What a complete and utter shit show this past week has been. Actually, I think we passed shit show around about Tuesday and jumped square into clusterfuck. In fact, we need a new word for this territory beyond clusterfuck that we have found ourselves in the past few days. I don’t even know what that would be, but it’s certainly not anything an honest person would ever aspire to. Just when you think there is no level that The Manson Family won’t stoop to, they go and outdo themselves. Such was the case this past week, not the least of which was a fallout from Fice-gate. Seeing as that’s on so many people’s minds since the last post, I think that’s where I’m going to kick things off today. Pull up a chair and let’s do this thing…
For those of you that have been living in a vacuum this past week, you can refresh yourself on the death of Barbara by reading the previous post either by scrolling back or clicking this link. Normal functioning human beings were sickened, saddened and disgusted at the condition and end of that young mare. As you can see from the screen shots above, a few village idiots even stepped over the traces and had momentary independent outrage too. In the videos embedded in the previous post, Manson even attempted some faux outrage about Barbara’s condition and pretended she didn’t know much about her history. All that changed when it was revealed that Andrew Fice was not only the one who had turned the horse in, but was also the one that had hurt her. Manson has since dug in her heels and attempted some damage control. She continues to defend him and even went so far as to say that people should just be kind and take him under their wing and teach him properly. You know, because he’s so pleasant and all when he isn’t inviting people to give him blowjobs and talking about putting it in a horse’s ass (see previous posts). Who wouldn’t want to take somebody like that under their wing? It figures a malignant personality like Manson would fail to understand why normal people don’t bother wasting their time on people like she and Fice and that’s even if either one of them had the least bit of natural ability with horses, which they do not. That’s not the only thing Fice and Manson have in common either. It would seem they both have this thing where they fuck up and hurt animals and it somehow ends up being the fault of the animal.
The above screen shots are a recent text conversation between Fice and a horseperson that has given him the benefit of the doubt in the past. I’m not even sure those are the right words so much as this person was perhaps a bit more `open minded’ than some of the rest of us have been in the past aka somebody that has shown him kindness and actually could have taught him something had he bothered to listen or reach out from underneath Manson’s skirt. I’m going to break it down into bite sized chunks for the sake of discussion. A few things stand out for me in this conversation not the least of which is Fice claiming that mare had only been in his possession for 12 hours before he knew he was in over his head? That isn’t making a lot of sense for me considering his post about her and the two videos of him working with her and by my count he had her at least six weeks. All that in 12 hours? Other than being a little off, the mare certainly didn’t appear to be dangerous or anything other than forgiving. Fice also blames the horse for costing him so much money to feed and it being her own fault for losing weight when he was giving her six whole flakes of alfalfa. No mention of grain or anything that actually helps horses gain weight. She got thrown some hay in the dirt and he wonders why she didn’t put on weight. This horse was a Thoroughbred and they take a lot more fuel than your mature QH or mustang. I guess when Manson is your goto for all things horse, it’s no damn wonder Fice is such a trainwreck. I also caught the mention that after 2 weeks, Fice still couldn’t pick up her feet, but if we are to believe his order of events he’d already ridden her by then. Who would do that? Sounds to me like a rather large hole in the groundwork if you’re jumping on before you can do the most basic grooming and handling on a horse.
The purple writing was the person having the conversation with Fice and I thank them for their permission in posting these screen shots. I know they were posted in a private group for a few people to see, but it was felt they deserved a wider audience. I found it somewhat gratifying to know that the BLM is taking this whole thing with Fice seriously since the videos surfaced of his training methods on the mustangs a few months ago. I’m not sure how they’ll feel about these latest developments with Barbara. One thing I can assure Fice is that I won’t be forgetting his name as long as he’s abusing horses with his `methods’ and as long as he’s putting his shit out on social media I’m going to shine a light his way too. I don’t really give a shit about the day he was born one way or another. He needs to find a new job that has nothing to do with other living creatures right along side his mentor, Manson.
