We are not amused. To be clear, by `we’ I am referring to the royal `we’ although I fully expect that to fly right over most heads. I especially expect it to fly over those of the village idiots, and much ado will be made of nothing as is the usual reaction from them. Anyhow, back to me and my disgust… I was off resting on my laurels figuring the bulk of what I set out to do with HiCaliber was either accomplished or in the works. It’s been kinda nice reclaiming my personal time and not having to have The Manson Family in my thoughts most of my waking hours. Sadly, it seems that HiCaliber will not go quietly into the night and the death throes drag on. That also means that horses are still getting shot for no good reason, lies are being told and, once again, I feel compelled to lay down an update. So, for old times sake and posterity, let’s pull up a chair, pop the cork, twist the cap or whatever and deal with the never ending shit show that is HiCaliber. This is going to hop around a bit today mostly because I can’t be arsed to make things linear and I do what I want. Buckle up!
It seems that Manson has been making an effort to clean up the mountains of manure from the ranch property in recent weeks. The timing is weird, but better late than never. Sadly, this entails loading the manure up and trailering it over to a neighboring property. All this was witnessed by somebody that was visiting the ranch. According to this source they gained access to this property off Calle Oro and through T-posts and rolled up fencing. The property in question has goats and chickens within view of the road. HiCaliber wasn’t being overly secretive or stealth about doing this so perhaps the neighbor is ok with having their diseased waste trucked over to his place. It’s probably better than how they used to just shove it over onto public land. I wonder if the county knows?
That’s right, for the minor sum of only $40 you too can learn breeds, colors and markings from the very same person that thinks horses have back knees and has no clue about how to eyeball a height on an animal. If you’re super lucky, Manson may make a cameo appearance and show us how to find a dorsal stripe by looking underneath a horse or how a foal that does not have black points may shed buckskin.
Not content to spread misinformation on that which can be easily googled, Amanduh continues to teach unsuspecting people to ride as poorly as she does. Apparently proper footwear is optional as is adjusting stirrups to the appropriate lengths. I also learned that riding a dead lame horse was also fine because it’s what he loves it and he is depressed otherwise. I’m sure that standing in a small stall 24/7 while getting eaten alive by flies and choking for water has nothing to do with his depression though. Don’t get me started on the whole `gait regulation’ and how you use your seat by not having it in the saddle. I’m sure glad Amanduh is on the job to tell us what `real’ horsemen do.
I’m sure that anybody that has been following this on any level knows about the Valley Center Western Days Parade clusterfuck that has gone down over the last week. It has caused beans to be flicked on both sides of the fence as nearly everybody has gotten their drama boots on and waded right in. Minor children were bullied and ridiculed, lies were told and all around fuckery ensued. I’m not even going to bother rehashing it all. I think it’s important to put the actual facts out though. The reason why horse people are concerned with HiCaliber being in the parade was the risk to their own horses. Manson may think Strangles is `no big deal’ but most horse people know better.
Here are some screen shots and emails clearly showing there has been an ongoing Strangles issue at HiCaliber for well over a year. It also clearly shows that Manson was not only aware of it but so is her adoption team as they were addressing it in recent contracts. Remember that the initial order from the Western Days committee was that no horse exposed to Strangles within the last 12 months would be allowed to be in the parade. Sadly, knowing the Manson Family, they would have likely worked around that claiming the horses they were riding weren’t exposed and that’s where a lot of the concern was for many people. I know that Manson claims they have `major’ biosecurity measures in place. How does she really even know considering she rarely waltzes her happy ass to the more remote areas of the ranch?
This screenshot was from one of their private groups and was posted about a week ago. One of their regular volunteers described her day at HiCaliber. What I want people to notice is the order of paddocks she visits, clearly admitting to `petting and scratching’ horses as she went around the property. AFTER visiting the QT/Vineyard area, she went to the nursery letting them smell her and petting them, on to North herd where she stopped to pet more and then to South herd and Rivers Run. THIS is just an example of why people do not trust the biosecurity at HiCaliber or want their own horses exposed to HiCaliber horses and it’s valid. What I find saddest of all is that this small community has had to deal with all this drama and complete fuckery when they are just trying to hold a family event.
It’s a real shame things even had to go his far as it is a complete dick move to knowingly spread Strangles or any other disease around. I actually don’t even get what the big fuss about being in the parade is for HiCaliber. Judging by pics of the recent parade they were in and other past performances, it’s not a great advertisment for them or their horses. You have Manson riding horses that are far too small for her, none of them are groomed and even the riders look raggedy. Their time would be far better spent at home grooming and feeding their animals and if they must go in the parade, then walk the route holding a sign or drive the golf carts or something. Just give these poor horses a break because they all look horrible and nobody needs to see Manson doing a 2 point starfish while spilling out of her saddle and sexually harassing anything and everything that crosses her path. For crying out loud it doesn’t even look like they bothered to clean their tack or dust off their boots. I suppose we’re going to have to replay this all again as Manson is planning on riding in the July 14th San Diego Pride Parade despite the fact she has said she plans to close down by June 30th. I’m sure Manson’s criminal defense attorney, Mr. Fancy Socks, will fight for their right to party though.
One of the features of Parade-gate was good ole Mags charging into the middle of things and basically losing her shit. Actually, not basically, completely losing her shit and as of this writing, the meltdown continues. Because the default setting of Mags and the village idiots is to cry `bully’ and point fingers without realizing that every time they do so, three fingers are pointing right back at them, they decided to bully a 14 year old girl that has NOTHING to do with any of the HiCaliber drama beyond a genuine concern about riding her own horse in the parade. When her concerned father stood up for her and brought it right to the source, all hell broke loose and Mags called him a `shitty parent’ for doing so. Given her partner’s past criminal charges to do with his own child, I guess Mags isn’t in a position to judge anybody on their parenting skills. It was also at this point that Mags appears to have lost her tenuous grip on her sanity as she heaved herself up on the cross and played the victim card for all it was worth claiming to be the victim of bullying.
Where do I even start? Margaret, you need to get your money back. Seriously and on all that I hold dear, you are barking up the wrong tree. In fact, the tree your barking up isn’t even in the right time zone. YOU are the bully. You have been told over and over again, you are wrong and you continue to lie about having proof. By all means go to court. I won’t be there, but the people you are targeting as me have a very strong case against you. You have torn people to shreds thinking they are me, you have attempted to discredit me and maligned everything I write. Tit for tat, Mags. Not my fault you self identified when I originally posted a blind item about you. I think a year long temper tantrum is a bit excessive and had you actually hired a PI to find out who I was, that’s boil a bunny level creepy. Your back pedal game is super strong though…BTW the AG investigation, along with the multiple other agencies, is ongoing and Manson has been cleared of nothing.
This one made me laugh. Little hint for Mags though, even wordpress doesn’t have my actual identity. By all means though, go on with your bad self and the court orders and PIs. LOL.
From what I can gather, Mags is not well versed on animal advocacy. She seems to have zero clue who the players are and what people’s credentials actually are. Funny how it’s not bullying when Margaret spreads untruths and mocks people’s misfortunes though. I could tear Mags’s personal advocacy claims to absolute shreds but a) what would be the point? and b) I have too much respect for the sources of my intel. It doesn’t matter anyhow as there is no law that says Mags has to respect TC and there is certainly no law that says anybody has to respect Mags or believe anything she says.
I’m not sure if all this is in order, but Mags made a dramatic post. I can only imagine it was actually put up to inspire people to talk her out of leaving because she hardly even took a break from posting. It was telling that it was mostly village idiots that told her not to go and the racing community remained silent. It was also kinda weird how she went full bully after making this post and really didn’t appreciate having the mirror held up to her own face.
You know what I find funny? I haven’t posted for weeks and she’s still obsessed with me. I think the regular readers here can attest that even my comments have been sporadic and mostly late at night. For sure D can attest that I haven’t been around all that much lately. I also am highly amused given the fact that Mags has posted in private groups about how little my opinion matters and if you want to see screen shots of that along with Mags admitting she really doesn’t know who writes this blog, you can refresh your memory in Writing On The Wall…With Crayons!
Mags didn’t appreciate having her own hypocrisy pointed out to her it seems. It also seems that even what remains of her own friends have tried to point out to her that she’s off on a tangent. If anything, Mags picked up steam after this exchange even though she deleted Abby’s comments.
Here we have anti-bullying warrior Mags bullying people. I’m not sure if she is daring Jennifer to blog about her or she’s daring me, but since I’m the one with a blog and I do love a good dare… I’m not entirely sure what the $100 letter is or why we’re talking bankruptcy but given the fact that Mags’s legal counsel has so far been Angrid, who is not even a member of the California bar, she’s probably not in a position to throw darts here. I’m also not sure how somebody that has to run gofundme campaigns to pay her vet bills and so her partner can buy a used van can afford to hire PIs. Like I said, she needs to get her money back. I have a shitload more screen shots I could post showing Mags bullying people, calling names and lying, but what’s the point? If they haven’t learned by now, I do what I want, I post what I want and if they continue to poke me in the chest, they will continue to get negative attention. Let’s move on.
This is a video where Manson tells another pack of lies. The person she is talking about is Salvador Paniagua. This would be the same guy who she used to refer to as `the worst of the worst’ and has claimed there is a language barrier with. He is a known tripper and the incident with FHR she is referring to is well documented. He showed up at Mike’s auction with 7 completely mangled horses that had been tripped and demanded $250 each for. Rather than pay his ransom, FHR called in AC and they suggested that he take $100 each. It should be noted that none of these horses were in acceptable enough condition to actually be run through auction. Once the horses started being transferred off Salvador’s trailer and it became apparent how bad of shape they were in, FHR offered $600 for all 7 horses just to get them safe and it was accepted. All but two horses were too badly injured to save and after being seen by a real vet, they were humanely euthanized. That is the truth of the situation rather than Manson’s version of events. It’s also what a true rescue and advocate would have done. Manson bought a load of tripped horses off Salvador just this past January and rather than call AC, she arranged to meet him and pay his ransom. She also shot the horses herself rather than letting them see a vet. I should probably mention that Manson and her village idiots mocked FHR and made an issue about them having to put down the 5 horses from Salvador.
Owens Intake February/18
Owens May/18
Owens is one of the pasture puffs awaiting adoption at HiCaliber. As is obvious from the pictures above, he’s losing condition despite Amanduh’s claims he has put on lots of weight. I’m not seeing it.
Before I get onto the last few things, I thought a little comic relief from Ficehole would be appropriate. Now, I’m certainly no computer whiz, but I have noticed that when I google something or look at certain web pages, the ads Facebook shows me usually have something to do with that. I’m guessing it’s something to do with cookies or something. I can also say that Facebook has never shown me drug paraphenalia ads or anything remotely close and that’s probably because I a) don’t do drugs and b) don’t google drugs. The fact that Fice has meth pipes coming up on his feed is both funny and telling. The fact that he’s indignant about it is hilarious.
Nathalie is one of the newer Manson Family members and ranch residents. Manson has mentioned several times that she is from Norway or The Netherlands or some place like that and that she is visiting. Since moving in with Manson it seems she is doing a bit more than visiting and actually acting as a front for flipping Manson’s personal project horses. Buddy the Peruvian Paso is actually the horse Manson bought for herself and promptly named Foreskin. Buddy also seems to have severely dropped pasterns and I’m not sure how any of the HiCaliber gunsels know what `gaiting beautifully’ is when they usually diagnose them as neuro and shoot them in the face when they are gaited. I also recall some other Peruvians who were shot in the head for having dropped pasterns within days of their arrival at HiCaliber. I guess they didn’t figure they could squeeze the last few pennies out of those horses. I’m sure having a rider much top large on him, isn’t helping Buddy with his pastern issues either. It seems Nathalie is also `adopting’ HiCaliber horses and is the new owner of Ryland. I wonder if wheeling, dealing, grifting and working under the table is something her visitor visa allows? Maybe Miss Homeland Security aka Angrid would know.
Remember the $25 `mare’ at auction and the legendary rant that Wrinkles went on? The same horse that turned out to be a gelding and had actually been purchased by an advocate? His name is Don Q and the above pics are of him in his new home. They were taken within the last week or so. Don Q is the one with the one white sock. His buddies are Hickory, who is also blind and came from a hoarding situation in another state, and Sarge who is toothless and ancient and came from FHR. All three horses are living the good life and are very loved. I’m also told that Don Q no longer has shoes on so Wrinkles can stop worrying about that as well. Too bad Manson won’t allow horses to be adopted by `haters’ because this advocate has a fondness for puffs. I hear she likes them even more than she likes blue water bottles.
Manson has put out a few posts saying they are nearly out of hay or they can’t pay for a load that just came. I guess she spent all her money on sending her criminal defesne attorney to meetings to fight for her `constitutional right’ to spread Strangles ride in a parade. While she claims to have adopted out several horses in the past few weeks, her feed bill seems to be about the same. None of the village idiots bother to question that just like they don’t realize that while she is dumping horses right, left and center, she is bringing news ones back to the ranch at nearly the same rate. The only difference is that she’s not telling her village about them or bothering to give them names which makes it all the easier for them to vanish off the face of the earth. Not exactly the actions of somebody that is closing their doors, but more the action of somebody that is transitioning to become a full on flipper. I know I sound like a broken record, but Manson is not going to exit quietly or quickly. Hell, we’ve already passed the window for this to be quick at least a month ago. I guess there is always that one guest that doesn’t know when it’s time to leave the party, right?
When I resurrected this blog, I never thought I’d be here a year later still dealing with this shit. I certainly never wanted to be anybody’s leader or even a point person. I just wanted to get some things off my chest and document what I saw as a trainwreck in the making. I’ve been in this advocacy game for a while and if I know anything, I know it’s far better to head off a trainwreck than clean one up. It’s also nearly impossible to head them off for just the reasons we have seen played out this past week alone. Even though I am in the horse industry and have been my whole life, I know it attracts crazy. Add social media to that mix and you have a whole other level of nuts. What I saw this past week was local horse people genuinely concerned for their own animals and trying to do something about it through proper channels. I also saw several people on both sides of the fence insert themselves into the situation for the sake of drama. It was gross. It’s also not something I wish to participate in. I’m busy in my life and I have zero time for social media flame wars. That being said, I’m not going to drop this issue either. As I have said all along, I will stay the course and see things through. I don’t care who wants to grab credit or be a hero once the dust settles. That was never my goal. I just want to save some horses. Maybe it’s time for some people to ask themselves what they are in this for.
I too seen their posts last night and the first thing that came to mind, was: “At least we know where the money for the Golden carrot is going”. Meaning to the animals and not for herself or her living quarters. Like some people’s does. My Second thought was What a bunch of POS’s posting photos of her place like that and to suggest someone started a fire on purpose for money is just sick. I could never live like that and am sorry she has to, But it’s clear everything goes to those horses and other animals and not anything else, I guess when you are doing it all alone without help, a persons living space comes last. It’s pretty shitty of anyone to badmouth anyone in their time of need. (or anytime really unless it’s needed to draw attention to something wrong).
There used to be a woman down the road from us, who had 2 horses, very old, skinny, basically dying. I tried everything to get her to sell them to me but no they were her babies. So I did everything in my power to help her, by dropping off food, blankets, straw for bedding. Hoping that would help the poor souls a little bit. Then one day the woman turned on me and called the sherffic saying i was trying to claim the horses as my own by doing all this for them. (Trust me i have plenty I don’t need anymore). So I was told to stay away or risk arrest. So it got to stopping on the road and tossing hay over the fence for them as it was the only thing they had to eat. Well shortly after she got all crazy on me she passed, and animal control called me in to see if I would house the horses while they tried to find homes for them. So I agreed. Well then a non horse person who has lived on our road longer then we had decided I was abusing these horses cuz they were overly skinny and looked horrible. No one could make the bitch understand they were the same two horses that used to be down the road. Where was her fucking concern then. My point is people who don’t know what’s going on really should learn to mind their own fucking business unless they are helping, not trying to make something worse or spread lies. BTW she was the same bitch who caused the tax payers a ton of money for reporting someone who was helping a deformed wild animal. Those woman on HC’s and the poop page and all their other pages remind me of that Nosey busybody bitch of a neighbor we have.
They’re the lowest of the low, subhumans. Trying to kick someone when they’re down through no fault of their own. She lost her beloved dogs and her home with all her contents. What kind of people cackle and make jokes about a situation like that? Casey puts the animals before herself. She wasn’t heavily skimming from her donations so she was able to live in a grand house unlike others we know. Talking to you M. Her animals were well cared for and loved. To post photos like that under the guise of feigning sympathy is disgusting. The purpose of those photos was to humiliate and judge. Screenshot and dissect if you want you lowlifes. IDGAF.
Well; here I am trying to find a glimmer of something positive.
I noticed that there seems to be a lot less ‘flies’ being attracted to that particular page, recently. Whatever they are doing; cough, cough; it’s definitely working wonders on killing off their ‘flies’. Pretty much just bugging themselves at this point!
I understand everybody’s need to vent. The accusations and behavior coming from some corners are pretty gross. I’ve done my venting too with their racist remarks, but time to tuck it back in folks. Not a single one of those people have any respect or place in the horse community. Consider the source. No more attention for the turdflingers and their head racist.
I don’t care where or how she lives. I know her horses are LOVED and cared for and happy because they are secure. The heart is what makes a rescue. The black hearted shriveled prunes “that” crowd of ass barnacles have in their self thumping chests might know a little of that – they have memorized it when trying to scam a dollar from a trusting public.
They must be taking a page from SB County’s book–but in my opinion, it will only be effective if they get off their asses and do something, and not claim that there is a conflict of interest with someone like M. What happened to Johnny Cade should NEVER have happened. They should have been out there demanding to see vet records and speaking to the vets she claims were treating him to ensure that he was getting adequate care. No, most horses at the ranch will not get a conviction, because they are a rescue–but in that case it was clear evidence of breaking the law by lying as well as committing fraud.
I full agree and in poor Johnny Cade’s sad, young life this is too late. I wonder with the current investigations into HiCaliber if the local animal agencies are feeling any heat? They could have interceded and made a difference instead of crying conflict of interest.
Part of me wonders if that is responsible for why they are doing it. The SB Animal Cruelty Task Force appears to be very on top of things, and the public outcry and continued correspondence regarding the lack of action taken by Dan DeSousa and others of his office might have been enough for them to consider doing it.
That had crossed my mind as well. They shouldn’t have to create a special task force to do their jobs but hopefully they will get individuals on the team willing to make a difference.
I am of the opinion (and Shed had made some allusions in the past to this) that the conflict of interest is a two-fold issue.
First of all her charges would be coming from an entity that she had sued, therefore she could scream that it was all due to retribution.
Second I believe there was more to M & DeSouza’s relationship than merely work related which word lead to M screaming about sexual harassment
I thought she was denied disability but only threatened to sue. I’ve always wondered what the deal was with Lieutenant Dan. My mind just can’t go there right now. Yucky!
