Here it is the weekend already. It seems I just get started with one post and then the Manson family shits their pants and I have to change directions. My draft file is a mess right now. There has been a lot of doings at the feed lot ranch this week and I’m pretty sure most of it is going to piss people off. Some of this stuff is going to seem like old news, but sometimes one thing gets mentioned or posted and, all of a sudden, it jogs some memories and pieces get put together. That’s a lot of what today’s post is going to be about. I strongly suggest a cocktail to wade through this mess with me. It’s a bit of a mixed bag as far as posts go. I would like to warn some people that at least one of the pictures that will be further down this post may be upsetting, but it kinda has to be done. If you have delicate sensibilities, cover the pics with your hands as you scroll until you figure if you can deal or not. I’ll warn you before you get to it. So, without further ado let’s get this thing started.
The screen shots above might explain to our newer readers why I refer to Dana as `Cheech’. That would be the same Dana that owns and operates Equine Connections LLC Horse Transportation. Apparently she’s doing well enough that she just got a new 5 horse slant with living quarters to go with her 4 horse stock. Note that the dates on this little text conversation are from two years ago. That means at least two full years that Cheech has been hauling HiCaliber and other people’s horses with Charles Manson Michelle being fully aware she was basically a bong on wheels. Two full years that Manson recommended her to other people to haul their horses knowing she was hopped up when she drove. How many trips back and forth to Louisiana? How many fosters, adoptions and auction horses has she hauled? We know she only recently got her DOT#, so besides the fact she was buzzed off her ass, she wasn’t even legal until recently. Awesome! I understand loyalty and I understand wanting to help out a friend if that’s what they are, but to put those animals and other people’s animals at risk with an altered driver behind the wheel is totally messed up. The official reaction to this will either be to throw Cheech under the bus, maybe a defiant post or they’ll ignore it and cover Cheech’s ass like they have before. It certainly explains some of the mysterious hauling injuries they have glossed over in the past.
I’m sure most of you have seen this post where Manson threatens to kill some horses. Once again, she owns no part in any of their issues or tells the entire story. That’s why I posted the screen shot from Chi’s previous adoptive family as well. I think it shows that not only is it not the fault of the horses that they are becoming problematic but, at least in Chi’s case, they were set up to fail. Adopting out a horse and telling somebody she will grow is kinda shitty when you know what their expectations are. Was it deliberate? I can’t say. It was either a deliberate lie banking on the kid falling in love, which she did, or Manson’s ability to age a horse via their teeth is about on par with her vet skills. Take your pick. It might be a bit of both. As of this writing people are scrambling around offering up suggestions, including sending them to Fice, and offering to take these horses. I’m sure that was the goal all along. If we know one thing about Manson, it’s that she doesn’t usually tell people before she’s going to shoot one in the face. In fact, she often never mentions it at all to the village. She straight up threatened these two knowing it would motivate people to get them out of there. Hopefully, it works. I’m always happy see a horse rescued out of that particular situation.
Sereen is a mare that HiCaliber purchased last June. They never really did much for updates on her before this February when they announced she was pregnant. Now, if you do the math, she was either just pregnant when they bought her or she got knocked up on the property, which wouldn’t surprise me either. The point of this is that here we are a year later and finally somebody remembers this mare enough to ask after the foal. I’m not sure they were doing foal checks to help her deliver that premature foal nor do I know why she went from being up for adoption as a riding horse to a pasture puff. What has happened to this horse between February and now that she is no longer considered suitable for riding? This case of the missing foal is by no means unique and the next bit may be somewhat upsetting, so cover the pics and scroll on by if you’re not into it. We have to jump in our time machine and go back a few years to when there were a pair of horses called Salma and Kat, aka Kasatka, at HiCaliber.
Ok, this part is going to maybe be a bit confusing as it all went down at the old ranch almost 4 years ago. Both these mares showed up around the same time at HiCaliber and shared a pen. The age of Kat was reported as 3, then as 5 and maybe 18mths. We already know that Manson Michelle isn’t all that great at aging horses and her story on Kat changed, so let’s just say she was a young mare. Notice that the write-up about Kat on their website talks about her losing a foal and how sad the horse was and how sad the people were. It’s a very touching story. What actually happened was that Manson had the vet attempt to abort the foal because they thought she was too young to carry one. They usually do this with an injection which was apparently the case with Kat but, as you can see in the text above, it didn’t take. Reportedly, Manson had the vet come out and try again to abort the mare and the result was that Manson told everybody that she found the fetus in the pen with the mares after the second attempt and considered it a successful abortion. Flash forward a few months and Kat is in a pen by herself. This is when somebody other than Manson came across the fetus pictured above in her pen. It could have belonged to no other horse. That means a few different things. It means that a few months prior, when Kat was thought to have aborted her fetus on demand, that there was never any follow-up veterinary care nor was she flushed as should have been done. It also means the fetus that Michelle claims to have found was likely Salma’s and she obviously didn’t get any veterinary care either. I’ve been told that Salma’s miscarriage was around a time that there were several miscarriages going on with a certain batch of mares. Manson has told a few different stories about Kat’s fetus and since it’s a few years after the fact, we’ll probably never get a straight story from her now. What we know without a doubt is there was at least one fetus and that at least one of the stories that was told to people was a lie. The happy news is that Kat has since found a home and Salma now belongs to Cheech. I’m sure a little contact THC goes a long ways towards keeping her happy.
The horse above was HiCaliber Wrangler. I can’t actually find too many details of his arrival at HiCaliber. That is often the case with HiCaliber horses that are no longer with us. They are immediately removed from their web page and never spoken of again. We do know that Wrangler was at HiCaliber last year and feeling sound enough to haul Charles Manson Michelle’s spandexed ass around the barn area as she begged for money. This was the day before he had surgery to remove cancer from his manhood which took place in the beginning of September 2016. Aside from his recheck a few weeks later and the odd casual mention, we didn’t really hear much about Wrangler again. We do know his surgery was more extensive than they originally thought and they ended up sinking a couple thousand into him. Remember, this was a horse sound enough to be hauling Manson around the day before his surgery. By the end of December, Wrangler was expunged from the website and never mentioned again. What actually happened is that he was shot in the face at some point during December, probably before Manson headed off to Hawaii on the donor dollar along with fellow board member Kat Tarnowski. What was noted by volunteers was that Wrangler was extremely lame and in a lot of pain at the end and Dr. Spini was unable to figure out why or pinpoint the source. What finally came out with some digging, is that during the heavy rains, Wrangler was in one of those tiny pens/stalls in the training area and he slipped, fell and was unable to get up. This was not an old or unsound horse, so I can only imagine the conditions. From that point on, he was in a lot of pain and never improved. Naturally, none of the village idiots ever think to ask whatever became of him, so he passed without so much as a mention. RIP Wrangler.
