I hate Tuesdays. There, I said it. I know I said I didn’t like Tuesdays last week but I actually hate them with the white-hot passion of a thousand burning suns and then some. I mostly hate them due to the anxiety I get over the shit show going down at Ontario Livestock Auction each week and the fact that I find myself hoping the kill buyer gets the horses rather than HiCaliber. I don’t expect this Tuesday will be much different and that’s totally messed up. It seems that only the cons they run change but rarely the result and today will be no different. I try to give people a little something to think about each week, although I realize the majority of the village idiots are a write-off at this point. Still there is a groundswell of advocacy happening and I think reminders of why we chose this hill to die on are appropriate. I gotta warn people that parts of this post are extremely graphic and may be very upsetting. I’ll put another warning and break in before we get to those parts though. Today might be a great day to self medicate along with your beverage of choice. Just sayin. Ready?
Does anybody remember Emerson? She was a parking lot purchase from auction back on September 19th. Don’t worry, she’s still alive as far as I know. The bottom pictures are from her intake that Manson did on the 21st. I’m sure many of you will remember the weight tape on the belly thing. That was yet another eye roller moment for many of us. Anyhow, during one of her rare trips around the feed lot the other day, (Oct 12th), Manson decided to update us on Emerson. That’s where the top two pictures are from. Manson even went so far to remark about her weight gain on that live feed. I actually went and had my eyes checked right afterwards because surely she isn’t that stupid, is she? In what alternate reality does this look like any weight gain let alone `lots’? Manson even went as far as to say Emerson had `put on lots of weight’ and was `getting quite chubby’ before qualifying that even though she is still quite skinny, she’s no longer a skeleton. Ummm, yes, yes she is still a skeleton which means that Manson is pulling numbers out of her as yet again when she says she is at BCS3. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate the updates, but let’s not tell people they aren’t seeing what they’re seeing and FFS if she’s going to google something, why can’t she read the entire article or have somebody that has reading comprehension break it down for her?
The above pics and screen shots are all from last week in the inner sanctum. I’m kinda curious why, with so many people living for free on the property, they have ONE volunteer trying to feed on their own. How is that even possible and how does that happen? You would think, given the free rent and subsidies they all enjoy, that they could ensure that at least one resident is present for every feeding, but I guess none of them put horses first there. The water pics are the sludge that was left after draining a trough and there is no excuse for that shit either. It’s neither expensive or complicated to get some food grade hydrogen peroxide and dump it in the trough. That doesn’t mean they still won’t need to clean the troughs, but it will drastically cut down on the sludge, slime and general grossness that they seem to have going on at all times. Water is the most basic and important need that any of us have. Why can’t they get this through their skulls? You certainly don’t ever seen Manson’s swimming pool anything but sparkling. Don’t even get me started on the ever-growing shit mountain that will soon require high altitude gear in order for people to scale it at the rate it’s growing. God help me, I just can’t even with these people anymore.
Once again, Amanduh was the source of unintentional comic relief. I feel she’s in the running for biggest gunsel along with Manson and Fice. This intake video featured Amanduh with a very obviously drugged up Wilbourn telling us about his `front knee’ and how lame he is as he staggers forward with his bottom lip dragging along with his `Wilbourness’. I guess I might not look too sound either in that condition. Then, because she has the intellect of a rather dull carrot, Rene further embellishes things by telling us that Wilbourn is a non-gaited Walker in her original write up to go with the video. I guess Rene is so used to fucking up, she willingly took the blame for the `front knee’ remark, even though it originated with Amanduh, and promptly lied about why she put that in the intro. They did edit the post, but Facebook has this super handy function that lets you see edits and, the fact is, these ladies don’t realize how stupid they are so the posts stay up as is until they get called out. Good times!
I realize this is nitpicking, but it irritates me just the same. How do you `run low’ on stud chains? Seriously. It’s not like they expire or wear out. I’ve got some in my tack room that are 20 years old or more. Mind you, I don’t use them to hang buckets because that’s kinda dumb, and I also tend to put things away and take care of them rather than drop them after my ass because I know I can just hop online and beg for more. In the past Manson has stated they hang feed buckets from them and that’s evident in many of their videos. It’s also kinda unsafe which is why she probably revised their `official’ use to medical buckets. There are actual portable bucket hangers that are safe that I posted examples of above. I have the same issue with them requesting scissors. Why do they keep needing them? While we’re at it, do they not have an operating budget at all? Who begs for duct tape and basic first aid equipment? The next thing you know they’ll be begging for ass wipe and tampons. Maybe they already have and my eyes just refused to see that. I’ll likely go blind from bleaching them soon anyhow.
Manson decided to do some test rides this week, so she selected a few crippled horses to subject to her abuse. First up was Telissa who was an auction purchase from last month. Telissa a large mare with an even larger knee. Because Manson normally rides pony sized horses, she kept remarking how big this mare is and how she feels small on her. I guess feeling and looking are different things because Manson didn’t look small on her. She also decided to turn her sharply on the forehand so that the poor mare was nearly falling down from pain and then declared `she’s sound at the trot’. As if carting Manson around wasn’t bad enough, poor Telissa got to have one of their volunteers digging her knees and boot heels into her bare back as she demonstrated yoga while everybody else guzzled margaritas and egged her on. Typical HiCaliber schtick where nobody ever gives the horse’s comfort, feelings or dignity a second thought as long as they are all amused. Manson even went as far as to brag about this mare not even being touched since they drug her home before that evening. From the looks of the poor thing, nobody has even bothered to comb the tangles out of her mane either.
Rowan was the next tribute to have to put up with packing Manson’s ass around. He’s also got a bad knee with the added handicap of being much, much smaller than Telissa. If he was sound before his `test ride’, he probably isn’t now and WTF with these stupid rope halters? I know Manson is all proud of them and it’s their `thing’ but I wonder if she realizes that knotted rope on the most sensitive part of a nose is far more cruel than a big fat snaffle in their mouth. I wonder if she even cares. Whack yourself in the nose cartilage with a knotted rope and see how good that feels, Manson and punch yourself in the throat while you’re at it. Back to the knee issue: I get that some big knees are more blemish than actual unsoundness, but wouldn’t the responsible thing to do be to x-ray them and have a real vet assess exactly what is wrong? Manson never bothers with things like that. I recall her saying about Torrey, whose past owner TOLD her she had fractured her knee, that she wouldn’t bother with x-rays until the horse showed she was lame and then we came out to find this past week that they had been riding her before she died. What a miserable existence that horse had right down the line from Satan and Doughboy’s feed lot to her sad end in California.
Manson spent a lot of time riding poor Jelly this week. It’s a bit disturbing how she describes him and gushes. This was the same horse she declared a `fuckhead’ and sent off to Fice not so long ago after he was an adoption return. I’m not sure if that was before or after he ripped Strategist’s face half off though. I also don’t consider it body shaming to point out she is too big to be riding him so much, if at all. This horse always looks uncomfortable with her. Every time she stops, she stretches out and braces like he has a sore back. Any empathetic rider would see or feel this the for themselves and get the hell off the horse. Still, she insists on riding him because she is too afraid of the many horses she owns to ride them herself. That is if they are even broke at all. She has branded Barrett a `douche’ even though she was crying over him in the hospital and needed a rag that smelled like his ass or something to comfort her. The fact is, she rarely goes near him these days nor does she go near Daisy, RyRy or Rizzo who are all at HiCaliber along with Dawson. Ahhh Dawson. Let’s talk about Dawson, shall we?
