if my friend had known about what HiCal really is, the horses would have never come near these people. She is not one to shy away from a difficulty decision. She honestly thought the horses would be safe and in a good place.
That was one of the worst betrayals of all. Those two were killed within days. Then they sent their village idiots to attack and talk shit about her deceased father? Right, but don’t you dare say you’ve had enough of Romney using her child’s death to raise money.
I am also angered by thinking of what they must have done to AV Aristocracia to make her appear so stiff and sore in that video they used to try and justify shooting her. Cheryl and that mare gave me my confidence back as a rider. Neither one of them deserved betrayal like that. Ari was the last horse I rode. I haven’t been on one for 10 years. I will never forget her or the fun I had with her and Cheryl on her dad’s ranch. If it hadn’t been for Cheryl and her dad’s horses, Ari in particular, my first separation from my husband due to military deployment would have been very difficult. Justice for them and all the others that have had the unfortunate experience to land in this feedlot cannot come swiftly enough.
This just makes me want to cry. To read this story of how these horses meant so much to someone that wasn’t even their owner. To end up in Manson’s unscrupulous hands. Trigger happy bitch! People trust you with their beloved horses. Who’s the real twat Manson? I think you better go to church and pray real hard. Although I don’t believe anyone can wash the dirty off You! How do you even look at yourself in the mirror knowing what you have done to make a buck!
Now some pieces fall into place. Thanks Shed!! Keep up the good work.
#saytheirnames
#iamshedrow
Keep up the good work! Don’t horses with DSLD have dropped pasterns? I’m no expert on it….The ones I’ve seen were all dropped down to some degree…that mare doesn’t look that way..just saying
Most do; some do not have dropped pasterns. It’s not just a disease effecting the suspensory ligaments, however. It’s a systemic disease.
Maybe someone will reveal where these missing horses are. Again, villagers…
I read these outrageously mopish pleas and the mind goes to the old fabled mantra – come hither, said the spider to the fly.
On my list, I have 43 horses with “?” as their current status. I’m pretty sure most of them are dead. I don’t understand how none of the villagers are asking where they are. Or, I guess they just get banned if they try.
Doesn’t it just make you sad and sick?
Most of them have the attention span of a gnat with ADHD.
I think most villagers are behind a computer screen egging Manson on and waiting for her to stir the pot or rally the typing pool. They’re the type that likes to get more because they like to name them. They need more because they have names they want to give them. These people forget once the horse loads the trailer to head to the feed lot.
The actual volunteers feeding and getting treated like shit while Manson rides around in her cart or takes a few select to go riding – the actual volunteers, they notice but are probably too afraid of being told to leave and not come back.
Those are the volunteers need rescuing as much as the horses.
Would it help to post them here with question marks?
I hesitate now posting lists because people take them out of context… but a few, if anyone knows the status… Esperanza (came in April 2016, said to be “on founder watch” then not mentioned again), Levi (also April 2016), Maryann (Apr 2016), Sarene (was mentioned in a post this February) – same with Kiana.
FFS, they named a horse after our amountsin fire????
Sereen/sareen is still there on the pasture puff list. She delivered a premature foal while in foster care. Manson refused to allow the fosters to get her vet care so she was returned tot he ranch.
Shed~ What would a vet normally do for a mare after a premature delivery? Isn’t there a concern with the placenta?
Yes and you’d probably want to flush her out. Also find out maybe why. Some diseases can cause mares to abort so it’s always worth getting vet to take a look.
Thanks, good information.
Say their names!
Shedrow, I love how you always get the upper hand and the last word when it comes to the hicaliber gang. They try so hard to swat you away and you always return with an unexpected but well deserved sting. Ciao, lmao.
They are so easily triggered it’s ridiculous.
#saytheirnames
#iamshedrow
Thank you Shed for not backing down to She Who Shall Not Be Named (Margaret) and PF’s demands that they are not to be spoken of again. I don’t know much of PF, nor do I know her personally, but reading her comments on TC’s post the other day, I was actually embarrassed FOR her. I am hoping for her sake she was drunk because I have never met anybody with a clear mind act like that.
Seems in her opinion, we are all just jealous, LOL. Jealous of what exactly? Does she really believe she is the only one that is actually busy helping horses? I’m sure plenty of us on this very blog do the very same, myself included, we just don’t take every opportunity (if at all) to mention it and gloat, looking for accolades. Good deeds should be done with intention, not for attention.
Amen to that. I’m not concerned what either of those two thing or do. I will stay the course and carry on. I don’t know why she thinks everybody wants to be a journalist either especially one that hangs off the rail and reports the morning works. Big deal. Maybe if she wrote for the Rolling Stone or Vanity Fair I’d think that was awesome, but I’m not really the jealous type. I’m the happy with my own life type.