I’ve noticed that ever since the Louisiana clusterfuck, HiCaliber has been very selective about which of those horses they update people on and what they show. We’ve all seen the healthier ones eating their grain at the hitching rail for the cameras and the village idiots high five each other and then return to jonesing for the next auction or drama. It’s pretty rare they ask after specific horses from that mess and even I couldn’t tell you who they all were since some were whisked off to other homes almost immediately. Firetyme was on the original load out of Louisiana so he’s been at HiCaliber about a month. He was in pretty bad need of some groceries when he arrived as evident in the intake photo above. However, as of 2 days ago, he has lost even more weight and is basically a hide covered skeleton. Manson likes to brag that she follows the UC Davis refeeding protocol but that fact is they don’t. You cannot follow it when you are group feeding and also throwing feed at them twice a day is not part of the protocol. They should have several small meals throughout the day. They should have their feed tubs cleaned out and fresh at every feeding as soaked feed can and will go rancid in a hurry in hot weather. None of this has been done and it’s still not being done. Firetyme is up in the barn now getting a mush diet, but it’s likely too little, too late. I haven’t heard whether a real vet has done any actual diagnostics on him or if he’s even had blood pulled for anything other than Manson’s stupid SAA machine. Calling animal control in does no good because not only is board member Kat an AC officer, but HiCaliber is supposed to be a rescue so they’ll just say he came like that. I can’t express how disgusted I am with the condition of this animal. He is suffering. He’s been suffering and starving to death, for whatever reason, at least since he got to California. How do people walk by this horse every day and not see this?
While most of you are sitting there fuming about dead horses, missing horses and all manner of treachery out of this hell hole, I thought this was an interesting find. Back in November Charles Manson Michelle was asking around about dental implants because it seemed she didn’t like her grill. I’m not sure how many of the readers here have had cosmetic dental work, but I can assure you it isn’t cheap. Even if you slip across the border to Mexico, it’s still expensive. It would be especially expensive for somebody that claims to have no income and living off the generosity of her girlfriend. Let’s face it, Bang Bang Becky is a fire captain not a captain of industry so I have real doubts she is funding the BMW, the eyebrows that never stop migrating around on Manson’s forehead and all the other needless shit she has done on a weekly basis along with keeping food on the table and two other vehicles and trailers running. That’s not even to mention the herd of horses they have between the pair of them. What does this have to do with the horses and the rescue? EVERYTHING. While horses are starving, dying and under threat of getting shot because they can’t afford the training, this is what is going on. While they beg and manipulate their villagers into giving up their lunch money, they aren’t giving a single fucking dime. Then we find out she keeps a cash donation box at the house, while whining about people bothering her, and regularly dips from it. That’s where the $20 `suggested donation’ to tour that shit pile goes to. Is that ever entered into their books or account for? Probably not. Think about it.
I have a LOT more stuff to share, but I think this probably enough to deal with for one day. The horse above is one I couldn’t find any other information on. He too has been erased from all things HiCaliber as far as I could find. Just another poor soul that had his life ended standing in a shit filled pen at HiCaliber. I’m really not sure how this qualifies as rescue. Really, as far as the horses are concerned, it’s not a whole bunch different from slaughter. They are hauled in to stand in tiny pens with food thrown at them, maybe their water tubs will get filled and cleaned and maybe they won’t on any given day. After doing that for months on end, many of them get a bullet in the face that may or may not find it’s mark on the first try. Meanwhile, HiCaliber never posts a single invoice, rarely a vet report or xray and the village idiots just eat it up as the assembly line of carnage keeps turning. It was only a few days ago we were treated to a pair of woe is me posts from Manson and Romney Faye Baker begging for kindness and reminding us, yet again, that Manson had broken her back and Romney was grieving. In other words, stop questioning them on their shit and turn a blind eye. Fall back into line, village idiots! Little Margaret came home from the clinic and aside from a picture of her, no real medical update because Manson is resting up for her big drunken fundraiser with the Bonsall Rotary on Saturday. They even photo shopped a poster to make it seem that the fund raiser is all about them. It’s not, it benefits other charities too. Meanwhile they brought in 5 new nameless horses today. Four mares and a stud, which also meant that the three they bought on Tuesday are already out of QT and the new stud never was in QT. Will they ever tell people about them? Who knows? Romney Faye already told us that they don’t always announce owner relinquished horses if that’s what these even are. Much easier to make the disappear that way. I’m obviously not alone in feeling like things are coming to a head. I’m going to sign off with a screen cap of a post made back in April. Rats off a sinking ship and all that….
“We did an update that she’s home. Again… With the ambient conditions I’m not finding many volunteers willing to go on camera. Michelle has been back in the hospital, Romney mourning her child. Our silence isn’t intentional… Simply unavoidable given the situation at hand. For years we’ve updated on time every time. This one occasion we chose to put ourselves first. We are doing the best we can.”
“On this occasion” and every single other occasion that doesn’t put hikill in a favorable light. And Michelle is “back” in the hospital? oh my god.
Also, they keep using that word. They’re not using that word correctly, “ambient”
It’s their word of the week. Everything is ambient. That word is now dead to me.
This is so very sad. The words AUSCHWITZ –MENGELE–AUSCHWITZ—MENGELE keep rolling through my brain. I am 2000 miles away or I would pull/foster/adopt at least a couple of those poor horses.
Yes perhaps Manson is back in the hospital for “Trigger Finger”
Lol! Maybe she pulled something in her broken back shooting all those horses.
Maybe she admitted herself for observation?
I think Margaret must not be doing well. Or worse. Otherwise they’d answer. If they are all so overwhelmed, the responsible thing would be to skip auction. But of course they won’t.
They just put up a video of Margaret
I saw that post regarding Posh has disappeared. So Transparent, right. Who is the wrong person HiC chose to ignore and ban? I’m not seeing it reposted on the original posters FB page? Just a little confused….
It’s there, if your not a friend or follower of her, you may not be able to see the post. But it’s there. I am sure enough of her friends will pass it around that it won’t be long before you see it on FB.
They have been adding horses to the website. Almost 200 on there, but it doesn’t specify which are actually on-site.
I know who is onsite.
You would think after repeated requests for the transparency they claim to have, that they would be making some effort to announce at least some euths. It’s a given with that quantity of horses that SOME will need to be euthanized… but they want to make it seem like it isn’t nearly the number that it is… In my opinion, it looks a lot worse when people keep asking about horses and get a response of “oh yeah, we shot her last week”. But I guess they can just delete those questions/ban the askers and avoid that problem.