I realize the pictures are small in the above video clip. They aren’t important but the audio is. What we have is Manson telling two completely different stories about Dawson. I’m sure most will recall that Manson did, in fact, pick her out from a live feed and said she bought her for herself with money given to her by Youtuber, Shane Dawson. Apparently putting your young children on podcast and having them discuss anal, anal beads and egging them on to say shitty things about one of the baby daddies pays well. Who knew? However, when it came time to ship Dawson and her `bonded friend’, Tara, who was earmarked for Bang Bang Becky before she even left Louisiana, they all of a sudden became HiCaliber’s horses. That meant the donors got to pick up the tab to ship them to California, their vet work and their first few months upkeep while Manson and Bang Bang Becky decided whether or not they actually wanted them. Remember that Dawson and Tara got to be on the nice air ride while poor old Sully was wedged in a 4 horse stock trailer with 5 other donor paid for horses and driven non-stop across the country by Cheech in a heat wave. We already talked about Bang Bang Becky waiting until Tara’s founder issues and corrective shoeing were paid for by the village idiots before adopting her for $1. Even though Dawson is still listed as up for adoption on the web page, the fact is, she never has been available. The latest story is that she has always been Manson’s. What is more likely, is that now that Amanduh has put a few rides on her, Manson has decided to keep her after all and will likely breed her to something weird to create yet another horse she will never break to ride or even bother weaning. Manson is a classic hoarder.
One of the things Manson mentioned on live feed last week was that Bristol had taken the long nap under the blue tarp at some point. I suspect it was some time ago, but you never can tell with Manson. She hates calling the meat wagon for just one body, so maybe Bristol was killed to make up numbers at some point. That part isn’t as important as they why. Bristol was an auction purchase last year and named after a little girl that they met at auction and who actually rode the horse according to Manson. She was found to have cancer in one eye and had it removed on live feed by a real 100% vet. Apparently, she had a bad reaction to the ketamine and thrashed coming out of it, which cased her to injure herself, specifically her knees. At some point after her eye removal, Bristol went from being a fan favorite to falling completely off the village idiot radar. People stopped asking after her and the next we heard was that she had been `euthanized’ and the reason, as heard in the video clip above, was that her knees went `bone on bone’ and she couldn’t be kept comfortable. Of course, we don’t really know if that’s true of if she ever had xrays or had a real vet recommend euthanasia. I certainly don’t recall them begging for any money for diagnostics for her and considering they beg for duct tape, I can’t exactly envision Manson having a flash of compassion and paying it out of her eyelash fund. #RIP Bristol #sayhername
This brings us to the graphic part of the post. It’s not pretty and it’s not funny, but I think it’s relevant. People need to wake the hell up to what’s going on so I decided to post it. If you have delicate sensibilities, just scroll on by to the end.
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Casey, as he was found by morning feeders
Casey was made to walk from A to B before collapsing
I’m sure you can figure out that we’re going to talk about yet another horse dying. Well, we’ve talked about this horse before. He was Casey, one of the `Slaughter11′ who was previously infamous for collapsing in the trailer along with Lazarus. We actually talked about Casey’s death back in May , although we didn’t have all the pieces filled in yet. As bad as what we knew then was, what came across my desk this week was ever worse. The video is of his last few breaths more than 3 hours after he was found stuck under a fence and then made to walk all the way up to the barn for some unknown reason. More than 3 hours without a real vet coming to see him and more than 3 hours of suffering and struggling and that’s just the time we know about. Nobody really knows how long or why he was stuck under that fence. The conversation from the screen shots above is from somebody who was there and there is not point in hunting that person down to get at me because I’m not the person in blue. I don’t really know what else to say other than I’m so very sorry to Casey. This shouldn’t have ever happened. These people sing the praises of gun euthanasia all over the place, even when they fucking miss their mark and cause more suffering, but when the one emergency that comes up that NOBODY would have questioned using a gun and Bang Bang Becky bottles out and chooses to watch a horse thrash for 3 hours while she calls Manson for advice? What about a vet? They do these things called after hour farm calls when you have an emergency so horses don’t spend hours suffering and seizing to death. This is verging on criminal negligence. This has to stop. Yesterday. Rest easy, Casey. I’m sorry humans failed you at every turn. #sayhisname
Now that most of you are good and upset, I may as well keep that going by showing Manson’s compassion for the horse community. They can’t possibly break quarantine to bring in horses that are being displaced due to the fires, but that very same week they had room to drag a bunch home from auction again and I’m sure they’ll find room for however many more today. You know, people would much rather their horses burn to death than maybe get a snotty nose. Why am I even surprised? Manson sat back with her thumb up her ass making fun of other rescues and advocates doing what they could to help out in Texas after the hurricane hit. Pardon me, she made fun of everybody BUT Cheech who went charging out there too and had to beg for money to get home. Cheech is still in the good books so far, although most people that move on from Manson don’t stay there for very long. Maybe Manson feels she owes her one after throwing her under the bus with the drug thing awhile back. Oh well, the fires are good for algorithm bumps at least, right? Speaking of compassion, here is what Manson had to say about the Las Vegas tragedy as she ranted and begged for money right after.
I apologize that this has been another of these `heavy’ posts. I don’t have any fun memes to lighten things up today either. None of this stuff is feeling so funny lately and especially not what we covered today. A lot of you have taken the time to send nice messages or leave supportive comments lately and I truly appreciate that. We’re all in this together and I know this is getting taxing for everybody following along for the right reasons. Nobody wants to see any horse die, let alone one die on camera, but that is the reality of what is happening at HiCaliber all the time. Tell me what was `rescue’ about Bristol and Casey’s life after they landed at HiCaliber? How was their ultimate end and the days leading up to it any better than what they were facing had they not had the misfortune to get drug back to the HiCaliber feed lot? What about any of this makes these village idiots keep throwing money to perpetuate this madness? Is the drama and vulgarity they seem to get off on more important than the suffering of vulnerable animals? Animals with no voice who can’t even say `no’ or `stop’ to the person who makes the call whether they live or die. The same person who hasn’t a fucking clue how to read an animal or the humility to realize she’s in so far over her head she’s never going to surface at this rate. I think we’re past the point of throwing a life-preserver now. I don’t see how the current cast of characters can be trusted to fix this mess they have created. There are links for what you can do in the comment sections of most of the recent posts. Let your conscience be your pilot as far as what to do about it all, but never think that your one voice doesn’t matter. It matters a whole bunch and there is lots of room on this hill. Ciao for now….
Shedrow Confessions 
And Lori Meyers, I kept you out of things because of you having a disability caused from being overweight. If you going tobredicule others someone is going to snap back. I hope your dealings don’t get hurt as you are becoming open season for hunting with your nastiness.
I’ve tried not to mention her much either but she’s nasty and being disabled doesn’t absolve you from being an asshole.
Who is Lori Meyers, and where did she post?
Lori Meyers posts EVERYWHERE on all things HiCaliber and all the time. She’s the latest foot soldier and because she has a visible disability, she thinks that means nobody will call her on her bullshit because that would be really wrong. Sorry, but in my books having a physical disability does not give you a free pass to be an asshole. I won’t mock a disability, but in her case she is just an asshole with a disability and a big mouth.
That’s right. Call any asshole by any other name – that asshole is still an asshole.
A little to wise I think at times. I don’t know much about RMH’s, size or anything other then they are gated and supposed to be good horses for people who have bad backs, knees etc. I do think this horse was taken care of at one time, he’s healthy looking, has a lot of mane and tail, so it makes a person wonder if he’s not stolen. At least that’s what I wonder. You would think someone would have been able to sell him easily enough if they tried to.
