It’s That Time Again….Point and Laugh Friday!

Wow!  Here we are at the last Point and Laugh Friday for September already.  I had thought we’d run out of fodder long before now, but it turns out I was wrong.  The PSAs are rolling along with their lunacy and hanging it all out in public for us to see.  As usual, I’ve learned a few things this week and cleared up some identity problems I didn’t realize I was having.  I guess I’ll clear them up for y’all at the end too, because I’m a giver that way.  For now, I think we best be getting down to the business of Point and Laugh Friday….This week is brought to you by the letter `P’ for pillock (look it up).

As always we will kick things off with the Matron of Horse Murder, Slaughterhouse Sue.  As we covered earlier in the week, she is back from DC and busily searching the internet for obscure links to back up her mission.  Mostly, she has been searching YouTube, although she hasn’t found anything to offend us with lately.  We know this because Silly Suey has linked her YouTube account to her twitter, so every time her pudgy little fingers `like’ something, we get to see it on twitter.  So much awesome! (https://twitter.com/sue_wallis).  Strangely, she has yet to `like’ probably the best video on YouTube ever.  It’s one I shared with you earlier in the week, but I’m going to link it up again because it is so hilarious and I’m eagerly awaiting the next installment..(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LfyB_S78U).  If you haven’t seen it yet, do yourself a favor because it will make your day!  Anyhow, Suey didn’t do a bunch else this week because she is likely getting ready for her trip to Denver to tell everybody how horses are about to become extinct so we should slaughter more of them.  I have to think that having somebody like Slaughterhouse Sue speaking as an expert on the industry is about like having me be the keynote speaker at a plumber’s convention.  The only difference is I’m far easier on the eyes than Suey, but then again so is Dame Edna.

Moving on….it’s time to check in with the Dynamic Duo of Dumbasses….Douchebag Duquette and Holy Theresa Manzella.  D-bag has been pretty quiet this week.  Mama Suey is home so I’m sure he otherwise engaged and conveniently muzzled.  Earlier this week we learned that there is more than a little snag in his plans to open his super-sonic slaughter-house in his own backyard. (http://www.ktvz.com/news/Lawyer-Hermiston-horse-slaughter-plant-lacks-zoning/-/413192/16736582/-/kgh5bsz/-/index.html) Either D-bag isn’t through sounding out the entire article or Suey has told him to keep his trap shut because their only comment on the matter was from Suey and, of course, she denied the accuracy of this article.  Holy Theresa has mostly been busy begging people to hire her to do riding clinics and throwing hissy fits on debate pages.  Strangely, a page that belongs to a teenage girl was the subject of her wrath when she banned slaughter discussion and Holy Theresa proceeded to throw her toys out of the pram and run off and start her own debate page whilst bad-mouthing the young girl.  This would be the same Holy Theresa that pitched a fit when I dared to comment on the conformation of a kid’s horse.  Whatever works for ya, Your Holiness!

Next up on the agenda is a quick check in with our #1 Fan, Mendy Tobiano.  It’s been a fairly quiet week for the hypocritical horse of many colors and personalities.  Ostensibly, the chief personality is off attending to yet another personal crisis of her own creation and we have a `other writers’ stepping up although they all write the same and continue to mine this blog for their posting ideas.  Despite her claims of being a professional and knowing everything there ever is or will be to know about horses, she couldn’t wrap her mind around the pictures of `Buddy’ the rescue horse we check in with each week.  Because he was malnourished, sun-bleached, and wormy upon his surrender to Safe Haven, his coat was significantly lighter than it is now that he has gained 200lbs and returned to good health.  She is stomping her hooves and claiming that the update pictures are not of the same horse and yet another huge scam by us nasty anti people. If we were all on the up and up, we would post pictures of the exact same angle each time so they could know it was the same horse.  Well, considering I live nowhere near California and have my own horses to attend to, it’s not exactly feasible for me to just pop over and take a weekly conformation shot to suit the petulant pony.  I’ll update him at the end and you can all decide for yourselves.  Anyhow, other than those issues, NT has busied herself with extolling the virtues of eating horse meat and how super awesome horse dealers are.  Same old, same old.  At least we have driven the main loud mouth under her bridge and she remains in hiding under a different name on Facebook.  Mission accomplished. No need to thank me….

I’m happy to report that after a relatively quiet week from our usual suspects, that Buckaroo Harmon really brought the crazy this week and provided much hilarity.  In an effort to prove to me how little she cares that she got a feature on this blog, Buckaroo decided to begin a Facebook and message board smear campaign against me and is loudly proclaiming to one and all she knows who the writer of this blog and that there are three of us.  She has had tech teams on the case and they have nailed down locations and identities. For the record, none of the locations she has alluded to are relevant to me except maybe one and not all the time, but whatever tickles her tinky…. I also found out from Buckaroo that I’m a racist for guffawing at her `Native Spirituality’.  I’m not sure how that makes me racist since I happen to have STATUS myself and that doesn’t mean that I just lay claim to it like Buckaroo.  It means I carry a card that says so and I get to vote and stuff.  So, if I’m racist, does that mean I’m self-loathing?   Whatever.  Buckaroo also branded this a hate blog because I post quotes from the PSAs and stuff.  Does that mean they are self-loathing since I never alter their words?  I’m getting very confused!  I always find it hilarious that they claim to never pay attention over here yet they continue to be so outraged by their own words. I was also highly amused to watch Buckaroo Harmon repeatedly profess to know exactly who `all three writers’ of this blog is and then basically accuse somebody that is not me as being one of them….over and over.  It’s a kind of bizarre tactic considering the other party knows for sure she is bluffing.  Oh well, she was joined by another former Sunday PSA, Jes `the chin’ Sothern, who has allegedly contacted the FBI because I made fun of her not having much of a chin.  I’m a bitch…what can I say?  Apparently they are monitoring my blog and knocking on doors in California….OOPS!  Of course all this outrage is while they are calling me and others whores, which has provided great amusement to my other half who is now wondering if that makes him my pimp.  He’d like Buckaroo to know that I’m not earning my keep if that’s the case!

I bet y’all thought I’d forgotten about Daffy, didn’t you?  Well, as predicted, she was banned at the debate board within two days of me writing  that.  I’d like to lay claim to being psychic, but we have all come to know that Daffy never lasts long in mixed company.  Her crimes this time around was the usual schtick of being argumentative and lying.  Apparently, some people were sharing what their show credentials were or something and Daffy got busted for lying about being a World and Congress winner or something like that.  The thread went *poof* fairly quickly but it was highly amusing while it lasted. Naturally Daffy immediately began sending messages to unsuspecting parties expressing her outrage as soon as she discovered her banning.  Daffy is now on the Dorothy Robertson bandwagon and blaming the entire episode on corrupt officials and a big AR conspiracy.  I wish I could say that she was the only one doing that too, but she’s not.