She said once that they don’t announce very euth because people don’t like sad news. Personally, I think it’s out of sight, out of mind and she doesn’t really want people to know how many they do kill. I would also like to see a vet report saying that the euths were needed because I know for a fact she’s butted heads with the vets in the past about euthing horses they didn’t approve.
Is there a Governing Entity for Horse Rescues? At a Federal level. Humane Society, ASPCA?
Sadly, no. The HSUS and the ASPCA have their own affiliated rescues and they can be called in to investigate with the assistance of local law enforcement, but that’s about it. Anyone can start start a rescue and apply for a 501(c)(3) as long as they meet their state’s requirements and can afford it.
The ASPCA has withdrawn support from HiCaliber though.
I meant that the Humane Society/ASPCA can be called to investigate animal cruelty reports with police support, and often work with local rescues (for example, the rescue that I used to work for would get called in by the local ASPCA to take on livestock since they didn’t have the facilities for it). I didn’t mean to imply that they would work/are working with HCHR.
And I didn’t know they had withdrawn their support. Do you know when/why that happened?
I think it happened around the time they got booted from the Homes for Horses Coalition which had to do with them eating testicles among other things. Michelle’s spin that they were too big for them isn’t accurate. They were punted but allowed to resign to save face.
Poor saban, but fice is awesome, he caught quick so that’s great
Watching that right now too. It does not look good. Why don’t have have a port in so it can drain? That probably needs to be flushed several times a day, but I doubt they have the people on hand to do it.
If they were going to have one spend a couple days in the hospital, it looks like it should have been him! That is a huge amount of weight loss… that is neglect…
Does it look like strangles swelling? I saw bastardized stragles mentioned in previous posts so I was wondering if it looked like strangles or something else.
It could be. I’m not sure how a horse could puncture in that spot but stranger things have happpened. We’ll never get a straight story out of her anyhow.
Strangles is usually below the jaw. Who knows how this started, but it certainly looks like they should be treating it more aggressively if the horse can’t eat.
If he had basterdized strangles he would be half dead. Not eating, high fever.
It’s not strangles. Looks like an infected wound.
I just don’t understand why he can’t swallow. If that abscess is putting pressure on his facial nerves/muscles/tendons/whatever then it needs to be opened and draining constantly. If it’s not that then I would guess he has a fractured jaw or skull. Whatever it is it is very, very bad. He needs to be on supportive fluids and under intense medical care, not sitting in a stall with the 30% vet praising Fice. I was thinking strangles in the earlier posts before I saw his injury. Doesn’t really matter at this point, someone needs to fix him before he starves to death.
He can swallow, but it is too painful for him to masticate his food, so he’s just spitting it out.
Poor guy.
If I don’t see an invoice I’m not believing he’s been seen by a real vet.
Pretty much so. If he can’t afford to fix his truck why fix the horse first?
Well if he can’t chew, a real rescue would make his food into soup, stand there and watch him slurp it, and then clean the damn bowl and feed him again in 3 or 4 hours max. This is infuriating. They are torturing that horse. What a bunch of sick wastes of breath.
That Saban video makes me furious
Makes me furious too. He could have a broken jaw. I had a horse get his head stuck between a fence and a gate. He had swelling exactly in that spot. Had a crooked jaw fo r the rest of his life. He lived mashes for months while it healed. That Andrew Fice is a monster. I just watched the YouTube videos of him. Omg…….!
This should be enough to shut them down. Too bad nobody else but us seems to even see it!
Off topic but in any old videos or posts did the dynamic duo ever endorse anyone in the Presidential race?
No, sadly not. I see where you’re going with that, but I can’t find anything.
I couldn’t even watch it..
I wish he would go to slreh but he’s not a Michelle or ranch favorite so why care about him?
That Saban update… OMG he looks horrible! From the front, all you see is his poor hips sticking out. That is not okay and didn’t happen overnight since he noticed him not being able to chew early on. At least Michelle goes on and on in the video about what a nice guy Fice is. Wow…
horrifying too is she says he’ll go back to Fice for “training” once Saban’s feeling better?! That bloody lump on his face, how can they not have a vet treating that + figure out why he’s not eating? He is suffering.
That horse needs to be seen by the vet asap. What’s wrong with these morons?
Having just watched one of his videos I’m seriously confused, Michelle doesn’t like bits cuz they are harsh, but over and under a horse is ok?
Michelle has no skill herself so she would think that training through force was appropriate.
Michelle is a fucking idiot. She does not know what she’s doing. She rides like she’s on a horse out in front of a grocery store that requires a quarter to “lope”. She needs to take a lesson or 50. She looks like a douche on every horse. Someday, if there is truly a god, a horse, without a bit, will dump her stupid ass and she will get hurt for real. Not like this last time. Maybe that was god’s practice run.
Wanted to add, all her BS about sending him back to Fice is just that, >BS. She’s going to shoot that horse in the face, mark my words.
I’d sure like to know how he ended up with that large of an abscess in that spot.
Oh but remember how quick Fice was to specify that the wound was “self-inflicted”? Hmm.
They are idiots and the horse needs to go to hospital. How on earth are they expecting a wound on the TOP of a horse’s head to drain on its own, especially without a shunt or being regularly opened and lavaged??
Michelle is afraid of that horse because he lunged at her before. She won’t do much to help him.
Ok I am all for him getting the fuck out of their, however she said in the video that he will be going back to fice, someone just asked in comments if he was available to adopt, they were directed to the adoption page? So how will that work? Fice gets another one????
If anyone can get him out I can get him a soft landing with ppl that will take care of him.
Well, Fice bought him for only $1 so if they could possibly squeeze 1k or so by adopting him, they have plenty of other horses standing around they could give Fice. He’s already got a bunch of theirs at his place now. I just want to know where Rojas is. Fice advertises him for sale but he’s never show in his pens, he’s not at HiCaliber, so WTF is this horse?
The Saban video is horrifying. Wonder how much actual vet care he has or will receive? He also looks just miserable.
none, poor horse.
Rescued a horse years ago very similar wound..hammer to the head..that’s not strangles if his jaw is bad..he has been hit repeatedly in the head with a heavy object
He’s got nothing but weeds out there it could be chewing disease, caused by Russian Knapweed, and yellow yellow-star-thistle. Here is a link, to a video of foals not being able to eat because of it, and other videos of older horses with the same thing. https://www.facebook.com/savetheahtanumhorses/videos/519685021500242/
And here is a link to the weed info: http://www.localriding.com/yellow-star-thistle.html
MOP, just got done at vet, paperwork was not done correctly however they are safe to travel
MOP has earned my respect back in spades during this ordeal. Invoices posted, vet visits, layovers every 8 hours. HiCaliber can EAD for all the abuse they dole out on any horse that’s unlucky enough to land in their money grubbing, freshly manicured hands. I’m getting more pissed off at those incompetent bitches for every hour that ticks by!