Oh, where to start on these ones? How about the head wounds? They are more apparent in the videos of her, but I can pretty much say that horses generally don’t lose the hide in the middle of their forehead or around their eyes from pulling back. Funny how both Saban and Mercy came away from Fice’s with injuries around their left eyes too, both of which nearly cost them their lives had they not gotten out of HiCaliber. Saban from nearly starving to death and having a walled off infection, Mercy from being blinded with a broken eye socket and ending up on the long list for euth. Some of Barbara’s wounds may have been from her halter, but Fice is a super dumbass to have been tying her up in a rope halter to begin with, especially when he knew she pulled back. Then we see the 30% diagnosis of `bone change’ with a ringbone thrown in for good measure. BULLSHIT. You can’t diagnose that stuff with a photograph and I don’t care if Dr. Talbot was on site the day she shot Barbara, we all know Manson wouldn’t have wasted the cash on the rads when she didn’t raise any money for the horse. The picture proves nothing and horses her age don’t generally end up with ringbone. This horse was BROKEN in ways we will never know and my thoughts are that Manson didn’t want to waste the money on finding out something she didn’t want to know anyhow. What we do know is that mare was not foundered when Fice got her and that pastern was already like that when he was riding her because it was apparent in the pictures he posted of her when he first brought her back to his place (see previous post).

Conversation between Manson and Fice
Then after Manson has had to shoot the mare in the face and complained about her condition twice on live video, she agrees to give Fice a reference to train somebody else’s horse. This is the same person who states over and over how she wouldn’t let him train her own horses, but she’s going to give him a reference to do this to somebody else’s horse….AGAIN. I guess I am somewhat horrified that there is a nest of gunsels where people think it’s ok to send horses to Fice to be `broken’ and that Manson’s reference would have any value at all. If anything I would think it would be a red flag to run in the opposite direction.
As you can see, Romney Faye and Manson think the Fice situation is hilarious and even joke about sending him another horse. I’m not sure why it even surprised me considering Manson found the Dr. Drip situation funny enough to joke about too. I will say that with all their cuntiness in this video aside, whichever hater is sending text messages like that, if they even are, is not helping matters. Threats are not cool and it doesn’t really lend itself to any credibility at all. Please don’t do shit like that. It’s not cool and it’s not funny. Leave that up to the village idiots and Manson, who is apparently still going by `Michelle Kinechewa’ on Romney Faye’s contact list at least. Moving right along…
This isn’t ground breaking news either since everybody knows, but I figure I’ll just park it here with the other Fice stuff so we have all the pertinent screenshots together. While Barbara was in his possession, Fice was in taken into custody and charged with assault with a deadly weapon other than a firearm likely to cause great bodily injury or something like that. It was on Christmas night actually, because what says Merry Christmas like a little festive beating? I’m a 0% attorney but it would seem that some jail time is a distinct possibility given the fact that Fice has beaten up women in the past and gone to jail. We’re not sure who he punched out this time but his favorite targets in the past have generally been women The relevance to all this is that people who are physically violent towards other humans, especially women and children, usually got their start abusing animals. It would appear that violence is a default for Fice and that’s not anybody that has any business being around animals in my opinion. He especially has no business being around animals that have been abused in the past. It might be worth reminding people that he still has at least two HiCaliber horses in his possession at this time. Dylan and Rojas. If you need a reminder at what their lives have been like with Fice, you can revisit these video links: Dylan being bucked out and Rojas having a great time. Do either of these two horses look like happy horses like Manson claims?
I guess we shouldn’t be all the surprised that Manson continues to defend and support Fice. Despite what is given lip service and shown on live feeds, rough handling is part of the culture at HiCaliber. Only the other day we were treated to Skeletor (screen shot above) exercising her personal horse, Luis, by snapping a whip in his face. I’m probably not even the one to ask wtf she was trying to accomplish considering I don’t even own a whip. Most of us can pretty much move a horse around with proper body positioning which apparently not a skill that a single person at HiCaliber has. I’ve never needed a whip to lunge a horse or `put pressure’ on one either. That aside, I have been hearing rumblings and finally was sent confirmation that Taylor has been working her way back into the fold at HiCaliber. This is particularly alarming to me. As some of you may recall, she was Manson’s Minime and paid medical director up until a few months ago. Officially, she left to pursue a job at border patrol, but it was the general consensus that most of the red shirt crew were not comfortable with her returning. According to numerous inside sources, she was extremely cruel to all the animals at HiCaliber which also might have something to do with her attempts to adopt Percy being blocked last summer. Specifically there were incidents of her kicking and punching horses, hitting