I guess this brings us to Dorothy Robertson and the `Nevada 34′.  It seems the drama surrounding this issue is only getting started.  What we do know is that she had 34 horses on a 10acre property that had no water rights.  She admitted to having to haul in water until very recently and that there was a `pond’ the mares could drink out of that was considered to be insufficient by authorities.  We know that of the 34 horses seized, one was euthanized within days and two were returned to their actual owners as they had been leased by Dorothy.  This left 31 horses that ended up at Northeastern Nevada Equine Rescue.  I have seen a lot of witch hunting going on about this rescue and it kinda proves where people’s priorities are.  What everybody needs to remember is that the rescue did NOT seize those horses.  They applied to take them through the courts after the fact.  I’ve seen the PSAs whine about a conspiracy that the horses did not go to a rescue that was closer to Fallon.  Do we know for a fact that one applied to take the horses through the courts?  Time was of the essence considering they were due to be sold within days.  Another thing we know from pictures and news footage is that not all the horses were emaciated as it was originally reported.  However, the condition of their feet and skin was horrific and certainly enough to justify removal considering Dorothy had been warned back in July to get it together.  The kind of neglect that is being revealed does not happen over night.  Apparently, according to Dorothy, she has been charged with misdemeanor neglect and that is a huge conspiracy because she can’t get a public lawyer.  She also claims those are still her horses and is entitled to have them back.  I have seen no less than three websites attempting to collect money for her defense and I have to admit that I’m really disgusted with that.  Where were all these people when she asked for help months ago?  Why are these people so eager to have these horses returned to her when it was clear she was in way over her head and was actually a hoarder.  Dorothy talks about how the `paint performance world’ did not want these horses to go to slaughter, yet why didn’t a single one of those people step up if these animals were so valuable?  This includes Holy Theresa Manzella who runs a rescue AND breeds paint performance horses.  Yet, these PSAs are all screeching that NNER is a rescue that breeds and that means they are evil.  So far I have seen no evidence one way or another that NNER, as a rescue, is breeding horses.   Double standards?  Sadly, I’m sure we’ll have to talk about this situation again in the coming days.  For now, I wish NNER all the best with returning these horses to good health and finding homes for them when the time comes.  God knows they deserve a better life than they have known…

So, that wraps up yet another edition of Point and Laugh Fridays.  Once again, it feels like I have merely skimmed the surface of all the goings on with the PSAs.  As always I want to check in with `Buddy’ at Safe Haven.  Since our brilliant friend NT thinks I am using pictures of different horses, I’ll post a before and after that should show he’s the same horse unless you are profoundly stupid and blind.  I can’t help that his coat is darker now that he’s healthy and it’s later in the year…

Buddy (before)

Buddy (this week)

Finally, I thought I’d address the issue of the writers of this blog.  According to Buckaroo Harmon, she has absolute proof that there are three writers for this blog.  I am a we and `we’ are a team according to her.  She has allegedly done her homework and found us out.  She doesn’t want to reveal the information for reasons known only to herself and apparently the FBI.  So, before I get to the big reveal I will say this much…even WordPress does not have the writer’s identity.  This is all set up through proxy and Gmail accounts.  Nothing tracks back to anywhere,  which is how you can set up these blogs if you don’t buy your domain.  There is no tech team associated with the blog and the writer/writers behind it aren’t computer experts.  It’s just the way it shook out.  This blog was never intended to be about the writer as that would probably be boring.  What I will say is that Buckaroo Harmon is both right and wrong.  She is wrong about the `who’ behind the blog.  This isn’t even in question as her and her buddies have not managed to single out the correct person to block from reading their rantings on Facebook and various other message boards.  (seriously, do none of these people ever step away from the computer long enough to interact with their horses?).  What Buckaroo Harmon is correct about is the three writers.  There are three writers and they are better known as………

They really make this too easy…….Have a great weekend everybody!!!!!

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The Nevada 34 Update

If you recall, on Monday we talked about the 34 horses seized in Nevada that belonged to a PSA. I promised I would update as it became available and we seem to have a lot of ground to cover today.  First off, I want people to take a look at this YouTube video that was taken by Dorothy Robertson a year ago at her old farm.  These are her mares and I want to point out that while they all appear to be in good weight, the feet are starting to get a little long and there is at least one horse in the video with severe blistering sunburn and the hide falling off it about 25 seconds in.  Again, this video was from LAST year.  They are also eating out of the sand and there does not appear to be any shelter from the sun or elements for them.  At the 1:20 mark, you will note a horse in the background that appears to have some paralysis on the right side of her face.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHIydGccvyM)

Mare “19” at rescue

The rescue is beginning to post some pictures of the horses as they are triaged and the one thing I do notice is that there hasn’t been anything horrifically skinny shown yet.  However, the condition of their feet and other injuries are really bad.  The mare pictured above can be seen on the video as well and she has lost some condition.  Please note her back feet in the picture….there will be other closer views of them in a bit.  For now, let’s hear from Dorothy herself, as she has managed to get back online tonight.

 

“Finally on-line. The house I am in has no power hooked up due to damage to wiring done by previous people….using generator to run well for water. Had to buy new computer and just getting the hang of it.”

– Did you catch that?  This is the woman who could not afford to have her emaciated older stallion euthanized, has no power, yet she can afford to go out and buy a brand new computer.  Judging by how many message boards she is a member of, it would seem the majority of her life is spent online.  Priorities…..

 

“Yes…financial issues for the last year plus. Had renters in second house who didn’t pay rent/electric (one meter for entire place) for 7 months, did approx $5K in damages and hay prices went sky high….fed horses and lost the ranch eventually this last spring. NO mares bred for this year or next (unless they got preg with stalllion/yearling colts running with mares….posting photo of them in a minute). Offered horses for sale lots of places including local radio classifieds (for as low as $250 for registerable…all paperwork completed….4 year old with all ground work done, saddled, bridled, ground driven, trailers, ties, bathes, clips etc……so please don’t tell me I didn’t have reasonable prices…chihauhau pups sell for more than that!), craigslist, Dreamhorse etc. Do you really think it smart to just give away horses to anyone who walks up and wants them? Aren’t we told that this is dangerous for the horses? Besides, I could always negotiate down if it seemed like a good home….and did in a couple of cases…not sure I’m required to post any horse I sell and what I sold it for out there for the general public to discuss.”

– By several accounts, when people came out to buy horses from Dorothy, she would raise the price or back out of the deals.  Now she is all concerned about what would have been best for the horses.  She says no mares have been bred and I guess we’ll find out in the coming weeks whether or not that statement is true, although she had this to say in April: “I’ve had the mares listed for on-site leases and got three looking like that will work…which will help…they will at least be bringing in enough to cover their costs. The youngsters will likely go to the NRCHA Snaffle Bit sales in the fall as well as possibly a couple of the mares (will be bred for 2 in 1 packages….one possible three in one….with foals by HZ son of res world champion/double bred Delta O’Lena/Nu Bar for guaranteed tobi foals)….”

Yearling colt getting his elf boots trimmed off

 

“Old stallion had health issues off/on for almost a year….strangles in late summer, pigeon fever in late fall with last abscesses draining in Jan. Move here in late May was tough on him….had to pen and separate from bachelor herd…..paced and hollered for almost 2 weeks. Then sand colic and possible founder. On bute, SMZ, omeprazole (for possible ulcers),epsom salt soaks, 30 lbs alfalfa a day plus sr feed, calf manna….just kept loosing wt…eating eagerly and interested in everything. Blew out two foot abscesses during the summer. Drinking 30-35 gallons a day and peeing the same.”

– Founder, excessive drinking and peeing, advanced age?  Sounds to me like this horse went metabolic on her and was in kidney failure.  If that was the case, a high protein diet like alfalfa was probably adding to his issues.  At any rate, if he was the downed horse in the news link posted on Monday, he was allowed to suffer far beyond what would have been considered humane.

 

“Was on new place less than 5 weeks when deputy came saying there was anonymous complaint…..only person who could see pens/mare field is neighbor to the south (wife works dispatch for sheriffs office and he openly told me he wanted the runoff/excess water from the irrigation system that feeds the pond on my back field….neither piece of land has irrigation rights so this would not be a legal move on his part). Sheriff’s deputy at that visit said “no evidence of neglect…several issues, not serious, being addressed with plans and treatment”…he did two more drive by checks and testified last week that he didn’t think anything had changed for the worse.”

– I’m wondering how he did two drive by checks on her horses when she clearly states nobody could see her pens or field from the road.

 

“Told him that if the old horse didn’t show improvement by Aug 1 I would be making decision to put him down. Several mares that had sand colicked (place is 10 acres and at least 12 feet deep in fine sand) were pulled from the field, treated, put in separate pens and given more feed to help gain back what they had lost. Vet testified last week that they could dramatically loose wt with sand and it could take a long time to regain…stated gain rate of 1 to 1.5 lbs a day so even a 75 lb wt loss could take more than 2 months to gain back.  He also testified that if that was the case with these horses it was not an indication of neglect.”