Stay tuned…
Ive been watching MOP, before this never heard of them, but I give them props for doing what they are
Shed, you couldn’t lure me away from this blog with gobs of chocolate, a cute donkey or money! Well money might do it. Staying tuned until you write your very last blog!
I agree, she really seems genuine and i hope she stays that way
For the love of horses please tell me there are still moles/mole over at HiKill. I am very happy to see so many of us coming over from the dark side, and I sincerely hope that change is on the horizon, I just hope there is still someone on the inside.
Just the comments on this one blog post alone are staggering, sickening and completely mortifying. And yet, even with SO many horses in desperate need on their property those bitches will be back at auction tomorrow. If Saban is supposedly under vet care I would love to see those receipts. Those hips!! That poor horse should be in the hospital. He is wasting away. It’s pathetic. I am beyond angry. My heart hurts. I hope this madness ends soon.
What “horse rescue” aborts foals? Whether 3 yo or 18 months….they need to call themselves something other than a rescue. Horse scamlot?
Did anyone else see Baker’s post this morning about their transport falling through for the minis? It was deleted a little while after. I thought Jacob was hauling for them?….I could be wrong. I hope more people that bought the pairs come forward about wrong health paperwork and double paying for health certs. MOP just posted about having to get theirs fixed.
yes, someone posted Bakers post on MOP. It said their transporter had to back out last minute b/c he had gotten into an accident & they were desperate to find new hauler. Jacob’s DOT# is invalid, so hopefully he’s not trying to haul those minis across the country.
Other people were pointing out that Jacob’s DOT# is expired so maybe he decide to not to do it something. Cheech has a new taierl that is larger. Maybe she’ll do it.
Jacob Thompson DOT:
http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/8-kill-pen-horses-dead-texas-trailer-accident/
Currently out of service:
https://ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Carrier/1653361/Overview.aspx
Jen Baker is on a very public downward spiral brought on by working for a disgusting feedlot on the other side of the country. She have Romney (and a weak backbone and ethical stance) to thank for that. She made a woefully bad decision and sadly, she’ll have to pay her dues for it.
I kinda lost sympathy for her when she told everybody to kiss her ass.
She said that?!! On her page…or? We know she’s not the best when it comes to spelling and grammar, but we can decipher most of what she has to say. She didn’t mean ‘ass’ as in donkey?! Lol! Kinda surprised, but then again she’s a HiCal fangirl and that level of depravity rubs off of you hang around too long.
I think she deleted the post, but her original one about the 16 out of Louisiana did say that everybody could kiss her ass.
Agreed
Michelle was supposedly back in the hospital, and unable to do updates. When? She was out drinking at the fundraiser Saturday, then visiitng Margaret today.
Either Friday or Sunday would be my guess.
I saw them needing transport for the minis; did all the mares/ foals get transported
It’s Tuesday. My wish for today: No donations = no new victims, hope for empty trailers going home.
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that pic they have w/ this post is horrible. At least 7-8 starved horses lined up waiting their “turn” to eat hay?! HC doesn’t even know to spread hay/eating areas around so everyone gets to eat? No shocker at all that HC thinks this pic is great & caption-worthy.
How do they not see? The dominant horses are getting to eat. The “cute line” is hungry horses who don’t dare push forward for food. Good grief.
Really great picture of staving horses, they probably haven’t gained a pound since they got them. Pictures don’t always show how thin the horses are. I counted 10 horses in the picture with only TWO eating. Great job HiCaliber, you don’t make horses that need to gain weight compete for food. Idiots!
It’s Victim Tuesday. They probably don’t have funds for even one and there are going to be many that need them. Hope Romney bought an extra mascara for the sad photos of her cradling the next victims head with black lines running down her face.
It’s going to be a hot one today, I’m sure there will be plenty of mascara everywhere. She will also probably feel like passing out…
Ugh, I can just imagine the heavy breathing and gasping already.
And all the village idiots lined up saying how wonderful the horses look, and how great HiKill is, and isn’t it cute how they are all in line waiting their turn? Vomit. How can they not see the horrible wrong in that picture?
I also counted 10. My caption, “If it looks like a feedlot, and smells like a feedlot, it is probably a feedlot.”
Well you know they will start out with 0 dollars as they do every week even though shot Posh which means her 650.00 responsible rescue should be put forward to this week, Yeah right… I wish I had the time to count all the villagers donations on the comments. It would surely be interesting!
I already did my finger exercises for typing today as I’m sure we will be subjected to much asshatery!
My wrists hurt already
Finally saw a post regarding those 3 pasos from awhile back (not from HC, they never answered). One went (in bad shape) to Prancing Pony, and she states the other two were euthanized. She also has Lazarus, who didn’t used to be skinny, but left HC that way… glad he’s out of there at least.
Here we go….”the truck is coming” Tuesday has started. I’m wondering what truck is that exactly? HiCal says that David Misner has stopped sending horses to slaughter since they’re in business together now. So whose truck is coming? Are there other KBs working the Ontario auction on Tuesdays that we’ve never heard of? Now we know that Misner and his son are at Mike’s auction buying up horses including their own which they love to upbid, so are they or aren’t they sending ‘the truck’ to slaughter? Asking you Michelle and Romney. Which is it? Most of us know that it’s illegal to send horses from California to Mexico for slaughter but that never stopped a sleazy killbuyer before so please explain how Misner no longer sends horses down south since taking up with HiCal. Why send the village into a panic about “the truck”? Oh riiiight, that’s your bread an butter catchphrase!
Oh and look, a few donkeys…but of course they don’t even have funds for one yet. Who would have thought? Dig deep into those pockets villagers.
And now a mini has cancer and every single animal there is “terrified.”
My favorite bit was how they were going to bring the broken spirits back to the ranch. Presumably to crush them once and for all.
After everybody lost their shit about Margaret, donkeys are all the rage now.
@Trainwreck the horses heard HiCaliber was coming.
“At quick glance it appears to be cancer”… umm it looks to me like when I had a mini who wanted to play with his out too often and his buddy bit it… but cancer is more dramatic for donors than an accidental injury. Weird they’d see so much penis cancer, since, ya know, Sweet William had it too!
Is Dr. Romney Faye diagnosing things again?
Has anyone at HC ever actually seen a terrified horse? Terrified (or even mildly anxious) equines are usually sweaty, especially in this heat, and don’t generally stand still long enough to get a bunch of photos. Both the pony stud and the bay mare look calm but alert, and appear to be in good condition. Other than the overgrown hooves on the pony, they have good weight, with nice coats, and well groomed manes. I wonder how much they will up-bid private buyers…
The penis could also be from flies. But cancer brings in more money.