#HisnamewasThomas
#saytheirnames
#iamshedrow
#hernamewasJoplin
#saytheirnames
#nomoremissinghorses
#saytheirnames
Thanks for this new edition. So sad that so many just disappear and slip through the cracks.
It’s a damn shame. If you ask politely about a horse you have a soft spot for and they don’t want to answer, you are ignored. If you ask again, still politely, you are banned because obviously you must be a “hater”. WTF? Most rescues would be glad to share this information unless they had something to hide.
That is so true because Manson is hiding plenty.
As for you Ms. Romney, I just want to say, you didn’t corner the market on loss. We have all experience it in our lives. You can’t live without knowing what it feels like. So your comment regarding, few that truly understand is pure BULLSHIT! We understand completely but we didn’t abuse horses in the process. What you do in the name of money is just sickening. You can sit back all you want and say I didn’t pull the trigger in those horses faces but you knew it was being pulled and you did nothing! You are just as bad as Manson. If it was really horses first always as you claim you would stand up for those horses. You know they have not been seen by a real vet before they get the bullet. Horses first always makes me want to punch you in the face! If that was the case why don’t you give them some water or clean some stalls while your in town. You are making a handsome living off their backs since you also don’t have a job and live in the OC. Your all in it for the money. There is no horses first for any of you associated with this feedlot. Your all making money off the horse’s pain. For all of you that agree with this feedlot, they say ” Karmas a bitch then you die”. Maybe it’s time to reassess your life Romney! Your buddy Manson I believe is a lost cause. By the way Romney, yes please leave the horse’s would appreciate it and so would we. Find another scam to make a living off of. We all can see you don’t really like animals all that much anyway. It truly shows on your live feeds. Who the hell runs and screams because of a goat? Just go away and never come back!
4Horses~ Nicely said!
They still haven’t realized that the more they hide the more I’m going to dig. They know how to shut me up and make me go away. The power is there. Get transparent. Tell the truth. Show where the money goes. Pretty easy.
I don’t understand why animal control isn’t involved? Disappearing horses murdered horses starving abused and neglected horses? Why isn’t AC doing their job? Or humane society or SPCA? I had my own suspicions just from reading their posts before I stumbled on your blog. Where are these Agencies!?
Very low standard to please AC sadly and they have an AC officer on their BOD.
if you complain to AC, they say Michelle was a former officer and it would be a conflict of interest for them to investigate and refer you to the Humane Society. Conveniently, that is where Kat works, who is on their BOD.
SDHS indicated that they would likely refer any investigations into HC to a different organization in the future (presumably not back to SD County) because of the conflict of interest. So if someone here has information they believe warrants a complaint I would be sure to inisist that both SDHS and San Diego County reach out to a neutral party, or at least make some clear attempt to avoid a conflict of interest.
How about Kat does her freakin job or lose her job? The fact that she is on the BOD would make me question her effectiveness as an AC officer.
I think Kat needs a little looking into.
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There is just something squirrelly going on about Kat and Dan. What is the conflict of interest with Officer De Souza if Michelle hasn’t worked there in years? Especially after Michelle tried to get disability and was denied? Why hasn’t the humane society taken note of Kats association with a rescue that has been reported several times?
Its not a secret that sometimes bad people get put into a position with a little power and abuse it. I’ve read in the past about the humane society euthanizing adoptable animals and their own volunteers reporting it to higher powers. So I’m thinking they aren’t willing to eat any more crow or the people finding those skeletons in the closet.
I honestly don’t know what the inner workings of that agency is. I do know that with any animal control, the bar is set pretty low as far as what is acceptable care. That’s not unique to HiCaliber. They seem to rather turn a blind eye than to do something. I don’t know why that is.
I do feel very bad for the people working in the shelters and the field. You can’t save them all and that’s a miserable shame.
So sad. It makes me ill that they just throw away all these horses.
Their long-winded posts are sickeningly theatrical and filled with total bullshit. Oh how Manson’s stone cold, black heart aches for the poor horses after she looks into their eyes. She’s probably imagining shooting them between those eyes while she’s gazing at them. And RFB needs to get a new song to sing. We know all the words to the current one and it’s getting very, very old. Go ahead and try to distance yourself, move along Romney Baye Faker. You are going down anyway.
… dammit, forgot to check notify.
Pardon my asking, but what happened with firetyme? I had a health crisis and missed out on a chunk of updates.
Apparently, he’s doing ok. No idea why they never update or he’s not part of their adoption events.
They don’t seem to want to adopt out any of the horses that actually have multiple home offers…
I think they try to get potential adopters in a bidding war in some instances or at least one that I know of. It didn’t really work out.
Thanks!
Cuz Michelle’s is ‘nobody’s bitch’ that’s why. She’s just being cunty about Firetyme…..and Dragon…… Don” the actual Villagers ask about these horses FFS?