– Again, go back to the video posted at the beginning of this entry.  Why would you allow your horses to grub around in the sand for their feed?  You’re asking for trouble!  Also, 1 to 1.5lbs of grain a day is supposed to help them gain weight?  My at rest horse gets more than that for his LUNCH.  She states her place was only 10 acres and we know for a fact that 34 horses were on that property.  Think about that for a minute….

 

“Regarding foals (long yearlings)….they boarded out for winter/early spring in exchange for two breedings to perlino stud to a couple mustang mares…gal had river bottom land. Got the mares covered early spring and then the boyfriend of the gal called to say they had had a big fight and split and she’d left, leaving horses. Got them back late April (don’t remember exact date) with pot bellies, bad feet, no handling, no worming, thick, matted coats with burrs etc. Moved here immediately after that bringing foals with. Spent some time getting them haltered and treated for worms and feeding. Used Safeguard first..not much effect. Then used a generic Ivermectin and two had really nasty photosensitive sunburns within a couple days…progressed to peeling, cracking, bleeding on legs. Since they weren’t broke to stand tied yet and handling caused severe pain reactions I elected to let legs heal before grabbing and holding feet for trims.  Treated legs with sprayed on diluted aloe vera and they were gradually healing.”
– She clearly states she got her horses back in April.  It is now nearly October and they still have infected cuts on their legs, blistered skin and elf boots.

 

Infected laceration on mare’s leg taken at rescue

 

“Meanwhile, sand colicked horses were doing better (and all horses were on feeders….got a few from some nice people by way of local radio classified ads….to keep them from eating on sand). Old stallion continued to go downhill and I called vet regarding putting him down….was told price and that it would be required to be paid in full at the time including disposal fee if done at the clinic. I had just put almost $1500 into getting a new pump, pressure tank, generator to get water on the place (other than pond for the mares)….was hauling about 1000 gallons a day for the penned horses for the first two months I was there.”

– I do not know of a single vet that wouldn’t put the horse down if it was suffering.  I’m wondering if there was an issue with outstanding bills  Even so, why not call a neighbor, animal control, or rescue for assistance doing the right thing for this horse?

 

“Should have had $ for putting him down early Aug….and then my sister died….colon cancer and went downhill much more rapidly than anticipated. Put horses, tack, harnessing, carts, blankets, etc for sale, begged for work, had fliers around town, even put them on Craigslist. I had $ for feed (buying 40 or more bales of 105-115 lbs each every week) but not for additional things that all came at one time.”

– I really have no comment on this.  I don’t live anywhere near Nevada so not sure if any of this was done.  All I do know is that the people that came forward since this happened, have said she wanted to put her prices up on the horses as soon as anybody showed interest.

 

“Lots of things very wrong with this whole thing. Nevada brand inspectors actually taking part in seizure (head inspector said this was not to be done) and one (Deveny Nelson) posted within an hour of leaving my place to the “rescue” that she had a big bunch (can’t remember exact wording…have a screen shot saved) for the rescue…using her position as brand inspector to hustle for a rescue? She belongs to several animal rights groups.”

– Yup, it’s always the fault of AR people.  Nevermind the neglect and abuse, it’s a conspiracy by the AR people…

 

“She’s also posted that the place was a dump, that there were a lot of feral cats (not one seen in any sheriffs dept photos and unlikely to live well with the high coyote population around here)….yes….weedy and lots of trash…had been vacant/abandoned for almost 2 years with racoons, a single cat (one was all I saw) and some birds living in the open house when I took the place. Perimeter fence good but cross fencing/pens a joke…..I’ve raked and burned almost 4 acres, put up my pens (smallest 12 x 12…”too small”….with others ranging from 12 x 16 to 18 x24 for single horses and 32 x 46 for a couple of mares penned together).”

– I just want to remind everybody that there were THIRTY FOUR horses on this small place.  Now she says that the house was open and had no electricity.  I’m wondering why social services haven’t intervened on her behalf?  This clearly does not sound like a place fit to live for any living creature.  She also does have a lot of cats.  She breeds and sells rag doll cats.  She even has a Facebook page for that operation.

 

“Deputies approached with “concern about old stallion”….had my permission, request that he be put down as they told me they had resources to help out owners. Took him and kept him from Friday to at least Tues and possibly to Wed of the next week (I’ve not been told when he was put down and vet testified that he didn’t know when or which of the vets in his clinic did the deed). Dr David Faught of Lahontan Valley Vet Clinic (which which I had a client relationship and an earlier billing dispute this last spring) “assessed” the horses…..did not put a hand on a single one, was there maybe 20-25 minutes, testified a week ago that he didn’t need to touch to do a BCS, that visual was enough and that there were no horses above a 3 on the place. When asked about specific horses he said he couldn’t remember without a photo (which I had been prevented from taking once they were off the place).”

– Admits to the billing dispute with vet here.  The following is a picture she took of the horses after they were seized from a distance.  They don’t appear to be skeletal, but you also can’t see their feet or legs from the distance either. She has since taken her website down, but the pictures always cut the feet off the horses.

 

“Mares/fillies were hauled together with stallion(s) and brand inspector said they were separated at the sales yard…..not true as there are photos of 3.5 year old stallion and 1.5 year old colts with the mares and fillies in one pen.  Horses were immediately free fed high quality alfalfa (sales yard feeds mostly cattle so much of the hay is probably dairy quality)….if the horses were truly in a starvation condition this would likely have killed at least several of them.”

– I would appear that starvation was not the primary reason for seizure, although that does not mean they weren’t headed that way.  Should the authorities waited until they were actually dropping dead?

 

“NV law says clearly that a horse sold to cover a board bill must go through a board lien foreclosure process…..bill to the owner with 30 days to pay it, certified letter to notify of intent to foreclose, publication in three places in the county for 10 days plus one publication in local paper and sale to be held not less than 10 days nor more than 15 days after publication. No more horses can be sold than to cover the board bill…any oversale money goes to the owner (for example…10 horses, board bill of $450, 5 horses selling for $100 would be the max allowed to be sold with remainder of horses and $50 oversale to go to the owner).  Owner also has option of having independent appraisal and the lien holder to take horses based on that appraisal to cover the bill with remaining horses to go back to the owner.  “

– I’m not exactly sure what Nevada law is as far as horses that have been confiscated or seized.  Although, there is board and vet bills accumulating on these horses daily so it’s probably digging a hole she’s never going to get out of.

 

“Now add in the legal obligation of the DA’s office and the sheriffs office to maintain “evidence” and to make the evidence available to the defence in a criminal matter to be examined directly…..and the horses are no longer available.”

– Which may also explain why the rescue is unable to field any adoption offers for these horses right now?

 

Hind foot of Mare “19” after two inches were taken off

As of right now, all the mares and babies are at Northeastern Nevada Equine Rescue in Wells.  I believe the colts and stallions will be moved by tomorrow.  I’ve read a lot of people trashing this rescue and it’s chair.  From what I understand this is a relatively new rescue.  Personally, I’ve never heard of them good or bad.  I’ve seen accusations that they’re breeding horses, they can’t handle the numbers, adoption fees are too high etc.  I guess, I’m of a wait and see attitude about it. There has certainly been enough publicity around these horses that people will be watching closely.  I can’t see that they’ve done anything wrong to this point as the horses were released to them.  I have no problem with them asking for donations.  Anybody that ends up with over 30 extra mouths to feed almost overnight would do the same.  There are virtually no rescues sitting around with the capacity to take on that many horses.  They have a huge task ahead of them given the condition of some of the horses and I certainly wish them the very best.  If people truly care about the animals involved, I would think they would either step up and donate or get out of the way and let these people try to save these horses.  Prior to NNER stepping up, they were headed nowhere good and they certainly were not being properly cared for with Dorothy Robertson.  Remember, Dorothy was a very vocal supporter of slaughter.  I’ll leave you with a quote she made back in March:

“It would be just devastating to me but I think also to the Paint performance world if these mares were to go to slaughter.”

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Busy Week So Far!