It could also be one he injured by being studdy. I’ve seen it happen.
Oh yeah, Romney and penis cancer is like Michelle and melanomas. Diagnosis of the month.
it appears Dr.Romney Faye Baker has diagnosed an ambient injury on the mini, surely he’ll need “deeper x-rays” on this
LMAO! But what are the exigent circumstances?
Deeper x-rays on his penis? lol
Agree with the ambient injury to the penis. I think his prognosis pretty fluid though, It is what it is.
LOL!!!!
@ laura, i’m dying here! LOL
They’ve abandoned any semblance of being what they once were. “The truck” needs to come, alright. The IRS truck.
yes!!
someone asked why Posh’s $650 irresponsible rescue fee can’t be used for auction funds, since they euth’d her already. HC says the $650 gets used on “intake, xrays, pain meds, euth, removal & hauling”. Sure. More like .80 cents for Brokeback Manson to shoot them in the face.
So realistically, if she was that bad you shouldn’t need more than $150 (being generous) worth of X-rays. They’re getting bottles of banamine so I’m sure she didn’t use more than $10 worth. “Euth” – 5 cents? Removal – they claimed like $175 before but probably got a bulk discount by throwing a few on the same truck. So even if they paid hauling back to the ranch from auction (which, they shouldn’t be…), it’s what – 80 or 90 miles? Say they were feeling generous in paying themselves and allocated $100 for hauling. You’ve STILL only spent MAYBE $450 if you include feed (assuming she even got fed).
yup, it’s crazy. Imagine how many HC horses are brought to landfill, the workers have got to notice the high volume dumped by HC weekly & wonder what’s going on.
Saw that too. That girl’s comments have been getting deleted left and right.
Interesting to see the stories villagers are making up about the grey crypt in the charro saddle. Automatically assuming he is a dancing horse, even though there don’t appear to be any spur rubs or scaring on the flanks, or whip marks on the hindquarters or lower on the cannon bone where one might traditionally cue. Others are assuming he was a tripping horse despite having no apparent wounds on the forelegs. Looks more like the horse was cast or tossed around in a trailer. Again, the more likely scenario wont bring in donations.
Looks like a recent wreck to me too. Otherwise he’s in decent body condition. I don’t think a tripping horse would have a saddle on it.
Could someone please tell me what in the hell a dancing horse is? And why is everyone so horrified when they thing a horse is or was one? @Hippocrates I agree with you, looks like a trailer injury.
The grey is in good weight and in one of the pics you can see a hoof which not appear to be overgrown. He doesn’t look neglected but the Village is all up in arms over him while creating wild backstories.
He’s in better shape than most of what they have back at the ranch
It is interesting how things are made up like that. The cuts look like accidents, not abuse. So he has a sore on his nose, maybe they incorrectly used a bosal a couple times or something (HC should appreciate the bitless effort), but they have a bit on the horse now and nothing currently hurting him. It’s probably just somebody’s trail horse.
Maybe they think he should have a big hole rubbed in his face like Moxie.
@train wreck, it’s a heavily Hispanic area (especially that auction), and a lot of those guys like to teach the horses to “dance”. A lot of the time their methods include leaving a horse with its head tied down tight while they whip its legs.
It is vaguely like piaffe and passage, though not always at the trot, and often with a lot of side to side jigging that would be frowned on in dressage. Despite the typical subtle racism among villagers, it is not just a Mexican thing. Admittedly the training techniques I’ve seen used can be very harsh, and especially to start with will often involve heavy spurring at the flanks, and whipping off the hindquarters combined with restraining forward movement. I’m not a fan, and get annoyed any of my non-horsey friends and family try to share videos with me because they know I ride dressage. To the best of my knowledge one would not typically cue for dancing off the hocks, especially the back, and you would need to be using a pretty sharp instrument to cause the skin to scrape off like that. It is possible that the horse slipped and fell in the cross ties during training. But that can happen to any horse that is tied. It also seems just as likely those wounds are the result of casting or a trailer injury.
Combined with the scrapes on his face, I’d be guessing it has nothing to do with dancing.
Thanks guys, I assumed a dancing horse was along those lines. I feel bad for the OTTB there, he is actually in rough shape. That chestnut stud looks TB to me, not WB.
she has some good comments 😉
not all her comments are getting deleted….
Stacey Johnson Maybe those people really did care about the horses, though? And were passionate about it?
I personally don’t see why Taj or Posh was put down.
With Taj, he was there for over a year from what I have read. They said in the minion video that the vets had been out and couldn’t diagnose him. IMO, someone is either not looking or not competent. (both of those should be a red flag) Ring bone and navicular are extremely easy to see via a standard mobile x ray – and neither are an instance death sentence, nor is both together. Previcox, corrective shoeing and turn out could be tried instead of confining him in a barn stall. yes, the invoice was posted, but what wasn’t posted were the vet notes or diagnosis. so did he have both? this is a valid question that people shouldn’t be afraid to ask.
With Posh, I saw no limping or pain in her freedom walk or her arrival at the ranch. Yes, I saw the x ray showing rotation, but, again, not a death sentence. She seemed to be moving quite comfortably to me. Offer her as a pasture puff? why was she not?
And don’e even get me started on Saban!! Does NO ONE see how skinny that horse is? Hip bones potruding!? He is STARVING!!!!
What happened to the horses first motto?
And now I will probably be banned too. But I am ok with that. I feel every rescue should be able to ask questions without fear of being banned or bullied. After all, it is only the animals that suffer.
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Stacey Johnson He should be hospitalized. He is starving. Poor thing.
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Olivia Heunis I have to say I kinda agree 😕 My horse with a similar issue had to hospitalized for almost a week and his was less advanced than this.
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Stacey Johnson Those hip bones!!! His sweet eyes, he is killing me
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Olivia Heunis I do appreciate the update and I’m sure they are doing all they can for him there but seems like he would really benefit from round-the-clock, professional care.
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Stacey Johnson Agree. 24 hour monitoring by vets is needed
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Taj hasn’t been there a year though. I think they bought him when Michelle was going to auction while Romney was on her leave. Just a couple of months if that. He wasn’t that lame at auction but dont’ forget that michelle hits everything with a lot of banamine as soon as htey own it.
@Horses First-Always
Taj hasn’t been there for a year. He was “rescued” in May
Looks like the comment was corrected
Re: dancing horses. Let’s not paint all Mexican horse people with the same brush, please. We sold to a few who damn near worshipped our horses. They had no interest in whipping them or taking training short cuts. The youngsters were turned out to pasture until they fully matured because the new owners valued both horses having a childhood in which to mentally mature, and not breaking them down physically by starting them under saddle as youngsters. We vetted them and followed up on the horses they purchased. Not everyone in every discipline or of every ethnicity practices horsemanship the same. Abuse absolutely happens. It happens in *every* discipline. None of our chosen fields are immune to bad owners.