Of a sexual predator or her lies and manipulations? Stranger things in have happened. He could have saved his BS letters he sent out that chose to only address what he felt like covering. I would feel bad for him having to deal with the situation but he hasn’t dealt with it.
I’ve always wondered about that case for sexual harassment for which she previously sued. Do you suppose those people ever see her videos and wonder if they could get their money back?
I would find it funny if they could go back to court and say look at all the material that came to light. I think they settled just to get her to shut up and go away instead of dealing with a protracted situation.
I agree. I also think that it needs to be made up of people other than their local HS since they have been proven to be completely ineffective in this case.
that ‘conflict of interest” claim is BS. Manson worked there 8 years ago, there’s clearly something deeper to her relationship w/ SDAS. And why was Kat never questioned?
The timing of this and HiCaliber’s change in auction tactics is directly related as is Manson dragging Mr. Fancy Socks to auction with her a month or so ago.
Sickofscams, that’s what I’ve always thought. As a result she feels impunity in every act she does. Oh but the time is coming. The CA AG doesn’t have any conflicts of interest. How’s the panic meter M? Going in the red pretty consistently?
I don’t care for Lt. Dan. He failed the horses by hiding behind the conflict of interest bs. He could have taken another action as seriously, there had to be tons of complaints, valid complaints. I thought that M’s sexual harrassment lawsuit had something to do with CSSM? Was she a campus foot patrol or something? I’m not sure so bring on the info. Ironic that it was a sexual harassment lawsuit considering M and her inappropriate behavior. She can be sued even though she is a non profit. Not sure why she doesn’t think the rules don’t apply to her, but she could be sued big time for all of the innuendos, foul language, vulgar behavior. I guess her pot is different than the pot she sued in her eyes.
I don’t buy the recent write up on Elliot. If a vet truly did examine this horse and determine there was a nuero issue, them the vet would also state no riding as it is a serious safety concern. Monitored under saddle does not remove the safety concern. Does M think everyone is buying her continued lies, unless of course she is referring to herself as the vet that did the exam.
They seem to have a lot of faux neuro diagnostics going on. I think that’s the 30% vet’s catchall diagnosis when she doesn’t know know WTF she’s looking at, which also seems to be every time a horse isn’t fall down and obviously 3 legged lame on the front end.
I agree. They should not be riding the horse at all if neuro came out of a vets mouth or one suspects it until a complete diagnosis by a licensed vet occurs. Of course that never happened as that’s not how HiKillaber rolls. Why continue to bring more horses in? Why isn’t the county cracking down? This is like a really bad tale of how to get all of the agencies involved and no one can make anything happen, yet the horses still suffer and the scamming continues. It appears that HC has some fresh donors. No one with any sense can comment, so the fresh donors might be awhile before their light bulb illuminates. Too bad for them.
Shedrow I have read every blog and I know this it tiring and not what you want to do with your time but you started this and will see it to the end cause that is who you are you are the voice for the silent ones I cant. Believe they are still open and wish there was more to be done faster to help but sadly there isnt I just want took thank you for keeping it real and being you. Lets hope this game they play will end soon.
One would think that Common Sense would dictate trying to feed the horses you have and not bring anymore in! How many Donate buttons are up now? The clock is ticking.
Surfing around the Internet and see a few $5 Friday’s up. Great to see the outpouring of help for TGC. HC will have their die hard VI but I think people are, and will, seek out other “Reputible” rescues to donate to. Sorry, Michelle, maybe that bus you keep trying to throw other rescues under is doing a U turn.
I certainly hope the authorities that govern that area are watching Michelle and crew very carefully. That the horses are being,fed,watered, and cared for medically. I hope that every horse gets out of there and finds safety and a good life. Michelle will not give up however as I believe she has a mental illness that needs to be treated. She will refuse help I am sure of it. In the meantime the horses and all animals suffer around her and her narcissistic behavior. How many horses as she adopted herself with donor funds? Have receipts been shown of expenses to investigating parties??
Here’s the down and dirty. I hope that Manson gets whats coming to her for dragging these broken horses home and then shooting them.
San Diego County District Attorney Summer Stephan announced today that she is launching the office’s first-ever Animal Cruelty Prosecution Unit, which will provide prosecutorial consistency countywide, investigative support and dedicated expertise for animal abuse cases. We need the community to be our eyes and ears on behalf of animals! To report suspected animal cruelty or neglect, please call our Humane Law Enforcement at 619-243-3466.
I’m sure that’s at least a small part of it. Also HiCaliber’s shadiness has certainly caused some awareness of the tripping and abuses in SoCal. Not that they wanted to shine a spotlight there, but thanks to people standing up and speaking out, advocates quietly working behind the scenes, it no longer can be ignored. I’m so surprised that Manson, who claims to be a domestic violence surivivor (which is a lie), didn’t pick up on animals being a party of the cycle of abuse.
This will also pit Michelle directly against the District Attorney when it comes to animal abuse in San Diego. If Michelle continues to protect abusers then it may very well be she who ends up in the crosshairs of this agency, too. 😉
Well of course; they will continue to protect the supply train of abused and neglected animals! How else do you expect them to rescue pathetic looking creatures that they use and abuse further for fundraising? (That is a rhetorical question). Those poor families’ animals need ‘special help’ that only HiCaliber can deliver aka $$$$ for abused animals. Yes! HiCaliber certainly is a standout when it comes to protection of animal abusers!
They seem to be leaning towards “companion animals” which if in defining this unit that will be their loophole to avoid negligence and abuse to large animals I am saddened. I would love to give these guys a chance to prove that they will do the right thing but I think that I am already slightly disillusioned.
In a perfect world one individual will follow this from start to finish.
Since there is a strong link between animal abuse and violent crimes against people – particularly children and domestic violence – the unit will reside within the DA’s Family Protection Division. The unit will work closely with police, Sheriff’s deputies, Department of Animal Services, animal control officers, the San Diego Humane Society, and others to investigate and prosecute animal cruelty cases vertically (one prosecutor handling the case from beginning to end.)
Dear Lieutenant Dan… Your talent obviously lies in kissing ass and politics. You had an opportunity to be the voice. You dropped the ball.
“The creation of the Animal Cruelty Unit is an important step in holding people accountable for their actions,” said Dan DeSousa, Director of the County of San Diego Department of Animal Services. “Together with the animal control and humane officers, the District Attorney’s Office will now help protect those without a voice, namely the animals in our communities.”
Well, this is interesting and hopefully will prove to be the case when in comes to HiCaliber.
Since 2014, the District Attorney’s Office has prosecuted 248 animal cruelty-related cases, many of which resulted in lengthy prison sentences for defendants with previous criminal histories.
Families and communities are at risk when animal abuse is ignored or unreported alongside family violence.
Deputy District Attorney Karra Reedy has been assigned to lead the unit
I think you have to look at this as a long overdue start. It’s going to take reasonable and level headed people to broaden their scope to large animals. Lt Dan is a waste of time here.
It’s definitely long overdue. Maybe tomorrow I’ll feel reasonable and level headed but today I’m cranky. I’m tired of how people chose to look the other way for so long with HiCaliber but yet can talk about accountability.
This whole shit show is painful to watch and right now I’m just plain old frustrated.
You’re not alone in that. I get frustrated any time there is a cruelty case, especially involving large animals. We just need to keep pushing until ever state recognizes them all as sentient beings like Oregon does.
per articles online about a month ago, SDHS won contract to take over SD Co. animal services effective July 1. So SDAS is downsizing/laying off employees & apparently will only continue work in unincorporated communities.
wonder if Lt.Dan will stay w/ shrinking SDAS or if he’ll get new job @SDHS? Hmm…
Just an opinion, but if any official (Lt. Dan) is not able to adequately perform his job due to entanglements from past behavior … time for that official to seek other employment, and be replaced by someone who will get the job done.
Sounds like it is way, way overdue in this case.
Also why was the Kat person was allowed to continue on the BOD of a questionable organization with incoming complaints? They had to call in another agency to do the job, instead of just severing that employee’s unnecessary connection with the organization getting complaints? Not doing that very simple step was acceptable to someone with county administrative oversight?
Time for a new staff, a far more able and professional one. I mean there is inept government, and then there is this mess. IMO 🙂
Maybe in the long run it will be a good thing if HiCaliber shakes out a few trees, indirectly as it were.
I guess Lieutenant Dan is a more than adequate ass 💋??? There are a few articles floating around the web talking about his great efforts as an officer. I guess he even saved a large number of pit bulls from a terrible situation. Although recently there was an article on euthanasia practices in our animal agencies that didn’t put him in a favorable light.
I haven’t forgotten the hypocrisy behind Kat educating the public on animal hoarders.
I think something has gone on in our local agencies that has caused the checks and balance system to be ineffectual.
This is what you get when you try to send money through Paypal right now–so I don’t believe it is this is their choice due to fees LOL.
“This recipient accepts PayPal payments only through their website. To complete this payment, please go to their website and follow their instructions, or email the recipient for instructions.” (This was using their new address)
So then, you go to the website, and when you attempt to donate money, it says this:
“This recipient is currently unable to receive money.”
What this tells me is one of two things, and probably both.
There was a letter sent about a week and a half ago detailing Michelle’s new practice of adopting rideable horses to herself for 1.00 despite the donors funding the purchase of said horse.
Then there were the other photos discussed, including M attempting to sell her own “project” horses, with an eye towards selling the rideable horses herself later and pocketing the funds.
Of course the letter also detailed the number of horses that she is adopting and paying for their care with donor funds, as she has no outside source of income, with all monies going to her “new” Paypal.
Those letters were sent to a new email address, so there was no way to know if they had gotten to where they were supposed to go, but..this makes me wonder!
We’ve discussed all along that a second freeze could be established on other accounts, and were curious as to why it hadn’t been done. This might be simply that they have finished the investigation of the old accounts and are now ready to start one of the newest, (which means things might be drawing to a close), or a combination of both scenarios above. I am thrilled.
Wouldn’t it be amazing if things were drawing to a close? For whatever the reason it is frozen and they have started new accounts, it seems undeniable that forward progress is being made and HC is just trying to be sneaky again. As if they ever stopped.
Good question, Shed. One would think they have a TON of work to do around there, unless she plans to leave the owner with the mess. Nope, cruising the Internet and off on trail rides without a care in the world. Seems she is still actively looking for a place to move and have her die hard VI follow her. With her reputation, the condition that place is in now, having no jobs it would be another idiot that would lease anything to her. She has a history on the Escondido property and not a good one. She has to be stockpiling money, no other way for her, and the animals she has collected, to survive. Add the other freeloaders. My concern is WTH isn’t what she is doing being monitored??
I am laughing and remembering those two agencies out there to ask her questions and there comments at the end.
“We might end up on TMZ cause she is and internet celebrity or something.”
This is truly proof that she believes herself to be an internet celebrity of some sort, while I just keep thinking of the high end escort services who plaster their services on Craigslist. “I can be your girlfriend, your friend, whatever you’d like, paying just a small fee for companionship.”
ha! Amazing too is there’s 6 trail-rides up for sale on that site (and 6 dinners). They actually think 6 people will pay $1000 each to ride w/ Manson. Wow.
For $1,000 I could fly myself, two kids round trip to WA State and ride horses for an hour on the beach for $20 each person. Wait I’m lying, I wouldn’t have to pay to ride but it would be a great vacation!!
They are reaching with those fundraisers of dinner or a trail ride. The couldn’t pay me to do attend a dinner or a trail ride with either of those barnacles.
First of all, do they really think they are all of that and a bag of chips too? They must think they are really famous in a good way or something.
To M because I know you read this blog.
Uh, no your donations are down due to scamming, misappropriation of funds, killing horses, neglecting horses, lying, fraud, and so much more. It’s not the volunteers fault or the haters fault or anyone else’s fault except yours. It starts at the top. Start acting like a CEO and take accountability for your failures because they are your failures. If the animals were cared for and not being neglected in any way, no one would have caught on to your scam, but along with the lies, it was quite obvious to most people that you, M, were and are continuing to run a scam and using the horses to do so.
You keep blaming everyone else. Anyone who is a responsible adult has already learned to take accountability for their own actions by the time they are at your age in life. Long before your age actually. People that blame other people for everything that is wrong in their life have problems, real problems. Stop blaming everyone else. Close already. The horses all deserve to be rescued from the rescue.
Oh Good Grief, just who do they think they are that anyone would pay anything to eat dinner with them or go on a trail ride with them. They must really think they are Speciallllll!
“A prostitute by any other name is still just a prostitute.”
My apologies to the immortal rose for which that line was originally meant, but it seemed appropriate to be paraphrased.
On a plus note, sure hope that M hasn’t been using donor funds to pay for her own criminal defense attorney! 😉
I hate starting my day spewing my ciffee! She is driving that bus again, straight at the Volunteers. Another avenue to donate to at no fee? Gotta love Izabelle
I just donated through the text and it made me select a fee amount to help the process and so I chose .05 and continued and the final amount added 1.39 to my donation of 20.00, so there is a FEE, what’s up with that! and how it became that much I have no idea because I chose $0.05. When I would use the PayPal I had the option to do it with no fee at all.
You would think the followers/donors would get a clue. If an org has to continually change their fundraising- scam tactics, it might be a red flag. No, it is a big red flag with sirens blaring. Sorry Izabelle, but you and so many others are being played.
After seeing these recent comments I had to go look at their FB post. After reading it…how can these people NOT get that this is all spin, deflection and lies?? The VI’s must truly want to be fooled. They believe what they want to hear.
But I’m tickled to see the other PayPal accounts frozen. Absolutely tickled.
I was notified by letter back in April, so is that what she is talking about?
However, regardless of the fee increase, M would not count on donors switching to yet ANOTHER fundraising base, period. Paypal to Venmo–and after using her Venmo to track her purchases, I would never use that site, ever–to new paypals to this attempt now. She would leave that Paypal open (if she had been left a choice in the matter) in order to allow donors comfortable with that format to continue sending in money.
You are correct in her spewing BS again in an attempt to cover the fact that she really is in trouble and that the government is really not done with her. They have just begun.
I would say, it’s likely her paypal got shut down or was frozen, But you would think that would be public knowledge.. And I believe Venmo is owned and offered by paypal which would shut that down also.
Venmo was shut down on the first round, too LOL.
I was just reading all of the village idiots explaining to a newcomer as to why all of the “lies and harassment” are occurring. it occurs to ME that they really are as dense as a box of rocks.
Michelle, you know they aren’t lies. The only harassment is because we speak the truth and brought it many of your actions to horses, as well as other innocent animals, into the light.
We see you.
The Attorney general and other agencies–they see you, too.
So what will you tell them when the charges are filed? That we called the Attorney General office on the “hater hotline,” and got them to trump charges up against you? That all of the evidence has been fabricated? I wish we could make you pay for all of the deaths of animals for which you are responsible–but failing that, we will make you pay for other illegal actions and the lifestyle you have given yourself based upon the donations and goodwill of others.
We will continue to report every underhanded action that we see, and you make it very easy to do so. We will continue to do so up to and until the final charges have been filed. Rather than calling it harassment, perhaps you ought to own up to the fact that many, many of your actions have been illegal and the law is still being broken today, as well as the express wishes of the agencies who have already spoken to you.
Read it and weep.
Agree! I think their PP accounts are frozen and they are throwing anything out there hoping something will stick. Amazes me that so many VI are still falling for this BS. For one thing, why is HC the only rescue that has multiple accounts and keeps changing accounts? Other non-profits, or charities, I donate to aren’t changing stuff up on a regular basis. You can bet, if they were, that would make me suspicious and I would not be letting go of my money until I did some double-checking.
HC won’t be able to use a Gofundme either…GFM just took over Youcaring to combine as one…and GFM uses PP’s Giving Fund to distribute payments to charitable orgs.
That’s funny.
What is even funnier is if she trusts one of her minions to set up a GFM for them enough–which would result in the minion getting pulled into it by acting as anything to do with HiCal’s finances and acting in a fiduciary capacity.
The thing with the VI’s as a group, they have all effectively passed through a filter that screens out certain kinds of people and lets certain kinds of people through. Based on a willingness to follow follow follow, anywhere.
So on the one hand they have bred the most compliant and obedient group that anyone could imagine. On the other hand, it’s a group that is stone cold useless in a crisis. And doesn’t know squat about horses.
She blamed volunteers for making it ‘almost impossible to adopt horses’.
Really? For two years? You didn’t notice the horses piling up? Unbelievable. Aren’t YOU in charge?
You always say they are ‘your’ horses. It’s ‘your’ rescue. Guess what? Everything you chose to do or not do; is ‘your’ responsibility. Trying to pass the buck to the volunteers is total BS. Newsflash.
I keep saying it, but I’ll say it again, the reason former adoption teams couldn’t move horses out is her constant interference with the process. Even know she’s still interfering and helping herself to horses for $1 that would normally be snapped up. I know for a fact there is very little if any follow up on the horses that are `flying out the door’ as well. They aren’t all in good or forever homes.
Of course she has been hand picking her own prospects for flipping. Nothing new.
What’s ironic is the first red flag for me back in early 2015; was the numbers of ‘adoptions’ they used to brag about on FB. There was no way those were legit adoptions numbers in 2015. Newsflash sending horses out to other groups is not adoption. Neither is euthanasia.
Just like now. Just shuffling off horses to all takers. What a cluster. It’s either all or nothing with these people. Very bipolar.
Well except for ‘haters’. Haters ain’t getting nothing. No love for haters. Too bad so sad. Lots of horses might land softly.
Is she still tooling around in the BMW paid for with donors money or has she turned it in? Yet? Being donations are down. Doesn’t she have a truck?
Considering Michelle has worked as a paid hauler, and has apparently used the truck/trailer donated to the 501c3 to earn money for herself alone by hauling, isn’t that such a blatant misuse of the 501c3 as to make it virtually invalid? I’m looking forward to finding out.
If she declares it, and they are aware of it, she will be made responsible to pay the back taxes on it.
The question is–we know she lies, so how honest will she be about reporting it? I think she is stupid enough to tell them that she pays herself for hauling so that she has “income,” and then they will nail her on that, as well.
Doesn’t she need a DOT number if she’s getting paid to haul? I wonder if Bang Bang Becky might still be on the hook for her part of things and her paid hauls?
If she tries to explain away her cash withdrawals as hauling fees for herself and Becky, yes. However–she would have to specifically claim it as such. on the other hand, if she doesn’t claim it, then she has unexplained cash withdrawals being made to the tune of several thousand a week on occasion. Sort of a tight situation.
As for the hauling laws–I am not up on those. I know the SD Sheriff’s office asked about it when we first made contact and I told him I couldn’t answer anything to do with that because I didn’t know.
The truck was always here from what I understand. Richie Price donated the trailer but she registered it under her own name so probably plans to keep it when it’s all done. Hopefully, Richie didn’t take a tax deduction for it or he’s going to find people combing through his books as well.
1. Blaming volunteers for the short comings of the BOD
2. Always placing your own needs over the horses in your care. **Hope you enjoyed your Mexican meal and margaritas while the horses stand tied in the hot trailer.