Well, as predicted Slaughterhouse Sue has fully recovered from her DC field trip and has returned to Facebook to fan the flames of apathy over at The United Horsemen.  My crystal ball has been very accurate this week so far.  We have a few newsy things from Suey and she has somehow found the time to write another dissertation on how super awesome horse slaughter would be.  I’m still trying to finish my own dissertation on how super awesome it would be if asstards were not allowed internet connections, but that will have to wait for another day….

“On Saturday, October 6th, I will be speaking in Colorado at the Colorado Horsemen’s Conference on “Building a Better Future for the Horse Industry.”

My presentation will be about about how we need to rebuild the industry from the bottom up, and that the way we restore value to all horses, is to make sure that every horse, especially those that are unsuitable or unwanted for other purposes, retain their inherent dignity and value. As we all know, when horses have value, they get cared for. I will talk about the efforts of the processing industry to ensure that horses are handled humanely and safely at every stage. And what the world will hopefully look like once we have had a year or two to return things to normal…(full of healthy, well-cared for horses, and horse people with plenty of opportunity). “

http://coloradohorsecouncil.com/index.cfm?id=e8cf71ab-b44f-37a2-28c098c32cbbc88f&convention.html

 

Ok, I have a few problems with this.  *shocking*  For one thing, is this really the best that the Colorado Horse Council can do as far as getting an `expert’ to come in and talk about `Building a Better Future for the Horse Industry’?  Despite what my haters would like to believe, I am industry and I would want a respected member of the industry to address this topic, rather than a backwoods bumpkin whose only interest in the `industry’ is to put a horse on every dinner plate in the USA and line her own pockets with the profits.  WTF?  If that’s too tough to find, why not at least track somebody down that owns a single horse?   How is anything Slaughterhouse Sue has to say about the `industry’ even credible given the fact she has not for one single day made her living from horses nor does she own any. I don’t want to hear the whole `but her family raises horses’ BS either.  I have two siblings that are doctors and that doesn’t qualify me to give you a rectal exam.  She wants a year or two of slaughter to `return things to normal’.  Suey, you’ve had 40 years of slaughter to make it work and it never has.  You still have asstards like Dorothy Robertson (see previous blog) hoarding and neglecting her livestock and she SUPPORTS slaughter. There was nothing preventing her from shipping her horses to slaughter other than her own delusions and greed.  How are you going to fix that?  Is there anybody other than the three remaining UH supporters and her dedicated ass barnacles that even buy this crap anymore?

Guess what?  Ole Suey wasn’t finished yet.  She donned her Unified Equine Business Association hat and compiled a comprehensive report entitled, ” The Promise of Cheval” to submit to Congress and the USDA claiming to be an accurate representation of the `majority’ of the horse industry.  In Suey’s cover letter she states:

“These so-called animal rights advocates seek to demolish what is left of a beleaguered horse industry, and will only result in the increased suffering of horses. Worse, if the animal rights agenda prevails it will spell the eventual death knell to horses as a genetically diverse and viable domestic species. It is the position of the International Equine Business Association members and supporters that extremist animal rights organizations do not have a vested interest in either the welfare of horses, or the people who seek to make their livings with them, and as such, should have no standing in determining proper animal welfare, or the regulation of the horse business.”

I think that paragraph right there should fast-track the following report into the majority of circular files belonging to the people it gets sent to.  She can’t seem to wrap her mind around the fact that many, if not most, anti-slaughter advocates are not affiliated with PETA or any organized animal rights group.  We just love and respect horses and don’t want to see them tortured. As an industry person that does make my living with horses, I do have a vested interest in seeing that we do not encourage further neglect, abuse and over production by bringing back slaughter.  Suey also disqualifies herself by saying that if you don’t have a vested interest in the welfare of horses or make your living with them, you should have no standing in determining their proper welfare or regulation.  Hmmmm.  Or, how about this?  If you don’t get a say in whether there is slaughter or not, your tax dollars don’t have to go towards it!  Can’t have it both ways, Suey!  At any rate, the following report is long, boring and filled with all the skewed `facts’ and figures she always falls back on.  You can read it for yourself here: (http://ieqbassn.com/the-promise-of-cheval/)

I wish I could tell you these were the only two efforts from the Grand Dame of Slaughter this week, but I can’t.  The International Equine Business Association also sent out a newsletter with an attached survey.  It’s also available on their website : (http://ieqbassn.com/survey/).  Before I get into picking it apart, you should probably realize the survey is via Constant Contact (http://www.constantcontact.com/online-surveys/index.jsp). It’s not exactly scientific or even accurate. Anybody can get a free trial from them or get a survey for as little as $15/month.   I would guess that it’s not a bunch more accurate than a Facebook poll, but maybe they’ll get a pie chart out of the deal and we all know that pie charts are really impressive and mean that the data is super-duper important.  The preface to the survey promises….”At long last, companies are responsibly and ethically bringing products to the market. Imported and animal food products are available now. Domestically produced meat for home, restaurant, ethnic, and specialty markets will likely be available within the next few months.”  That’s pretty optimistic given the current pro vs anti climate on slaughter.  Anyhow, go take the survey if you desire. It’s carefully worded to draw you further in, so just read carefully.  The IEBA doesn’t really want us anti types to take it as evidenced by this statement:

“Feel free to forward to networks of horse industry organisations who understand the benefit of a properly managed equine meat industry, to working dog and pet animal groups, fur farmers, zoo and big cat sanctuaries. Also if you have friends who appreciate great food, are adventurous eaters, or are afficiandos of the slow food/gourmet/artisanal meat/locavore/celebrity chef scene…please include them. We will be sharing with a number of ethnic communities who have come forward already, excited about the prospect of their traditional favorites readily available right here in the United States.”

Are you ready for some good news?  Seems there is a little snag in the plan to open up the super slaughter-house, college, rescue, rehab, training centre, hair salon, micro brewery, in Oregon.  If you recall, Douchebag Duquette appropriated 234 acres near Hermiston, Oregon through a California company on which they planned to launch their flagship operation.  Seeing as that’s D-bag’s  home town, you’d think he’d have garnered some warm fuzzies and good will long ago.  Apparently not.  That land is only zoned for farm use and there is no water rights for his intended use.  Oops!  Even though it would be outside the city limits, officials are in opposition to this project and it would be up to a county commissioner to address the zoning issues.  Seems that there has been no application to change the zoning as of yet. I guess this wasn’t the `big thing’ Holy Theresa assured us D-bag was working after all.  (http://www.ktvz.com/news/Lawyer-Hermiston-horse-slaughter-plant-lacks-zoning/-/413192/16736582/-/kgh5bsz/-/index.html)

All in all, it’s shaping up to be a VERY busy and interesting week.  I’m still waiting to hear some updates on the Nevada horses beyond the fact that they have all been removed by a rescue and are currently getting the care and treatment they need.  Hopefully, there will be something solid to report by the week’s end.  There has been some word that charges may be pending, but that hasn’t been confirmed yet.  Also in light of a rather epic hissy fit that went on today, I may have a big reveal towards the end of the week.  Or not…..we’ll see.  I just want to leave you with this YouTube that was sent to me.  I truly wish I could take credit for it, but I can’t.  I laughed so hard I cried….Whoever made this is brilliant!  Thanks for making my day!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LfyB_S78U

 

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Sunday’s PSA

If you’ve been following along on the horse slaughter issue at all I’m sure you’ve heard a common PSA stance that if we don’t want horse slaughter, then all us anti people should just take in all the unwanted horses.  Never mind the fact that many of us have our own horses and make a point of not contributing to the slaughter pipeline, nor do we hoard, breed irresponsibly, or otherwise go over the limits of personal finances or time.  The fact we think slaughter is wrong means it’s up to us to pick up the slack for all the assholes that can’t use common sense or financial responsibility as it pertains to animal husbandry.  Not sure about the rest of you, but I am sick and tired of hearing that.  Once again, there has been a large seizure of horses and that’s not happy news.  Even though the horses belonged to a UH PSA, I’m finding zero amusement in this particular situation.  The PSA first reached out for help on the UH page back in March of this year.  This is a long story, so you best grab your coffee or whatever sustains you and settle in…