They have been trained not to ask after horses unless she tells them it’s ok to ask after horses.
Appears to be the same old bait and switch. They keep certain horses as bait to draw in adopters and then switch the adopter to a different horse once the adopter arrives.
Something was interesting to me… #HiCaliberRyland, video says they apparently couldn’t age because he was anxious or whatever and they didn’t want to bug him? Uhhh didn’t they have him on the ground sedated?! Can’t make it much simpler to look at his teeth!
They damn near killed him by the looks of it. He was still shocky looking in his video. Could they not have waited until he was stabilized and looking like he was about to drop to shoot a video?
Yeah. He still looked very drugged in the video they posted.
Does anyone know what happened to the horse Michelle got bucked off of?
Barrett is her personal horse that she probably hasn’t touched in months.. He’s still around from what I’ve heard.
Still there. Standing in his tiny pen.
Probably afraid to get back on him
for sure is. I’m sure he’ll be drugged to the point of staggering if she ever gets on him again. She’s claiming she’s not `cleared’ to ride yet but has been in how many parades since?
Yeah on that last parade video she went on about how she was “still recovering from her broken back”… yeah, ok.
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I read this with morning coffee and pondered it all during morning chores. I’d like to play devil’s advocate for a minute.
Let’s take Stacey. A good example here since M runs the place like a kill shelter. I can see her saying..”hey, we gave the horse a chance. Would it have been better to leave her to die of thirst and starve to death”?
So the point isn’t really that the horse was possibly euthanized, right?
To be legit and transparent and act as if she gives 2 cents about these horses, all she would have to do is show a diagnosis and prognosis. Have a real vet do that WITH THE DAMNED DONATIONS! Every horse that is a candidate for euthanasia deserves this and so do the donors! No vet should be responsible to recommend euthanasia (unless an animal is clearly suffering and an owner is in denial or being delusional about it).
If M is a tough as she claims and is doing the RIGHT thing in her own head by running the place like a kill shelter, then she shouldn’t be afraid to stand up for that. Quit trying to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes and act like you aren’t plugging horses that are going to take up space and funds for horses that move. Oops, I mean inventory that will move. Just change the mission statement and explain this shit to the donors.
The fluff of “telling their stories” and giving them names only goes as far as bringing in the initial donations.
At least at a kill shelter animals are fed, watered and receive the proper medical care they need. Much smaller rescues have paid employees, why can’t they hire a couple of people to at least feed, clean and water? Oh, all shelters also have shade and shelter from the elements for their stay. FFS, just the money saved on euthanasias since they use a bullet could be used to hire help and to buy shelters.
People also don’t realize that many vets could give 2 shits about “rescue” horses and don’t believe investing time and money into some of these cases is rational. But, that’s what REAL rescue is about. To not even give a horse a chance after getting the donors hopes up, as well as maybe even the horses hopes themselves, is plain wrong.
In over half of the videos, M has to ask what the horse’s name is. I find this disturbing.
Just give them numbers Michelle. Keep calling them inventory and quit calling what you do rescue. It’s HORSE CONTROL. You are the God that gets to decide their fate. You are the judge and executioner. Quit pretending that your board has anything to do with your decisions about life and death. There is no board to speak of when it comes to “the kill” and that decision. You are also the vet making the diagnosis and prognosis.
Why don’t you start another Facebook page to honor the names and lives of the horses you judged and executed instead of trolling the internet all day looking for fights? You could show the vet report, explain your decision and be done. You could let donors know they crossed the bridge and thank them for their contributions. Oh wait, that’s right, there are usually no vet reports.
Responsible rescue my ass!
#saytheirnames
What we’ve been saying for months. They could shut all the haters down if they showed invoices, diagnostics and receipts.
Instead, they pick fights on Facebook. Seems as though they have no evidence to refute our accusations.
There new tactic is to bully all the people that speak out or question them on other pages buy screen shotting what they say and mocking them. Try to shame them into silence since they can’t ban and delete them. It’s not working. I can’t quite figure out why they won’t come correct either. Just show the damn invoices and diagnostics. Why is that so difficult?
They don’t have them?
I saw one of my comments repeated on their “poop” page. They had not much to say. Who cares what they have to say – really.
Except be accountable. Simple.
Enough milk carton horses to fill a truck and then some. So many HiC horses have simply disappeared. Especially around the end of the year. 2014/2015; 2015/2016.
Tried multiple times but could never follow last post. So hope it works with this one!
Same problem w/ the last post myself. It’s working on this one though.
Good lord this is sad. I just scrolled through their page for the first time in a while, Manson defending their “bio-security” is hilarious. Today is the 15th, I wonder if their numbers are down enough.