I think HiCaliber are the ones who tend to give the image that all the Mexicans are just beating their horses and teaching them to dance. I know plenty (in the same general area as that sale) with high-dollar imported horses who take amazing care of them. However, those aren’t generally what end up at the Ontario Auction. I don’t mean to stereotype, but it’s a low-end shithole and it’s no coincidence you always hear their announcements in Spanish in the background.
The Taj thing is still really bothering me.
If his navicular and ringbone were so subtle that they couldn’t be seen on a standard x ray (wasn’t aware it ever required a different kind of xray), then how could they also have been bad enough to euthanize him? It can’t be both.
He wasn’t bringing in the donations so he had to go.
I would like to know if Romney Faye palpated the grey horse to confirm it was a cryptorchid? I can’t believe they are back to using that one again… and they seem to be fixated on cancer of the penis. Maloree is no help, she is just Romney’s barnacle.
He’s gray, are we sure he isn’t full of melanomas?
I’m sure the 30% vet will be giving him a rectal as soon as he steps off the trailer.
Maloree is dumb as a stump
From Maloree on page:
This poor guy.
His hocks are a mess.
He has one ball.
He is very sweet.
Save him…please! I can’t leave him behind!!
That sow is there pimping out her training services to anybody that will buy a horse. Asswipe.
I’m just now getting to watch the “Freedom Walk”. I can’t help but laugh at how PETRIFIED Romney Faye is walking that little grey horse. Her voice was almost breaking and she was yelling for Tom. I think it’s hysterical how she tries to hide it.
She’s such a loser
That’s cause only one testicle showing means a demand for more money!
The comments about horses standing at auction… “he looks defeated”. No – he looks like it’s about to be over 100 degrees today. Go check out my horses, they probably have the same expression!
They just posted that they only have funds for 2. Bullshit!
I added up the amounts people said they donated…not counting the ones that said “donate. shared” and came up with about 3k so far
They wanted extra money for the gray because he’s a crypt.
So 3k not counting the undisclosed donation amounts? I always go through a gamut of feelings, shock, disbelief, horror, you name it, every single week.
It’s all those “small streams” making a mighty river of lies
My horse fell asleep getting his feet done last week. He probably looked defeated too, but the truth is he is just lazy. Although he was feeling rather hard done by that I ran out of cookies for him.
Lol had a horse just like that!
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From racetrack to slaughter auction. HELP!!
JC registered “Gordy’s Dream”, a 2006 model, is standing at the meat auction. He is very underweight, shows pinfire marks on one front leg and splints on the other. His hooves have also been trimmed way too short and will need some corrective measures to help make him comfortable.
This is how we reward our racers. 💔
Please help us save him!
Right behind him is a towering Warmblood-ish stallion. Two balls. He is super agitated and not doing well at auction. He towers over Maloree who stands at 6’2″. We are estimating him to be about 17.2. We don’t currently have the funds to save him but would be happy to bid on behalf of a private buyer. Interested? Message us ASAP at HiCaliber Private Buyers and PP your max bid.
We are definitely hoping to save Gordy. He’s raced, hungry and injured.”
Oh great! Romney and her “pinfire marks”….
and splints?
Poor Gordy. If (when) HiKill buys him today, he will still be raced, hungry and injured. And none of that will change. The only change will be his location.
He’ll probably be dead by Friday if they get him. No room left at the inn.
quick, HC must alert the OTTB “tattoo-id-team”
I wonder if they get their own special HiCal shirts.
Her dramatic claim about racing is BS. The horse made ONE start back in 2012 so whatever brought him to that auction probably wasn’t the racetrack.
Not sure why ever tall horse is a `warmblood’, but Tara does that too.
warmbloods fascinate Tara since she’s a coldblood
Good point
It amazes me how many clear, unblurred pics we get of these terrified, super agitated horses. Anyone else feel like their technology isn’t up to snuff if we can’t get perfect still pics of our running horses? Doesn’t look like a lot of spinning or lunging going on….
I’m curious how they treated all the horses on property with short hooves from standing in nasty mud due to the wet winter. How were they made comfortable?
What is it going to take to stop this scam?
We’ll keep plugging away. I’ve got more stuff to bring out soon.
Going by amounts in comments they have around 600.00 so far. God I hope they leave there with an empty trailer.
My favorite was a couple of weeks ago. “He’s colicing! Look at him biting at his belly.” No actually, he looked like he was just going after flys on his chest.
If they wanted to help those horses they’d walk around with a bottle of flyspray or citronella rather than a bag of drugs like they do.
Yep. And put some shelters up at home as well.
Looks like it is currently 97 degrees in Valley Center right now. 600.00 could help fund mist / drip lines, shade tarps ect. for horses stuck out in the sun to roast. But than. 600.00 could do a lot for horses THEY CURRENTLY HAVE!
Where I’m at its about 101° in the shade. Your right, look where the money could go other than in their pockets.
PFK over in EGYPT is doing better for their horses.
I can’t even imagine seeing the things they see there. They may not be vets themselves, but have gotten some incredible results with their doctoring… I feel like they could teach all of us something. I’m always amazed when I look at their pictures. (and sad for the horses out there)
I have mad respect for what they do and deal with over there. Such a fine line they have to walk.
And how tactfully they still reply to people on Facebook cursing the owners or asking why they don’t just euthanize everything, or take them to a vet! I couldn’t do it!
Prince Fluffy Kareem does a wonderful job. I can’t imagine what they see in Egypt. The pictures they post are horrifying.
I’m so pleased to see I’m not alone in my PFK love! ❤ Those people are straight up heroes, but they’re humble as the day is long.
Why don’t their horses have shelter from the sun? Seriously? They don’t fundraiser for shelters? Do they have trees? Isn’t that a humane society call?
MOST of the time, it really isn’t abusive to not have shelter in Southern California (all mine have it, but of course are unappreciative). I understand making a temporary pen for a couple days or something like that. BUT to continue to add more and more horses when you have several without shelter, and summer is HERE? Maybe there should have been a fundraiser for shelters instead of adding more horses??
It annoys me when our horses are in a completely temporary situation and a couple only have giant, well covered trees as shelter. I know they’re perfectly fine, you can’t even see the horses for the branches if they go looking for shade, but my heart is unhappy until they can get back in actual run-in situations. Temp situations suck.
Several shelter options for my horses and you will usually find them standing directly outside the shelter at any given time. However on a really hot day they always seek shade.