“In less than a month my little ranch is going to be in a foreclosure sale if I can’t find a way to bail it out. That means selling some/most of my horses which I’ve been trying to do for about 6 months now…with one sold. If the sale takes place the horses, dogs, cats and I will all be homeless. I’ve worked long and hard and put a lot of money into building a herd with the kind of bloodlines that would make the kind of foals I think/hope will sell to competitive people wanting to show horses. Yes, I’m one of the dreaded breeders…..who has had very few foals over the last several years and realized with the market that they would likely have to be held until they were two or older and started under saddle. I was good with that. Then one disaster after another came along including some health issues that have gotten worse over the last couple years and will require surgery to fix. I can still do the ground work but am not riding. Job loss and lousy renters that took 7 months to get out of the extra house meant no money to send horses out to a trainer. I’m not asking an arm and a leg for the young stock. And I’m working hard to find a way to keep the mare herd intact for the most part….a few are for sale while the rest are available for on-site leasing for breeders who don’t want to buy, ship and then breed and then perhaps decide to not use the mare and have to sell her. The leases cover her costs which would have to be done if she was bought so there is some savings. I’m asking for help from the horse community….if you know of someone who wants a nicely bred young horse for a project or would love to get a foal from a well bred mare and can’t find one or doesn’t want to buy and keep one forever have them contact me. Things are getting scarey and I do not want to send daughters, sisters, granddaughters of world champions to slaughter in a couple more weeks.”

This is the first instance of this person reaching out to the United Horsemen for help.  The same group that mobilized a work party to bail Nancy Skakel’s sorry ass out of trouble when her horses were seized and she was charged with neglect and cruelty.  Anyhow, our current PSA in trouble has some suggestions made to her by fellow PSAs, but she wanted to maintain some control over the situation I guess.

“.I know this sounds really bad…..but giving away horses is a really bad idea around here. I just can’t see giving daughters and sisters of world champions to someone to breed mules with. Or try to make into a barrel horse at the age of 15 when she’s been a broodie for her entire life. I truly would rather see them go to slaughter than some of the things that happen to free horses….at least it would be quick.”

–  Keep this statement in mind.  It’s going to be quite chilling when we get to current events.

“I suggest if you get to that point of sending quality stock to slaughter, you turn to your UH group and ask for assistance in finding them REPUTABLE homes. We may be able to ask for rescue transport assistance. There are fates worse than death, BUT you have a group of people around you who would likely work with you to take these horses on. Trust those in your circle and offer these guys free to people you KNOW.”

– Ok there’s a vague offer of help.  I’m not sure of the sincerity of it, but it’s there.

“I’ve been asking for help for several months now (and working at selling horses for over a year since the job disappeared) and a few people have made suggestions that have been helpful but what I hear most is that I should just give them away. That sounds almost like the anti-slaughter folks rhetoric to me (give us your free horses). And frankly, giving them away doesn’t do much except take them off the feed bill…I need to SELL some in order to keep the ranch from going into sale and myself going homeless. I am feeding them….and if I loose my home I’ll find a way to continue to feed them if I have to find a bare patch of desert and throw a hot wire around it and haul hay and water….and live in my truck to do it…summers coming and it won’t be cold again until late October.”

– Remember this was back in March.  She’s going to do what it takes to feed these animals and she doesn’t want to give any away.

“…if it comes down to it I can keep some for you, no charge. I have acrage and hay. I just can’t keep the studs, I have more than I need of my own. When you get back on your feet you can come get them.I dont know if that will help and I have no problem signing any legal document stating they are yours so you don’t think they would go down the road.””

– There’s a firm offer of assistance.  I have no idea whether or not it was accepted.  This same person expressed interest in working a deal for one of the young horses as well.  Again, I have no clue whether or not she was taken up on her offers.

After a few other offers were thrown out, some of the PSAs actually attempted to talk some sense into this person.  No, they weren’t our usual suspects, but PSAs just the same…

“At a $1000 that’s a tuff sale in this market with their breeding. You can buy REALLY nice horses threw sales at $800-5000 and they don’t even come close to the stud fee. I would list them on Craigslist in surrounding states but realistically you will get like $200-500 maybe $750 for them. I would do dream horse, Craigslist, fb sale pages and just mark them low So they will go”

– Sounds reasonable enough?

“I don’t know why you think these are such poorly bred horses. I don’t want to get into it but damn….world champion, NRHA Open and limited open, NRHA Bronze, for sires….there are a lot of QH’s out there without that good of a sire that are selling. Or PCCHA fut. finalist, John Wayne Derby finalist, NRCHA COA….these aren’t good enough? Do you have any idea how few Paints have anything like this on their papers? Do you have Docs Hickory on papers on your Paints….or Doc Bar? I am willing to sell for lowered prices but am NOT giving away these bloodlines. In many of them a grandson or granddaughter is as close as you can get to the big QH names in the Paint world…many of those horses were NEVER bred to Paint mares at all. There are maybe a half dozen Paint grandsons of Doc Bar in the world today.”

– Your horses are worth exactly what somebody else is willing to pay for them.  Nothing less, nothing more.

“I’m not saying their not nice any horse can be nice but 1 paints don’t bring much money 2 they are bred decent but not high dollar bred. if you really want to get of your pickle then they need realistic price tags.”

– Again, this is sound advice.  This woman is about to lose her ranch and ability to feed them.  She needs to get some horses off her feed bill somehow.

“.Paints have traditionally brought less $ as they have also traditionally had less in the way of breeding. Some of us are working at changing that by incorporating the best QH lines we can find and afford with the top of the Paint performance lines. I don’t expect top QH prices but I do expect to be above meat price when the pedigree for working is there. There probably aren’t a lot of Paints out there from daughters of Boon Bar…and in foal to $ earning son of Lenas Sugarman out of a SCO daughter. The young stallion here….is a homozygous tobiano whose pedigree is entirely QH with the exception of one line to color both top and bottom…and that goes through Delta, the first Paint in the NCHA Hall of Fame and dam of a Superstakes winner. That may not count for much in your world but in the Paint world….that’s decent. And since he’s HZ it means I can find the very well bred QH mares and get colored foals with good breeding….such as the Docs Stylish Oak/Nu Cash granddaughter I have (both sire and dam are $ earners) or the double Docs Hickory (and her daughter by Slamin Doors, a Haida’s Little Pep out of a SLL daughter). I think those pedigrees will stand up to even some of the most critical of QH breeders.”

– None of this PSA’s horses are broke to ride.  While her dream is admirable, there comes a time to cut bait and face up to the reality of the current situation.

Ok, remember this all went on back in March of this year.  She has clearly stated she would rather see her horses go to slaughter rather than give them away, yet has shown resistance to lowering her prices or having just anybody buying these horses.  She also stated that she was prepared to live in her truck in order to keep these animals fed if it came to that.  In May she posted that she had found an acreage to rent for herself and her animals but was still looking to sell or lease a few out.  She did mention that water would need to be hauled, but there was a `pond’ for the horses to drink out of.   Late in June, I posted another quote from this PSA from the HFA page.

“ Ranch in foreclosure and I’m moving….can’t take them all with me.  Priced from $1 to $750. Some registered, some not, some can be and have paperwork ready.  Yearlings to 5 year old.  Some have been saddled/bridled but I can no longer ride and can’t afford trainer.  Well bred for cattle work….bloodlines include Doc Quixote, Doc O’Lena, Docss Hickory, QT Poco Streke, Ris Key Business, Smoke N Cotton, Broadway Doc, Docs Muchacho and others….on papers or three generation pedigrees for the couple not registerable.