3. Posting the above on FB in posts and videos because ‘we’re not your bitch’!
I’m pretty sure they don’t have Auction Tuesday, Fri or Sat Night Special phone calls from families in need of someone to euth their horse and other crazy unbelievable made up lies to grift for funds in Las Colinas, but hey, give M a minute, I’m sure she’ll come up with some way to scam the system.
I don’t know whether to feel sorry for the connected barnacles or not. Are they really that naive to believe that HC is not in a serious legal mess right now? They are complicit and the horses do deserve their justice, but do the barnacles not realize that M will turn on them in a moment to cut a deal when it is time? I can’t wait for them to be charged and the scammers will get their day in court. Tick Tock.
The die-hard barnacles are just a vile and complicit in perpetuating the con and animal abuse as Manson. They have aided and abetted, profited and plotted by Michelle’s side. Let their names be included on any and all legal indictment documents and may punishments be handed out to them as well. Some of the die-hard, inside villagers who have profited should also be made to face charges (even though they will probably slip free).
After watching Wrinkles double dip and talk with food in her mouth I have no sympathy at all. Add that to Romney Faye’s disgusting table manners and Manson’s almost slurred speech and I’m pretty much off my feed for the next several days. Who would pay $500 to experience that first hand? So gross.
that chip/margarita live was repulsive, at least the guacamole was eaten on a table this time. Funny how Manson said she & Wrinkles had some new ideas “after church” (a.k.a. smoking something).
after live, bet Manson asked the waitress for crayons, so they could get creative & then drive a trailer full of hot/thirsty horses back to Shit Mountain.
oh to have a cop pull Manson over drunk driving w/ a trailer load of horses…
Unless they have something else going on, does not look like the Save a Horse fund raiser is going up much. The horses have to eat but I think many are very leery of donating, me included. Unbelievable the way this organization was run and there was no cushion set aside, for whatever money might be needed for. Shit happens.
Many of us have no problems donating directly to the feed bill despite her claims that her hay people are harassed. Not one of us would be willing to donate to her, period. She forgets that many of us have seen her bank statements. We know where the money goes and it isn’t to the horses first, despite her claims to the contrary.
Pretty much every former volunteer has stated they were never harassed and that was not why they left HiCaliber. I don’t know of anybody that would harass their feed suppliers.
I do not get why folks are worried about the horses eating – if she did adopt 55 horses – we know what she charged, going rate 1000 or better. She should have enough hay bought for a year.
Also I would not be surprised if they made more money than they are declaring on the tax forms. And yet they never have a thin dime, to hear them tell it. No horse emergency fund. No cushion to get them through a soft month. The horses seem to be last on the funds disbursement list.
The fact they keep changing fundraising platforms is sketchy AF. Paypal is well known and universally trusted as being fairly secure. Who would voluntarily shut their paypals down?
Yeah because being responsible was not part of the get rich quick scheme. I mean part of the please help and send all your money to save these horses from being slaughtered. Or send all your money hurry to save these sad broken up horses the owners neglected but cannot afford euthanasia. All the while my friends and I live high on the hog. Your hog! Oink. Oink. All the way home.
Given HC is in their usual state of financial collapse whenever the PTB mess with their accounts, and that HC is bleeding experienced volunteers … is there a watch on the horses that will alert us if the horses are suddenly going short of food? (More short than now?) This could go very bad in a hurry if they actually do run out of feed and hay. Will we know? Will SDAC know, will they take immediate action?
There is money someplace or some places. Just watched most of the video of them eating and having drinks (are horses standing in a hot trailer again?). Nice dinner conversation, but typical and scrolled on by. Hair is done, nails done, lashes intact. Where are the kids M spends her Sunday’s with? They are supposed to close on the 30th? I would be busy as heck just trying to pack my house up much less a ranch. Maybe I would be looking for a job. Maybe I would be feeding, watering and mucking. Maybe she has no intention of leaving until she is kicked out. Please, Michelle, and your line up of scammers, cross that stream and ride far into the sunset and may no horses cross your path.
From what I understand, a lot of furniture in her house belongs to the property owner. I’m sure it’s thoroughly trashed and soaked with pet urine, but she doesn’t own much legitimately from my understanding. Also, you have to listen to her wording carefully. She plans to shut HiCaliber down on the 30th but has said nothing about actually moving or closing the 501c3. It’s all smelling like a big scam.
I don’t know how any of you can listen and/or watch the vids. I can’t. I hope the AG and the IRS will be helping her along with the correct, undeniable wording soon. Handcuffs, charges, arraignments, court dates… Ahhhh I look forward to the lack of HC crap other than them getting justice.
She said before she was going to keep her 501c3. Hard to believe that can happen. Even if she did, her reputation and bad press us out there on the Internet now and there will be eyes on her.
D, have discussed this with a chance couple of people. I agree that I am hoping charges are brought against all of then involved in this scam. If they don’t get jail time and heavy fines, I at least they are put on Probation and monitored fir a loooong time.
Well, it’s Tuesday and, true to form, HC is asking for donations for a horse with melanomas. I actually see a couple of VI questioning that and actually suggesting they actually concentrate on buying hay!! What a novel idea. Sorry, M, anyone paying attention knows it is NOT your decision to close. How many stories is she going to spin? Not much is sticking. Well, they’re always have poor Izabelle.
exactly, they claim to need more hay & still haven’t paid off the last load. But now they want $700+ to shoot the cancer-mare to save her from MX rodeo? Please.
someone from Equine Welfare Soc.posted on HC that they will help w/ euth costs & to please PM her…of course HC ignored her.
Manson also could have easily called AC & sent them to this horses’ home to surrender the horse or offer assistance w/vet euth. etc.
HC refuses to see what everyone else sees: they are not needed, nor will they be missed.
They can’t see it because they’re too busy sittin’ round in a circle together, eating nacho’s and singing “The Cups Song”.
I saw someone on FB posting about Robin stating on Live, in the restaurant, the reason HC’s and all their personal PayPal acct’s were shiut down was due to a TOS violation accepting friends and family payments. Ermmm I don’t buy that. You can’t control how people send you money. If you actually read the PayPay rules and regulations, it says as a business entity you can not INSTRUCT people to send you money via friends and family as a business entity (non profits included). It’s a no no and at Paypal’s Discretion to shut your shit down. More like a slap on the wrist as they still want their money too.
But really, it’s the whole under investigation by Government entities, while your accounts are frozen and creating new accounts and having friends create new accounts attached to their own personal accounts FBO of the same organization (HC) with frozen accounts. It’s super duper shady and according to PayPal’s own published rules, reason to shut all accounts down.
So in conclusion: Not going to miss you when you’re gone, HC still shady AF, Robin still lying (conveniently caught on live), Terrible Tuesday: Fools and their money are soon parted.
I’m still stuck on the fact that one person commented how sad it was that the horse was standing in a “mountain of crap.” It’s absolutely fascinating to me how a HC follower can see too much poop in someone else’s photo, but yet cannot recognize the same poop (if not more) in a HC photo. This is a very interesting phenomenon. I wish I was some sort of psychology type because the HC village must just be a playground for studies of odd social behavior in humans.
Today I voted to keep Xavier in office. It was CA state primary elections. I thought of you Shedrow. He kicks butt as Attorney General. He needs to stay in office to kick some more butt. Thought you might appreciate this.
Does anyone else think it I s in extremely poor taste to beg for donations for hay, vet and farrier so the horses do not go without yet they still continue to beg for additional horses for euth or other needs? This is why HC failed. Ongoing piss poor decision making all in the name of greed. No other reason except the M is not a business savvy person, but she is a scamming savvy person. Even the followers get this basic concept. They can’t keep throwing $ at the never ending closing story. Get a clue M. Your song is over.
Over a short amount of time, HC and their spiffy FB from afar admin’s kicked their own arses by blocking pretty much most viable, legit money donors due to their own bloated ego’s for asking simple questions, not even”hater” stuff.
I see it in bad taste for them to be begging for money while eating out and guzzling drinks while none of them have a job. Well, I guess Jonathan has a job, but I’m sure he isn’t picking up the tab. Can’t the village see that this is on their dime too?
The one volunteer who sat down at the end picked up the tab apparently. This time. Most times it’s donations that would pay for things because M would have considered it rescue business to go on a trail ride with her buddies.
Based on some comments Michelle has made in the past to now former volunteers I wonder if she’s been tucking away money meant for the nonprofit and the horses in need. Its pretty astonishing that according to their 2016 990s they took in a million dollars but ended the year with just around $10k in the bank. We won’t know exactly where all of that money went until the investigations are complete but I wonder if she has been squirreling away money from the beginning. Michelle has mentioned borrowing money from her daughter and the need to replace it. Based on her past history she doesn’t seem to be very good with money but it wouldn’t surprise me if she does in fact have a good bit hidden somewhere. If that’s the case I hope the agencies investigating catch wind of and find it so she doesn’t continue to benefit from her dishonesty once all of this is over with.
I’m not sure what happened to the rest of the comment so here it is again:
Something else that has me curious is how the government might handle the money situation after this is all over. Could she be ordered to repay all the money she’s taken? If that’s the case there likely won’t BE a HiCaliber once this is said and done so where would the money go?
Its almost laughable that she still claims she’s done nothing wrong and that she continues to lie about the status of the investigations. She tries to project this image of a person who is unfazed by all of it but I can’t help but wonder if its an act to convince the villagers nothing is wrong and that its business as usual. If I were her I’d be beside myself watching all this unravel. They’re scrambling to raise money since their PP accounts have been frozen. Based in the steady drop in likes and comments they seem to have lost a massive amount of support over the past few weeks. The constant change of fundraising platforms should’ve been a huge red flag to anyone still donating but many of them seemed to ignore those warning signs.
She doesn’t strike me as the type that is capable of squirreling away the money. She would just spend it. And spend it… and have little to nothing to show for it. Oh I’m quite certain she has siphoned off a ton of money for her and her cronies to live on…but I just doubt that she has it hidden away. She’s not that clever.
Oh I think there is a stash of cash someplace. M is not acting like she wil be destitute anything soon. She just keeps the scam stories coming as she will try to grab as much as she can until she is handcuffed and locked up. I do hope the state of CA will go after her for fraud if she has taken any money in assistance or medical benefits. I know the IRS doesn’t play with fraud or tax evasion. Those things are what will get you locked up.
Also, in her last fictional plea of a post, did anyone else catch that she mentioned rent as one of the costs going forward? This irritates me to no end. I know many rescues and not one has their human residences paid for by donations. M might say well that is just good business, but hey, she wasn’t keeping up with the rent, the property or adequately caring for the horses with a greater than a $1M/ year budget so how anyone would fall for her lies on the next property is beyond me. The entitlement factor is beyond belief.
I truly believe that the non profit organizations need better and more consistent oversight because of the exact situation with HC. It would not have been able to go on this long if oversight was in place as we all know that the agencies set up to protect animals isn’t working as they always seem to only get involved when it’s too late for the animals.
How M appears on live feeds is very different from how she is behind closed doors. For starters, she appeared sedated on that last live feed the way she was half slurring and laying on the table. I’ve been told she is freaking out behind closed doors and she’s not that nice to anybody when the cameras are off.
Totally agree, AG. Stashing cash and probably taking, or getting, what she needs for her own horses. I missed the rent comment as I often can’t sit and listen to the blabber but it is usually about the same script. It just makes sense that Donor dollars have been paying their expenses as most have no incomes! The “personal” upkeep does not come cheap! Not only her, but her fluid BOD can be held responsible and I think Dr. Grove realized that early on. I have said that from the beginning, because I have seen it happen, there was no oversight as to the handling of that money. Amazing how they don’t seem to have a care in the world. If not for the dedicated Volunteers, past and present, she keeps throwing under the bus, how much care does anyone think those horses woukd be getting? This push for showcasing horses and all these adoptions are due to the hard work of those left that are doing it for the horses. Someone said, M has alienated and blocked so many people that were her supporters the funds just are not coming in. Well, she did it to herself. She and Romney (don’t forget RFB) have created this mess and expect the VI to clean it up. Maybe some good will come of this and people will wake up and start to support the Reputible rescues out there. This is a perfect example of how a non-profit should be run. Looks like some are actually waking up.
Even if their donors don’t move on to support other rescues I still think that other rescues will be better off without having such a shit show like HiCaliber enabled moving forward. It’s going to take awhile to set things right in the SoCal rescue community and for those other rescues to really highlight the good work they do. It won’t be as dramatic as all these flippers just happening to have mangled horses every Tuesday and all these poor non-English speaking families falling on hard times, but it will be real rescue.
Time2WakeUp, yes, the rent comment was embedded in a post referring to a smaller place to run the scam still requiring rent etc. via donations, (Paraphrasing). I can’t watch the vids. The voice of RFB is as irritating as M and her lie hole. I have zero respect for any of them. And really, a volunteer arrived and paid for their meal? Who would have paid if the volunteer didn’t show up? The donors that still think they are doing good when all they are doing is enabling the am to continue even if it’s on two broken wheels at this point.
We all know that M and her barnacles had all expenses paid to feed and care for their own horses on the donor dollars wgich is also misuse of funds.
It’s ironic that M thinks she is a famous celebrity. Doesn’t she know that a real famous celebrity would pay for their own meal and probably yours too? Not expected, but it happens at times. And when I say pay for their own meal, I mean with their own hard earned money, not donor funds. I don’t care how many ways M wants to justify eating and drinking on donor funds, it was abused and is still being abused.
Shed, that actually makes me a bit joyful that she is squirming a bit and I’m not sorry about that at all. She deserves whatever dish gets served to her. I think about the horses she has hurt, neglected and killed in the name of rescue and it sickens me to think she has no conscious. Tick Tock M. Time’s a comin’
I actually don’t think she’s sitting on a nest egg. I think she thought she had a money tree and spent like a drunken sailor on shore leave. I don’t think Manson is all that smart at all when it comes to managing money.
I don’t think she is good at managing anything except managing to scheme and scam well meaning people out of their time and money. She is successful at that!
Since a lot of you seem to know the other rescues out there, have you heard from them about being contacted to take this last horse? Michelle said she gave out contact numbers and referred them to other groups. I know, I know, she lies, but just covering all bases.
Not to mention; there is one rescue in that general vacinity that has an Hispanic trainer on staff. Oophs there goes the we are the ONLY group the Spanish speakers come to for help BS. Plus, Spanish is a very common second language taught in most public secondary schools ( junior high and high school) in the state of CA. That doesn’t make all those students fluent but many can communicate at a basic level.
Even years later! Boom; there it goes! Another big fat on going lie, crushed. You are welcome.
Michelle doesn’t even speak Spanish herself beyond `Dame veinte dólares por mi ropa interior maloliente’, so not exactly sure how she plans on being the voice for the hispanic community.
Your on a roll! I thought you were talking about her looking for an interior decorator but I googled to make sure. I think I’m glad I did??? It was definitely a good laugh!
Have asked a couple and they had not been contacted. Of course, there is the “List” of rescues that used to help HC and doubt they were called. Although, they have made it clear they will not deal with flippers. More bridges burned.
I figured so much. I cannot imagine her giving a horse a chance with a real rescue. But since some of the village reads here it needs to put out there.
Now she’s threatening to start shooting horses if the VIs don’t raise the hay funds.. because the HS might kill them? I hope the powers that be see this.
What I want to know, is if she starts shooting horses, is she going to have the bodies removed or is she going to bail and leave the dead bodies? To remove them costs money.
A lot of the villagers, in their defense, were questioning and their comments were being deleted as we were reading them. One girl had donated hundreds and fostered for them and they deleted her so fast it wasn’t even funny. At least those people should know the truth now, but like us, can’t say a word anymore.
Michelle is now saying they don’t have enough hay to feed the horses on hand, so send cash now or she’ll have to shoot them.
She doesn’t want the Humane Society involved because they will “euthanize all the pasture puffs.”
No option to give directly to the hay supplier, naturally. So, give her money or the horses die. If the Humane Society gets them, they’ll die. Only cash can save them now!!!1!!
that is nuts. VI’s are even posting HC should give hay guy’s info to pay direct, but of course HC says he’ll get harassed.
VI posted (something like) “not true. I called him & he says he has never been harassed. He’s very nice & will accept a check or bank transfer, so I sent him a check”
Since Michelle says they have been adopting out so many horses in the last month(?), where is that money? Shouldn’t that income go to the horses left there? Plus just yesterday she was begging for fly masks.
I did see the villager post about donating to the hay supplier, another suggested sending payment to feed stores in the area so the hay could be picked up, and another brave soul questioned why it would be bad for the HS to euth via vet instead of Michelle and her trusty bullets. Of course those posts were ignored.
Send her money…or she will start killing horses. FFS. I dearly hope the Humane Society or authorities can step in now that she has declared their inability to afford hay and horses will be shot. I would love for it to be her own posted words that hasten the end.
She claims 50+ adoptions…those fees should have purchased some hay. Assuming those were legit adoptions and not some shady underhanded horse trading.
How about a yard sale M? You could sell off some things to pay for hay. Like the sling, saddles, tack, BMW, trailer, Truck…you know…stuff that belongs to the rescue that you won’t need when you close at the end of the month…
Here is the link to the Attorney General if anyone would like to file a complaint regarding M threatening to shoot horses purchased with donor funds. These are horses for which a vet has not recommended euthanasia.
Thank you for posting this while I have been mostly offline, RIP Thomas!
If I can make a suggestion, there are other things that I know others screenshot that needs to be included, such as a post a while back where it was mentioned that the HS had offered to help with hay, too.
She had also made a comment on that deleted thread about “how hard it was to make that post.” which shows that she was fully aware of the ramifications as to what she was saying.
These entire things also needs to go to the CVMB, as well, showing the threat of needless euthanasia for animals that she does not own. Don’t forget that both agencies are working together since the order came down that the horses are owned by the public and not Michelle. It will take me a while to go find that email address again and when I do, I will post it.
I think the girls trying to adopt these horses out are doing a fantastic job! Not them in particular, but what should have been done all along. It is well known, from reliable sources, that M has thwarted many adoptions and offers of Sancturary. People now expect all these other rescues to step up and clean up her mess. Most actually run on budgets, don’t take in more then they can afford and most are at capacity themselves. If she loses her 501c3, which, one would hope, is likely, she cannot just start selling stuff that belong to the rescue, not her. I will try to find those again. She doesn’t seem all that concerned. I am questioning this June 30th date. Do the horses just have to be out of there or the residents also?
June 30th is just a date she set. She doesn’t have to abide by it and probably won’t if she can find a money stream to keep her hoarding habit going. She’s not planning on leaving that ranch until she is forced to, whether HiCaliber is active or not
HC & VI quickly forgot about melanoma-mare sold to the ‘MX rodeo’. They pilfered minimum $827 off of her ($330 on FB + $497 on better-unite). She seems to have vaporized like so many others…wonder if she even lives/lived in CA.
Have been watching that too. There have been requests for updates that are going unanswered. Oh, missed the $497! So, was she euthanized or is that in somebody’s pocket? Someone ask, if you can.