I make sure mine always have the option, but of 6 horses I had in turnouts yesterday (plenty of shade where they could all be in it), ALL were standing in the 108 degree sun. Standing in the rain is actually what bothers me more, especially if you’re not going to clean your pens so the horses end up knee-deep in muddy shit. And you know it’s not like anyone is going around cleaning feet out.
The other thing that worries me about rain is a lot of their horses have lost their top lines so the rain will just pool in there and then they get rain rot because I don’t think they see an actual brush all that often
I posted this question…it will get deleted…but I was a polite as i could be in phrasing. I wanted to say something far more caustic.
“At what point are you full/maxed out and unable to house/care for additional horses? Seems so many have been bought/rescued lately that all had medical and dietary/care needs. When do you need to take a step back and focus on helping those you have already?”
They pretend that the high number of horses at the ranch is just a fluke. Yet they have been over 100 for over a year. If I had a nickle for every lie I heard…
I went and looked at the Google Maps satellite shot. LOTS of horses, lots of paddocks with no shelter. And the way I found the address to look? I checked out Taj’s vet bill. The only place I found their physical address. Everything else was a PO box.. Of course, the vet bill has now gone POOF!
They are a mobile vet, I believe.
11223 Calle Oro Verde, Valley Center, 92682.
A few posts back has all their info. They only have 11.64 aces and are only zoned for 10 horses per USABLE acre. So at the MAX 10 acres = 100 horses though I am sure the county would say way less. Plus they have to have an administrative permit to have that many horses which they DO NOT nor have they ever.
I was also horrified at the lack of shelter. Even a tarp on poles would be preferable to nothing. There is no shade in many of those paddocks.
So Cal also got more rain than usual this year, and those horses were standing in rain/mud/shit all winter.
They have been over 100+ since March 2015. I don’t think their numbers have dropped below 120 since the Fallen Herd. I am disgusted with how these horses that they already rescued, I mean horded are being treated!
And I also live in Valley Center and it was 103° here today! Hopefully their water trough are not bone dry like they tend to be.
Well I got a reply:
HiCaliber Horse Rescue We have TONS of amazing fosters! Our adoptions team is rocking it by adopting an average of a horse a day. We also have several ways we bring in income to maintain the upkeep of the horses in our program to include our store, coffee club, events etc 💖-megan
Yeah…now I want to say…Or I guess you can just shoot them in the face like so many others.
Say “great, does that extra income mean you’re hiring someone to feed reliably? Or make sure everyone is checked for injuries/doctored daily? or…”
I just commented that Saban needs hospitalization/critical care. I’m disgusted with their cries of “There is still time to save lives!” Yeah…by making sure they don’t go to HiCal to be neglected and shot in the face. I do NOT believe they average 1 adoption per day…or have as many fosters as they claim. Not buying it.
I’m glad to see they are struggling to get the funds they want today.
And then a statistic that is often left out is returns. They count everything that leaves as an adoption, but I know that SEVERAL have been returned after being misrepresented. How many of those were quietly shot?
Like the grand total of 12 tickets the sold to their big Brews and Blues fund raiser on Saturday? At least two of which were for Robyn and Michelle so HiCaliber probably paid for them.
Tickets were bought by someone else and given to Michelle and Robyn.
More likely 2 tickets were comped (sp) to HiCal as the face behind the rescue.
Tons of amazing fosters. So they are counting them by weight now? I would like to know the actual number of fosters they have. And how many horses have been adopted but returned?
Right? I hear they don’t always treat their fosters very nicely. I’ve also heard they’ve turned adopters away because they didn’t look like the knew what they were doing when they came to pick up a horse.
Nice vetting of the adopters and way to treat people trying to make a difference.
They didn’t know what they were doing? How would HiCaliber even know??
Less and less fosters all the time as they take emotional and financial advantage of them.
With 365 days in the year and adopting out 1 per day even if you count in the roughly 20-25 horses added (on an average) per month the place would be nearly empty.
Wouldn’t it be nice to think that the way HiKill run their rescue has in turn made another rescue really take a gook look at themselves and determined to do things better. The below makes me hopeful!:
“Mea Ola’s Place … We don’t just rescue here, we save lives. Read some stories on our website please. Thank you so much for being concerned. However, if it isn’t obvious already….we will do this right.😀
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Lyn Chambers This…. “We don’t just rescue here, we save lives.” YES!! Big difference to some other ‘rescues’ I’ve seen lately! Thank you for not ‘just’ rescuing. What happens AFTER the rescue is SO important. I feel it’s the all about the thrill of the chase for some rescues and their followers. What happens afterwards doesn’t seem to matter that much.
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Mea Ola’s Place That is going to be a lot of the discussion. There are only so many forever homes out there. We can’t keep bringing them in, one by one, and not having a plan for each life. We can only have so many that can live on the property. We can only have so many that can be properly cared for by a certain number of people. There are only so many that the funds are there for. We find a use for even lame horses. Now, I’m not talking about keeping them alive when they are suffering with no hope. However, Mea Ola herself is the perfect example. She has been lame since day one. We have done many things to keep her going. We have MANY seniors that will never get adopted. We use them in camps, birthday parties, with foster kids and Therapy for sexual abuse survivors. They don’t have to be rideable to be “useful”. But, that doesn’t excite donors. We can’t save everything. So, we focus on what we can save and then commit to their life. Period. I hate the mentality of a “horse taking up a spot for a more adoptable horse”. The fact is, there will NEVER be enough stall space to save every life, so why is Mea Ola’s life not worth saving AFTER RESCUE (as an example). It’s just my opinion. But I am the founder and that is the opinion I started with and it won’t change. I am a vet tech by trade, have been for almost 30 years. I was born to save lives, not just rescue them.
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Lyn Chambers I completely agree with you and I am really happy to see that it looks like recent events will actually make you into an even better rescue at the end of the day! Thank you!!”
Good words. Don’t know anything about them but if they practice what they preach – more power to them!
Right now they “have funds for two” Which lucky two will it be today?? Do they have the full funding for the crypto?? Silly me. They will fund raise for his surgery AFTER they get him. That would be money in their pocket AFTER the additional funding that they beg for today for THE SAME surgery. Lets all sit back and watch the magic happen.
Has Romney Faye called anything sexy yet?
Not that I have seen yet, but they did name the horse in the best condition at the auction and are begging super hard to save her.
Typical
I wonder where Cheech is or if they are just having her keep a low profile.
Cheech is probably on the “High”way to LA.
Ha ha!!!
Yep…they like pretty buckskins.
ROTLMAO!! 17.2 ish warm blood!!
Yup she had to save a made..Laurie needed her
They got the crypt, warmblood and “long arab” Damn
Heartbreaking. More horses whose story will be burried rather than told.