Also went through Fice’s page because I’m a masochist. Hey dipshit, could you please learn to spell “breezy” if you’re going to use it all the time. Also, and this is equally concerning to me, maybe take some lessons from people who know what they’re doing. “I can’t afford it” is a shit excuse and you shouldn’t be a trainer if you can’t further your education. Just go fucking audit if you can’t pay to ride. Those poor mustangs are going to have about the worst foundation possible because BLM let a shirtless, mouthbreathing, moron adopt them.
The only way the code stuff is going to work is if the county get off their ass and do surprise inspection. Manson had a heads up last time and shipped a bunch of horses off property for the day.
Yeah, Fice’s page scares me. I am not sure I want to see the poor horse that destroyed those panels and that mustang is going to kill him if he continues to try to slap it on its ass as it runs by. Then you have him making the horses eat off his nasty body. 2 weeks in and most real trainers would be much further along than him.
I saw the panel and kept scrolling waiting to see horrifying wounds or a dead horse. He is fucking lucky that the mustang didn’t stomp his brains out with the hay thing. I think real mustang trainers would at least have a halter on and probably be sacking them out at this point, some of the “name brand” trainers would probably already be riding. Too bad fuckface is so clueless, and seemingly has a core group of supporters. I wish they would get a clue and stop encouraging him.
Birds of a feather and all.
Omg what, I think I need to vomit after reading this….horses eating off his body what…his is one sick fuck!
LOL.
So true!
I apologize if this has been asked recently. But what ended up happening to those horses that were surrender with with a large donation? The elderly family member had passed away so they surrendered the horses to HC? I believe the granddaughter had posted here previously expressing her dissatisfaction with HC’s handling of the horses.
The Appy’s or the Paso’s?
I’m thinking it was the appys.
They went back to the family
minus the one that was put to sleep
That’s great news ! I wonder if any of the money they donated for their care was refunded ?
I doubt it somehow. Breezy just about died and they had corrective shoes put on the mares. I’m sure the claimed they burned through that cash fairly quick. I don’t know for sure though. I think the family has probably been through enough and are glad to have what’s left of their horses back.
Money refunded?
Haha
Ahahahahaha
Ahahahahahahahaha
Did Breezy go back home as well? Or are they still hiding him with FireTyme?
He’s gone home
Oh good!!!
35 horses placed with the sho n go….. 24+ intakes within the last month….. face palm.
They were not all SNG horses. Some were adopted out before. I have a list. Even so, did they really do home visits on that many places? Do they ever do follow up visits? I’m guessing not.
Michelle on her high priced “inventory”:
And in being honest, that’s the incentive of of the dollar menu… The adopters can get a dollar menu horse, train it and rehome it (with the paperwork following of course). The reality is most horses we put way more money into than what we get back… When an occasion pops up we can come out on top? I’m a smart business woman and take the opportunity.”
All she seems to concentrate on is making money and yet this the rescue that begs for donations for EVERYTHING from purchase price (plus “responsible rescue”) to the maintenaince work that the “RR” was supposed to cover and every single extra vet bill they incur. Why even donate to the Secret Fund if its not being used as it wad intended?
Allll this money they raise.. and yet they owe a hay provider thousands and apparently owe money to the previous vet. She’s as good as “business woman” as she is at “rescuing”.
The longer you have a horse on your feed bill the less profit you make. Simple math and she gets herself upside down on most of them because she holds them back for `training’ and they basically eat up any profit she could make. There is nobody left there that can put proper training on a horse to the point of increasing its value. Her stupid hang up with bits is helpful either since most people choose not to ride around in ill fitting rope halters nor can you go in the show ring with those. Prime example is that little registered Paint mare Rosie. She was in near show condition when they bought her and now she’s been there for several months, looks like a mustang and I can only imagine what she’s gotten away with. Oh wait, they can ride her in a sumo suit. THAT must make her worth 10k. Please…
I just cannot comprehend how they fundraise on social media for Everything and yet the obligations they are raising this money for don’t get met. There is some serious double dipping happening between “responsible rescue”, hay & hoof, and fundraising for expenses that they claim the “responsible rescue” amount is supposed to cover. The Secret Fund is promoted and yet when a horse needs even minor vet care they ask their village to pay instead of using the fund specifically for those cases.
There are numerous cases of fundraising $1,000s for particularly pitiful Tuesday auction saves.. Very little is spent on some of them and yet if they are some of the lucky few that find homes with another rescue those funds never follow the horses they were donated to! Well, HC did send $50 (for vet care) with one horse that ended up with them but the money was,returned because FHR already had the expense covered.
Their donors don’t seem to care this is happening. If they aren’t spending the funds for the intended purposes then What are they spending it on? I know people joke about lashes and botox but if they truly were on the up and up they would have no problem posting and monthly statement covering how much was brought in and how it was distributed. Donors have the right to know how a rescue is using the money they donate.
This money is going somewhere other than these horses. Intentional or not it needs to be corrected.