Well the Idiot of the Day award goes to……drum roll……Catherine Thompson-Cronin. OMG she must drink a gallon of HiKill Koolaide a day. She is one of their staunchest supporters and prolific posters.
If HiKill says it so it must be true, here is one of her recent posts, “Oh ok HiCaliber doesn’t have real vets ..really im sorry but on the HG page it’s clear they do”
She is also down for the whole “Haters” gig that Manson preaches. she is blaming the Haters for HiKill not having hay to feed the horses. Oh Catherine, you need and intervention, whatever will you do when you don’t have HiKill to live vicariously through.
She is a nasty, nasty one. Everything is the hater’s fault. She has no clue. Don’t these idiots see long-time donors being deleted before their eyes in real time? They still don’t find that suspicious? Imbeciles.
Hard to think it was only a year ago they were raking money in hand over fist with that Louisiana crap. Harder to think how many horses she’s shot in the face or allowed to suffer in the last 12 months.
If they want to know why the rescue horses have no hay, ask how many personal horses of M’s have being fed for years. Ask where M gets the money for her nails, lashes and car payments. Ask who pays the rent there while a bunch of able bodied adults choose not to work for a living. THAT’s why there is no money for hay now.
So she deleted the entire “send me money or I will shoot the horses” post…and now claims it just “sounded” as though it was written by her…but it wasn’t? Oh good grief. Anyone who buys her crawfishing routine is a fool. Authorities included. I suppose I may be forced to listen to her live “explanation”. Unless someone here cares to summarize it?
No name for the person that supposedly wrote that post? Shocking.
And thank you for sparing me the torture of watching those lying bloated lips moving.
she cries when she sees HC sign in her driveway…should she put it in storage or burn it? What should she do w/ her pamphlets?
they’re having water/well probs….so the horses that never get any water still won’t get any…but now Manson & The Remoras won’t get any water either, so she’ll care about that
Apparently we are also all damaged and seeking to rescue in order to fix something? Well darn. I guess I better stop training horses for my local rescue, my life has been far too wonderful, I’m not allowed to help horses! I worked at a place for a while whose owners had a soft spot for hiring ‘project people’ with rough backgrounds. Too many of those makes a mess! And I’m sorry for my facetiousness to those who actually have had some pretty rough times, I’m not trying to minimize the legitimate struggles of the people on this page (some of whom are pretty damn inspiring!) but seriously M! Project much? People have different backgrounds and follow their own individual paths. The biggest difference is that we all came to rescue because we love horses, not because we love money.
I give my time voluntarily to train at our local rescue. Dozens of people give their time to feed day to day, organize projects, move horses, groom, socialize, fund-raise, do paperwork, etc. and not one person gets a dime from it. One board member just purchased a large amount of tack for the rescue. We wanted to find a way to have better tack so that we can properly train and showcase the horses, but the rescue couldn’t afford it. So she responded by just purchasing it and handing it to the rescue. Can anyone even imagine something like that happening at HC? It just can’t compute!
In more fun news…. it was a bit of a quiet live feed for the drinking game. I was shocked that I didn’t hear “exigent” even once. On the other hand “tear each other apart” has officially made the game list. (P.S., “haterz” is not on the list, because that would probably make the game fatal and we don’t want that!! 😉 )
I will say that rescue generally does attract broken people, but that is not to say that everybody involved is that way. You don’t have to be broken to have compassion for other living creatures. For many of us that have made our living in the horse industry, it’s a way to give back and motivated by our love for these animals. Manson should go back to her crayons because the strokes of the brush she’s trying to paint us all with are too broad.
Right. I thought I took a SS of that but didn’t. Anyone get it? If she didn’t put that up, who the hell did? Romney, Amanda? Who else would even feel they would have the authority to make a post like that? I call BS again. Nope, M, that didn’t stick either. On to the next script.
M is trying to put out fires now. She just did a short live where, if I got this right, she didn’t say she was going to euthanize the horses. She said an admin put out the post and she didn’t write it, or authorize it. Must be a pretty big bus she drives to throw so many people under. 🤔 She also said she hasn’t spoke to the HS about the help they offered. She was begging the villagers to stay off the hater, and other groups. As she claims she doesn’t go to the hater groups, yeah right, and only sometimes the drama groups, the village needs to stay away too and their lives will be better. She’s encouraging anyone who was banned recently to message/email her and it can be straightened out. Must have realized they banned a bunch of regular villagers there.
It’s a little late for damage control, Manson should have thought of that before she alienated everyone. She needs to call off her dogs they are not doing her any good either.
The AG, HS or some other entity called her this morning, I’d bet money on it. She can’t shoot horses because she can’t afford feed period. They are not her horses. So much wrong with her lying about the dramatic post she wrote and posted yet denies. She is only fooling herself and the people that continue to enable her.
I would make a list but frankly I’m stumped! So many options to choose from. Where to start? Hmmm…
1. Tell the truth the first time; so you don’t mess up your story. Oh wait…
2. The second time you retell it; make sure to embellish your role. It’s all about YOU! Make sure to drag in pathetic abused horses too which you bought from criminals and look even worse now as they have declined in your ‘care’.
3. The third time you spin; it make sure your hair is purple for distraction from any pesky facts. Wear scrubs to attempt to look officially like a not Veterinarian.
4. Change it up again and blame the entire universe, a forth time. It wasn’t YOUR fault. It never is.
5. Don’t forget to add the ‘poor me’ for maximum returns on spin #5. The universe is against you. It might be the fault of your volunteers. Heaven forbid.
6. The world is flat. That’s your story #6 and anyone with a different opinion is labeled a HATER. The list of haters has become much larger than the flat liners.
7. The seventh spin may involve a cast of misfits trying to spin a poopy fable into anything resembling story #1. Oh wait here we go again!
8. The eighth spin includes actor/actress wannabes wearing loads of cheap black mascara who cry for the camera on demand. Repeat this whenever #1-#7 fails to generate enough donations.
9. The ninth spin involves attempting to intimidate and bully anyone in spin #6 above; that do not worship flat liners.
10. Spin #10. Wash, rinse, repeat. Again and again. So much BS, so little time. Be sure to continue to think highly of your skanky self. It’s all about self importance.
What makes me sick is they talk about those being family horses, and they pride themselves on providing many families with horses but the moment the old guys dead his horses got sold to Thompson’s with papers in hand.
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Gotta love IK. She asks really appropriate questions, unfortunately the answers never quite make sense.
Less horses does mean they need less hay and not to forget, what happens Jun 30?
Another thing M should learn from being the p poor CEO that she is, is never let your followers be the mouth piece for your organization. Not to forget just don’t scam people, commit fraud, embezzlement, tax evasion, practice veterinary medicine without a license and neglect and abuse horses might also be a good place to start.
Does anyone think that HC was able to get their last hay load without cash upon delivery? I don’t think so. I think they paid for their last hay load with cash as required per most hay deliveries as well as the idea that everyone on the planet knows that HC’s donations are down and they are closing or so they say. Why would a hay company take a chance on not getting paid for a truck load of hay? It’s not the same as 20 bales. That doesn’t make sense. IK is exactly correct in the fact that they should not need as much hay. Jun 30 right around the corner…..Tick Tock…
I think they owed the money. I am thinking they likely didn’t pay for this current load in full either. This is also nothing new. They are constantly in arrears to their various vendors from what I’m told. Let’s see if the Village idiots can rally to pay something like 13k worth of vet bills for past services without actually seeing the bills. Remember last year when they were constantly having these expensive procedures done on horses and always raising money? Wonder how everything all of a sudden got healthier and nothing ever needs surgery any more.
I also remember when they were asking for 7500.00 for hay and claimed that it would last about 2 weeks, and when I placed money down on the bill at the hay supplier, they told me that the cost of the load that they had just delivered was 1230.00.
Do sad to think that the hay supplier must have been lying to you 😢
because we all KNOW that M & Co. would never lie, they are the epitome of transparent.
(Sometimes I literally crack myself up)
Of course, I do believe that post about euthanasia was written by her, due to the fact that she posted later down there that “the post was so hard for her to write,” yada yada yada.
This was priceless. ” While I didn’t author or post it, I understand the voice it was written in sounded like me.”
Um, that’s because it was, and everyone knew it. It was verified within the round of comments when she informs people that the post was so difficult for her to write.
she also said similar verbage in Chiefy post, near the end she wrote if they couldn’t afford to feed them, they’d have to relinquish them to a municipal agency and “that cannot be an option.” The thought of HS taking “her” horses (or seizing them) really miffs her.
Honesty is the best policy, marinate on that Manson. Had you given that more thought your life would be much different now. You could have made a positive difference, but you chose the low road and to abuse good hearted people and crippled sick horses for personal gain. After all that has happened you are still using the same old tired victimization ploy to exhort money. Get a clue, it’s over, finished, good times grifting a thing of the past. Your glory days are a memory, deal with it .
Now that the supporters have been told to stay away from all of the non HC pages they won’t see any other angle than the BS that they are being fed by M
If I were the property owner, I would sue but can’t get blood from a turnip. I have always questioned that lease/option. Seemed like a risky contract to do with a non-profit with no set income or assets. You have to hold the owner somewhat responsible for not having more oversight as to what the hell was going on there. Now, look how that has worked out.
RRR, the y will see it here or on the other pages unless of course the Kool-Aid is in full brew mode. I can’t believe they would ‘follow’ to that extent, but then again I think of Jim Jones.
M certainly has an extremely elevated opinion of her horsemanship skills. It kind of makes me want to see a horse go sideways and see how the big horse whisperer handles it. I don’t see anything in her skill set that makes me think she is even an average skilled horse person. She had very limited skills.
I sprain my eyes I roll them so hard when she starts talking training philosophies and trying to sound all hood about it. No Manson, the horse doesn’t want you to buy him dinner first and no they aren’t your ride or die. I mostly notice how any horse she is riding or handling is not focused on her and none of them seem to show any affection or connection to her. They best I’ve seen is robotic/drugged. Zero natural ability or talent.
She talks a big game though. I wonder what occurred right before the video was recorded with them riding. You get a glimpse of the horse reacting to something at the very beginning. Perhaps reacting to the incoming needle. You can’t tell me all of these horses that she rides have no reaction whatsoever to cars, bikes, etc. Seems a tad bit fishy to me considering the lack of handling at the feedlot.
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Gia Lyn Oh who’s the lucky one that got him? I had a couple friends trying to adopt him, they didn’t get any response:(
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HiCaliber Horse Rescue He was adopted but with the intent of helping him find a home. He will be looking for a home once his abcess heals and the fee will still be going to the rescue. AlphaMare17@yahoo.com
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Gia Lyn ? So he’s adopted but they don’t want him? Or is he being fostered somewhere?
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Gia Lyn I can foster him, and adopt to a permanent home, abscess not a big deal
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HiCaliber Horse Rescue Then please email the alphamare email address. Adoptions do not occur through comments. Please. 😊
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Why would HC say a horse was adopted but with the intent of helping him find a home? I would think if a horse was adopted, that meant the horse had a home. Aren’t they trying to adopt out all of the horses? Or are they just trying to adopt or ‘dump’ the horses they don’t want? I don’t get it. Why the games? Why not just email HC adoptions to adopt a HC horse? Why do you have to email the alpha mare? This is the exact same kind of stuff that got them in trouble. Not doing things on the up and up.
Because I imagine that the plan was for Michelle to be able to adopt most of the rideable horses that she likes in order to flip them herself later with the funding going into her own pocket, assuming that people would be too stupid to figure that out. Most people caught onto it from the get go once she started listing “personal project horses,” and began notifying the AG to let them pursue it if they choose to do so, considering that is yet another textbook case of M using the charitable assets to benefit herself. It will be interesting if the agencies do choose to follow that trail, but truthfully I am not certain that they would.
So yet another horse M adopted that the donors are supporting. I hope she gets nailed to the wall for that too. So much misuse of funds it makes anyone working hard for what they have just want to swat her in the face with a chair. That is a figure of speech for the people that want to say that it is anything else.
Btw, I’ve never seen that persons name come up on the HC page, and it appears as only the last of the die hard regulars are around, so I’m not even sure if it’s not just another one of M’s fake profiles to get a horse some exposure thru non transparent ways.
I question any foster or adoption that goes right to the Alpha Mare. *snort* Adopted with the intent of finding him a new home sounds an awful lot like flipping.
Ya think? Notice that she made it a point to claim that the money will go back into the rescue, which is great–but you already know that wasn’t the original plan because there was no reason to adopt him herself . He would have stayed the property of the rescue and been adopted out there with the funds going directly to where they are supposed to go. She is her own worst enemy in creating a paper trail that can be checked easily enough by the authorities should they choose to do so. I wonder how she would explain that to them if they ask? ooh, maybe if we get lucky we will get a copy of that transcript, as well, so that we can giggle over the answers.
I am just sick of her lying piehole, as we all are! As amusing as it all can be, which is often, I can’t wait for her to be served or hauled away. All her bullshit about putting on a brave face but dying on the inside just makes me angry. So here I sit, pointing out the obvious because the waiting is the hardest part. 😀
That post is made in reference to Braveheart, who has been decidedly absent of late. I sure hope she didn’t take him for a long walk out back and is covering her tracks. No talk of abscesses when they announced his “adoption” weeks ago. Something smells fishy… and it’s not the Craigslist undies.
I do too considering how skinny he was and how ill fitting their tack is. A hoof abscess resolves fairly quickly with proper care in my experience as far as a horse being sound or not.
I still don’t know how Braveheart managed to go over hill and dale, with somewhere around 300 pounds (I’m including the tack) and being underweight. That horse lives up to his name.
*Sidenote*
Speaking of pounds… Has anyone gone to the fair and tried those unicorn cupcakes? They seem to be calling to my inner child.
They do look tasty. I don’t know if your a baker but there is a recipe (it’s not completely from scratch) for wedding cake cupcakes and buttercream frosting. Really tasty and pretty easy!
I don’t need to eat those cupcakes or any other fried foods but at some point I’m gonna!
Wow! Nice find AG! If that’s not super duper obvious of what everyone has been suspecting, I’m not sure what is? M “adopting” from the dollar menu to sell at a later date. I’m just not sure why, when there is so much heat on her, that she would have another horse on that property? She should be financing it’s cost, yet we all know it is being cared for by donor funds.
Well as of this morning they have managed to raise just over the $12,000 hay fundraiser goal.
I’m sure this was due to the fire that was lit by the posted post that was removed the following morning that was not written by Mason or posted by Mason or posted with Masons approval. You know the post that basically stated I’m not going to let the horses starve; so unless you pay up now; I’m going to have no other choice but to start shooting horses.
Mason has been working really really hard on winding down the rescue. So much so she is riding on the beach. Wonder if margaritas were involved. Oh maybe just cocktails for the horses?
And I notice now that they reached the $12000 that there is no mention of it. But before it was reached they were constantly saying how much they were short.
The 12 thousand plus, does not include the mail in donations, Facebook donations and the text donations, she has had the money she is just being a greedy bitch! Also doesn’t include adoption fees she has been getting, albeit some have probably only been 1.00
I saw a ss of a comment on HC (probably long gone now) where the person knew some people who had adopted horses that had received no care and their $1 price somehow ended up in the $300-$550 range.
Not sure of this particular incident, but I know in the case of some horses being returned to their original owners *OTTB/Iwobi* they were `strongly’ encouraged to make a very generous donation before getting their horses back and that’s all I got to say about that 😉
Ass wipes. I can’t wait until the IRS and the AG catch up to her and her barnacles asses. She acts like she’s doing a great thing by advertising horses that she herself did not adequately care for, for a reasonable adoption fee of $1, then has the nerve to play on the potential adopters emotions to increase the adoption fee. Does she realize she is closing? Maybe by her own choice at this point, but the horses need homes, not games. I’ve heard the upmarking game on horses well before she announced she was closing. One of her scamming tools aka bait and switch. That is yet another reason I get peed off when ppl start saying we have to help the horses, yet the biggest hurdle in getting the horses adopted is still the biggest hurdle. Move over M. You’re in your own way.
Are horses still coming in to HC, not shown on FB? It seems most of the drama right now is about what’s being said, rather than the usual parade of hurting horses.
Of course, things seem to change with HC in short cycles. Attention is not allowed to wander.
I wonder if her ‘personal’ horses are being stashed somewhere else? You know for safe keeping. Along with the other residents ‘personal’ horses. That’s like a whole herd of horses! I have no idea the exact number? Shedrow do you know? Or is it a fluid number?
It amazes me that all those people with zero earned income; own horses other people pay for. Talk about entitlement! Owning horses is an expensive privilege; not a right.
That would be nice to send in. I know that a few were named along with the estimated cost of upkeep in order to give the AG an idea opf how much more she is spending to keep the horses that she and the ass barnacles are keeping on donor dollars, plus the prices donors paid in order for M to “adopt” them herself for $1.00, etc. as well as her ads for “personal project horses,” that she was selling on the side, also paid for by donor dollars as well as their upkeep on the ranch. It’s a twisted trail they have to follow. After all, some of them were seen at auction, with pictures of them in the trailers, and no notice of them were ever provided to donors. 😉
They ought to be thanking you for not posting their entire bankruptcy history online, despite it being a public record and online already 😉 Gee, Shed, you’ve proven yourself to be a nicer person than they are !
And for those long distance ones, then they will be lost when M won’t be able to solicit funds on the internet any more. They will simply be forced to keep sending money but won’t be able to mention it because if they do..they can count on it being seen somewhere and reported with additional charges following. Pennsylvania was big on that and asked many of the people involved to send in any evidence found on the internet if she were seen to be doing so. I think that order was in effect for a few years after the case.
So in essence, they will be forced to continue supporting her like an unemployed 50 year old child that can’t support themselves.
Hope they plan on welcoming her to their family!
HiCaliber Horse Rescue Hey all…I apologize. I replied to someone on another post and thought it was this one.
One of the rescues we referred him to called AC on him (per AC). The buyer got scared and decided he didn’t want to sell back. I’ve gently been keeping in touch with the former owner hoping he will help to convince the buyer to let us buy her back. He said he already sold her but the story changes so I’ve asked the flippers to be on the look out. I’m hoping to make progress by early next week. If we cannot get her we will issue a refund or apply it to the next CP, donors preference.
Is that perfectly clear? I hope those Donors ask for their money back as it would be interesting to see how that works. They can then redonate for hay to feed the ones left at the ranch!
She’s asked her friends the flippers to be on the look out. How nice of you M. Good thing you are in tight with the flippers. News flash. You are who you hang with. I do not believe for a hot second that AC told HC anything about any other rescues business.
If the followers can believe that so incredibly messy story, as they have time and time again, they deserve to be be mislead.
If it doesn’t make sense, it probably isn’t true. Judge Judyism.
This must have been not written by a not you; you know who; because it doesn’t make any sense at all. Yes that must be the excuse for total and utter BS. Good!
I considered that, too but was too tired to go scope them out. Maybe they will leave up the post fundraising for her even after she is dead (just like mas, as well) and they neglect to tell the donors that small fact.