Your correct any stressed horse will pace back and forth. But him being a stud isn’t helping his attitude either.
Did I catch that right about that buckskin. Did a Hispanic buy him or her. I barley seen the horse and they have called it a gelding and a mare both so not sure what it was.
One of my pet peeves is when people show up to look at a strange horse in house shoes. Or any kind of inappropriate shoe ear around horses.
I thought it looked like a RMH too! If it is then I wouldn’t be surprised if that horse is stolen. If I had the facilities now I would have picked that horse up.
Now that they have shown him more, he certainly doesn’t look very QH to me. He could be Heinz 57 and just turned out a really pretty color. He is a nice looking horse. I hope he gets out quickly.
It’s bed time I can’t spell right. Shoe wear
was what it was supposed to say.
Trying to follow again
If anyone thinks for one second that the 5 or 10 horses a week HC buys is affecting the number of horses going to slaughter…..think again. IT IS NOT!! Here are some factual numbers for you folks. Tip: If on a cell phone turn screen to landscape. Best viewed on a computer though.
WAKE UP VILLAGERS!!!.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/al_ls635.txt
I wish there was a button for “Absolutely Horrified.” These folks are beyond depraved; sickening. Thank you Shedrow for not being afraid to face these horrible tales and bring them out into the light. This is a righteous, nauseating task you’ve undertaken. Count me among those who hope you can stop blogging soon; that justice will prevail.
I’m not a villager; never even heard of the Manson folks until I came across your blog one day, months ago, while I was researching the darker side of horse rescue. It’s people like these that make me eschew all the GoFundMe pleas (even though some are not frauds), and give to more established places. Kudos to the Warriors among you here!
Absolutely JD. The whole thing just gets worse week after week. Keep fighting the good fight everybody.
I feel the same JD. I found shedrow the same way you did, and was absolutely horrified by what I was reading. What I don’t understand is how they haveve not been shut down. With all the evidence there is, why hasn’t the local, or state, investigated? Or have they, but then been bought to keep silent?
The wheels have justice turn very slowly and especially so for animals. However, they are turning and voices are needed. I’ll post an update where we’re at on the next blog post. Things are happening finally.
Oh my, I have tears after reading this Shed. It can’t happen soon enough.
Just wondering, is it wise to post updates on what is going on behind the scene because of them lurking. Hate to let them know too much. Don’t want them to take precautions unless they are totally going to change for the better
Oh, I think the update I have isn’t really something they can change or fix at this point.
Really???
Can’t wait
I have a question about speaking up for the HC horses. Many of us have not been to HC or had personal experience with them. I do believe the evidence produced by Shedrow but I wonder if the authorities will act on concerns that didn’t come from first hand observation.
Now, back to my cats.
#saytheirnames #karmaisonherway!
That’s your call. The worst that can happen is they disregard what you say. I think it’s value to speak out what you see on their live feeds. People have called AC based on that.
I swore off the live feeds after the first one or two. I’ll try again with an aluminum hat.
#forthehorses
I try to recap the pertinent bits so not everybody has to suffer through them.
I got through a couple after Tuesday’s auction and can hardly stomach the garbage out of her mouth. Tried again tonight because of comments here and could hardly get through the “f” bombs and “I don’t give a s**ts to listen. Glad you are condensing them for us. Thanks for what you do. It’s really hard to get past the profanity to her messages and they are so screwed up anyway you just have to sit and shake your head…. Those posts are the ones that should be sent directly to the AG and the IRS with the complaints. The screen shots are not much better.
The more people that send them, the better.
And I, for one, truly appreciate that
Supaluna,
No worries about not having been there in order to help raise your voice.
You’re seeing everything wrong placed out on video by Manson herself and you’re here because you wish to help horses, and possibly considered donating to Manson’s charity.It’s what she counts on–using the internet to solicit donations. By extension, you are watching her on her chosen venue break not one law, but several.
We’re all trying to help educate the public by showing exactly what is wrong.
You didn’t have to donate, or be there–we see it every day placed in the public eye.
The public can raise an outcry–what helps even more are former volunteers and donors.because they can provide absolute proof of what we see and speak out against. Many of us have been involved with charities for many years and KNOW what is going on and exactly why it shouldn’t be happening, as well as how HiCaliber is breaking the laws it swore to uphold by becoming a charitable organization.
You are definitely needed and appreciated, should you choose to raise your voice with ours. Thank you for even thinking about doing so.
Looking forward to the next update Shed. Hoping Michele is brought to justice soon!
Will Michelle let her villagers know the mustang is safe at Skydog? The horse didn’t run through because of legalities. I’m sure Michelle was aware that the horse was picked by Skydog while she was wheeling and dealing in the parking lot. She probably was the one to facilitate the sale.
I saw some information posted in the Zenyatta forum.
VA will see it, but won’t believe it. She’s been lecturing us all day and says we’ve been “led astray.” Lol! Then she bitched about how a comment was posted. Any sympathy I ever had for her is long gone. She’s a hateful bitch.
I don’t know how that woman has lived this long without somebody smacking her. How can she be so blind? She follows MOP and loves Ann, yet buys into all HiCal’s bullshit? I saw her denying what was on that film. Ask her where the `trained shooter’ was for Torrey, Clint, Gertie, Sarah, and how many others that died horrible deaths on their own on that place. Bang Bang Becky was trained to shoot horses before Casey went down and she was RIGHT THERE and chose to do nothing. Fuck VA. Seriously.
VA is truly a delusional person. I honestly feel sorry for her. I give mad props to Anne. Anne has a lot more compassion then most, for animals and humans. I hope to be the same way some day……just not today.
I especially appreciated one of the forum members’ post today about the treatment of the horses at HCHR. It was a great, articulate comment.
VA seems to be the exception and not the rule over there. I know she’s Aspergers but that doesn’t mean she has to be miserable. I see people were kind enough to start their own thread so as not to upset her and she brings her bullshit and `updates’ over to the new thread.
And I’m not talking about VA……
It takes a special kind of stupid to be shoved so far up the collective village idiot ass like VA is. She’s just stupid, and her long winded TL:DR posts no doubt annoy the hell out of other posters on that forum. Her ignorance and lack of knowledge show up time and time again, and she thinks Shed and other posters are “lying” because they have an “agenda”. Riiiiiiiight. I’ve got a bridge for sale in New York.
I do have an agenda. I want the abuse and neglect to end. I want those horses safe. I want the unwarranted killings to stop. I want the veterinary experiments on vulnerable animals to end. I don’t want to wait until we are in a Monica Thors or Fallen situation. I’m also not fooling around or trying to whip up drama. If that stupid old bitch can deny Manson’s own words in print and on video then there is no hope for her.
Yes, that right there. I read her comments today on that forum and I wanted to throat punch her. Asperger’s is in no way an excuse for her being willfully obtuse. Are we sure that’s not Manson f**ing w/ people?
I don’t know how anybody could listen to Manson on one of her rants and think that’s an awesome person. Look at how she talk to her supposed friends or about her ex friends. Is that a person with integrity? Not by my books.
Where is that forum?
zenyatta.com
I don’t even read VA’s comments because there is absolutely no validity to them.
I just don’t get how she is willfully stupid. Then she puts her own twist on things and it makes me want to throw things at her. That story she made up about Emerson is a complete lie. Manson was right on camera saying how well she was doing and saying she was getting chubby. At no point did she say she was failing to thrive and looking at more diagnostics. VA pulled that out of her ass and then has the audacity to say we lie? How is actual video footage, screen caps and PROOF lying?