Out of time, money, hay….keeping only the very core of the breeding program“

– Seems she had finally decided to lower her prices, but it turns out that `some’ aren’t even registered and can’t be.  Yet, this PSA still wants to keep her breeding program up and running.  She has lost her farm, she does not have a job and she has `health issues’, but intends to keep right on breeding.  She has mares in foal for next year.  There is no mention that she has shipped any to slaughter or sold many, if any.  I would suspect the situation is getting quite dire at this point.  Last week this was posted all across the net…

“Long long story…..end result…..34 horses taken without search warrant, without seizure warrant, no show cause that I can clearly see. Deputies came in with statement that they would help in getting an old, ill horse put down….local vet refused care unless I had full amou

nt in hand (his office staff…he didn’t talk with me directly…”busy, he can’t take call” from staff). Horse was ill last winter, got better, got sick again, got better, moved, did not tolerate being confined in pen (used to 20 acres and running in bachelor herd with buddies), got sick again, mild colic (treated for possible sand..new place is a sand pile), got better, sore front foot, blew abscess out of coronet, got better, got sore again, treated with epsom salt soaks, antibiotics, bute, omeprazole for possible ulcers, lots of feed (eating approx 30 lbs alfalfa a day in hay plus sr feed, calf manna, oil)….began loosing wt seriously about mid July. Decision made early Aug to put him down as soon as I had money to do so….on radio classifieds trying to sell stuff, find extra work etc, horses on there as well and on Dreamhorse, Craigslist etc….no buyers anywhere. Deputy out July 1 on anonymous complaint and found no neglect….one or two slightly thin (including sick older horse and two that had strangles prior to moving down here and two that had sand colicked almost on arrival here) and some yearlings with needed hoof trims….needed help in doing them as they arent yet trained to stand tied and nothing here really strong enough to risk them pulling back against). Said he did followups a couple times and saw no changes that looked like neglect but did not come on property to see pens (not visible from road) could only see pasture with binoculars. Sister died in Aug. and that took some time/attention/money. Buying 40 bales (105-110 lbs each or slightly more) a week……around 4200-4400 lbs of hay a week…nice alfalfa. Feeding 34 head an average of about 640 lbs a day (some are yearlings and most adults are 14.2 sized so not 1100-1200 lb animals). On 9/6 I got home to a note from deputy (placed on house door….had to climb over fence….gate locked) that they had an anonymous complaint regarding horses and please call. I did so. Told that they would be out to see in the a.m. When they got here they said they understood that there was a sick animal…I said yes, that I was trying to gather the $ to put him down, that $ resources were somewhat depleted by having to buy generator, pump and pressure tank for well and for sisters final expenses and they said they had resources and could help me. Came in, looked at all horses (still a few thin ones…..had been sand treated, pulled out of herd and were being fed extra to regain lost wt….and 3 that needed feet done…helper on vacation and would help upon return in several more days at end of the weekend). Said they would have vet out to help with putting old stud down. I agreed and gave verbal permission. Vet called….same one whose office refused services more than a month earlier (only one full time large animal vet clinic here….one other that comes in occasionally and I wasn’t aware of him at that time). Vet did NOT put the horse down, did not do hands on assessement of horses, said entire herd malnourished and recommended impounding all. I got as many photos as I could but ran out of battery power. Loaded them (including sick guy) into stock trailer and hauled them about 5 miles away to sales yard. Took until about 10pm and they hauled mares with stallions, long yearling colts/fillies together, were going to haul adult breeding stallions together as well. No receipt, no charges of neglect, no arrest. Sunday a deputy came by and gave me a notice of seizure listing the horses with very brief descriptions (some so vague as to not be able to ID the horse and including the description of a gelding….there was no gelding here…..and a roan mare…no roans here…..descriptions via NV Dept of Ag brand inspectors. Notice included info that the horses were at the sales yard where a $5/head/day board fee was being charged under a “limited lien” (only thing I can find says they can only charge board for up to 14 days). Notice said a hearing scheduled on Wed, 9/12 to determine if the horses were to be sold, put to sleep or turned over to an officer to do with as he saw fit. Says the cause of seizure was the horses were malnourished and in poor environment. Notice was not dated or timed regarding service….I insisted the officer do so and he reluctantly did it (and signed) when I pointed out that without date/time of service I could claim I didn’t get it at all….or just hours before the hearing. On Tuesday, 9/11, a deputy again climbed over my fence to present me (I was in the house which sits about 300 feet back from the road/gate, reading a book and cooling off after doing some outdoor work…scared the bejesus out of me when he banged on the door) with a form requesting my permission to have the old stallion put down. I told him I couldn’t give permission as it was not clear if I still owned the horses or not since the brand inspectors were on site on Friday when they were taken….brand inspection is used for a change in ownership here. Told him they had my permission, in fact, had my request that the horse be put down on Friday and the vets statement it was needed immediately….that they had held off doing this for 4 days in order to accomplish it on the day the sale yard is open to the public and doing so on Tues would garner them a lot of publicity….that they needed to go to the court for a court order to put him down. Wed. 9/12 was the hearing….at this they claimed that the horses were starved and in poor condition, that the pond on the property was not adequate for watering the field horses (never mind that horses have lived there and drank from that pond for over 20 years), that the 2 12×12 pens with single horses in them were too small, that the other pens (ranging from 12×16, 12×22, 12x 24 and 18×24) were also too small and that having three yearlings (remember that these are horses that mature to 14.2 or 14.3) in a 12 x 24 was far too crowded. They claimed no hay (there were photos of 14 bales ), no feed (two 33 gallon garbage cans with sr feed in one, alfalfa pellets in the other) and that the chewed on 20+ year old fence posts were evidence that the horses were eating wood due to starvation. I was still not charged with anything. I asked for more time to find legal assistance. Was accidently given a copy of photos that they took….they took no photos of any of the hroses in good condition..none, not a single one. Got a one week extension to today. Taking a short break….back in a few minutes.
3:15pmExpand
OK….today……hearing to determine if horses should be sold, put down, handed to an officer to do as he sees fit. Still no charges against me. Threw them a slight curve last week with info that two of the horses they took were leased by me. During the week I found a number of things. One is that the ONLY neighbor who can see my back field and pens is also one who has tried to divert water from the ditch that feeds the pond (it is run off/tail water from irrigation system) to water his back 5 acres and raise a herd of meat goats (he has no irrigation rights….what you need to have..ie…pay for…to irrigate more than maybe a yard sized patch)….and his wife works for sheriff’s dispatch. He CLAIMS he nor wife are behind this and that in fact his wife just accidently heard a discussion at a restaurant in Reno (60 miles away) from a woman at a table behind her saying she had been to Fallon to see some horses for sale and they were all starving to death…..wife reportedly turned and asked “where in Fallon” and was given my location. Interesting….I’ve had no women from Reno and only one woman at all out to see horses in the last 2 months. There is a religious group here whose members hold many if not most e positions of authority including high positions in sheriffs office, many other spots, justice of the peace, judges etc. My neighbor is also a member. Don’t know if that’s significant or not. During the week I tried to get an attorney….was told that since I had no charges filed against me there really wasn’t a case for them to take on. Also told my one that this sort of thing would never happen to him “because my family has been here for over 100 years and the law is not equally enforced here”…..that’s a quote. Got some photos of the horses yesterday….and they are running a 3 1/2 year stallion and 3 long yearling stallions with the mares and long yearling fillies. Deputies today couldn’t remember a lot of stuff, had only their opinion (and no training) regarding whether or not horses were neglected. Was told by Justice of the Peace and assistant DA that since I had no attorney and was acting in my own defence (for what? no charges filed!) I would have immunity for anything I said. I took this as an offer to become meek and mild and apologetic and cry some and maybe get some of my animals back. Not happening. So….it got interesting with lots of stuff….vet couldn’t remember any of the horses that were above a 3 unless I could refresh his memory with a photo (they didn’t take any and I ran out of battery early on in this and the ones taken yesterday at the sales yard were “too far away, I can’t tell what condition they are in”). Vet admitted that a horse that sand colicked could loose dramatic amounts of wt and that after treatment and refeeding it could take several months for them to regain and that that situation was not neglect. He didn’t know when the old horse was put down or which vet in the clinic did so but admitted that something like cancer, internal abscesses from strangles or pigeon fever (both of which the stud had within the last 8-9 months), ulcers (possibly from confinement), foot abscesses etc could cause wt loss. Also claimed the horse was badly foundered in both front feet with rotation but no photos, no x-rays to prove it. Lots more stuff but upshot is that they are offering the horses to NE Horse Rescue (Elko, NV area I think) and those that don’t go there will be sold at the next available sale (could be later this afternoon or next Tues). When I was asked for a “final statement from the defence” I again pointed out I had not been charged with anything but that this hearing had apparently been a trial in front of a justice of the peace over whether or not my horses were neglected. This JP by the way, was previously a sheriffs dept employee…..in charge of the jail. And is running for office. When I asked the jp if the lien holder was going to follow the NRS regarding foreclosure of a board lien (has some notification and time line requirements) he slammed his gavel down and said that court was adjourned. Feel free to cross post this anywhere possible. This occured in Churchill County, NV, under sheriff Trotter and JP Mike Richards. The vet involved was Dr David Faught (trained at Washington State) of Lahontan Valley Vet Clinic. He testified that he didn’t have to do a hands on assessment of animals to determine body condition score, could not give the name of the developer of the BCS and said that “eyes on” is sufficient.”