I too seen their posts last night and the first thing that came to mind, was: “At least we know where the money for the Golden carrot is going”. Meaning to the animals and not for herself or her living quarters. Like some people’s does. My Second thought was What a bunch of POS’s posting photos of her place like that and to suggest someone started a fire on purpose for money is just sick. I could never live like that and am sorry she has to, But it’s clear everything goes to those horses and other animals and not anything else, I guess when you are doing it all alone without help, a persons living space comes last. It’s pretty shitty of anyone to badmouth anyone in their time of need. (or anytime really unless it’s needed to draw attention to something wrong).
There used to be a woman down the road from us, who had 2 horses, very old, skinny, basically dying. I tried everything to get her to sell them to me but no they were her babies. So I did everything in my power to help her, by dropping off food, blankets, straw for bedding. Hoping that would help the poor souls a little bit. Then one day the woman turned on me and called the sherffic saying i was trying to claim the horses as my own by doing all this for them. (Trust me i have plenty I don’t need anymore). So I was told to stay away or risk arrest. So it got to stopping on the road and tossing hay over the fence for them as it was the only thing they had to eat. Well shortly after she got all crazy on me she passed, and animal control called me in to see if I would house the horses while they tried to find homes for them. So I agreed. Well then a non horse person who has lived on our road longer then we had decided I was abusing these horses cuz they were overly skinny and looked horrible. No one could make the bitch understand they were the same two horses that used to be down the road. Where was her fucking concern then. My point is people who don’t know what’s going on really should learn to mind their own fucking business unless they are helping, not trying to make something worse or spread lies. BTW she was the same bitch who caused the tax payers a ton of money for reporting someone who was helping a deformed wild animal. Those woman on HC’s and the poop page and all their other pages remind me of that Nosey busybody bitch of a neighbor we have.
They’re the lowest of the low, subhumans. Trying to kick someone when they’re down through no fault of their own. She lost her beloved dogs and her home with all her contents. What kind of people cackle and make jokes about a situation like that? Casey puts the animals before herself. She wasn’t heavily skimming from her donations so she was able to live in a grand house unlike others we know. Talking to you M. Her animals were well cared for and loved. To post photos like that under the guise of feigning sympathy is disgusting. The purpose of those photos was to humiliate and judge. Screenshot and dissect if you want you lowlifes. IDGAF.
Well; here I am trying to find a glimmer of something positive.
I noticed that there seems to be a lot less ‘flies’ being attracted to that particular page, recently. Whatever they are doing; cough, cough; it’s definitely working wonders on killing off their ‘flies’. Pretty much just bugging themselves at this point!
Perlino TLL
Anyone who would have Maggot as a leader has to be on the lower rungs of the evolutionary scale.
Their comments mean nothing they are idiots. The people who matter are stepping up for Casey. The others can fuck off.
I’m hearing that some of the comments are beyond vile.
I understand everybody’s need to vent. The accusations and behavior coming from some corners are pretty gross. I’ve done my venting too with their racist remarks, but time to tuck it back in folks. Not a single one of those people have any respect or place in the horse community. Consider the source. No more attention for the turdflingers and their head racist.
Yes, you’re right. I’m sorry I fed the trolls.
I don’t care where or how she lives. I know her horses are LOVED and cared for and happy because they are secure. The heart is what makes a rescue. The black hearted shriveled prunes “that” crowd of ass barnacles have in their self thumping chests might know a little of that – they have memorized it when trying to scam a dollar from a trusting public.
Wouldn’t this be nice…
What? I keep looking to see if I have missed a link, but don’t see it LOL.
I swear… It’s hit or miss…
Did it work that time?
Nope. I posted it for you, though.
For me the links don’t show up in the original comment but, when you see the “reply” post it’s there.
Here is the link that Not Drinking that Cool-Aide meant to post:
https://www.10news.com/news/county-creating-animal-cruelty-prosecution-unit
They must be taking a page from SB County’s book–but in my opinion, it will only be effective if they get off their asses and do something, and not claim that there is a conflict of interest with someone like M. What happened to Johnny Cade should NEVER have happened. They should have been out there demanding to see vet records and speaking to the vets she claims were treating him to ensure that he was getting adequate care. No, most horses at the ranch will not get a conviction, because they are a rescue–but in that case it was clear evidence of breaking the law by lying as well as committing fraud.
I full agree and in poor Johnny Cade’s sad, young life this is too late. I wonder with the current investigations into HiCaliber if the local animal agencies are feeling any heat? They could have interceded and made a difference instead of crying conflict of interest.
Part of me wonders if that is responsible for why they are doing it. The SB Animal Cruelty Task Force appears to be very on top of things, and the public outcry and continued correspondence regarding the lack of action taken by Dan DeSousa and others of his office might have been enough for them to consider doing it.
That had crossed my mind as well. They shouldn’t have to create a special task force to do their jobs but hopefully they will get individuals on the team willing to make a difference.
I am of the opinion (and Shed had made some allusions in the past to this) that the conflict of interest is a two-fold issue.
First of all her charges would be coming from an entity that she had sued, therefore she could scream that it was all due to retribution.
Second I believe there was more to M & DeSouza’s relationship than merely work related which word lead to M screaming about sexual harassment
I thought she was denied disability but only threatened to sue. I’ve always wondered what the deal was with Lieutenant Dan. My mind just can’t go there right now. Yucky!
Maybe Lieutenant Dan is a victim????
Wouldn’t surprise me.
That’s certainly not an exclusive club if he is. Manson would sexually harass a fence post in a pinch.
Of a sexual predator or her lies and manipulations? Stranger things in have happened. He could have saved his BS letters he sent out that chose to only address what he felt like covering. I would feel bad for him having to deal with the situation but he hasn’t dealt with it.
I’ve always wondered about that case for sexual harassment for which she previously sued. Do you suppose those people ever see her videos and wonder if they could get their money back?
I would find it funny if they could go back to court and say look at all the material that came to light. I think they settled just to get her to shut up and go away instead of dealing with a protracted situation.
I have a feeling when this all wraps up and there are going to be a few agencies and news outlets that will have some explaining to do.
I hope.
Let’s hope they mean it and let’s hope they go hard.
I agree. I also think that it needs to be made up of people other than their local HS since they have been proven to be completely ineffective in this case.
D, my first thought was that it had been created due to the outcry of complaints.
I agree
that ‘conflict of interest” claim is BS. Manson worked there 8 years ago, there’s clearly something deeper to her relationship w/ SDAS. And why was Kat never questioned?
I find the timing and the structure of the unit to be very serendipitous
The timing of this and HiCaliber’s change in auction tactics is directly related as is Manson dragging Mr. Fancy Socks to auction with her a month or so ago.
LOL @ Lt Dan
Sickofscams, that’s what I’ve always thought. As a result she feels impunity in every act she does. Oh but the time is coming. The CA AG doesn’t have any conflicts of interest. How’s the panic meter M? Going in the red pretty consistently?
I don’t care for Lt. Dan. He failed the horses by hiding behind the conflict of interest bs. He could have taken another action as seriously, there had to be tons of complaints, valid complaints. I thought that M’s sexual harrassment lawsuit had something to do with CSSM? Was she a campus foot patrol or something? I’m not sure so bring on the info. Ironic that it was a sexual harassment lawsuit considering M and her inappropriate behavior. She can be sued even though she is a non profit. Not sure why she doesn’t think the rules don’t apply to her, but she could be sued big time for all of the innuendos, foul language, vulgar behavior. I guess her pot is different than the pot she sued in her eyes.
She has zero self awareness. None. About the only awareness she has is how to capitalize on a situation, period.
I don’t buy the recent write up on Elliot. If a vet truly did examine this horse and determine there was a nuero issue, them the vet would also state no riding as it is a serious safety concern. Monitored under saddle does not remove the safety concern. Does M think everyone is buying her continued lies, unless of course she is referring to herself as the vet that did the exam.
They seem to have a lot of faux neuro diagnostics going on. I think that’s the 30% vet’s catchall diagnosis when she doesn’t know know WTF she’s looking at, which also seems to be every time a horse isn’t fall down and obviously 3 legged lame on the front end.
I agree. They should not be riding the horse at all if neuro came out of a vets mouth or one suspects it until a complete diagnosis by a licensed vet occurs. Of course that never happened as that’s not how HiKillaber rolls. Why continue to bring more horses in? Why isn’t the county cracking down? This is like a really bad tale of how to get all of the agencies involved and no one can make anything happen, yet the horses still suffer and the scamming continues. It appears that HC has some fresh donors. No one with any sense can comment, so the fresh donors might be awhile before their light bulb illuminates. Too bad for them.
Shedrow I have read every blog and I know this it tiring and not what you want to do with your time but you started this and will see it to the end cause that is who you are you are the voice for the silent ones I cant. Believe they are still open and wish there was more to be done faster to help but sadly there isnt I just want took thank you for keeping it real and being you. Lets hope this game they play will end soon.
One would think that Common Sense would dictate trying to feed the horses you have and not bring anymore in! How many Donate buttons are up now? The clock is ticking.
You might be a hoarder if you just can’t say No. You might be a scammer if that’s all you do.
Clever.
IMO THE BEST POST EVER!!!!
A+++++++
Surfing around the Internet and see a few $5 Friday’s up. Great to see the outpouring of help for TGC. HC will have their die hard VI but I think people are, and will, seek out other “Reputible” rescues to donate to. Sorry, Michelle, maybe that bus you keep trying to throw other rescues under is doing a U turn.
I certainly hope the authorities that govern that area are watching Michelle and crew very carefully. That the horses are being,fed,watered, and cared for medically. I hope that every horse gets out of there and finds safety and a good life. Michelle will not give up however as I believe she has a mental illness that needs to be treated. She will refuse help I am sure of it. In the meantime the horses and all animals suffer around her and her narcissistic behavior. How many horses as she adopted herself with donor funds? Have receipts been shown of expenses to investigating parties??
I’m going to try and post this link…
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155160799026741&id=48984541740
Here’s the down and dirty. I hope that Manson gets whats coming to her for dragging these broken horses home and then shooting them.
San Diego County District Attorney Summer Stephan announced today that she is launching the office’s first-ever Animal Cruelty Prosecution Unit, which will provide prosecutorial consistency countywide, investigative support and dedicated expertise for animal abuse cases. We need the community to be our eyes and ears on behalf of animals! To report suspected animal cruelty or neglect, please call our Humane Law Enforcement at 619-243-3466.
I wonder if this is due to the realization that they dropped the ball in the case of HiCaliber and are trying to save face?
The previous lack of action to protect the horses at HiCaliber speaks volumes.
There are lots of statues and laws but unless they are enforced they are meaningless.
Perlino TLL
I’m sure that’s at least a small part of it. Also HiCaliber’s shadiness has certainly caused some awareness of the tripping and abuses in SoCal. Not that they wanted to shine a spotlight there, but thanks to people standing up and speaking out, advocates quietly working behind the scenes, it no longer can be ignored. I’m so surprised that Manson, who claims to be a domestic violence surivivor (which is a lie), didn’t pick up on animals being a party of the cycle of abuse.
That was sarcasm btw.
This will also pit Michelle directly against the District Attorney when it comes to animal abuse in San Diego. If Michelle continues to protect abusers then it may very well be she who ends up in the crosshairs of this agency, too. 😉
May as well end up in the crosshairs in two counties since she’s already is in SB County.
Well of course; they will continue to protect the supply train of abused and neglected animals! How else do you expect them to rescue pathetic looking creatures that they use and abuse further for fundraising? (That is a rhetorical question). Those poor families’ animals need ‘special help’ that only HiCaliber can deliver aka $$$$ for abused animals. Yes! HiCaliber certainly is a standout when it comes to protection of animal abusers!
Perlino TLL
Funny how the `poor families’ are always the same three guys.
They seem to be leaning towards “companion animals” which if in defining this unit that will be their loophole to avoid negligence and abuse to large animals I am saddened. I would love to give these guys a chance to prove that they will do the right thing but I think that I am already slightly disillusioned.
http://www.sandiegocountynews.com/district-attorneys-office-establishes-new-animal-cruelty-prosecution-unit/
In a perfect world one individual will follow this from start to finish.
Since there is a strong link between animal abuse and violent crimes against people – particularly children and domestic violence – the unit will reside within the DA’s Family Protection Division. The unit will work closely with police, Sheriff’s deputies, Department of Animal Services, animal control officers, the San Diego Humane Society, and others to investigate and prosecute animal cruelty cases vertically (one prosecutor handling the case from beginning to end.)
Dear Lieutenant Dan… Your talent obviously lies in kissing ass and politics. You had an opportunity to be the voice. You dropped the ball.
“The creation of the Animal Cruelty Unit is an important step in holding people accountable for their actions,” said Dan DeSousa, Director of the County of San Diego Department of Animal Services. “Together with the animal control and humane officers, the District Attorney’s Office will now help protect those without a voice, namely the animals in our communities.”
Well, this is interesting and hopefully will prove to be the case when in comes to HiCaliber.
Since 2014, the District Attorney’s Office has prosecuted 248 animal cruelty-related cases, many of which resulted in lengthy prison sentences for defendants with previous criminal histories.
Families and communities are at risk when animal abuse is ignored or unreported alongside family violence.
Deputy District Attorney Karra Reedy has been assigned to lead the unit
https://patch.com/california/san-diego/north-park-man-who-poisoned-dogs-gets-year-jail-0
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-dog-rescuer-found-guilty-neglect-case-2011mar01-story.html
I think you have to look at this as a long overdue start. It’s going to take reasonable and level headed people to broaden their scope to large animals. Lt Dan is a waste of time here.
It’s definitely long overdue. Maybe tomorrow I’ll feel reasonable and level headed but today I’m cranky. I’m tired of how people chose to look the other way for so long with HiCaliber but yet can talk about accountability.
This whole shit show is painful to watch and right now I’m just plain old frustrated.
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Oops, wrong emoji.
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It’s so sad to lose faith in the system
You’re not alone in that. I get frustrated any time there is a cruelty case, especially involving large animals. We just need to keep pushing until ever state recognizes them all as sentient beings like Oregon does.
per articles online about a month ago, SDHS won contract to take over SD Co. animal services effective July 1. So SDAS is downsizing/laying off employees & apparently will only continue work in unincorporated communities.
wonder if Lt.Dan will stay w/ shrinking SDAS or if he’ll get new job @SDHS? Hmm…
Just an opinion, but if any official (Lt. Dan) is not able to adequately perform his job due to entanglements from past behavior … time for that official to seek other employment, and be replaced by someone who will get the job done.
Sounds like it is way, way overdue in this case.
Also why was the Kat person was allowed to continue on the BOD of a questionable organization with incoming complaints? They had to call in another agency to do the job, instead of just severing that employee’s unnecessary connection with the organization getting complaints? Not doing that very simple step was acceptable to someone with county administrative oversight?
Time for a new staff, a far more able and professional one. I mean there is inept government, and then there is this mess. IMO 🙂
Maybe in the long run it will be a good thing if HiCaliber shakes out a few trees, indirectly as it were.
I guess Lieutenant Dan is a more than adequate ass 💋??? There are a few articles floating around the web talking about his great efforts as an officer. I guess he even saved a large number of pit bulls from a terrible situation. Although recently there was an article on euthanasia practices in our animal agencies that didn’t put him in a favorable light.
I haven’t forgotten the hypocrisy behind Kat educating the public on animal hoarders.
I think something has gone on in our local agencies that has caused the checks and balance system to be ineffectual.
new beg post…poor us we have no money b/c of lies (that we can’t prove wrong b/c they’re all true).
not using PP anymore b/c of fees & they need every dime, so they have a sketchy phone number to “text” donations to. What could go wrong?
plus new/odd fundraising site set up by Wrinkles where for $500 you can go to dinner w/ Manson or $1000 you can go on trail-ride w/ her. Wtf?
I wonder if their newest PayPal accounts have been frozen?
Dinner with Manson or a trail ride for that cost? That’s pretty funny!
bet you’re right b/c their new ‘betterunite’ site takes 2.9% + .30 cents….when PP only takes 2.2% + .30 cents
Some days I just laugh about the things the VI’s buy into. Other days I want to bang my head against the wall.
I’m glad you looked at the numbers because I don’t have the head for that kind of stuff but I was really curious. Thank you!
Their newest paypal address, weloveyou@hical is unable to receive donations anymore.
That’s because they are using a different platform now. Does anybody think they have an intention of shutting down still?
This is what you get when you try to send money through Paypal right now–so I don’t believe it is this is their choice due to fees LOL.
“This recipient accepts PayPal payments only through their website. To complete this payment, please go to their website and follow their instructions, or email the recipient for instructions.” (This was using their new address)
So then, you go to the website, and when you attempt to donate money, it says this:
“This recipient is currently unable to receive money.”
What this tells me is one of two things, and probably both.
There was a letter sent about a week and a half ago detailing Michelle’s new practice of adopting rideable horses to herself for 1.00 despite the donors funding the purchase of said horse.
Then there were the other photos discussed, including M attempting to sell her own “project” horses, with an eye towards selling the rideable horses herself later and pocketing the funds.
Of course the letter also detailed the number of horses that she is adopting and paying for their care with donor funds, as she has no outside source of income, with all monies going to her “new” Paypal.
Those letters were sent to a new email address, so there was no way to know if they had gotten to where they were supposed to go, but..this makes me wonder!
We’ve discussed all along that a second freeze could be established on other accounts, and were curious as to why it hadn’t been done. This might be simply that they have finished the investigation of the old accounts and are now ready to start one of the newest, (which means things might be drawing to a close), or a combination of both scenarios above. I am thrilled.
Wouldn’t it be amazing if things were drawing to a close? For whatever the reason it is frozen and they have started new accounts, it seems undeniable that forward progress is being made and HC is just trying to be sneaky again. As if they ever stopped.
Good question, Shed. One would think they have a TON of work to do around there, unless she plans to leave the owner with the mess. Nope, cruising the Internet and off on trail rides without a care in the world. Seems she is still actively looking for a place to move and have her die hard VI follow her. With her reputation, the condition that place is in now, having no jobs it would be another idiot that would lease anything to her. She has a history on the Escondido property and not a good one. She has to be stockpiling money, no other way for her, and the animals she has collected, to survive. Add the other freeloaders. My concern is WTH isn’t what she is doing being monitored??
It is being monitored. No worries there.
OMG, they would have to pay ME at least $1000 to go for a trail ride w/ M. UGH. I can’t think of a worse way to spend my time let alone money.
Ain’t that the truth? 😆
I am laughing and remembering those two agencies out there to ask her questions and there comments at the end.
“We might end up on TMZ cause she is and internet celebrity or something.”
This is truly proof that she believes herself to be an internet celebrity of some sort, while I just keep thinking of the high end escort services who plaster their services on Craigslist. “I can be your girlfriend, your friend, whatever you’d like, paying just a small fee for companionship.”
Hahaha!