Do you know who got the OTTB? I’m relieved they didn’t get him
They got the ottb
Nooooooooo
The did get him
Why not the penis horse?
Probably because someone pointed out it wasn’t likely cancer, and so they might actually have to spend money to treat the poor little guy rather than shoot him.
he was sure a cute little thing.
Because he went for too much and the people couldn’t tell he had cancer on his pen is Lol
They were out bid
And the paint pony went to a Private Buyer, for a lot of money because “they couldn’t see he had penis cancer”. Maybe they just didn’t have your great diagnostic skills, Romney.
Did you see Romney freak out because that one horse had those muscles on his forehead like some do? She thought he had something wrong with him! I don’t think the paint pony had cancer. We had a stud that broke his penis trying to climb a wall in the barn. It healed up but it looked a lot like nothing on earth for awhile.
I had a stud mini who one day had blood all down his legs and a big split at the end of his very swollen penis. While I didn’t actually SEE what happened, he lived with another mini (gelding) who I’m guessing may have bit him. Stuff happens (mini stud is now a gelding, too!)
I didn’t find anymore comments about the wb. Thought HC said they did. Hope they didn’t get him.
WB no saled.
He went to a private buyer. Then RFB said he was going to HC to be gelded tomorrow. She was looking for someone to come and transport him. Oh and, she did call him sexy several times.
Yuck. Why do they think every tall horse is a warmblood?
Of course they did! They’re all the rage now. Plus they were about 18 short for their “ottb20”
So sad that we cringe every time this ‘rescue’ gets another horse! I ALMOST posted this today but I am not quite ready to get banned. “Well I guess I must finally be ready to be banned. Here you go HiKill! Ready, set, BAN! My suggestion is that maybe it’s time for you all to stay home from auction and fund raise to help the horses you already have on site. i.e. Saban and Firetyme for starters who are obviously not doing well. Can we see some medical receipts for these two horses. No? Of course not? Transparency? Cha right! Quite frankly I am getting really tired of reading about a horse being shot because you didn’t raise enough funds to ‘save’ him or her or for vet bills. Being a good rescue is knowing where to draw the line. Not just to keep going to auction week after week just because donors love a good “the truck is coming” rescue day. What happens AFTER the big save is equally, if not more, important. SO many horses are never mentioned again and just disappear. It is very clear that you are part of the problem at this point. I am SO tired of every post being about Michelle and her personal life, or Romney and her tragic loss. Not good enough! Romney should take a break. Michelle needs to focus on the horses and not her myriad of excuses for this rescue not being transparent. SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! SHOW ME RECEIPTS!! SHOW ME VET BILLS!! People give you money all day long and never do you bother to show them where that money goes! I hope you get shut down very soon and those horses find a real rescue, not just a hoarder/trader. I hope other rescues take a lesson from seeing your despicable behavior and make the extra effort to do rescue right. Tick tock HiKill. Tick tock!”
Good Job!
Love it…where did you post it?
Love your comment. It’s perfect!
To be fair – posting it here it’s garunteed to be read by both HiCaliber board members and villagers. They’re here. Allllll around us. They sit there refreshing as often as we do.
“Anyone want to indulge my fancy?”
In other words…Does anyone want to buy me the pretty buckskin?
I’m gunna hurl
We all know damn well that Misner will sell her…she won’t be getting on the trailer. She’s a good one to mark up for him.
The Village Idiots bought her the Dun/ Bay mare…hard to tell with the lighting. 650 from Misner.
Do you think that maybe they ask Voldy to buy for them and just buy it back at the same price, then raise the extra $250.00 between what it went for and what they say they are buying it back from Voldy for? OR just buy it themselves to begin with and raise a little extra cash saying they have to pay more to Voldy to buy it back? Why in the hell else would they pay him an additional $250.00 in the course of 30 minutes, between auction and buyback?
Because they raise more money in that 30 minutes to save the pretty horse from the killer.
I think they split the mark up with Misner. I have had people tell me that Romney has acted as a go between to get a horse from Misner and they caught her tagging $100 on top of his price.
650? The guy that had her only wanted 400.
did HC completely forget about their 3-4 mare/foal pairs trapped at Thompson’s pigpen in LA? They haven’t posted squat about them. MOP is hauling the 2 pairs they committed to, Baker Equine posted their 16 minis are getting picked up this evening in LA…so what about HC’s pairs? Romney Faye telethon asked $10,800 to save them in the 11th hour, so where are they?!
Maybe that’s why Cheech wasn’t at auction. Perhaps she’s on her way to pick them up with her new trailer.
ahh, good point
They need to do something with the weather that’s coming in….
Can someone please explain the buy back from Voldy. Maybe it’s just a matter of Symantec, but that phrase drives me crazy. They are buying from Voldy, period. To “buy back” would mean you owned it previously, doesn’t it?
One would think…
Logic! Be ashamed of yourself, Bobthedog! Logic shall not be brought in to village affairs!
Dear Shocked, I’m so very sorry to try and bring logic to village affairs. 😂
When they say they “facilitated” the purchase of the pregnant mini donkey (and thus count it as one of their rescues), what does that mean? Or what do they say it means?
Probably means they took a cut, but yes they’ll likely count it as a save for them.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I am sure they made money off that donkey. I was thinking as I watch the girl come to pick her up. What makes the girl a good home for her? No questions asked just give us the money for her. Hope she does get a good home. Did anyone ask the girl if she knows what to do if she starts having the baby? Rescue my ass!!!
Sully, Firetyme and Saban look horrible.
Does anybody know if they are under a “real” vets care?
They need to be rescued from Hi Caliber.
Your guess is as good as mine. I’ve never seen an invoice or a vet speak about them.
Just out of curiosity- I may have missed it, but does HiCaliber have somewhere to quarantine the horses they are allegedly bringing in from out of state? My concern is that all the horses coming from the slaughter pipeline or off of feedlots, particularly in the south where there are scarier diseases born from the more humid climate, may spread anything they might be carrying to the horses already under HiCaliber’s ‘care’. The density of horses on premise at HiCaliber alarms me, particularly with more horses of dubious backgrounds going in and ‘sustainable.’ At the place I work, any new animals undergo a period of quarantine- typically 2-3 weeks, even if their background is traceable back to their births. Does anyone know if HiCaliber has a standard procedure regarding integration of new animals into their facilities?
‘sustainable’ should be replaced with ‘out’ sorry about that!
They put red tape on their pens. That’s their QT protocol. Oh and Michelle as an SAA machine that magically tells her if they are going to be sick or not. Other than that their QT is a joke. They don’t have enough room to get these horses far enough away from each other for airborne bugs. Nobody changes their clothes as they and the dogs wander all over, hose goes from one trough to another etc, etc
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