Whoo,and now it’s getting good over there with Va’s latest post. Can just see the crotchety old bitch shaking her cane going ‘you kids stay off my lawn’ with her “back in my day” spiel. She got respectful answers early on, there’s a former Pony Clubber (or two or more) on that forum who can explain things nicely, but she apparently sticks her fingers in her ears going “La la la, u haterz r just jelly!”and tries to explain her interpretation in a thread she barged into. No wonder they got snarky.
I notice she likes to go for the sympathy when she’s being a super bitch. She needs to just go away and tend to her cats.
She knew. She just didn’t let it get in the way of yet another rant. Her solution is to just let the untitled mustang go through so even more fall through the cracks in the future. She always sides with the ones doing wrong.
I swear on the last live she went through a full manic cycle in an hour. From agro dropping F’bombs, “I’m Manson and I’ll do what I want” to F’you haters to The haters did me a favor by proving my point to My moral compass points towards the horses. If you take the emotion of the horses out of it (try) and watch the live, it is rather amusing. You can also tell when she pulls something out of her ass then keeps talking as she starts to believe her own hype. So now that Jon Jon is moving in to the Manson Compound does that lower the number of horses HC can take? Does he not have his own hoard?
Yes JonaSSthanhas his own hoard. Apparently, he likes to tell his clients that Michelle calls him at night to cry about money , so I’m wondering if having him live right on site will save her the phone call now? Never really a good idea for friends to enter into these kinds of arrangements and we have all seen what Manson does to friends she falls out with them aka all of them eventually.
Manson is a fucking moron. She goes on live quoting animal control laws, which she is correct about at that moment in time, in the parking lot, they are not applicable to her – I’ll give her. – – – However, back at the ranch on any given day there are horses under her care that are failing to thrive and are being denied medical attention and the proper basics of animal husbandry. On her property the majority of horses generally are degenerating in condition in terms of illness, soundness and develop behavioral issues – any of which may be permanent or life ending. She has no problem buying a horse just to kill it? How is that not abuse? That horse was NOT going to Mexico. Want to stop horses from going to Mexico? Go protest your friend Tara but don’t buy from her. Stop putting money into Misner’s pockets. Want to stop the abuse your seeing in the parking lots? Send animal control the the scum bags house that your getting the abused horses from. He probably has a whole backyard full of them.
To her rant, I say everytime she sidles up to seller with an injured or neglected horse in the parking lot of the auction – as she has created a pattern of doing – she is complicit. When she takes that animal back to HiCaliber and fails to care for it – she is contributing to the negligence. Everytime she accepts the offer of a horse TRIPPER to do business and does not report the name and location, she is complicit. She can spin her hot air to create an illusion of innocence all she wants.
Prison – for you Manson – that day will come.
She will do none of those things because it will cut off her cash flow.
It’s up to us to cut it off for her by contacting an and all of the appropriate agencies. AC won’t handle it? Begin by calling the State Vet.
No accountability for funds? Contact the Attorney General of California. On a plus note, that AG office has stated that they have no problems with investigating equine related rescue criminal activity, unlike some. The last one they prosecuted was in May, I believe. They ARE listening, and collecting information and all voices are needed!
Amen, to who ever called animal control. Thank you!
Asked by someone on the HC page, a great and valid question considering the recent fires.
What is your fire evacuation plan? Even if the fires aren’t near you, it could happen. How long would it take to move all the horses and where are you planning on taking them? Is there a location for long term board if needed while fences, ect are rebuilt? Just worried. Thank you
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Also, does your insurance help cover this expense? October 10 at 4:12am
HiCaliber Horse Rescue: HiCaliber Horse Rescue We are assigned an engine and tanker and shelter in place. Our ranch is considered the fire break.
If they are a shelter in place location, they aren’t a very good one since it looks like they violate more than one fire code. I’d list the codes but I’m not going to do the work for them. Shame on you Becky. We all know Manson would take her kids and get the hell out of Dodge in the event of a fire. The horses would be left to burn. The only thing is, no one is asking her to stay and fight it out. They only want her to come up with a reasonable plan where in an emergency she will put out the call to get help moving as many horses off the property to safety as possible. Manson can sill put her kids first because that’s what moms do. However, with that many horses on the property, it’s going to take a lot of trailers and people who just load up and go to make any kind of difference.
That answer seemed like a non answer to me. I don’t think they have a plan and that’s really bad considering the number or animals and the fact they don’t even do the bare minimum to minimize the risk there.
Pretty sucky answer when you have horses with major health issues or are “neuro”. Would want to make sure these horses were off the properity before the smoke and confusion rolls in. Water would be a huge concern. If HC has problems with filling water tanks, a CAT pump mounted on a pick-up would suck their well dry in a matter of minutes. Don’t think they could get tankers up there. But there is always the swimming pool…
Well they supposedly have a goat wandering around, that should cut some of the fire danger down, right?
Yes, that must be the fix!
This is what makes me angry. BBB should know better. So many lives will pay the price for their lack of a plan and FIRE ABATEMENT!!
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Well, let’s hope they don’t have to learn that lesson the hard way. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody.
Me either, it is truly heartbreaking.
Part of their permit process requires they have an approved plan
I’m sure Bang Bang Becky will come up with something.
Seeing what has and is happening in No Calif, one has to have some plan for those animals. That is a high fire area! No way could they trailer all those animals off that property. No way could they get a number of trailers coming and going off that property at one time. They would probably have to turn them loose and pray for the best. Every horse should have some emergency ID on it even if it is something painted on. Pray God that never happens.
Ha that’s funny. Manson has told volunteers on many occasions that the plan is to let all the horses go free and for the people to evacuate the property. There is no plan. There is no “shelter in place” and there is no possible way that the property is a “fire break.” Just another excuse because the people that were attempting to put a plan in place have left.
Being a former volunteer. I can verify this as something I heard in my time there. Turn them loose. Of course they don’t have any emergency tags to attach to them. Good thing they are using that brand that they have been getting approval for since 2013. Oh wait, nevermind, still haven’t done that either. Good thing they got it on their shirts though. That will definitely help in case of an emergency or with identifying a horse that might back up at an auction. Good Job. Keep up the good work. Idiots.
I actually feel sorry for any horse that would have to go through life with their mark on them any how. Didn’t the real Manson’s followers carve an x on their foreheads too? It kinda reminds me of that but involuntary for the horses.
The very idea of a fire coming near that place scares me for those very reasons. No plan whatsoever for those horses and I doubt anybody would go around and open the pens to let them out. She’d probably grab her own horses and go.
I’m not really sure that she’d even grab her own horses. How many of them are capable of being handled?
Good point and she has branded Barrett a douche now so you know he wouldn’t be getting out on her trailer.
THe other problem is that there is no where for the horses to really go. They would most likely end up in the field next to HC (which is government land) and boxed in. It’s a really bad situation for those horses. Oh X, you mean the “freeze brand” they’ve talked about forever? haha! They’re waiting for that along with the DNA results from the OTTB20/30/40
Well if their proposed freeze brand is that logo they use, it won’t translate well into a brand unless they plan on making it huge which will be a turn off to any show people adopting.
The freeze brand is a star with ‘HC’ on it. They have put it on the back of some of the shirts on the left shoulder.
That would still have to be fairly large to make the points of the star clear. Nasty.