Trust me it won’t ever be shown where the money is going. Have you seen Manson face lately? We are not joking the money is going to her face because as Manson says you should not stop looking good because you run a feedlot. None of the people that live on the feedlot have jobs besides Becky they are all living off the rescue funds including Ms. Romney. As Manson always says she’s not your bitch so she doesn’t have to tell you how the money is being spent.
FHR didn’t take a HiCaliber horse. They got that horse all on their own and Manson sent them $50 to be ignorant. That wasn’t even close to a situation of the funds follow the horse.
We also aren’t joking about lashes, botox and chiclet teeth. Look at any picture of Manson that is 3 years ago and older and you can where some of the money has gone.
Ok, devil’s advocate here for a moment.
In the case of owner relinquishments, I’ve got a friend with a rescue–many, actually, but the one of which I am currently thinking probably receives at least 5-6 phone calls a WEEK asking her to take in owner relinquishments, and I am sure it is the same all over. She is small, and responsible, and works almost exclusively with law enforcement (and still stays full without going to auction, imagine that!) and horses in need. She gets cussed out, sworn at, vilified on Facebook, and her credentials as a rescue, but she stays the course (thank God). Some have offers of funding, but she stays the course and is damned good at what she does. Michelle, on the other hand is a money hungry beast, so she is going to seize the chance at money and get rid of the horses as soon as possible, which eliminates her having to shell out any of the money that came with them towards their care. Hopefully, some people DID stipulate the terms, and are willing to discuss their experience.
In the case of visiting the Poop page, I have to say–why bother going over there to see what they say? For every person who visits, whether they “like,” anything on the Facebook page or not, FB sends the page administrator a message and tells how many new views they have received, which simply bolsters the ego of the village idiot duo and keeps them going.
If no one visits, the Page itself would simply languish on with them continuing to talk to themselves. Which is fine, because it appears to me that they are in their own reality anyway. To each his own, I guess.
#riptotheoneswhodidn’tdeservethisfate
#saveothersfromgoingthere
#sendmylawyeryourlawyerinfoandtheycandolunch
Good points
Taking your advice D, as much fun as it was to point and laugh I won’t go back.
I find them annoyingly ignorant. That Margaret is a real treat. I’ve seen her post about not supporting Hikill and then turn around and do everything but kiss their asses on that page. Issues she has…..
Thanks for the info on views on their page. I won’t be going back to it EVER. It just pissed me off anyway because they do what they say they’re not doing.
I looked a few times, had a good laugh at their stupidity but I don’t bother with their stupid Jr High antics. My family, animals & friends are way more important than looking to see what they said or if I’ve ever been mentioned.
I did somehow get invited to Fice’s stupid page, removed myself & blocked the moron.
I’m glad, guys. I’ve got a community page on Facebook, and it notifies me of absolutely everything. New views, views by people who already belong to the page, you name it, so I know that for every “new” view, the idiot duo are chortling and rubbing their hands with glee and feeling validated with every new post they make. So take away their validation, and you’re left with two people talking to themselves.
Or you can look at it this way, every time they screen shot something and post it, it’s a barometer on what gets under their skin. If they have to take the time to try and dispell something there must be some truth to it.
Let them cackle like a bunch of witches stirring around a cauldron, who cares. The Village ass kissing idiots who patronize them don’t realize that they don’t give a shit about them and they are only one misstep away from being the next Village Twat.
Lmao ! Village twat.
I think Jill Breen and Denise Tracy will reign as Village Twats for the foreseeable future.
Denise Tracy is Queen of The Twats!!!🤣🤣🤣
@Brenda, I’m sure Jesus is super proud of Denise Tracy /endsarcasm
He probably is. I’m sure she dutifully copy and pasted all the Jesus posts and did her 1 hour church time today. That means she can be a raging twat the rest of the week.
I have met many like her unfortunately. One hour in church, quote a few Bible verses and act holier than thou while at the same time bullying, insulting and spewing negativity. Another one of those Faux Christians that fool nobody, except maybe themselves.
TERESA COOK, thank you for the shoutouts on 2 of your posts. I really must be getting to you…….
Being lumped in with Denise Tracy is actually a huge compliment. I get that this blog makes you feel powerful, but how about you stop hiding behind your blog calling people you’ve never met names and let’s have an in person meeting?? You name the time and place and we can hash this out. Bring your “proof” and your big girl words, and try to refrain from name calling. You live about 2 1/2 hours from me so I’d appreciate if we could meet halfway….if not I’ll drive to Valley Center, and you can pick a place near your house. This is a serious invitation. If you are telling the truth and have nothing to hide then you shouldn’t have a problem meeting with me.
Don’t go off on a rant and makeup excuses not to meet by saying I could be crazy or dangerous. I’ve never done or said anything that should give you that impression. If anyone should be concerned about safety, it’s me. I would be meeting with someone who has attacked people in the harshest most disgusting ways, for no reason, all while hiding.