some with boots or other equipment, skipping bandage changes and meds on horses she didn’t like and suggesting anything and everything be added to the euth list whenever possible. She was said to have always been happy when a horse she suggested ended up on the euth list. Horses weren’t the only target of her dislike and even the smaller animals such as resident dogs did not escape her cruelty, a fact that Manson, Angrid, Skeletor, Kat the AC officer and pretty much all the board and crew were well aware of with some even voicing disgust. Such is the force of Manson’s personality though, that they seem to be willing to set their personal values aside now that Manson’s pet monster and Minime seems to making a tentative comeback. Considering some of Manson’s personal animals were said to be the target of Taylor’s cruelty, I find it quite disturbing she’s around again. The fact that so many red shirts that were witness to her behavior are biting their tongues rather than speak up for what is right, is just sad. There must be a lot of booze and xanax flowing on that ranch for most of them to be able to sleep at night. Just sayin…
Even though there was no auction last week, HiCaliber’s regular suppliers still came through to keep everybody on the giving schedule. First up was Johnny Cade, the emaciated horse from Misner’s lot. We’ll never know the true story behind the horse because neither Manson nor Romney Faye can tell the truth and they don’t bother to even get their stories straight with each other before firing up their lie holes. As you can see from the video above, maybe he spent a few days at Misner’s or maybe not. It’s fluid. Romney Faye went there to pick up a puppy for Amanduh and photograph ponies (more on that in a bit) and spied a money maker as far as sympathy donations go. Because he’s going to cost more to feed, that meant that the village idiots had to come up with some extra $$ to get him safe. I always wonder if they actually would walk away and leave a horse like that if the donations didn’t come through but then I remember that Manson will happily shoot a horse for much less so there is that. Obviously Johnny Cade was acquired along with a little mini donk. The pair of them were eventually picked up by Manson and taken to the Ontario auction parking lot to meet up with Salvador and his offerings for the day. They had to make sure he has more money to buy his tripping horses apparently.
Manson was feeling extra salty and pissy once she got to the parking lot. It also happened to be the same day the news about Fice being the one that surrendered Barbara broke, so it might have had something to do with that. At any rate, there were two relatively healthy horses tied to the fence and then there was Salvador and his infamous red trailer full of atrocities. One of the horses was Mucho Chrome who was in good shape and has been widely talked about and covered everywhere. My main concern was Watson and Sylvia who were in horrible shape. Sylvia’s injuries were, yet again, consistent with having been tripped or at least front footed at some point and Watson was just a mess all over. Funny, how Salvador always has animals with these types of injuries, no?
As usual, Manson dragged the horses around the parking lot a few times because she claimed a `vet was watching’ although she didn’t specify if was a 100% vet or a 30% one. Apparently that was enough to seal the fate of both Sylvia and Watson because she diagnosed bone change and then claimed that Sylvia was squirting joint fluid for good measure and added dramatics. Even though that wouldn’t probably even be possible, nobody thought to question her or maybe they just can’t be bothered anymore. Manson also took the time to thank God and wax poetic about how awesome it feels to be the one that gets to shoot horses in the face. Any question that I might have had about whether or not she enjoys killing horses was pretty much answered after that little speech, especially when she mentions looking them in the eye just before shooting them.
I just want to warn anybody that clicks the embedded video above that it’s not work safe. It’s yet another foul-mouthed rant from Manson after somebody asked about shooting the horses or something. If you listen through right to the end, she gives out the ranch address, invites the person up and threatens to shoot her. It’s no biggie though because Manson only jokes around according to her, but everybody else is out to get her.
So, while all this wheeling and dealing was going on in the parking lot, Johnny Cade and the sick little mini donk were hanging out in Manson’s trailer. The auction was closed so presumably they hadn’t had water offered to them since they had left Misner’s earlier in the day. The temp was around 80 or a bit higher and Romney Faye had even commented on how hot it was on live feed. Sadly, the little donkey did not survive her ordeal and died in the trailer, but at what point is not clear. What we do know for sure is that at some point during the late afternoon, Manson took Sylvia and Watson off somewhere to be shot, leaving her with 4 horses and a donkey to try to drive over 2 hours back to HiCaliber. Around 6pm, she was spotted back at Misner’s with at least one of the horses (Boone) tied to her trailer. Not sure if that was to unload the donkey’s dead body or tranferJohnny Cade. Manson also reported that he went down in the trailer and they had to find somebody else to bring him back to the ranch so he could lay down in transit. Perhaps that was their good pal Bubba since that’s where all this horse shuffling went on. In reality, it was just like their auction days other than they didn’t go through the charade of going into the sale ring. The horses all came from their usual suppliers and everybody got their cut.