I don’t usually listen to the “rants” of Manson, but I did catch several of them yesterday. First was the shaming rant about that horrible person or persons who screwed up the deal for the Mustang to be“saved” and go off to live in Malibu. How could that horrible person think they were helping that poor horse?, etc.,etc.,etc. As we all know, the Malibu rescue did get that horse and he was supposedly on live video with his intake at their facility while Manson was ranting about how some horrible person screwed up the deal to save him. A lot of this rant was filled with four letter words which show a complete lack of sophistication or under- education, take your pick. Most people I talk to resort to one or two “f” bombs on occasion. They don’t pepper their entire conversation with them. It does get boring after a while.
Then I listened to her rant in the parking lot after the sale was over. Boy she was on a roll there. She made one statement that she would be in the parking lot to save any horse that came in there no matter what anyone thought and she would drag any of them home even if she had to make them comfortable for a couple of days and then “let them go.” Translation: Shoot them in the face. To complete the statement, she went on to say she’d never done that before, but would do it if she had to. Now, I wonder what HiCaliber Thomas would say to that or any of the other horses that “disappeared” within days of arrival at HiCaliber. From this blog and what volunteers have said, there’s quite a list of them. Manson you might think about telling the truth for a change. You are being caught in your own lies way too often. And you do that on live video filled with four letter words. Imagine what an attorney could do with that?
Then there was her rant about people on Shed’s posts suggesting she get Animal Control involved when someone brings in obviously abused horses to sell to her. She was over the top there. And it appears she doesn’t understand that her providing a sales outlet for the abusers makes it easier for them to continue to abuse more animals knowing she’s provided them a market for them when they are done with the animal. More suffering, NOT less! If someone hauls her a horse that’s been beat up, abused, starved or injured without vet care, I’m sure Animal Control would love to talk to that hauler. If they are selling the horse, they must be the owner and if they are the owner, they would be responsible for the condition the horse was in. I especially enjoyed the part about her personal experience since she was an Animal Control officer in a former life. Maybe if she’d done a good job there, she would still be there and not doing what she’s doing now.
I’ve also heard her “I’m not your bitch” rant. Wow. You are the Director of a 501(c)(3) Organization. You ask for support from the public. YOU ARE THEIR BITCH if you take their money! You are accountable to those people who give you donations of money, with the oversight of the State of California and the Federal Government through the IRS. If you don’t want to be anyone’s “bitch” you need to get out of the business and find yourself a job. Then you can be the “bitch” of whoever is dumb enough to hire you.
All anyone wants from HiCaliber is accountability. Post monthly and yearly financial statements. Post vet invoices. Post authorization from a licensed veterinarian for your gunshot euthanasia candidates. Set up a sustainable waste management system. Set up a sustainable watering system. Treat your volunteers like the “gold” you should be. Post feed bills. Post farrier bills. Post equine dentistry invoices. Show where every penny you take in goes. Stop hoarding and start working with the horses you already have before you take in more. Know your limits. If you can’t or won’t do all of the above, I feel sorry for you because people have already taken notice and your money train will grind to a halt. You won’t get many recommendations when you finally have to go look for a job.
I love her rants. It means we’re getting to her and there is so much more going on that she won’t say. She ranted about never having injected herself with ketamine and she kept repeating ketamine. Ok, I’m sure she hasn’t but she sure didn’t list off all the other horse drugs she does take. Her own child outed her on live feed saying she’d seen her mom inject herself many times. Out of the mouths of babes and all…The more she protests they more I know we’re winning. Rant on, Manson. Rant on…
I was thinking last night that that could be the one video that interested CPS the most, if that as shown to them–when a child comes up to their mom talking about them injecting themselves in the feed room.
I’m sure they’ve seen it. That was awhile ago. I don’t like to involve children in this but that doesn’t mean they don’t have mandatory reporters that see those feeds. They have no choice but to report.
Great synopsis seenitbefore! Can’t add much more to that. Tuesday auction their money maker. Does not take an Einstein to see what is coming in and add to that. Never see an invoice from the auction yard. Sure as hell never see the totals of the donations collected. Their Village falls for the same damn spiel every damn week! If people cared about the horses, they would tell them to take proper care of the ones they have and get down to manageable numbers! I have not been to this auction but others who have said there used to be very few horses at this auction. Look at the numbers now and add the parking lot sales! Nobody questions any of this. Maybe they are idiots. Past time to Wake Up!!
Nicely said! The more people point out her patent lies the more eyes that will be opened. Personally, I hope she doesn’t need to look for a job unless it’s making license plates or doing inmate laundry. Michelle is past the point of redemption if there ever was anything to redeem.
I do want to say to people in general and is in no way intended towards you, there is a difference between the trailer sale abusers (this is what Michelle is perpetuating) and the people who have fallen on hard times or however you want to define it and relinquish their horses out of need. I recently saw a post requesting donations for two horses and the rescue had to request no owner bashing. It’s hard to understand if we’ve never been in that place but it happens to the best of people. Granted there are always exceptions to any situation.
I could lose everything I own and you best believe that my animals will be fed and well cared for even if that means I’m living in a cardboard box under a bridge. They eat first in my house and if I can’t feed them, they would be placed with somebody who could. Realize that Manson’s person who is `just trying to feed his family’ is the same asshole every week. Salvador. This is HOW he feeds his family. He hasnt fallen on hard times.
I completely follow you there. I know that I can often be a bleeding heart but there is a huge difference between people making there money off of suffering (Salvador and Michelle) and those in need of help. There are many rescues that help those in need with hay or rehoming and that’s fantastic.
I agree. I’ve seen a few rescues that keep sort of a hay bank, where they will help people through a temporary rough time. Better all around to help somebody keep their animals if it’s a temporary situation.
Just so y’all know it..I’m proud to be one of you guys. The ones helping to fight to make it right.
I have to go to a funeral tomorrow, and life is lightening up a bit.
Hopefully, I will be back on tomorrow and post the info again on where to direct your letters, your complaints, and evidence, of their actions. The horses need your help and this fight will never be won by one person, but by the voices of many.
Y’all have made this week a bit more bearable for me, and for that I thank you..even if I did need brain bleach after Shed’s comment last night. ROFL!
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Thanks D!!!
Thank you D xo
D, nothing but love for you and your trying moments. 💋💋
Thanks D for putting so much work into giving these animals a voice. Hope you feel peace and comfort tomorrow.
My condolences D. We’ll be here waiting. We should all be proud to be here.
#forthehorses
#saytheirnames
#iamshedrow
D~ I’m sorry for your loss.
So very sorry, D. 💖💖🙏
Manson believes that she and HC are beyond the reach of AC or LE. I am sure you saw the post auction rants. Clearly, they do not feel responsibility for horses they take on when in very poor condition.
She was extremely agitated by the AC visit last week. I think she got her knuckles rapped hard. I also don’t think she is out of reach because she’s pulling this crap in a different county than where her buddies work. If anything her pals in AC might want to tell her to stop dropping their names and pretending they are underwriting her stunts because they could be in trouble too.
That makes me happy so much so it may be hard to take the smile off my face.
Did you catch her rant clearly mentioned San Diego County Animal Control being called?
Why would they be involved?
Ontario Auction is located in San Bernardino County.
Pants on fire 🔥
I am not sure she knows how to tell the truth.
Posted on a live feed from the 17th in comments (LOL yeah sure you do and sure it doesn’t):
HiCaliber Horse Rescue · 51:46 We know who the mole is. Doesn’t matter.
Like · Reply · 9 · October 17 at 7:35pm
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Oh, are they still going with there being only one mole? LOL. She has no clue.
Her rant on that video was something else. Just watched it. I think she thinks there is more than one mole, but according to her it doesn’t matter. Yeah right. She also said that the ones that take pictures are basically loony toon volunteers, broken people. They get butt hurt so they get back by sending pictures to the haters.