Only $1000 to ride a lame horse while M is sexually inappropriate and spends her entire time on live? What a bargain! *sarcasm*
😂 Them talking privately on their way out was the best part of those transcripts! 🤣
I laughed so hard that I choked, seriously!
😂 I was definitely laughing out loud and had to “try” and explain the hilarity to my husband as he doesn’t know about the parties involved.
LOL! Maybe M should just go back to Craiglist where she can sell skanky dirty chones or whatever else she can dream up!
LOL! She probably already is doing that, but maybe she’s retired the `Monique’ name.
ha! Amazing too is there’s 6 trail-rides up for sale on that site (and 6 dinners). They actually think 6 people will pay $1000 each to ride w/ Manson. Wow.
For $1,000 I could fly myself, two kids round trip to WA State and ride horses for an hour on the beach for $20 each person. Wait I’m lying, I wouldn’t have to pay to ride but it would be a great vacation!!
I bet they are expected to pay for dinner, too. LOL!
I assume that will come out of the $500 one would pay to have the shittiest night if their life.
🤣🤣
Not once it gets into her grubby paws. Oxygen first! They would claim that all of the money is needed to do her nails–oops, feed the horses.
Yes, and nobody would be sexually offensive and you wouldn’t have to explain what `shrimping’ is to your children.
Well I may have too BUT it would be about real shrimp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They are reaching with those fundraisers of dinner or a trail ride. The couldn’t pay me to do attend a dinner or a trail ride with either of those barnacles.
First of all, do they really think they are all of that and a bag of chips too? They must think they are really famous in a good way or something.
To M because I know you read this blog.
Uh, no your donations are down due to scamming, misappropriation of funds, killing horses, neglecting horses, lying, fraud, and so much more. It’s not the volunteers fault or the haters fault or anyone else’s fault except yours. It starts at the top. Start acting like a CEO and take accountability for your failures because they are your failures. If the animals were cared for and not being neglected in any way, no one would have caught on to your scam, but along with the lies, it was quite obvious to most people that you, M, were and are continuing to run a scam and using the horses to do so.
You keep blaming everyone else. Anyone who is a responsible adult has already learned to take accountability for their own actions by the time they are at your age in life. Long before your age actually. People that blame other people for everything that is wrong in their life have problems, real problems. Stop blaming everyone else. Close already. The horses all deserve to be rescued from the rescue.
AG
Right on!
Perlino TLL
well said AG!
Oh Good Grief, just who do they think they are that anyone would pay anything to eat dinner with them or go on a trail ride with them. They must really think they are Speciallllll!
“A prostitute by any other name is still just a prostitute.”
My apologies to the immortal rose for which that line was originally meant, but it seemed appropriate to be paraphrased.
On a plus note, sure hope that M hasn’t been using donor funds to pay for her own criminal defense attorney! 😉
I wonder if horse balls or other medical waste will be on the menu? I wonder if you’ll get to pay for that dinner?
I hate starting my day spewing my ciffee! She is driving that bus again, straight at the Volunteers. Another avenue to donate to at no fee? Gotta love Izabelle
I just donated through the text and it made me select a fee amount to help the process and so I chose .05 and continued and the final amount added 1.39 to my donation of 20.00, so there is a FEE, what’s up with that! and how it became that much I have no idea because I chose $0.05. When I would use the PayPal I had the option to do it with no fee at all.
You would think the followers/donors would get a clue. If an org has to continually change their fundraising- scam tactics, it might be a red flag. No, it is a big red flag with sirens blaring. Sorry Izabelle, but you and so many others are being played.
After seeing these recent comments I had to go look at their FB post. After reading it…how can these people NOT get that this is all spin, deflection and lies?? The VI’s must truly want to be fooled. They believe what they want to hear.
But I’m tickled to see the other PayPal accounts frozen. Absolutely tickled.
I wonder if that means we’ll get another drunken Fireball pool party if they become unfrozen?
No fees to them, because the fees are charged to the donor?
So I just checked my personal paypal and my business paypal account and neither of them have had a fee raise. She is so full of shit.
I was notified by letter back in April, so is that what she is talking about?
However, regardless of the fee increase, M would not count on donors switching to yet ANOTHER fundraising base, period. Paypal to Venmo–and after using her Venmo to track her purchases, I would never use that site, ever–to new paypals to this attempt now. She would leave that Paypal open (if she had been left a choice in the matter) in order to allow donors comfortable with that format to continue sending in money.
You are correct in her spewing BS again in an attempt to cover the fact that she really is in trouble and that the government is really not done with her. They have just begun.
I would say, it’s likely her paypal got shut down or was frozen, But you would think that would be public knowledge.. And I believe Venmo is owned and offered by paypal which would shut that down also.
Venmo was shut down on the first round, too LOL.
I was just reading all of the village idiots explaining to a newcomer as to why all of the “lies and harassment” are occurring. it occurs to ME that they really are as dense as a box of rocks.
Michelle, you know they aren’t lies. The only harassment is because we speak the truth and brought it many of your actions to horses, as well as other innocent animals, into the light.
We see you.
The Attorney general and other agencies–they see you, too.
So what will you tell them when the charges are filed? That we called the Attorney General office on the “hater hotline,” and got them to trump charges up against you? That all of the evidence has been fabricated? I wish we could make you pay for all of the deaths of animals for which you are responsible–but failing that, we will make you pay for other illegal actions and the lifestyle you have given yourself based upon the donations and goodwill of others.
We will continue to report every underhanded action that we see, and you make it very easy to do so. We will continue to do so up to and until the final charges have been filed. Rather than calling it harassment, perhaps you ought to own up to the fact that many, many of your actions have been illegal and the law is still being broken today, as well as the express wishes of the agencies who have already spoken to you.
Read it and weep.
#weseeyou
Agree! I think their PP accounts are frozen and they are throwing anything out there hoping something will stick. Amazes me that so many VI are still falling for this BS. For one thing, why is HC the only rescue that has multiple accounts and keeps changing accounts? Other non-profits, or charities, I donate to aren’t changing stuff up on a regular basis. You can bet, if they were, that would make me suspicious and I would not be letting go of my money until I did some double-checking.
Sort of like her multiple personalities, right? A new one every day!
HC won’t be able to use a Gofundme either…GFM just took over Youcaring to combine as one…and GFM uses PP’s Giving Fund to distribute payments to charitable orgs.
That’s funny.
What is even funnier is if she trusts one of her minions to set up a GFM for them enough–which would result in the minion getting pulled into it by acting as anything to do with HiCal’s finances and acting in a fiduciary capacity.
Surprise!
The thing with the VI’s as a group, they have all effectively passed through a filter that screens out certain kinds of people and lets certain kinds of people through. Based on a willingness to follow follow follow, anywhere.
So on the one hand they have bred the most compliant and obedient group that anyone could imagine. On the other hand, it’s a group that is stone cold useless in a crisis. And doesn’t know squat about horses.
I wonder if she’ll start blaming Trump for all her problems next.
Dunno. This is a politic free page so whomever she blames, she can blame on her own. However, it is generally “the haters.”
I was being sarcastic.
She blamed volunteers for making it ‘almost impossible to adopt horses’.
Really? For two years? You didn’t notice the horses piling up? Unbelievable. Aren’t YOU in charge?
You always say they are ‘your’ horses. It’s ‘your’ rescue. Guess what? Everything you chose to do or not do; is ‘your’ responsibility. Trying to pass the buck to the volunteers is total BS. Newsflash.
Perlino TLL
I keep saying it, but I’ll say it again, the reason former adoption teams couldn’t move horses out is her constant interference with the process. Even know she’s still interfering and helping herself to horses for $1 that would normally be snapped up. I know for a fact there is very little if any follow up on the horses that are `flying out the door’ as well. They aren’t all in good or forever homes.
Of course she has been hand picking her own prospects for flipping. Nothing new.
What’s ironic is the first red flag for me back in early 2015; was the numbers of ‘adoptions’ they used to brag about on FB. There was no way those were legit adoptions numbers in 2015. Newsflash sending horses out to other groups is not adoption. Neither is euthanasia.
Just like now. Just shuffling off horses to all takers. What a cluster. It’s either all or nothing with these people. Very bipolar.
Well except for ‘haters’. Haters ain’t getting nothing. No love for haters. Too bad so sad. Lots of horses might land softly.
Is she still tooling around in the BMW paid for with donors money or has she turned it in? Yet? Being donations are down. Doesn’t she have a truck?
Perlino TLL
She still has both vehicles as far as I know. The truck is pretty trashed though.
Considering Michelle has worked as a paid hauler, and has apparently used the truck/trailer donated to the 501c3 to earn money for herself alone by hauling, isn’t that such a blatant misuse of the 501c3 as to make it virtually invalid? I’m looking forward to finding out.
If she declares it, and they are aware of it, she will be made responsible to pay the back taxes on it.
The question is–we know she lies, so how honest will she be about reporting it? I think she is stupid enough to tell them that she pays herself for hauling so that she has “income,” and then they will nail her on that, as well.
Doesn’t she need a DOT number if she’s getting paid to haul? I wonder if Bang Bang Becky might still be on the hook for her part of things and her paid hauls?
If she tries to explain away her cash withdrawals as hauling fees for herself and Becky, yes. However–she would have to specifically claim it as such. on the other hand, if she doesn’t claim it, then she has unexplained cash withdrawals being made to the tune of several thousand a week on occasion. Sort of a tight situation.
As for the hauling laws–I am not up on those. I know the SD Sheriff’s office asked about it when we first made contact and I told him I couldn’t answer anything to do with that because I didn’t know.
The truck was always here from what I understand. Richie Price donated the trailer but she registered it under her own name so probably plans to keep it when it’s all done. Hopefully, Richie didn’t take a tax deduction for it or he’s going to find people combing through his books as well.
1. Blaming volunteers for the short comings of the BOD
2. Always placing your own needs over the horses in your care. **Hope you enjoyed your Mexican meal and margaritas while the horses stand tied in the hot trailer.
3. Posting the above on FB in posts and videos because ‘we’re not your bitch’!
Perlino TLL
I’m pretty sure they don’t have Auction Tuesday, Fri or Sat Night Special phone calls from families in need of someone to euth their horse and other crazy unbelievable made up lies to grift for funds in Las Colinas, but hey, give M a minute, I’m sure she’ll come up with some way to scam the system.
I don’t know whether to feel sorry for the connected barnacles or not. Are they really that naive to believe that HC is not in a serious legal mess right now? They are complicit and the horses do deserve their justice, but do the barnacles not realize that M will turn on them in a moment to cut a deal when it is time? I can’t wait for them to be charged and the scammers will get their day in court. Tick Tock.
The die-hard barnacles are just a vile and complicit in perpetuating the con and animal abuse as Manson. They have aided and abetted, profited and plotted by Michelle’s side. Let their names be included on any and all legal indictment documents and may punishments be handed out to them as well. Some of the die-hard, inside villagers who have profited should also be made to face charges (even though they will probably slip free).
After watching Wrinkles double dip and talk with food in her mouth I have no sympathy at all. Add that to Romney Faye’s disgusting table manners and Manson’s almost slurred speech and I’m pretty much off my feed for the next several days. Who would pay $500 to experience that first hand? So gross.
that chip/margarita live was repulsive, at least the guacamole was eaten on a table this time. Funny how Manson said she & Wrinkles had some new ideas “after church” (a.k.a. smoking something).
after live, bet Manson asked the waitress for crayons, so they could get creative & then drive a trailer full of hot/thirsty horses back to Shit Mountain.
oh to have a cop pull Manson over drunk driving w/ a trailer load of horses…
LOL!!!!!!
Unless they have something else going on, does not look like the Save a Horse fund raiser is going up much. The horses have to eat but I think many are very leery of donating, me included. Unbelievable the way this organization was run and there was no cushion set aside, for whatever money might be needed for. Shit happens.
Many of us have no problems donating directly to the feed bill despite her claims that her hay people are harassed. Not one of us would be willing to donate to her, period. She forgets that many of us have seen her bank statements. We know where the money goes and it isn’t to the horses first, despite her claims to the contrary.
Pretty much every former volunteer has stated they were never harassed and that was not why they left HiCaliber. I don’t know of anybody that would harass their feed suppliers.
I do not get why folks are worried about the horses eating – if she did adopt 55 horses – we know what she charged, going rate 1000 or better. She should have enough hay bought for a year.
Well, for one thing, her prices are fluid. Friends and BOD members, as well as herself, get them for 1.00.
Also I would not be surprised if they made more money than they are declaring on the tax forms. And yet they never have a thin dime, to hear them tell it. No horse emergency fund. No cushion to get them through a soft month. The horses seem to be last on the funds disbursement list.
The fact they keep changing fundraising platforms is sketchy AF. Paypal is well known and universally trusted as being fairly secure. Who would voluntarily shut their paypals down?
Yeah because being responsible was not part of the get rich quick scheme. I mean part of the please help and send all your money to save these horses from being slaughtered. Or send all your money hurry to save these sad broken up horses the owners neglected but cannot afford euthanasia. All the while my friends and I live high on the hog. Your hog! Oink. Oink. All the way home.
Perlino TLL
Given HC is in their usual state of financial collapse whenever the PTB mess with their accounts, and that HC is bleeding experienced volunteers … is there a watch on the horses that will alert us if the horses are suddenly going short of food? (More short than now?) This could go very bad in a hurry if they actually do run out of feed and hay. Will we know? Will SDAC know, will they take immediate action?
There is money someplace or some places. Just watched most of the video of them eating and having drinks (are horses standing in a hot trailer again?). Nice dinner conversation, but typical and scrolled on by. Hair is done, nails done, lashes intact. Where are the kids M spends her Sunday’s with? They are supposed to close on the 30th? I would be busy as heck just trying to pack my house up much less a ranch. Maybe I would be looking for a job. Maybe I would be feeding, watering and mucking. Maybe she has no intention of leaving until she is kicked out. Please, Michelle, and your line up of scammers, cross that stream and ride far into the sunset and may no horses cross your path.
From what I understand, a lot of furniture in her house belongs to the property owner. I’m sure it’s thoroughly trashed and soaked with pet urine, but she doesn’t own much legitimately from my understanding. Also, you have to listen to her wording carefully. She plans to shut HiCaliber down on the 30th but has said nothing about actually moving or closing the 501c3. It’s all smelling like a big scam.
I don’t know how any of you can listen and/or watch the vids. I can’t. I hope the AG and the IRS will be helping her along with the correct, undeniable wording soon. Handcuffs, charges, arraignments, court dates… Ahhhh I look forward to the lack of HC crap other than them getting justice.
She said before she was going to keep her 501c3. Hard to believe that can happen. Even if she did, her reputation and bad press us out there on the Internet now and there will be eyes on her.
She won’t lose it until convicted of the charges, but she won’t be keeping it.
D, have discussed this with a chance couple of people. I agree that I am hoping charges are brought against all of then involved in this scam. If they don’t get jail time and heavy fines, I at least they are put on Probation and monitored fir a loooong time.
She can’t close and keep her 501(c)3. She can’t have a non profit status if she is closed as there is no reason to have the status.
I think she figures she’ll change names and go into custom killing or something. It will be fun to watch her try.
Well, it’s Tuesday and, true to form, HC is asking for donations for a horse with melanomas. I actually see a couple of VI questioning that and actually suggesting they actually concentrate on buying hay!! What a novel idea. Sorry, M, anyone paying attention knows it is NOT your decision to close. How many stories is she going to spin? Not much is sticking. Well, they’re always have poor Izabelle.
exactly, they claim to need more hay & still haven’t paid off the last load. But now they want $700+ to shoot the cancer-mare to save her from MX rodeo? Please.
someone from Equine Welfare Soc.posted on HC that they will help w/ euth costs & to please PM her…of course HC ignored her.
Manson also could have easily called AC & sent them to this horses’ home to surrender the horse or offer assistance w/vet euth. etc.
HC refuses to see what everyone else sees: they are not needed, nor will they be missed.
According to M, she gave them the number. (Sonething is stuck in my throat)
They can’t see it because they’re too busy sittin’ round in a circle together, eating nacho’s and singing “The Cups Song”.
I saw someone on FB posting about Robin stating on Live, in the restaurant, the reason HC’s and all their personal PayPal acct’s were shiut down was due to a TOS violation accepting friends and family payments. Ermmm I don’t buy that. You can’t control how people send you money. If you actually read the PayPay rules and regulations, it says as a business entity you can not INSTRUCT people to send you money via friends and family as a business entity (non profits included). It’s a no no and at Paypal’s Discretion to shut your shit down. More like a slap on the wrist as they still want their money too.
But really, it’s the whole under investigation by Government entities, while your accounts are frozen and creating new accounts and having friends create new accounts attached to their own personal accounts FBO of the same organization (HC) with frozen accounts. It’s super duper shady and according to PayPal’s own published rules, reason to shut all accounts down.
So in conclusion: Not going to miss you when you’re gone, HC still shady AF, Robin still lying (conveniently caught on live), Terrible Tuesday: Fools and their money are soon parted.
Wrinkles also said something about PPals being locked up for 180 days, maybe she was lying(?)
Nope.
If her mouth was moving, she was probably lying.
I’m still stuck on the fact that one person commented how sad it was that the horse was standing in a “mountain of crap.” It’s absolutely fascinating to me how a HC follower can see too much poop in someone else’s photo, but yet cannot recognize the same poop (if not more) in a HC photo. This is a very interesting phenomenon. I wish I was some sort of psychology type because the HC village must just be a playground for studies of odd social behavior in humans.
Love it!
Also, according to the only bilingual horse person in Southern California, the horse can’t poop.
Funny how these horses always show up on Tuesday…
Shedrow
Today I voted to keep Xavier in office. It was CA state primary elections. I thought of you Shedrow. He kicks butt as Attorney General. He needs to stay in office to kick some more butt. Thought you might appreciate this.
Yours truly
Perlino TLL
I do!
Perlino- I did the same. I worry that someone else might let up on the pursuit of this case, and on other questionable 501c3s.
Does anyone else think it I s in extremely poor taste to beg for donations for hay, vet and farrier so the horses do not go without yet they still continue to beg for additional horses for euth or other needs? This is why HC failed. Ongoing piss poor decision making all in the name of greed. No other reason except the M is not a business savvy person, but she is a scamming savvy person. Even the followers get this basic concept. They can’t keep throwing $ at the never ending closing story. Get a clue M. Your song is over.
Yes AG!
Over a short amount of time, HC and their spiffy FB from afar admin’s kicked their own arses by blocking pretty much most viable, legit money donors due to their own bloated ego’s for asking simple questions, not even”hater” stuff.
They’re their own worst enemy.
And the Worst Admins Ever Award goes to….. Drum roll….
HC and the barnacles. That makes a lot of the Worst Ever Awards by one single organization.
Yep. Better make it one, collective award as it’s standing room only on the recipient end. Well, maybe a few Honorable mention’s as well. ; D
I see it in bad taste for them to be begging for money while eating out and guzzling drinks while none of them have a job. Well, I guess Jonathan has a job, but I’m sure he isn’t picking up the tab. Can’t the village see that this is on their dime too?