– 34 horses were seized and in poor condition.  One horse in such bad condition it had to be put down right away and allegedly none of the horses above a 3 in body score.  At this point I’m not even sure where to place my outrage at this situation.  For sure I’m pissed at this PSA for letting things go this far by being completely stubborn and barn blind.  I’m pissed that the UH who claim to be all about helping each other didn’t step up and do anything meaningful when they claim that’s what they’re all about.  Rest assured, these assholes have plenty to say about this situation now….

“i read that and am not really sure on the whole deal… there is always two sides to a story, but anyway i look at this its not a good deal.. you cant just snatch peoples property and sell it… this is america, i would love to see pictures of the horses, i know dorothy has been over her head for awhile, she has some very well bred paints i studyied the pedigree’s when she was trying to sell them.. she was firm on her prices and was to high the market right now.. as you know brood mares are a dime a dozen.”

– I actually agree with this person.  There are two sides and I haven’t seen many current pictures of these horses either.  There is no way they could have just taken her horses without warning or proper investigation.

“I have been an expert witness on several unjustified seizures, now. Win or lose the owner is on the hook for huge bills! Even if innocent! So far they have all been older single women with 20-100 horses….”

– Unless you are wealthy enough to afford the staff, no SINGLE person should ever have 20-100 horses, especially an older single woman.  WTF?

“i feel very sorry for her-she mentions it in passing but can you imagine having your sister pass away in the middle of this? where is the compassion from the authorities?”

– Where was your compassion for this person before things got away from her?  Where is your compassion for the animals that were starving and neglected?

“She has done nothing wrong! Where is the outrage from the world?“

– Oh trust me, I’m very outraged right now.  I’m outraged on several levels….

“NOBODY has the right to come in and take your property just because they “think” you aren’t handling it/them correctly. This is outrageous.”

– Turns out they can.  I’ve said it a million times before, horses are not inanimate objects that you can do whatever the hell you want with.  There are laws to protect them from neglect and cruelty…property or not.

“There is more to this than overzealous law enforcement. Horses wouldn’t have been taken like this. Almost impossible to get them to do anything, in any state, even when horses are laying down and dying of starvation right in front of them, so if they seized them? It was bad.If you aren’t caring for your animals, or your family, someone needs to step in. If you don’t have the money to care for them, feed them, or vet them, you don’t need them.

And she has been in trouble a while now too, and kept breeding horses, when it was clear the economy was going down in the horse market. If you can’t sell the ones already on the ground, QUIT BREEDING.”

– I feel like I have just found a living unicorn or the lost city of Atlantis!  An actual PSA with common sense and clarity!  WOW!

“But who are you, XXXX – or anyone else for that matter- to tell her how to live her life? It’s nobody’s business but her own. It’s no different than me trying to tell you, “Well you already have 5 horses, you don’t need to breed another one, so I’m going to call law enforcement and tell them to come take all your horses away because you have a problem.” Whether or not you and I agree with how she’s handling her herd, it is her own business.”

– I bet this PSA has posters of Crazyass Steve King AND Michael Vick on her bedroom walls.

“She didn’t have any bred until sheriff put studs with mares…”

– Yup, she did have bred mares prior to seizure unless all the ones she bred this spring slipped their foals due to malnutrition.

“deputies climbed her fence to inspect the property the gate was locked and she was away. Deputies know nothing about horses or animal abuse cases by their teestimony in court.….

Took no pictures of the horses seized, no descriptions of ALL seized naimals. Said one was foundered-no pictures (proof). Said there wer maggots-no proof….. They pick on easy targets-single women-Robyn Vess, Parkinson, several other women…..”

– What was she hiding behind locked gates?  Our gates are open nearly all the time except when I remember to go up and close them at night.

One of the rescued horses with skin blistering off it

One of the rescued babies…

Feet of the above filly…

 

 

As of right now, there is a Paypal account set up to send Dorothy Robertson, the accused,  money and a few UH people are allegedly trying to help her out.  The county sheriff involved in the seizure of these horses said that some had feet grown out so far they were having trouble walking and all were malnourished, some severely so.  I’ll leave some news links at the bottom for you to look at.  There is a rescue currently involved called Northeastern Nevada Equine Rescue and they are already taking some heat from the PSAs on Facebook.  While I find this to be a very sad situation, I’m extremely pissed off.  PSAs, including the one involved in this mess all tell us slaughter beats starvation.  Dorothy vowed to ship her horses to slaughter within a few weeks all the way back in spring.  Yet, here we are near the end of September and they are starving and dying with elf boots for feet.  I guess her promise to live in her truck in order to keep them fed was just playing for the crowd?  We are supposed to feel bad because she lost her sister during all this upheaval.  Well, I’ve lost people near and dear to me over the years and had my own share of trials and tribulations as well and do you know what?  Not once did my animals ever go hungry or suffer neglect during those times.  She also had 34 head of horses on 10 acres with no running water.  WTF??????

While Dorothy says the horse that was euthanized was an older stallion who had sand colic early and she had asked for somebody to euthanize him, Monte Bruck from the Livestock Exchange, where the animals are currently being held,  stated “It was starved to death. It was the worse case I’ve ever seen.” None of this should have come as any surprise to her since she was given a warning from sheriff deputies on July 1st of this year about the condition of some of her horses and their feet and one was taken and euthanized at that point.  News report here if you watch the linked video: (http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/More-Starving–Neglected-Horses-169555346.html).  She refused to give any away or lower her prices beyond what she felt was her due and now we have a glut of horses likely heading to either a kill buyer or rescue.  Somehow this is going to be spun into a reason we need slaughter, but this PSA ,who supports slaughter, did not avail herself of that option.  This is classic hoarding and abuse and a slaughter-house in every state is never going to prevent this crap from happening.  This is the manifestation of a mental illness and now a bunch of innocent horses are going to pay the price.  Dorothy Robertson and all her little champions over on the United Horsemen page should be ashamed of themselves.

One of the seized horse’s feet

(http://www.sierrasun.com/article/LF/20120913/NEWS/120919968/1088/olympicsAthlete&parentprofile=1&SiteParentProfile=1052&keyword=)

(http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/168992306.html)

(http://equimed.com/news/equine-health/nevada-horse-rescue-seeks-custody-of-neglected-equines)

(http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?s=314f3dbea246ab0c99a7b78dde60505e&t=368636)

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Way to Go New Jersey!

Great news out of New Jersey today.   The slaughter of horses for human consumption, as well as the sale and transport of horse meat  or live horses for human consumption is now banned in the state of New Jersey.  Happy Friday people!  More tomorrow…..

 

http://njtoday.net/2012/09/21/nj-bans-slaughter-of-horses-for-human-consumption/

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Is Everybody Ready? It’s Point and Laugh Friday!!!!