Jilly, you stupid dillhole, I’m not Teresa Cook. Your bullying of that woman is disgusting and trust me, if I was her, I would admit to being her. I don’t need to make up a single excuse not to meet you other than I am not Teresa and also I have no desire to meet you. Are you sure you can manage to leave your house and tear yourself away from social media long enough either? I welcome anybody to comment on this blog other than people that are only here to pick fights, which it appears is your mission here. Go back to parking yourself up Michelle’s ass and leave the big kids alone now. Buy bye!
Such a benign invitation? How about you go to your local sheriff’s department and ask to sit in their chief’s office to send your little taunting threat?
I don’t know who you are Jilly (is that to ryhme with willy nilly?) but you bug me.
You don’t argue why horses are bought with monies promised to their care and don’t get it, why owner relinquished horses die without vet authorization, why HiC does business with THL and on and on – but you have the gall to bring historonics and threats to a person many of us have known for years as a real truth finder, a solid citizen, a law abiding and trusted friend?
How dare you?
Did you at least bring some receipts to prove costs claimed by HiC? Because otherwise, you have just wasted all our time.
But they named a horse after her, so that makes it all OK and earns Jilly’s blind devotion forever and ever.
Oh that is where that name came from. I remember Manson posting as she and “Jilly” entered the kids’ playground that it was her playground and her rules. I wished that a cop had seen her riding through there.
Naming a horse after such a horehound is such an insult to the horse. Horses are congenial, forgiving amd yes, kind.
Just shows us again that HiCaliber does not know horses or wants to care for them – for HiCaliber, it is apparently all about the control and I am talking about the decision by HiCaliber to NOT do what they say they are all about. That control.
Public needs to control their money.
Oh yuck, maybe there is 2 horses named after her then because there is also that Arab named Breen. Horrible name to hang on such a pretty mare.
Ugh, please don’t even give Jill Breen any more of the attention she seems to crave so desperately…
Shed, is the auto waterer pictured above one at HiKill’s feedlot? As having clean or even any water available isn’t a priority, I wouldn’t be surprised.
No, the one on the blog was the `unacceptable’ water that Chris and Stacey had to be rescued from. I just found that ironic considering how often HiCaliber horses go without any at all.
It didn’t meet their high standards, LOL? That’s hilarious.
Exactly!
I may have made a huge mistake, in fact I think I properly shat the bed. I contacted PETA and put them in on the Fice page and of course threw them HiCal’s way. I can take no more. I have seen what PETA is capable of. Maybe they will do something or maybe they will not. Me personally, my job is making me rabid for justice of some sort. Or to at least cuss someone out but I do not have that luxury. I will await with baited breath to see what occurs with PETA. I typically do not support them but in this instance, if they did something, yeah I would chuck what I can afford their way.
PETA can often suck the credibility out of a movement, sadly.
I recently read that PETA often works similar to a kill shelter itself.
Jason Vorhees~ I think another person reported to PETA too. I don’t know what you do for a living but when I was young and a very poor single Mom, I needed public assistance. All I can say is “it takes all kinds” and can see maybe where your frustrations come from.
“in fact I think I properly shat the bed” LOVE this line! Been there done that!
Don’t get me started on PETA absolutely hate that organisation.
MartyUK, so do I. Sadly, I used to donate to PETA, I was so misinformed as to their practices. In the state of Virginia, all shelters are required to report the amount of animals they take in. The Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services reported that PETA euthanized 71.9% of all animals they received in 2016. That percentage of euthanization is the lowest rate since 1999.
The woman in charge of PETA seems kinda nuts. I don’t remember exactly what I read but I thought yikes!
The watching and waiting for HiCaliber to get shutdown is very hard. I get frustrated all the time and I cry sometimes and sometimes it just pisses me off badly.
Amen sister! Beyond frustrated!!!
How is it that Jill Breen’s lawyer told her to save all of her screen shots for her supposed defamation/libel suit yet she continues to post mean girl stuff and antagonize the situation? Doesn’t make much sense and only negates her claim. No lawyer would be like “Oh yeah, you got a claim and in the interim keep posting on Facebook and fan the flames – Wtf? Some of her comments are just rank and foul. Pretty sure any case of hers would be dismissed once her own actions were presented.
She isn’t the sharpest stick in the bag is she?
Clearly her elevator doesn’t run all the way to the top. I don’t understand how she has time to sit on time scouring all social media, all day, every day. I’m not the least bit worried about any of them. Nothing but a bunch of monkeys flinging their own turds around. Seriously, ignore them.
Now that Cotton has kinda been accounted for, but who really knows because HiKilloligists feel like they don’t really have to disclose anything about where your donations goes. They are appalled that anyone would dare to even ask.
How surprising!