Once Johnny Cade was home, the donkey was disposed of and Salvador got his weekly allowance, it was time to move more horses for Bubba Misner. Because nothing makes it rain money like a crisis situation, they created this `truck is coming’ type scenario to motivate people in cooperation with Baker Ranch who has also jumped aboard the Voldemort Express lately. The problem is that as early as December 20th I had an email from a reader telling me that Misner’s lot was more full than usual and many of the horses were minis. As you can see from Bubba’s ad on December 27th he was or had recently been in Stephenville, Texas which just happens to be in the same general area as Morgan Mill where his sister and her husband, Clay Gravatt live. Clay likes to deal horses from Bowie from what I’m told and lately that has extended to minis. Another feature of these screen shots is the price mark up between what Bubba was asking on the 27th and what HiCaliber and Baker were asking their people to pay this past week. The other important point is that they make mention on how sick these animals are and Manson even went so far as to mention the lot they were coming off had strangles. Yes, that would be the same lot that Johnny Cade came from and the dead donkey. They were both in the trailer with the horses from Salvador, including Mucho Chrome. As was shown on live feed, Chrome was turned loose in the same arena Baby Magnum is turned out in and we actually saw Manson halter him up, and Skeletor bring her own horse in the same arena right after. Apparently keeping a tray of bleach in the barn is going to prevent bugs from spreading and we’re all supposed to pretend we don’t hear the endless hacking in the background of their live feeds lately.
It seems like Salvador was overachieving this week because he wasn’t done dumping horses on the village yet. This one was slower to tug at the heart-strings for some reason and HiCaliber is declaring him safe but playing coy with where he is. I’m not entirely sure that we’ll ever hear about him again or if he even gets a name. Now we hear there are other skinnies that need rescuing but I’m pretty sure they’ll show up at auction today. I can’t wait to hear their back stories! Will they be from a sad old rancher? The teenage girl whose family is breaking up? Maybe they’ll come up with some new stories for the new year. I hope Manson googles up some new diagnostics other than ringbone, bone change and neuro while she’s at it.
Isn’t that a whole bunch of screen shots? Ha! They’re a great read though. Think of it as a mini guest post. This is one former HiCaliber supporter’s experience with their adoption process and a bait n switch. It was decided to blank the names of the horses involved out to minimize threats and retaliation from the Manson family. Not everybody is prepared or willing to allow that level of crazy into their lives and I respect that. What is important is the complete and utter incompetence of the adoption team and `trainers’. Even though some members of the adoption team have changed recently, I’ve since learned that Manson and Amanduh habitually interfere with adoptions and aren’t always all that motivated to allow `lesson’ or their trail horses to go easily. In other cases, and I’ve heard this from many different sources, their horses are grossly overpriced. It seems like for a self-proclaimed business woman, Manson kinda lets’ herself get upside down financially with these animals. There comes a point where you’re never going to get out what you put into them from anybody, but at HiCaliber the depreciation tends to happen quicker. Horses get hurt and lose condition at an alarming rate there, they drop dead more than is normal, and then you have the issue of them being mishandled. I would think they would want to let horses move on as soon as possible. I probably shouldn’t waste my time applying common sense to their situation though.
I think the screenshots above speak for themselves. Manson’s statements about being a successful trainer and fixing horses just dropped my jaw. I seriously know of no other successful trainer that habitually shoots horses for being `behavioral’ or even at all and her hang up about bits is knee slapping funny. I guess I liken it to those Sunday Christians that feel that just because they spend an hour or two in church on Sunday, they can spend the rest of the week being a hateful shit weasel. Manson thinks that not putting a bit in a horse’s mouth cancels out all the abuse and neglect horses suffer at her hands or with her blessing. You know, because a bit in soft hands is far worse than ill fitting tack with a too large and uneducated rider and a rope halter. Don’t even get me started on the lesson screen shot. What passes for horsemanship at the HiCaliber feed lot offends me to my very core, but the fact that they are so delusional they feel they must `teach’ takes it to a whole other level.
Am I the only one that has sprained their eyeballs from rolling them every time Manson discusses the miracle of Barry Boi? I knew she didn’t really know shit about horses and even less about lameness, but even this crap kinda surprises me. A few weeks ago, she was all ready to shoot Barry Boi in the face because of his `old fracture’. Then her spawn falls in love and, all of a sudden Barry Boi is thriving and a miracle. Or is he? He’s actually normal. Older arthritic horses do better when they can move around. Normally HiCaliber inmates stand in crowded pens and don’t get much chance to move around at all. That was Barry Boi’s case before the kid took an interest. Horses get depressed just like people and I’m sure standing in a tiny pen full of shit and getting eaten alive by flies with no interaction at all would be a bit depressing. So yes, on some level, the kid saved his life by taking an interest, but Barry Boi is no different from countless other horses standing in those pens that will never get that chance. So many of their horses get progressively worse and more stove up from lack or exercise and attention with the only way out being under the blue tarp. How many in the last month alone? The one thing I do worry about with Barry Boi is that Manson has no clue that masking pain completely is not always a great thing. I cringe watching them trot him on the pavement from the golf cart. The horse is not 100% sound and he’s going to be a very sore horse should he come off the meds or the kid loses interest and stops exercising him regularly. However this ends, I’m sure it will bring in a lot of donations and sympathy which is probably what Manson counted on all along.