Well, nothing is EVER her fault and anybody that calls her on her BS is wrong. The people that took those pics were people that cared more about horses than what she’ll say about them. Even if they are butt hurt, it doesn’t change that there are empty water troughs, horses deteriorating and general neglect going on all over the place. How sad they have to leak photos to ignite a fire under her expansive ass.
And saying that the volunteers get butt hurt? Over what Manson? Your shitty attitude and the abuse of the horses?
Word on the street is she tends to run off most volunteers that know much about horses. The ones that last all subscribe to her and Amanduh’s fucked up methods or just bite their tongues and hang in there for the sake of the horses. Manson doesn’t think anybody knows more about horses than her.
My right pinky knows more about horses than her
Doesn’t she realize that the ones sending pictures couldn’t send them if everything was good there? No starving dying horses, no pictures. Is she that delusional?
Yes. She is delusional.
Probably not, but her village idiots sure are.
And I thought it couldn’t get worse!! The more I learn, the more pissed off I get and more tears I shed. WTF is wrong with these people?!
Thank you Shed for bringing this to us. Thank you volunteers for being there and staying for the horses. Thank you to everyone who has come forward to expose the horrible conditions the horses live in, the lack of basic care, the killings. Thanks to ALL of you! I can’t be easy to do this but know it’s appreciated!
How can someone help to get them closed if they haven’t had personal experience with HC? I’ve never been to the ranch, don’t go to auction, have no contact with them.
‘It took awhile but my eyes are open now’ ….that is a great question. By the way, there are many of us like you. I was just a fb follower who gave money one time right before the La. Purchase and my eyes got opened real quick at that time.
Gobsmacked: I hate that I got sucked in but so happy that I paid attention and realized what was really going on. The LA purchase was the last straw for me.
I’ve asked D to repost her links for you guys. There is plenty everybody can do.
I’m sorry I have been so scatterbrained the last couple of weeks and lax on my posting of contact information lately. I’m hoping that things will be better from here on out.
This is the link to the complaint form, and although it is not required, I urge people to fill it out and send it in with the information which you wish to bring to the Attorney General’s attention, as these are “logged in,” as being received and for which the office must account:
Click to access ct9.pdf
1300 I STREET
P.O. BOX 903447
SACRAMENTO, CA 94203-4470
Public: 916 445-2021
Facsimile: 916 444-3651
E-Mail:
Complaints@doj.ca.gov
I use both the email and the fax number on a regular basis to send in any new information, along with screenshots. You will receive a response but sometimes it takes about 60 days, and the case number is not required–they have the case already on file, and the information will be directed into that file.
Shed may include pertinent info needed in her blog, and if I can think of anything else, I will be try to post it.
Thank you D, for posting this info again. Don’t apologize please. You’ve been steadfast throughout and have helped me personally to get this feed lot reported by sharing the info I needed. So thank you. Take care of yourself.
Yes, thank you D. I know you’ve got alot going on so please don’t feel bad for not being here. We all understand. Condolences and love to you and your family.
Ok! I’ve got the info so now let’s see if I’ll have to use it! Nah, HC probably won’t do anything wrong from here on out. Everything will be hunky dorry and we’ll all be able to sleep at night again. 🐴 Right? Right? 😒
#proveuswrong
#saytheirnames
#iamshedrow
This was interesting from the discussion page:
Why does HC start each auction with “We only have enough for one”? It seemed, at least SOME weeks, that there would be carry over from the previous week?
In all fairness, pretty recently they stated they had leftover funds. Shocker. I had never seen them do that before.
This was the answer from the person in Nevada:
No. Auction fund starts over every Mon pm/Tues am. Funds raised on Mon pm-Wed am or so go directly to purchases at auction and responsible rescue costs, unless otherwise stated.
We’ve stated that several times. There have been a few weeks that funds were donated for auction horses, and PB stepped up for horses we were FRing for, and those donors that donated for horses bought by PB asked us to use their donated funds specifically for the next week’s auction.
The only reason they have started with a few dollars recently is because people started calling them on their BS and asking how it is that they always only have exactly enough each week without a penny left over.
I loved seeing that Donate button on the feed. Did I see someone post they saw it got reset? I want to see the total(s) collected on auction day.
It resets every time they do a new live feed and it doesn’t take into account the paypal donations.
I knew it. Feeder bar! Feeder bar!
Exactly, Shedrow. They always started with we need funds. There is no fair with those people – everything they give up as a show of good faith was actually extracted.
Right! Notice I put an (s) on the end of “total”. Between the videos and the number of different postings ,as the day progresses, with donations listed on all of them, makes it hard to track. You can still ballpark it and see they are not being “transparent” on what is coming in. Not impressed with their Donate button. Let’s see the total that was actually collected. They can lay this to rest by posting this info. Anyone waking up yet?
I’m pretty much fed up with the HiCaliber auction drama. This week I tried to stick my head in the sand (like an ostrich) and hope the bad things would just go away. That didn’t happen so I’ll just go back to making random and arbitrary comments with the hopes that something will stick. Maybe this will…
So Michelle, you’ve been ranting and using some favorite penal code? I have a penal code or two for you to think on while your planning your next foray to Ontario Auction. Maybe next week you’ll pack some water and a couple slow feeders for your next purchases while dilly daly over cocktails with your lunch. Again it’s just a misdemeanor but hey, after awhile they rack up the points.
PENAL CODE – PEN
PART 1. OF CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS [25 – 680] ( Part 1 enacted 1872. )
TITLE 14. MALICIOUS MISCHIEF [594 – 625c] ( Title 14 enacted 1872. )
599b.
In this title, the word “animal” includes every dumb creature; the words “torment,” “torture,” and “cruelty” include every act, omission, or neglect whereby unnecessary or unjustifiable physical pain or suffering is caused or permitted; and the words “owner” and “person” include corporations as well as individuals; and the knowledge and acts of any agent of, or person employed by, a corporation in regard to animals transported, owned, or employed by, or in the custody of, the corporation, must be held to be the act and knowledge of the corporation as well as the agent or employee.
(Amended by Stats. 2002, Ch. 787, Sec. 14. Effective January 1, 2003.)
I’ve go another one for you and your kill buyer compatriate… Oops… This one is a felony. I wonder if the California three strikes your out applies to felonies involving animals. Oh, potatoes, potatoes.
PENAL CODE – PEN
PART 1. OF CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS [25 – 680] ( Part 1 enacted 1872. )
TITLE 14. MALICIOUS MISCHIEF [594 – 625c] ( Title 14 enacted 1872. )
598c.
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is unlawful for any person to possess, to import into or export from the state, or to sell, buy, give away, hold, or accept any horse with the intent of killing, or having another kill, that horse, if that person knows or should have known that any part of that horse will be used for human consumption.
(b) For purposes of this section, “horse” means any equine, including any horse, pony, burro, or mule.
(c) Violation of this section is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months, or two or three years.
(d) It is not the intent of this section to affect any commonly accepted commercial, noncommercial, recreational, or sporting activity that relates to horses.
(e) It is not the intent of this section to affect any existing law that relates to horse taxation or zoning.
(Amended (as amended by Stats. 2011, Ch. 15) by Stats. 2011, Ch. 39, Sec. 18. Effective June 30, 2011. Operative October 1, 2011, pursuant to Secs. 68 and 69 of Ch. 39. Note: This section was added on Nov. 3, 1998, by initiative Prop. 6.)