Angrid, “Have the Horror Girls ever stopped to wonder why we don’t provide info on some private adoptions?”
💩, “Apparently not. They seem to think everything HC does is public information.”
After all this time and discussion they still don’t get it Apparently Not.
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Right 😁
LOL, totally. Charity Navigator sounds kind of like a stripper name.
Oh, no!!! Hahaha! I will never hear that name without laughing now. 😀
Well, this blog isn’t associated with the `horror girls’ BUT, Cotton’s situation wasn’t exactly a private adoption. They fundraised for him. The village paid for him several times over and then they sold him out the back door without a contract days after the fact. It was only last week Manson went on this spiel about once horses arrive at the ranch they are no longer available for private buyers and people have to go through the adoptions process. I guess their rules on stuff like that are fluid, kinda like their morals and ethics.
Looks to me that a lot of private ‘adoptions’ appear to end up in similar places to HiCillery pipe corrals with no shelter what so ever.
Perhaps lack of shelter from the elements, is an adoption criteria?
I agree with this if, by fluid, you mean non-existent. No morals, no ethics. Nasty evil bitches.
If I sit back and look at all that is wrong with HiCal I can honestly say the biggest red flag is the deletion of horses on their FB page. I have been with a rescue for almost 5 yrs and NEVER EVER has a post been deleted. It baffles the mind how people can defend this. Defend all the other stuff but this……No!!!
Most rescues have a Rainbow Bridge or Memorial section on their websites and or FB pages for the ones they lost. HiCal just prefers to pretend they never existed.
They have or had one that a volunteer started on the private page. I had wondered at the time about the compassion pulls, the debilitating issues that had absolutely no hope, the cancer, the neuro’s. I know often horses and at auction for a reason but seriously what are the odds of so many of these repeat conditions. It’s like a cartoon character screaming off with their heads and then getting a standing ovation for her humanatarian works.
It would have to be an entire separate webpage to hold all the names of the horses they “rescued”. Manson is just vile.
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So now Amanda is going to give riding lessons to the tune of $75 at HiCaliber and donate 10% back to HC. There are obvious issues with this but my question has to do with the non-profit side. If she uses their horses/facility isn’t she profiting from a “non-profit”? If she gets interest that will add up fast. I know “A” circuit trainers who don’t charge such an insane fee.
$55 for group
$75 for individual lessons
😐
I guess learning to ride poorly is spendy!
It goes against their non-profit status, yes.
Awww… but being ‘classically trained’ in starfish equitation is highly coveted.
By Patrick the starfish. $$$
Did you know starfish do not have brains?
Yes; it’s true.
LOL!!!! I might sign up for the unintentional counter canter. That might be fun.
you woman have to be the cruelest, meanest species ive ever seen.The way you attack Denise is unforgivable. I dont want to hear what you have to bitch and scream about Hical.This has gone to a whole new level. Dont you have something better to do with your time? Shame on you. Must give you some sort of sick pleasure to beat people down. Just disgusting. Im not hiding behind a name. Im the pres of fhrs birth mother.I notice you comment here Trish. shame on you for being in on this. You better check yourself. Disgusting.
You’re Trish’s mom? You’re batshit crazy yourself. Go away. What sort of mother does and says the things you do? You shoudl be ashamed of yourself.
You should check yourself; you have been fooled. Your daughter is an amazing brave woman – and far better than anything HiCaliber could ever achieve. Don’t degrade the name of mother by speaking against a good woman.
AMEN
Poor Trish. I now respect her even more. Wow.
She uses Michelle’s hate pages as her own private platform. She is under the impression that this is all some sort of conspiracy to oust HiCal so that FHR can be the biggest rescue in So Cal. She also takes every opportunity to turn anyone’s comment into a spiteful remark about her daughter. I know it is probably super hard for her to comprehend that all this is not about Trish and not all commenters are followers of FHR. Delusion at it’s finest. I think they let her post out of pure pity and to make it appear the have followers.
She seems unbalanced. I also do not understand what FHR has to do with any of this. They could be the 2nd worst rescue in SoCal and it won’t change the shit that is going on with HiCaliber. It’s nothing but deflection on their part. FHR has nothing to do with this blog. There are a bunch of SoCal rescues and pretty much all of them put HiCal to shame, so why focus in on just one? If anything Mommy Dearest’s attacks on her daughter make me admire FHR and what they do more. How tough must Trish be to rise above a parent like that?
Unbalanced is a very kind word lol
Please. You have absolutely no credibility. You might’ve done better anonymous. I have a major problem with fake Christians. They piss me the fuck off. So yeah, I will say what I like about Denise. Jesus is sooooo PROUD of her.
Your to funny Tbell , we are cruel, we don’t shoot horses in the face without being given a proper diagnoses from a real vet! My you should check yourself! I don’t go around abusing horses to turn a buck. Thank you very much!!!!