This brings us nicely into our Tuesday grift fest. If I was a betting person, I’d put a little money that those `skinnies’ we keep hearing about will miraculously show up at auction today. Salvador will drag in more wrecks that he created and Misner will haul in some disease off his lot, all of which will end back at HiCaliber at some point. They are now at the point where horses are moving in and out so fast that the village idiots can’t keep up. That mare that was tied to the fence last week still hasn’t gotten a name, nor has the one-eyed palomino stud that was last seen in Salvador’s trailer. That horse never even made it back to the ranch nor will he probably ever. It’s craziness and none of this is a horses first situation. Salvador isn’t out gathering up those horses. He’s the one that hurts them that badly and Manson is making money off their suffering. Apparently somewhere in the neighborhood of $85k a month if she is to be believed. Even with her hoard, that’s a lot of money considering she had to beg for body removal money last week when she went on another killing rampage and can’t seem to refund adoption fees without bouncing those payments either. Where is it all going? I’m telling you, if Manson were a horse and belonged to me, she would be spending some serious time in a roundpen every day until she got a grip. All joking aside though, I’m tired and I know many of you are too. It seems like every week the lies get bigger and the cons more numerous. I choose to look at it as a things coming to a head and this will all fall in sooner, rather than later. Until that time, we’ll keep that light shining and try to do the next right thing. #saytheirnames #hisnamewaswatson #hernamewassylvia #littledonk
Re: Fice’s arrest info: How in the AF did the California Highway Patrol become the arresting agency on an assault with a deadly weapon? Was he in a car, on the freeway or what? On Christmas? I can’t wait to hear this story..
I’ve never been arrested so I’m not sure how that works. Would it have something to do with him living out of town? Going by the time of day I’m going to go ahead and guess he wasn’t sober when it happened.
Depends on the location of arrest. I live in rural northern CA under the jurisdiction of sherriff and CHP. CHP might have been who was routed to the call.
That’s what I’m thinking.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought the info on the arrest said he was at the 91 and 71? In that case, it would depend exactly where he was, because I’m pretty sure borders of Corona, Chino Hills, and Yorba Linda all come together right there.
Just an observation. Jonathan looks to be the best rider they have there. Even bareback he looks like he is balanced enough he ride 5 meter circles around the Starfish and the Humptydumpty.
Should read COULD ride…
Humpty Dumpty! That’s great 😃
OMG, that’s a sad thing to ponder. JonASSthan looks like a monkey fucking a football when he rides.
As much as I’m not a fan of his, the video of him on that gaited horse was about the best any of them have made a horse look. Maybe it’s just one of the better-trained horses they have, but she actually stopped smoothly and seemed to steer in the rope halter without a problem. I’m not saying he should start giving lessons for $100, but it made me cringe much less than most of their riding videos.
I wouldn’t disagree with that but I don’t think he made her look like a $2500 horse which is what I heard her adoption fee is set at.
Looks like they are setting the steer up to be killed as they are asking for help on fb diagnosing it. I don’t think the vet saw the steer as and if that is the case why are they treating it with meds if they have no clue what us going on with it? Playing vet and being a vet are two different things. Could one of the followers tell M that please? This circus makes me sick in so many ways.
When they were at auction getting the steer one of the villagers told her to watch Dr Pol because she could learn how to take care of cows from the show. I wonder if the villager ever looked up Dr Pol and the Michigan veterinary board.
I also learned from the villagers cow is the default term to use, there are bulls, heifers, and steers, but cow covers all of them. What happened to bovine?
They said their vet looked at him, but is admittedly inexperienced with cattle. It is true that it can be hard to find vets that work on cattle in So Cal, but in that case, they should have found someone more local to Ontario to look at him. Plenty of cows over there.
Moss is a cattle vet. Why not call him out?
Why are they even taking these other animals?
Moss is my vet and after speaking with him some time ago, it is my understanding that he has parted ways with that shit show they try to pass off as a rescue. In addition, half the name that he was claimed to have said in fact wasn’t said….. Moss is more intelligent than they give him credit for and read the situation for what it was. He is a good vet and has never steered us wrong.
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