So now it’s Voldy Jr wanting to rescue a skinny mare & foal, offered at $500. HC only raised $661 so they won’t go get them. Prancing Pony rescue said to use $500 of that money to get the ponies and she will cover medical. There is a lag time before everyone on facebook figures out the ponies are spoken for, so more donations are coming in. Any guesses where the extra money is going? Hint, not to Prancing Pony.
Meanwhile Manson is partying it up on Vegas tonight, so please keep sending more money.
On Vegas or in Vegas?
In Vegas. I doubt Vegas the horse is in any shape to put up with her.
Just saw that. All very confusing. Prancing Pony said they would take them. Chris said she would or make up the difference. If they have at least $661 they have the $500 and HC does not need $1,000 for responsible rescue. Unless they plan to send it along to the PP. 🙄. There may be two possible PB, I think. HC said they would refund money before these discussions started.
Isn’t Prancing Pony the one that has Lazarus and the remaining Peruvian mare but never ever do updates?
Yes, they have Lazarus.
Not sure about the mare.
They have plenty of donated funds now to get those two but just keep silent so more funds will come in. Why are people so blind? So they are in Vegas partying on donor funds? Again? Would be a great time to get in and get AC out there or Dept of Ag before they quickly maybe give the horses some food and water. They are the worst of the horse flippers I have ever seen along with Tara and her loser group of fans.
Still not sure where those horses are going. Saw M post in response to having to get donations as they don’t come in after they get the horses, which is mostly correct. Donations coming in under two posts and someone offered $850. Figure all that out!
In Vegas again? Isn’t that where the property owner lives? Maybe they will hit a big jackpot and double the donor money. Don’t they have that open house today? I would think they need all hands on deck.
The horses were already safe and spoken for when a VI offered that last donation of $850. Don’t these VI bother to even read the comments (since HiKill won’t post any updates)? Guess where that last $850 is going? Straight to eyelashes and bad plastic surgery.
Anybody figure out where those horses are going? See any updates? I am sure they will refund any surplus. Right??
She was at a Brittany Spears concert.
Right? It’s getting the local AC up off their posteriors to make an honest appraisal. Going to Vegas on the donar dollar again? Did ya get booted out of all the local casinos?
You can add a review on Yelp
https://m.yelp.com/biz/hicaliber-horse-rescue-valley-center
Also on Great Non Profits
Thank you DeBlonde. I am going to head over and leave a review on both sites. I believe comments can’t be deleted on either one.
Thank you to everyone for providing links and suggestions in areas we can file complaints and voice our concerns and most of all, thank you Shed for providing this forum.
Here is the link for Great Non Profits
https://greatnonprofits.org/org/hicaliber-horse-rescue-inc
I went to this can’t figure out how to leave a review. Not so Tec savvy…
4horses, you have to sign up (or register) before you can leave a review. Then just enter HiCaliber Horse Rescue near Escondido, CA in the search menu. That will take you to the page where you leave your review. 🙂
Nevermind figured it out.
I find it funny that all reviews are this year and that under tips a Michelle K says “Best Rescue in the country”. Haha
Link to complaint form for charities with Attorney General state of California
Click to access ct9.pdf
They raised a lot of money for those horses last night and their update was vague about where they went. They’re safe, thank you, that’s it. The village idiots never read through the comments to know that another rescue has them and offered to pay for “responsible rescue”. HC will grudgingly offer to refund money but I think most people feel uncomfortable doing that.
How many donors use pay pal but don’t leave a comment on Facebook? They must have raised a good chunk of money that they just keep for whatever they want. Vegas, baby.
The village idiots are well trained
I just watched one of the videos. The one with her and Robyn in the car. Michelle is just disgusting! Why would you do videos like that? Why are people OK with this? Robyn needs to find herself and stop feeding into this crap. This is not professional on any level.
I agree, but I’m not sure why everybody wants to give Robyn a free pass. She seems to be a willing participant in all this and she’s a dick too. She may not rant on camera, but certainly gets her digs in. It wouldn’t break my heart to see her in orange and wearing handcuffs along with Manson.
If I was Becky I would feel disrespected with all of Michelle’s talk of being sexual with other people. All. The. Time. I’ve heard that Becky says that the real Michelle is not like that, but there can’t be such a huge disconnect between the crass white trash foulmouthed horny for everyone offering sexual favors nasty dirty house pig who shows up in public and the one who shows up for you in private. She’s disgusting and nothing about her is inspiring, kind, nurturing or remotely appealing. To have someone like that running a place where broken animals and broken people come to look for hope and healing just blows me away. And Becky is just as culpable. She has a responsibility to do good and do what’s right. Her parents are good people – she has no excuse for being spineless and feeding that bitch’s ego (or ever expanding ass).
I would imagine her parents would be quite ashamed of her if they knew what goes on at that ranch. Bang Bang Becky looks a bit embarrassed from time to time herself. Not sure why, she hasn’t been around too much on camera lately. I’ve heard some rumbling about trouble in paradise, but nothing concrete. I think Manson would be in pretty big trouble without access to her income though.
I thought Blankround Breyear Horse Rescue was against HiCaliber. If so, after what he said about Shedrow, I’m not quite sure.
On another note, during her live feed while driving, I was wondering when her boob was going to fall out of her shirt. Also noticed after her canine tooth her teeth look like shit.
Eye Opener, I just saw that too and I was puzzled as well. I believe Blankround is referring to I Am Shedrow Again (the poop page where Anthony, Marg and Jilly live). That page is the one that has assigned NDTC a new identity and keeps ranting about her married boyfriends.
Considering his video was poking at HiCaliber I’m pretty sure he’s still anti-HiCaliber. Seems he’s talking about the shitheads on the poop page as well. I know who his friend is. I don’t think he’s referring to anything going on here.
I don’t look at Manson’s boobal region if I can help it. I did notice that when she opens her mouth too much you can see what a shit job those false teeth really are because her snaggle teeth are showing in the back.
Yeah, I forgot to add I am a dental hygienist and whenever I see a live feed I can’t stop looking at her teeth. They (from canine to canine on the top) are obviously veneers or crowns (bad ones) and the shade is much, much lighter than her natural teeth. So obvious, a good veneer or crown will blend with your natural teeth. Normally, I would never criticize someone’s teeth but this is Manson we are talking about so I am making an exception…
Thank you RIP Thomas. I have been in the dental field for almost 25 yrs. and the first thing that I see are a person’s teeth. Either Tijuana tx. or a really shitty dentist. And I feel confident that she did not pay for it. Looks like shit.
I’m beyond caring about being kind or nice or thoughtful with my comments.
Manson…..I am anxiously awaiting your demise.
Lmao!
yeah, I have a crown on one of my teeth (not front) and I can’t remember which one it is ever. LOL. I’ll criticize her teeth because she dipped the donor dollars to pay for them and they look like shit. Worse than those pageant flippers they put on little kids.
That is some of the WORST cosmetic dentistry I’ve ever seen. If I were a dentist I would be mortified to send someone out in public like that. Could she only afford to do 8 teef? I mean they really look like shit. They aren’t even the same size as her other teeth and they make her talk with a lisp. They sad part is she thinks she looks good. Hell I wouldn’t even smile with those!
Obviously didn’t invest enough of the donor dime on those oversized puppies…
Chicklett teeth!
Total chicklett teeth!! Lmfao I haven’t heard that one in a while. I seriously would be a closed mouth smiler if my teeth looked like random puzzle pieces!
You would be amazed at the number of people who don’t smile because of crappy teeth!
And the fact that Manson has spent God knows how many donor dollars on shit dentistry is
Sorry…didnt finish….
“Shit dentistry is” astounding to me. I cringe when I watch her speak, which is becoming less and less often.