TBell, you’re a disgusting human being.
Funny how a “mother” who knows what Hicaliber has put her own flesh and blood through would intentionally side with those who she knows have done nothing but hurt her child. Hate from Michelle to Trish is one thing. But to purposely align yourself with the very people who have hurt your child, speaks volumes of your character. YOU come here and pull your own kid into this. What kind of demonic possessed person does that?! And Denise, if you are reading this, knowing what you have endured as a child, knowing that no child should ever go through what you went through, you support a mother who has done far worse and allowed a life of abuse for her own children, you side with that? I am beyond disgusted. This blog has absolutely nothing to do with Trish or FHR. Yet here you are aligning yourself with Hicaliber and bringing your own child into things that has nothing to do with her. You have not seen her or your own grandchildren in how many years? Christmas’s Birthdays graduations….not a phone call or even a card for your own grandchildren. You pit your own daughters against eachother. You are not sick nor mentally ill. You do not get that excuse. You are straight up evil. I will pray for your soul. And how sad that any person has to have a mother as hateful and abusive as you. I will never understand nor grasp what you have done to your own family. Your evil radiates through your words. There is no excuse for what you have done and continue to do to your own children and grandchildren. If my daughter grows up to be half the woman Trish is, I will radiate with pride and be grateful to God. You play no part in who she is and who she has become. The only thing you did was give her an example of how to be better, how to do better. And boy did she ever. You nor your husband get an ounce of credit for that. So in your own words, I will have to agree with what you said on the hate page…”I am the recipient mare to the pres of FHR” except unlike recipient mares you were no thrown away, she was. How many lives both animal and people have her to thank for the person she has become. May you one day realize the beautiful person you threw away was truly a treasure to all who knew her. This response will be signed with my name because I am proud to call her a friend, a sister and someone who has helped me more times than I can count.
What kind of a mother calls herself a “recipient mare”? That’s one of the coldest and cruelest statements I’ve ever heard. Your poor child.
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The F*&kboi “… name didn’t last very long when they found out there was a family that had unexpectedly lost their son/father/husband and they wanted to make a donation.”
I saw this when you first posted it and wonder where the heck you get your information? Just making crap up? I am part of that family and there was never a donation made to ensure a horse was named for my nephew. I despise that you even mention his name in your disgusting blog. In the year or so after Chris had a horse named after him, his mother and I have made small donations to HiCaliber, also in Chris’ name. We didn’t pay to have him named!
It makes me wonder how much of this other crap you have made up? Possibly ALL of it!
Now that you have taken down HiCaliber, I hope you crawl back under that rock you came from.
You can believe me when I say that I will not be returning to this horrible site, so feel free to make as many more lies as you can. I wouldn’t want to contribute to the $2.00 a day you make from people clicking your link.
I am truly confused….huh?
Actually, the blog is not monetized, so no one makes money off of clicking links, just to clarify.
There has been nothing made up on this blog–it is backed up with photos, and documentation of most everything. I am not certain of the rest of what you are talking about. Perhaps Shed can explain.
Well Judy, you should do your due diligence because the horse named after your loved one was originally named Fuckboi and his name was hastily changed with your donation. Emmy was named after they got your money too. I’m quite happy to send you the screenshot where they made this statement:
“Help! We can’t decide what breed this horse is. His name is Chris (formerly Fuckboi, Michelle and Taylor were vetoed…but after hearing the story of Chris, we don’t blame them). He was an owner relinquished stud we fundraised for on Monday. We didn’t know at the time he was a stallion. Surprise!”
BTW your reading comprehension sucks. I never stated that you paid to have him named but that they named him when you donated. Big difference. Where did I get my information? Straight from HiCaliber. Go back to the day they did Chris’s intake and you will find the above quote.
As far as what I make for this blog? Not a single penny. I have directed any offers of generosity to other rescues. We on this blog are in it for the horses. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to know a bad rescue when you see one. Having said that I am sorry for you loss. I’m even sorrier you tarnished his memory by supporting a place that exploits, neglect sand tortures animals.
Ok I get it now. Very well said Shed.
Here’s another quote for you, Judy. Again, most happy to send the screen shots.
“**CHRIS is the 14hh fleabitten grey stud (surprise!) that came in with Stacey (we called him Fuckboi at first, because he was trying to mount everyone. No disrespect meant to the man Chris that Chris was named after 💙). He was gelded today (bye bye little tiny testicles) and he didn’t show any lameness we could see. Chris’ balls were given to a research study to help one of the world’s most endangered animals. Cool, huh?”
Thank you Shed. I saw this and had to backtrack to find the original post. The words she says you made up on the blog came straight from Hi Cal’s post that day. This woman is off her rocker. Maybe her reading comprehension needs improving or maybe she should have simply read the blog as written. It’s all there in black and white on Hi Cal’s posts. Confusion ended.