If you listen closely after the other lady shows up, Ingrid, she says she will pick up the bill. At least I think that is what she is referring to.
The one volunteer who sat down at the end picked up the tab apparently. This time. Most times it’s donations that would pay for things because M would have considered it rescue business to go on a trail ride with her buddies.
Based on some comments Michelle has made in the past to now former volunteers I wonder if she’s been tucking away money meant for the nonprofit and the horses in need. Its pretty astonishing that according to their 2016 990s they took in a million dollars but ended the year with just around $10k in the bank. We won’t know exactly where all of that money went until the investigations are complete but I wonder if she has been squirreling away money from the beginning. Michelle has mentioned borrowing money from her daughter and the need to replace it. Based on her past history she doesn’t seem to be very good with money but it wouldn’t surprise me if she does in fact have a good bit hidden somewhere. If that’s the case I hope the agencies investigating catch wind of and find it so she doesn’t continue to benefit from her dishonesty once all of this is over with.
Something
I’m not sure what happened to the rest of the comment so here it is again:
Something else that has me curious is how the government might handle the money situation after this is all over. Could she be ordered to repay all the money she’s taken? If that’s the case there likely won’t BE a HiCaliber once this is said and done so where would the money go?
Its almost laughable that she still claims she’s done nothing wrong and that she continues to lie about the status of the investigations. She tries to project this image of a person who is unfazed by all of it but I can’t help but wonder if its an act to convince the villagers nothing is wrong and that its business as usual. If I were her I’d be beside myself watching all this unravel. They’re scrambling to raise money since their PP accounts have been frozen. Based in the steady drop in likes and comments they seem to have lost a massive amount of support over the past few weeks. The constant change of fundraising platforms should’ve been a huge red flag to anyone still donating but many of them seemed to ignore those warning signs.
She doesn’t strike me as the type that is capable of squirreling away the money. She would just spend it. And spend it… and have little to nothing to show for it. Oh I’m quite certain she has siphoned off a ton of money for her and her cronies to live on…but I just doubt that she has it hidden away. She’s not that clever.
Oh I think there is a stash of cash someplace. M is not acting like she wil be destitute anything soon. She just keeps the scam stories coming as she will try to grab as much as she can until she is handcuffed and locked up. I do hope the state of CA will go after her for fraud if she has taken any money in assistance or medical benefits. I know the IRS doesn’t play with fraud or tax evasion. Those things are what will get you locked up.
Also, in her last fictional plea of a post, did anyone else catch that she mentioned rent as one of the costs going forward? This irritates me to no end. I know many rescues and not one has their human residences paid for by donations. M might say well that is just good business, but hey, she wasn’t keeping up with the rent, the property or adequately caring for the horses with a greater than a $1M/ year budget so how anyone would fall for her lies on the next property is beyond me. The entitlement factor is beyond belief.
I truly believe that the non profit organizations need better and more consistent oversight because of the exact situation with HC. It would not have been able to go on this long if oversight was in place as we all know that the agencies set up to protect animals isn’t working as they always seem to only get involved when it’s too late for the animals.
How M appears on live feeds is very different from how she is behind closed doors. For starters, she appeared sedated on that last live feed the way she was half slurring and laying on the table. I’ve been told she is freaking out behind closed doors and she’s not that nice to anybody when the cameras are off.
I read the volunteer that showed up paid. Whether that is correct or not, was thinking the same, BTD
Totally agree, AG. Stashing cash and probably taking, or getting, what she needs for her own horses. I missed the rent comment as I often can’t sit and listen to the blabber but it is usually about the same script. It just makes sense that Donor dollars have been paying their expenses as most have no incomes! The “personal” upkeep does not come cheap! Not only her, but her fluid BOD can be held responsible and I think Dr. Grove realized that early on. I have said that from the beginning, because I have seen it happen, there was no oversight as to the handling of that money. Amazing how they don’t seem to have a care in the world. If not for the dedicated Volunteers, past and present, she keeps throwing under the bus, how much care does anyone think those horses woukd be getting? This push for showcasing horses and all these adoptions are due to the hard work of those left that are doing it for the horses. Someone said, M has alienated and blocked so many people that were her supporters the funds just are not coming in. Well, she did it to herself. She and Romney (don’t forget RFB) have created this mess and expect the VI to clean it up. Maybe some good will come of this and people will wake up and start to support the Reputible rescues out there. This is a perfect example of how a non-profit should be run. Looks like some are actually waking up.
Even if their donors don’t move on to support other rescues I still think that other rescues will be better off without having such a shit show like HiCaliber enabled moving forward. It’s going to take awhile to set things right in the SoCal rescue community and for those other rescues to really highlight the good work they do. It won’t be as dramatic as all these flippers just happening to have mangled horses every Tuesday and all these poor non-English speaking families falling on hard times, but it will be real rescue.
Time2WakeUp, yes, the rent comment was embedded in a post referring to a smaller place to run the scam still requiring rent etc. via donations, (Paraphrasing). I can’t watch the vids. The voice of RFB is as irritating as M and her lie hole. I have zero respect for any of them. And really, a volunteer arrived and paid for their meal? Who would have paid if the volunteer didn’t show up? The donors that still think they are doing good when all they are doing is enabling the am to continue even if it’s on two broken wheels at this point.
We all know that M and her barnacles had all expenses paid to feed and care for their own horses on the donor dollars wgich is also misuse of funds.
It’s ironic that M thinks she is a famous celebrity. Doesn’t she know that a real famous celebrity would pay for their own meal and probably yours too? Not expected, but it happens at times. And when I say pay for their own meal, I mean with their own hard earned money, not donor funds. I don’t care how many ways M wants to justify eating and drinking on donor funds, it was abused and is still being abused.
Shed, that actually makes me a bit joyful that she is squirming a bit and I’m not sorry about that at all. She deserves whatever dish gets served to her. I think about the horses she has hurt, neglected and killed in the name of rescue and it sickens me to think she has no conscious. Tick Tock M. Time’s a comin’
I actually don’t think she’s sitting on a nest egg. I think she thought she had a money tree and spent like a drunken sailor on shore leave. I don’t think Manson is all that smart at all when it comes to managing money.
Totally agree.
I don’t think she is good at managing anything except managing to scheme and scam well meaning people out of their time and money. She is successful at that!
Regards
Perlino TLL
Since a lot of you seem to know the other rescues out there, have you heard from them about being contacted to take this last horse? Michelle said she gave out contact numbers and referred them to other groups. I know, I know, she lies, but just covering all bases.
Not to mention; there is one rescue in that general vacinity that has an Hispanic trainer on staff. Oophs there goes the we are the ONLY group the Spanish speakers come to for help BS. Plus, Spanish is a very common second language taught in most public secondary schools ( junior high and high school) in the state of CA. That doesn’t make all those students fluent but many can communicate at a basic level.
Even years later! Boom; there it goes! Another big fat on going lie, crushed. You are welcome.
Perlino TTL
Michelle doesn’t even speak Spanish herself beyond `Dame veinte dólares por mi ropa interior maloliente’, so not exactly sure how she plans on being the voice for the hispanic community.
Your on a roll! I thought you were talking about her looking for an interior decorator but I googled to make sure. I think I’m glad I did??? It was definitely a good laugh!
LOL
LMAO… I finally got a chance to translate this. 🤣
had to google it too, that’s hilarious! 🙂
I would imagine that those HS students can speak/understand Spanish better than the Angel of Death
Thank you Shed – I really needed a goo LOL!!
No and I actually privately asked a few if they had been contacted. None of them had.
Have asked a couple and they had not been contacted. Of course, there is the “List” of rescues that used to help HC and doubt they were called. Although, they have made it clear they will not deal with flippers. More bridges burned.
I figured so much. I cannot imagine her giving a horse a chance with a real rescue. But since some of the village reads here it needs to put out there.
Wrong place, this was meant to be under the mass euthanasia post.
Now she’s threatening to start shooting horses if the VIs don’t raise the hay funds.. because the HS might kill them? I hope the powers that be see this.
I wonder if it dawns on the VIs that the HS might even actually euth humanely?
Ive been expecting this. She is a very sick individual. I wonder if the remaining villagers will stand behind this.
What I want to know, is if she starts shooting horses, is she going to have the bodies removed or is she going to bail and leave the dead bodies? To remove them costs money.
A lot of the villagers, in their defense, were questioning and their comments were being deleted as we were reading them. One girl had donated hundreds and fostered for them and they deleted her so fast it wasn’t even funny. At least those people should know the truth now, but like us, can’t say a word anymore.
Michelle is now saying they don’t have enough hay to feed the horses on hand, so send cash now or she’ll have to shoot them.
She doesn’t want the Humane Society involved because they will “euthanize all the pasture puffs.”
No option to give directly to the hay supplier, naturally. So, give her money or the horses die. If the Humane Society gets them, they’ll die. Only cash can save them now!!!1!!
that is nuts. VI’s are even posting HC should give hay guy’s info to pay direct, but of course HC says he’ll get harassed.
VI posted (something like) “not true. I called him & he says he has never been harassed. He’s very nice & will accept a check or bank transfer, so I sent him a check”
Post deleted now.
I’d be willing to donate directly to the hay guy.
The end game is near. M should just walk away.
Since Michelle says they have been adopting out so many horses in the last month(?), where is that money? Shouldn’t that income go to the horses left there? Plus just yesterday she was begging for fly masks.
I did see the villager post about donating to the hay supplier, another suggested sending payment to feed stores in the area so the hay could be picked up, and another brave soul questioned why it would be bad for the HS to euth via vet instead of Michelle and her trusty bullets. Of course those posts were ignored.
They do have a post up listing one business. Problem with that is, who knows how much would be collected?
Send her money…or she will start killing horses. FFS. I dearly hope the Humane Society or authorities can step in now that she has declared their inability to afford hay and horses will be shot. I would love for it to be her own posted words that hasten the end.
She claims 50+ adoptions…those fees should have purchased some hay. Assuming those were legit adoptions and not some shady underhanded horse trading.
How about a yard sale M? You could sell off some things to pay for hay. Like the sling, saddles, tack, BMW, trailer, Truck…you know…stuff that belongs to the rescue that you won’t need when you close at the end of the month…
Here is the link to the Attorney General if anyone would like to file a complaint regarding M threatening to shoot horses purchased with donor funds. These are horses for which a vet has not recommended euthanasia.
Click to access ct9.pdf
Add the AVMA and maybe Brad doing another follow-up.
Brad has no pull. He makes the same phone calls anybody else can.
Right, but he gets it out to the public.
Thank you for posting this while I have been mostly offline, RIP Thomas!
If I can make a suggestion, there are other things that I know others screenshot that needs to be included, such as a post a while back where it was mentioned that the HS had offered to help with hay, too.
She had also made a comment on that deleted thread about “how hard it was to make that post.” which shows that she was fully aware of the ramifications as to what she was saying.
These entire things also needs to go to the CVMB, as well, showing the threat of needless euthanasia for animals that she does not own. Don’t forget that both agencies are working together since the order came down that the horses are owned by the public and not Michelle. It will take me a while to go find that email address again and when I do, I will post it.
I think the girls trying to adopt these horses out are doing a fantastic job! Not them in particular, but what should have been done all along. It is well known, from reliable sources, that M has thwarted many adoptions and offers of Sancturary. People now expect all these other rescues to step up and clean up her mess. Most actually run on budgets, don’t take in more then they can afford and most are at capacity themselves. If she loses her 501c3, which, one would hope, is likely, she cannot just start selling stuff that belong to the rescue, not her. I will try to find those again. She doesn’t seem all that concerned. I am questioning this June 30th date. Do the horses just have to be out of there or the residents also?
June 30th is just a date she set. She doesn’t have to abide by it and probably won’t if she can find a money stream to keep her hoarding habit going. She’s not planning on leaving that ranch until she is forced to, whether HiCaliber is active or not
HC & VI quickly forgot about melanoma-mare sold to the ‘MX rodeo’. They pilfered minimum $827 off of her ($330 on FB + $497 on better-unite). She seems to have vaporized like so many others…wonder if she even lives/lived in CA.
She did
Have been watching that too. There have been requests for updates that are going unanswered. Oh, missed the $497! So, was she euthanized or is that in somebody’s pocket? Someone ask, if you can.
Well the Idiot of the Day award goes to……drum roll……Catherine Thompson-Cronin. OMG she must drink a gallon of HiKill Koolaide a day. She is one of their staunchest supporters and prolific posters.
If HiKill says it so it must be true, here is one of her recent posts, “Oh ok HiCaliber doesn’t have real vets ..really im sorry but on the HG page it’s clear they do”
She is also down for the whole “Haters” gig that Manson preaches. she is blaming the Haters for HiKill not having hay to feed the horses. Oh Catherine, you need and intervention, whatever will you do when you don’t have HiKill to live vicariously through.
She is a nasty, nasty one. Everything is the hater’s fault. She has no clue. Don’t these idiots see long-time donors being deleted before their eyes in real time? They still don’t find that suspicious? Imbeciles.
Hard to think it was only a year ago they were raking money in hand over fist with that Louisiana crap. Harder to think how many horses she’s shot in the face or allowed to suffer in the last 12 months.
If they want to know why the rescue horses have no hay, ask how many personal horses of M’s have being fed for years. Ask where M gets the money for her nails, lashes and car payments. Ask who pays the rent there while a bunch of able bodied adults choose not to work for a living. THAT’s why there is no money for hay now.
So she deleted the entire “send me money or I will shoot the horses” post…and now claims it just “sounded” as though it was written by her…but it wasn’t? Oh good grief. Anyone who buys her crawfishing routine is a fool. Authorities included. I suppose I may be forced to listen to her live “explanation”. Unless someone here cares to summarize it?
Don’t engage
Forgive
Stay off social media
Kids are traumatized
She is mourning
Send money
No name for the person that supposedly wrote that post? Shocking.
And thank you for sparing me the torture of watching those lying bloated lips moving.
visceral response
such grief & fear everyone has over HC closing
she cries when she sees HC sign in her driveway…should she put it in storage or burn it? What should she do w/ her pamphlets?
they’re having water/well probs….so the horses that never get any water still won’t get any…but now Manson & The Remoras won’t get any water either, so she’ll care about that
I vote she should burn them. Isn’t fire what kills evil?
You for got `Nothing is my fault’ and `Because..haters’.
I just assumed that those were kind of a given
She should drive a stake through them. That is what kills evil. Then burn them.
Right! Forgot about the stake part first. Been so long since I’ve had to actually deal with this level of evil personally.
Apparently we are also all damaged and seeking to rescue in order to fix something? Well darn. I guess I better stop training horses for my local rescue, my life has been far too wonderful, I’m not allowed to help horses! I worked at a place for a while whose owners had a soft spot for hiring ‘project people’ with rough backgrounds. Too many of those makes a mess! And I’m sorry for my facetiousness to those who actually have had some pretty rough times, I’m not trying to minimize the legitimate struggles of the people on this page (some of whom are pretty damn inspiring!) but seriously M! Project much? People have different backgrounds and follow their own individual paths. The biggest difference is that we all came to rescue because we love horses, not because we love money.
I give my time voluntarily to train at our local rescue. Dozens of people give their time to feed day to day, organize projects, move horses, groom, socialize, fund-raise, do paperwork, etc. and not one person gets a dime from it. One board member just purchased a large amount of tack for the rescue. We wanted to find a way to have better tack so that we can properly train and showcase the horses, but the rescue couldn’t afford it. So she responded by just purchasing it and handing it to the rescue. Can anyone even imagine something like that happening at HC? It just can’t compute!
In more fun news…. it was a bit of a quiet live feed for the drinking game. I was shocked that I didn’t hear “exigent” even once. On the other hand “tear each other apart” has officially made the game list. (P.S., “haterz” is not on the list, because that would probably make the game fatal and we don’t want that!! 😉 )
Lol, I drink for a good time and I won’t lie, I drink a lot. I would never play the HiC drinking game, it’s too much for me 🤣🤣🤣
I don’t have nearly the alcohol tolerance needed to play the HiC drinking game. I’d be legless in five minutes.
I’m the same way…
Maybe we could create a chocolate game instead?
No way! I love my horses and tack too much to engage in that level of chocolate gluttony.
Oh well, I guess I’ll just have to fail forward on that idea
LOL! Good choices on the drinking game!
I will say that rescue generally does attract broken people, but that is not to say that everybody involved is that way. You don’t have to be broken to have compassion for other living creatures. For many of us that have made our living in the horse industry, it’s a way to give back and motivated by our love for these animals. Manson should go back to her crayons because the strokes of the brush she’s trying to paint us all with are too broad.
Gah, I’m not sure I posted that where I meant to…. sorry about that
Right. I thought I took a SS of that but didn’t. Anyone get it? If she didn’t put that up, who the hell did? Romney, Amanda? Who else would even feel they would have the authority to make a post like that? I call BS again. Nope, M, that didn’t stick either. On to the next script.
M is trying to put out fires now. She just did a short live where, if I got this right, she didn’t say she was going to euthanize the horses. She said an admin put out the post and she didn’t write it, or authorize it. Must be a pretty big bus she drives to throw so many people under. 🤔 She also said she hasn’t spoke to the HS about the help they offered. She was begging the villagers to stay off the hater, and other groups. As she claims she doesn’t go to the hater groups, yeah right, and only sometimes the drama groups, the village needs to stay away too and their lives will be better. She’s encouraging anyone who was banned recently to message/email her and it can be straightened out. Must have realized they banned a bunch of regular villagers there.
but yet she’s “willing to forgive”…barf
She hasn’t spoken to HS but didn’t she say HS had reached out to them not so long ago?
didn’t someone say HS had offered to give HC hay & Manson refused it? Yet she had no prob taking supplies/hay at DelMar from actual fire-victims.
It’s a little late for damage control, Manson should have thought of that before she alienated everyone. She needs to call off her dogs they are not doing her any good either.
The AG, HS or some other entity called her this morning, I’d bet money on it. She can’t shoot horses because she can’t afford feed period. They are not her horses. So much wrong with her lying about the dramatic post she wrote and posted yet denies. She is only fooling herself and the people that continue to enable her.
She is going to have to put the heating pad on her jaws after that l-o-n-g “poor me” tirade.
Apparently she has not yet read ‘Backpedaling 101 For Dummies’
LOL!
She didn’t have a list either Perlino TLL. Perhaps you can make one.
I would make a list but frankly I’m stumped! So many options to choose from. Where to start? Hmmm…
1. Tell the truth the first time; so you don’t mess up your story. Oh wait…
2. The second time you retell it; make sure to embellish your role. It’s all about YOU! Make sure to drag in pathetic abused horses too which you bought from criminals and look even worse now as they have declined in your ‘care’.
3. The third time you spin; it make sure your hair is purple for distraction from any pesky facts. Wear scrubs to attempt to look officially like a not Veterinarian.
4. Change it up again and blame the entire universe, a forth time. It wasn’t YOUR fault. It never is.
5. Don’t forget to add the ‘poor me’ for maximum returns on spin #5. The universe is against you. It might be the fault of your volunteers. Heaven forbid.