Yes, even jacked up cosmetic dentistry is very expensive. It is fascinating to watch her speak. She seems to lick her lips a lot and I’m sure it’s to try to get her lips around that ratchet hack job dentistry she’s got. If it was anyone else I would actually feel sorry for them. And no Michelle, trust me, we are not jealous.
I don’t feel sorry for her. She chose to mess her face up like that. I would think that cheaping out on cosmetic work isn’t what you would want to do. Those lips look like she’s had them in a penis pump and I swear those eyebrows continue to migrate north.
You know her besties, instead of being real friends, are telling her how good they look and how good she looks. I almost feel like sending her some Candy Corns for the rest of her teeth!
Not candy corns…..send a couple box of Chickletts!!
It’s ok, she’ll have a whole new set of friends in a year or two. They never last long with Manson.
How hilarious to watch her talk around those big teeth and pumped flapping lips. But heyyyyy, nice nails girl. Tips on how to shovel manure and never break ‘um?
She is such a squat chuck.
Tis the season! LOL!
I am sorry someone is being harassed because of my comments. I am not who they think I am. Stop bullying. You want me to stop making comments get out of the horse buying business and go away.
For today….I pray that every horse,cow,,dog ,cat, whatever other animals are on that ranch receive water, good food, and medically are taken care of. No person or animal should go without basic necessities and I pray that things get better for the animals that are under the care of ruthless and cruel people. I pray that Hicaliber is forced to become transparent and that justice will be served for all animals forced to live behind their fences. Amen.
Amen
Oh happy day… Before I start my cut and paste I want to say. I’m not who you think I am. You go away and I go away.
I have a problem with willful ignorance. I have a problem with people thinking these photos are doctored or from disgruntled former volunteers. I have a problem with HiCaliber period.
“The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but Can they suffer?” – Jeremy Bentham
Awareness of animal cruelty and harsher sentences for those convicted has become increasingly important in the last few years. Many law schools now offer specific courses on the subject, all 50 states have animal cruelty felony provisions (most of felony provisions are for malicious, willful, or aggravated animal cruelty (language varies from state to state) when only four had such penalties in 1986, and the FBI just this year started collecting data on arrests for animal cruelty, which was previously lumped into the “other crimes” category. The thing that we seem to not have an answer for, however, is the strong correlation between animal abuse and other crimes such as bullying, assault and murder.
WHAT IS ANIMAL CRUELTY?
Contrary to the first thought that would jump into many people’s heads, abuse is not just a violent act towards an animal; it is also about neglect and failing to provide for its general well-being. This covers an array of circumstances, including leaving an animal chained up outside during inclement weather or for long periods of time, hoarding, or failing to provide veterinary services as needed.
Dogs are the animals that suffer the most abuse. From fighting to the general neglect just mentioned, approximately 64 percent of reported cruelty involves dogs. They are the most common household pet, and unfortunately, household pets are the animals that suffer the most abuse. In correlation to other incidents of domestic violence, 71 percent of pet-owning women who were victims say that their attacker also targeted their pet.
IS IT ALWAYS A CRIME TO ABUSE AN ANIMAL?
While animal abuse is never O.K., it it isn’t always a crime and -even when it is – not all animals are protected (especially in laboratory testing). There is a lot of variance in animal abuse laws from state to state, particularly in terms of which animals are covered. For example, some states do not include fish or other sea creatures on their protected animals list, while others still, such as Nebraska, do not include livestock.
http://www.dopplr.com/animal-cruely-laws
ANIMAL CRUELTY LAWS BY STATE
Here I’m only cutting and pasting the California information.
California- Animals covered Every dumb creature, endangered species
1st offense-$1,000-20,000 fine and/or 6 months-1 year jail
2nd offense-$20,000 fine and/or 3 years jail
3rd offense-N/A
Psychological testing-Yes
*Notes regarding laws in table: In some states, penalties vary greatly. Some states do not have escalating penalties based on prior convictions, but rather they base it on the stipulations listed here: which animal was subjected to cruelty, how harsh the cruelty was, whether there was intent to sell, whether classified as misdemeanor or felony, how valuable the court deems the animal, and whether it lives or dies. All punishments regard maximum penalties.
Excellent information.
Can someone please explain to me what the purpose is of the Horror page on FB? It seems like a ton of drama.
LOL – well, look at the subject matter. Occasionally, someone does a decent analysis – but mostly it is a release valve. Some people like money, some like attention.
Originally it was a place for those people who had questions for HC but were blocked to ask anyway. And for those with personal experiences to speak out as well, because those people who had any negative issues were quickly blocked as well.
Believe it or not, there are still people who don’t know about this blog and that group does help to point people this way. I think they try to keep it drama free but, most of us, here and there, are very passionate about horses and things will come across that get our blood boiling and sometimes we can be guilty of lashing out.
Which one? There is one that has quite a bit of decent information one and then there is the one that Manson and company run which is basically to bully people into silence. So far it’s not working.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It’s totally off my radar. I checked it out and it just seems like a petty, whiny, tantrum page.
Hey HiCaliber, it’s °105.5 in the shade where I’m at. Have you checked your water troughs and shade covers lately?
Are you suggesting that Manson actually breaks a nail???
Suggesting? I believe I’m saying… 😉
This unseasonably hot weather is VERY concerning, as just this morning, they put out a post asking for new volunteers to help care for the horses.
What has happened to all of the 400 active volunteers they boast about having?
Worried about those 150+ ? horses…
This weather is tough on everyone but people can walk to the fridge and get a bottled water or spend time in a lovely pool. It’s super concerning for horses because they colic easier in this weather. I’ve heard people discuss how horses seem to colic easier eating grassy hay and how they need plenty of extra water.
I know it takes a few hours to water from top to bottom so I think instead of bragging about a couple horses going here and picking some up there Michelle should get cracking. That’s a self promoting video I’d like to see. I don’t even expect the troughs to be crystal clear just full.
Has she EVER fed the horses or is she too good for that?
You would think at least once but then again she gets the oxygen first AND she’s nobodies bitch…
We all know she did at the beginning before her herd, I mean head got too damn big 🤢
😀 That’s a good one!
Don’t get me started! The $$$$ they bring in and still many of those horses have no shelters and nobody questions that!!!! Surprised AC didn’t cite them for that.
Right? They have a few shelters that need poles that have been lying around for awhile. I guess they’re best at words not actions.
“HiCaliber Horse Rescue was live with Cheryle Seedhouse.
18 hrs ·
Still hauling all of our saves!!! Mom and baby were delivered to an awesome home! The pinto pony was placed. Paint mare is coming home with us, the OTTB gets scoped tomorrow and you should go live with us tonight!!!!”
Anyone notice the donate button with this post? VIs didn’t hit the feeder bar. Also, did they have their hands on a Dartmoor???? Heaven forbid. LOL If they have a Dartmoor, it will be labled as aggressive as they are smarter than most people. Wasn’t able to listen to video so I hope it was just an answer to someone ‘s comment.
Oppss, my bad. Was finialy able to scroll thru comments. They don’t have one. THANK GOD!
I’m worried for the mare with the swollen face. I’m trying to think of a surgery that has not ended badly at hical. It’s the aftercare I worry about.
That looks to be a tumor. My experience with that sort of thing is they are not operable or are extremely expensive if they are. If that was the case and she was mine, I would likely just let her be comfortable until it affected her quality of life. I don’t believe she should need to be put down immediately.
She probably will be, though. Why waste food on a terminal inmate, er, Horse.
No, the person they were talking to is in England and was talking about Dartmoor ponies or something.