6. The world is flat. That’s your story #6 and anyone with a different opinion is labeled a HATER. The list of haters has become much larger than the flat liners.
7. The seventh spin may involve a cast of misfits trying to spin a poopy fable into anything resembling story #1. Oh wait here we go again!
8. The eighth spin includes actor/actress wannabes wearing loads of cheap black mascara who cry for the camera on demand. Repeat this whenever #1-#7 fails to generate enough donations.
9. The ninth spin involves attempting to intimidate and bully anyone in spin #6 above; that do not worship flat liners.
10. Spin #10. Wash, rinse, repeat. Again and again. So much BS, so little time. Be sure to continue to think highly of your skanky self. It’s all about self importance.
Perlino TLL
LMAO!!!
Omg, Perlino TLL, you’re the best! Nailed it.
The owner of Carmena Quarter Horses has died. Look at the horses just sent to Thompson’s. Here is a link to Carmena quarter horses, http://carmenaquarterhorses.com/CQH%20-%20Sale%20Mares.htm
And their video below. $850 each.
I haven’t had a chance to look at this yet, but I see it originates from Randi Collier, so would advise to do your own research and verifying on this.
In fact, Charlie Carmena passed away in 2015, so something is really wrong here
Why would my comment be waiting moderation?
The links. It holds the links for moderation.
first time it happened to me, is why I asked. And I’ve posted links before.
And wow that post was passed around 44 minutes before i posted it here.
It is an iffy deal. Sometimes it lets some go through, others have to be approved by myself or Shed before they post. No clue why.
What makes me sick is they talk about those being family horses, and they pride themselves on providing many families with horses but the moment the old guys dead his horses got sold to Thompson’s with papers in hand.
Old guy has been dead for 3 years.
Izabelle Kapp Just curious… why 2 loads of hay with less horses now?
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Christina Holshouser I believe they said they still have to pay for the last load, as well as this one that’s coming tomorrow 😊
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Gotta love IK. She asks really appropriate questions, unfortunately the answers never quite make sense.
Less horses does mean they need less hay and not to forget, what happens Jun 30?
Another thing M should learn from being the p poor CEO that she is, is never let your followers be the mouth piece for your organization. Not to forget just don’t scam people, commit fraud, embezzlement, tax evasion, practice veterinary medicine without a license and neglect and abuse horses might also be a good place to start.
AG
She needs (uses) volunteers for two things.
1. Unpaid labor
2. Someone to blame for her failures
3. 1+2=3. Give volunteers the proverbial boot
and start fresh.
Regards
Perlino TLL
Does anyone think that HC was able to get their last hay load without cash upon delivery? I don’t think so. I think they paid for their last hay load with cash as required per most hay deliveries as well as the idea that everyone on the planet knows that HC’s donations are down and they are closing or so they say. Why would a hay company take a chance on not getting paid for a truck load of hay? It’s not the same as 20 bales. That doesn’t make sense. IK is exactly correct in the fact that they should not need as much hay. Jun 30 right around the corner…..Tick Tock…
I think they owed the money. I am thinking they likely didn’t pay for this current load in full either. This is also nothing new. They are constantly in arrears to their various vendors from what I’m told. Let’s see if the Village idiots can rally to pay something like 13k worth of vet bills for past services without actually seeing the bills. Remember last year when they were constantly having these expensive procedures done on horses and always raising money? Wonder how everything all of a sudden got healthier and nothing ever needs surgery any more.
I also remember when they were asking for 7500.00 for hay and claimed that it would last about 2 weeks, and when I placed money down on the bill at the hay supplier, they told me that the cost of the load that they had just delivered was 1230.00.
Those scammers never cease to amaze me.
I would think with less horses a full load would be lasting longer, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.
Not with Michelle’s hands in the till. Exaggerate the numbers, and siphon off the excess.
she talked about supporting her kids n her live feed the other day. She hasn’t had a job in years, so wonder how she’s supporting them?
Do sad to think that the hay supplier must have been lying to you 😢
because we all KNOW that M & Co. would never lie, they are the epitome of transparent.
(Sometimes I literally crack myself up)
And honesty, don’t forget.
PS, being an engineer, lists are great. TY
Of course, I do believe that post about euthanasia was written by her, due to the fact that she posted later down there that “the post was so hard for her to write,” yada yada yada.
Haha. Caught in her own lie by her own hand….
Is there a SS if that comment saved anywhere???
Yes.
If not her, dictated by her.
This was priceless. ” While I didn’t author or post it, I understand the voice it was written in sounded like me.”
Um, that’s because it was, and everyone knew it. It was verified within the round of comments when she informs people that the post was so difficult for her to write.
she also said similar verbage in Chiefy post, near the end she wrote if they couldn’t afford to feed them, they’d have to relinquish them to a municipal agency and “that cannot be an option.” The thought of HS taking “her” horses (or seizing them) really miffs her.
LOL, AG! I just read that. Thank you, IK, again. Gotta love her.
Poor Izzy. I do believe she means well and they talk so much shit about her.
M’s loudest mouthpieces are people that have never been near HiCaliber aka Parsons and Big Lick Larkin.
Honesty is the best policy, marinate on that Manson. Had you given that more thought your life would be much different now. You could have made a positive difference, but you chose the low road and to abuse good hearted people and crippled sick horses for personal gain. After all that has happened you are still using the same old tired victimization ploy to exhort money. Get a clue, it’s over, finished, good times grifting a thing of the past. Your glory days are a memory, deal with it .
Has Manson received an eviction notice from the owner or been given a deadline to vacate the ranch?
I believe that all residences of the ranch have been evicted. I do not know the details, but the notice has occurred.
Thanks AG. I though I had read that as well, but wanted to verify.
Why aren’t they honest with their supporters about this whole situation? Boggles the mind at the lies they spew and that people believe this BS.
Now that the supporters have been told to stay away from all of the non HC pages they won’t see any other angle than the BS that they are being fed by M
Manson, Wrinkles and some other ranch residents can’t seem to stay off those pages even now.
I guess they won’t be getting their cleaning deposits back, huh?
They’ll be lucky not to get sued.
If I were the property owner, I would sue but can’t get blood from a turnip. I have always questioned that lease/option. Seemed like a risky contract to do with a non-profit with no set income or assets. You have to hold the owner somewhat responsible for not having more oversight as to what the hell was going on there. Now, look how that has worked out.
RRR, the y will see it here or on the other pages unless of course the Kool-Aid is in full brew mode. I can’t believe they would ‘follow’ to that extent, but then again I think of Jim Jones.
M certainly has an extremely elevated opinion of her horsemanship skills. It kind of makes me want to see a horse go sideways and see how the big horse whisperer handles it. I don’t see anything in her skill set that makes me think she is even an average skilled horse person. She had very limited skills.
She’s delusional. She’s no horse whisperer, she has zero connection with the horses she’s shown in her live feeds.
I sprain my eyes I roll them so hard when she starts talking training philosophies and trying to sound all hood about it. No Manson, the horse doesn’t want you to buy him dinner first and no they aren’t your ride or die. I mostly notice how any horse she is riding or handling is not focused on her and none of them seem to show any affection or connection to her. They best I’ve seen is robotic/drugged. Zero natural ability or talent.
She talks a big game though. I wonder what occurred right before the video was recorded with them riding. You get a glimpse of the horse reacting to something at the very beginning. Perhaps reacting to the incoming needle. You can’t tell me all of these horses that she rides have no reaction whatsoever to cars, bikes, etc. Seems a tad bit fishy to me considering the lack of handling at the feedlot.
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Gia Lyn Oh who’s the lucky one that got him? I had a couple friends trying to adopt him, they didn’t get any response:(
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HiCaliber Horse Rescue He was adopted but with the intent of helping him find a home. He will be looking for a home once his abcess heals and the fee will still be going to the rescue. AlphaMare17@yahoo.com
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Gia Lyn ? So he’s adopted but they don’t want him? Or is he being fostered somewhere?
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Gia Lyn I can foster him, and adopt to a permanent home, abscess not a big deal
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HiCaliber Horse Rescue Then please email the alphamare email address. Adoptions do not occur through comments. Please. 😊
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Why would HC say a horse was adopted but with the intent of helping him find a home? I would think if a horse was adopted, that meant the horse had a home. Aren’t they trying to adopt out all of the horses? Or are they just trying to adopt or ‘dump’ the horses they don’t want? I don’t get it. Why the games? Why not just email HC adoptions to adopt a HC horse? Why do you have to email the alpha mare? This is the exact same kind of stuff that got them in trouble. Not doing things on the up and up.
Because I imagine that the plan was for Michelle to be able to adopt most of the rideable horses that she likes in order to flip them herself later with the funding going into her own pocket, assuming that people would be too stupid to figure that out. Most people caught onto it from the get go once she started listing “personal project horses,” and began notifying the AG to let them pursue it if they choose to do so, considering that is yet another textbook case of M using the charitable assets to benefit herself. It will be interesting if the agencies do choose to follow that trail, but truthfully I am not certain that they would.
So yet another horse M adopted that the donors are supporting. I hope she gets nailed to the wall for that too. So much misuse of funds it makes anyone working hard for what they have just want to swat her in the face with a chair. That is a figure of speech for the people that want to say that it is anything else.
Btw, I’ve never seen that persons name come up on the HC page, and it appears as only the last of the die hard regulars are around, so I’m not even sure if it’s not just another one of M’s fake profiles to get a horse some exposure thru non transparent ways.
Who’s that? “Alphamare?” That is M’s personal email.
There is already so much fodder for the investigating agencies to consume, I wonder if they are on overload?
I question any foster or adoption that goes right to the Alpha Mare. *snort* Adopted with the intent of finding him a new home sounds an awful lot like flipping.
Ya think? Notice that she made it a point to claim that the money will go back into the rescue, which is great–but you already know that wasn’t the original plan because there was no reason to adopt him herself . He would have stayed the property of the rescue and been adopted out there with the funds going directly to where they are supposed to go. She is her own worst enemy in creating a paper trail that can be checked easily enough by the authorities should they choose to do so. I wonder how she would explain that to them if they ask? ooh, maybe if we get lucky we will get a copy of that transcript, as well, so that we can giggle over the answers.
I am just sick of her lying piehole, as we all are! As amusing as it all can be, which is often, I can’t wait for her to be served or hauled away. All her bullshit about putting on a brave face but dying on the inside just makes me angry. So here I sit, pointing out the obvious because the waiting is the hardest part. 😀
I read that stuff and just here and shake my head. Hard to believe people are still falling for this crap. All about the $$$
I have a hard time with that. It’s like they can’t stand the idea of being wrong.
NDTC only to those people who possess critical thinking skills, the V’s who did have that are probably all gone.
In a nutshell… It’s a little scary just how incapable of an independent thought they are.
That post is made in reference to Braveheart, who has been decidedly absent of late. I sure hope she didn’t take him for a long walk out back and is covering her tracks. No talk of abscesses when they announced his “adoption” weeks ago. Something smells fishy… and it’s not the Craigslist undies.
Oh no! Craigslist undies!
I just can’t with the horses disappearing… She’s such a creeper.
I’m worried about what type of abscess Braveheart has. I hope he’s ok, especially after dragging that lying bitch around everywhere.
I do too considering how skinny he was and how ill fitting their tack is. A hoof abscess resolves fairly quickly with proper care in my experience as far as a horse being sound or not.
I still don’t know how Braveheart managed to go over hill and dale, with somewhere around 300 pounds (I’m including the tack) and being underweight. That horse lives up to his name.
*Sidenote*
Speaking of pounds… Has anyone gone to the fair and tried those unicorn cupcakes? They seem to be calling to my inner child.
Unicorn cupcakes? What are they?
Hope the link works.
https://www.10news.com/news/photos-unicorn-food-deep-fried-goodness-at-the-san-diego-county-fair#id3
Yummy! Those look awesome . (Like I need any more fat!)
They do look tasty. I don’t know if your a baker but there is a recipe (it’s not completely from scratch) for wedding cake cupcakes and buttercream frosting. Really tasty and pretty easy!
I don’t need to eat those cupcakes or any other fried foods but at some point I’m gonna!
Oh yummy! Those do look good!
Right???
Wow! Nice find AG! If that’s not super duper obvious of what everyone has been suspecting, I’m not sure what is? M “adopting” from the dollar menu to sell at a later date. I’m just not sure why, when there is so much heat on her, that she would have another horse on that property? She should be financing it’s cost, yet we all know it is being cared for by donor funds.
Because she took him for herself and got caught
Well as of this morning they have managed to raise just over the $12,000 hay fundraiser goal.
I’m sure this was due to the fire that was lit by the posted post that was removed the following morning that was not written by Mason or posted by Mason or posted with Masons approval. You know the post that basically stated I’m not going to let the horses starve; so unless you pay up now; I’m going to have no other choice but to start shooting horses.
Mason has been working really really hard on winding down the rescue. So much so she is riding on the beach. Wonder if margaritas were involved. Oh maybe just cocktails for the horses?
Perlino TLL
just tallied FB donations over past 3 weeks, since 5/24 they got $3380 from hay begs & begs to shoot 4 horses in the face
Rice & 2 unnamed over Mem.Day + melanoma-mare…no mention of any of those 4 horses since
And I notice now that they reached the $12000 that there is no mention of it. But before it was reached they were constantly saying how much they were short.
The 12 thousand plus, does not include the mail in donations, Facebook donations and the text donations, she has had the money she is just being a greedy bitch! Also doesn’t include adoption fees she has been getting, albeit some have probably only been 1.00
I saw a ss of a comment on HC (probably long gone now) where the person knew some people who had adopted horses that had received no care and their $1 price somehow ended up in the $300-$550 range.
Not sure of this particular incident, but I know in the case of some horses being returned to their original owners *OTTB/Iwobi* they were `strongly’ encouraged to make a very generous donation before getting their horses back and that’s all I got to say about that 😉
Stuff that should have been done by the rescue adds up.
Farrier $40
Vet field call $55
Dental $180
Vaccines $80
X-rays $60+
Blood work $80+++
Wormers $10+
These are just averages but we all know how quick it goes.
Ass wipes. I can’t wait until the IRS and the AG catch up to her and her barnacles asses. She acts like she’s doing a great thing by advertising horses that she herself did not adequately care for, for a reasonable adoption fee of $1, then has the nerve to play on the potential adopters emotions to increase the adoption fee. Does she realize she is closing? Maybe by her own choice at this point, but the horses need homes, not games. I’ve heard the upmarking game on horses well before she announced she was closing. One of her scamming tools aka bait and switch. That is yet another reason I get peed off when ppl start saying we have to help the horses, yet the biggest hurdle in getting the horses adopted is still the biggest hurdle. Move over M. You’re in your own way.
Replying to Shedrow’s comment:
Boy doesn’t that sound Sheidy.
Love it! She ransomed horses, too. See what I did there? Damn I ought to get triple points for that score.
That ^^^^^^^
Are horses still coming in to HC, not shown on FB? It seems most of the drama right now is about what’s being said, rather than the usual parade of hurting horses.
Of course, things seem to change with HC in short cycles. Attention is not allowed to wander.
I wonder if her ‘personal’ horses are being stashed somewhere else? You know for safe keeping. Along with the other residents ‘personal’ horses. That’s like a whole herd of horses! I have no idea the exact number? Shedrow do you know? Or is it a fluid number?
It amazes me that all those people with zero earned income; own horses other people pay for. Talk about entitlement! Owning horses is an expensive privilege; not a right.
Hello VI; wake up and smell the roses! 🌹
Perlino
On “HiCaliber chats, All Sides!” Someone posted a li st of all adopted horses and in comments Rene names all the horses that M and her barnacles own
That would be nice to send in. I know that a few were named along with the estimated cost of upkeep in order to give the AG an idea opf how much more she is spending to keep the horses that she and the ass barnacles are keeping on donor dollars, plus the prices donors paid in order for M to “adopt” them herself for $1.00, etc. as well as her ads for “personal project horses,” that she was selling on the side, also paid for by donor dollars as well as their upkeep on the ranch. It’s a twisted trail they have to follow. After all, some of them were seen at auction, with pictures of them in the trailers, and no notice of them were ever provided to donors. 😉
LOL
It’s fluid!
They ought to be thanking you for not posting their entire bankruptcy history online, despite it being a public record and online already 😉 Gee, Shed, you’ve proven yourself to be a nicer person than they are !
That’s a pretty low bar though.
True.
#lifegoals
Oh, and, it seems the villagers are fine for Michelle to “adopt them all”. They are fine to pay for that. And pay for it. And pay for it …
At least the ones that are left … who don’t seem to have money to pay for anything, actually.
And for those long distance ones, then they will be lost when M won’t be able to solicit funds on the internet any more. They will simply be forced to keep sending money but won’t be able to mention it because if they do..they can count on it being seen somewhere and reported with additional charges following. Pennsylvania was big on that and asked many of the people involved to send in any evidence found on the internet if she were seen to be doing so. I think that order was in effect for a few years after the case.
So in essence, they will be forced to continue supporting her like an unemployed 50 year old child that can’t support themselves.
Hope they plan on welcoming her to their family!
Finally, an update on that melanoma mare!
HiCaliber Horse Rescue Hey all…I apologize. I replied to someone on another post and thought it was this one.
One of the rescues we referred him to called AC on him (per AC). The buyer got scared and decided he didn’t want to sell back. I’ve gently been keeping in touch with the former owner hoping he will help to convince the buyer to let us buy her back. He said he already sold her but the story changes so I’ve asked the flippers to be on the look out. I’m hoping to make progress by early next week. If we cannot get her we will issue a refund or apply it to the next CP, donors preference.
Is that perfectly clear? I hope those Donors ask for their money back as it would be interesting to see how that works. They can then redonate for hay to feed the ones left at the ranch!
Clearly more projections
She’s asked her friends the flippers to be on the look out. How nice of you M. Good thing you are in tight with the flippers. News flash. You are who you hang with. I do not believe for a hot second that AC told HC anything about any other rescues business.
If the followers can believe that so incredibly messy story, as they have time and time again, they deserve to be be mislead.
If it doesn’t make sense, it probably isn’t true. Judge Judyism.
Oh brother!
This must have been not written by a not you; you know who; because it doesn’t make any sense at all. Yes that must be the excuse for total and utter BS. Good!
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I like the not so subtle suggestion that in the other rescue calling AC, the mare may not possibly be saved.
How can you buy something back if you’ve never owned it? I’ve never understood her saying that.
Yes Bobthedog! 😂 That bothers me every time I read/hear it!
That never made sense to me either.
Considering the horse was at Nacho’s I’m going to call BS on it. Read latest post.
Sounds like Mas all over again, doesn’t it?
Almost like some of those pics were recycled even.
I considered that, too but was too tired to go scope them out. Maybe they will leave up the post fundraising for her even after she is dead (just like mas, as well) and they neglect to tell the donors that small fact.
I guess she updated today kinda sorta. I’m not really sure what to believe at this point.