Hey Everybody!  What an awesome week it’s been on all fronts.  Our PSA pals have been flying high on Delusional Airlines and letting their freak flags fly like never before.  We’ve had the return of a few favorites so much so that it was almost like a class reunion for our Sunday’s PSAs.  As always, I’ve learned some new things this week thanks to our buddies.  Mostly I’ve learned that I’m `elitist’, but we’ll get to that in a bit.  I actually don’t have a problem with being called that  because it sounds so much more fun than being called `high maintenance’ which is what the other half usually hangs me with.  But I digress….Let’s get right down to business because we’ve got a lot to recap this week.  Welcome to Point and Laugh Friday….brought to you by the letter `I’ for insanity.

As always, we start with the Grand Dame of the PSA crowd; none other than Slaughterhouse Sue.  As we discussed earlier, she loaded up her current favorite ass barnacle, Puppymill Patterson, and took a little road trip to Washington DC, where they roamed the halls on capitol hill delivering their message of how they are going to save the horse industry by eating all the unwanted horses and keeping backyard breeders in business.  They were joined by fellow aspiring horse eater Annette Sweeney and had the pleasure of dining with Crazyass Steve King where they presumably bonded over their mutual blood lust and hatred of all animals.  Despite their full social calendar, Suey managed to find time to have another meeting with the USDA where she was told what we already know.  Nothing is going to happen before the election.  For some reason Suey found this news to be encouraging.  I guess I liken it to Dumb and Dumber where a million to one chance is still a chance.  You probably had to see the movie to get that reference.  Anyhow, as Suey has said she needs to recover and unwind from her social whirl in DC, she only found time to dredge up one measly link for the UH loyalists.  Basically, she found some article about a former employee of an HSUS horse sanctuary attempting to sue them.  (http://www.capitalpress.com/oregon/mp-humane-society-CAFO-091812)I’m not really sure what it has to do with anything, but as per usual, Ole Suey kept things classy with her preamble: “Figured you all would appreciate this news report about HSUS being sued by a fired employee over environmental violations. Something about running a CAFO (confined animal feeding operation) at their Duchess Sanctuary in Oregon. All sorts of smart alecky retorts come to mind…”turnabout’s fair play”, and “pot calling the kettle black” are a couple of the g-rated publishable ones…”
I guess the fact that the it smacks of a disgruntled employee trying to cash in escapes Suey because as long as she can find a way to put the boot in on the HSUS it’s all good in the hood.  I, for one, look forward to what she comes out with next as she seems to feel that sufficient time has passed that people have forgotten about all the other lies she has been caught in over the past month.  I’m predicting a Facebook linking extravaganza in the near future.

Sadly with Puppymill Patterson being wedged the furthest up Slaughterhouse Sue’s ass lately, Douchebag Duquette and Holy Theresa Manzella have been relatively quiet.  Poor D-bag was only let out of the basement briefly to type in two nonsensical comments to do with being all impressed with a pie chart.  You know, because if you make a pie chart, that means it’s really important data.  Holy Theresa has mostly been busy whipping herself into a lather over the presidential election and calling for the US to leave the UN.  Yeah, I don’t really get that either, but then again, I’m not a redneck hillbilly.  She’s also been busy conspiring with D-bag Duquette and assures everybody that “He’s got BIG things brewing to make us all happy when he can talk about ’em! Send positive energy his way.” If there is a God, that means he’s going to blog again soon.   I’m so excited!

This brings us nicely to the alternate reality of Mendy Tobiano.  She got her knickers in quite a twist when I mentioned the lack of grooming on her world-beating Mustang and devoted an entire blog to how it’s her `choice’ to not groom her animal and other justifications for her slovenly ways and poor animal husbandry.  I dunno, not only do I like my horses to look well cared for, I find the time spent grooming them allows me to notice little things that may become problems if not addressed right away.  I also like spending the time on them.  We also saw NT morph into several personalities this week, all with the same writing style, and take a big issue with `Elitist Snobs’.  I gather that I’m in that club because of the grooming thing or something.  If you recall, other than the `Mendiness’ of NT’s persona, we also have the `brutally handsome’ single farrier that likes to talk about female genitalia quite a bit.  That personality seems to have gone MIA and a `barn dad’ that isn’t a horse guy has replaced him to whine about why they should be respected for not owning horses or some crap like that.  I guess NT forgets that it’s actually the PSA contingent that look down their snouts at people that don’t own horses or live in the city and frequently tell them they shouldn’t have a say on the issue of slaughter.  NT then went on a tirade about horses being a LUXURY, which is also kinda what a lot of us on the anti side of things have been saying for a long time, but I’m sure she had a point in her own mind or something.  I didn’t really get it other than one of our former Sunday’s PSAs, Doris Kelsey (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/sundays-psa-2/)chimed in and proudly informed the four readers of the NT blog that she managed to keep her hoard of unbroke ponies AND still collect social security because she has ” never listed my ponies as an asset and that has never been questioned by social workers or social security”.  I guess getting taxpayers to support your hoarding habit is a PSA thing.  Yet another personality of NT’s complained about people wanting to buy horses cheap and how offended they were by that.  This leaves me very confused because according to the PSAs there is this glut of unwanted horses that are completely awesome and people can’t even give them away.  I have to admit I skim rather than fully read the NT blog entries due to the crappy fiction and the fact they are beginning to give me vertigo with all the flip-flopping going on.  I also get this image of a large bossy cow of a woman shaking her finger in my face with all the `damns’ she likes to pepper her writing with.  I have real issues with trashy people so it’s just not working for me.  I’m thinking of starting our own Anti version of `Why is NT so Angry?’ soon….

Now for a blast from our past.  Daffy’s back and she’s just as dumb as she ever was.  She has taken up residence over on a debate page on Facebook and I suggest you go enjoy her while she lasts, because she is mostly up to her old schtick of poor grammar, contradicting herself and picking fights, so I’m guessing a banning is in her near future.  She’s mostly talking about how super awesome her horses are and how she has horse meat in the freezer.  At least we have finally figured out why she is so stupid.  Apparently she is all hopped up on Bute and has been for twenty years.  “I have taken bute, actually taking some right now, because normal pain meds do nothing for my blown knee. Have been taking it for yrs. Just like my 2 old timer friends who have taken it for over 20 yrs. a peice a day. in your book they should be dead, but i can bet you they both would out work you any day. Healthy those two are.”  I guess God really does look after idiots and children.  Good to know…

Do you know who else has been back with a vengeance and spreading her pearls of wisdom?  That’s right….none other than Buckaroo Harmon!  I swear it’s a wonder she can find a cowboy hat to fit that big head of hers.  She’s really been busy stumping for the buckaroo fuckery she’s so fond of over on the debate pages extolling the virtues of big loop roping and other abusive crap buckaroos get into.  She’s also pretty much an authority on EVERYTHING to do with horses according to her and I’d have to devote an entire blog just to her to cover it all, but I thought y’all would like to hear how she likes to hobble break her horses….“I hobbled Jake for the first time in a plowed field, got out a lunge whip and tried to make him move.” Buckaroo has lots of other great training tips too.  She’s still getting wet panties over spade bits and all that crap.

Buckaroo is also still up on the slaughter soapbox and spreading her wisdom on the slaughter issue…

.”*sigh* “Humane”. What is inhumane about instant death? Even if the first shot doesn’t do it and the horse “suffers” another 30 seconds, is that not better than old Dobbin slowly starving to death in someone’s back yard or being turned out to fend for itself in the “wild”, of which it knows nothing of?….”

– Well a starving horse can be rescued and come to know a good life.  There is no rescue from a bullet in the face.  I’d also like any of these people to hold their hand in a boiling pot of water for 30 seconds and tell me that it’s no big deal like they think `another 30seconds’ between shots is.  That ain’t even half of the pain and suffering an animal will experience if the first shot isn’t clean.  I’d also like an actual verifiable statistic on the number of horses turned out to `fend for themselves’ in the wild….

“And the “banned substances” — you know, up until 6 years ago, it WAS still going on en masse in this country. Drugs have a withdrawal period, as has been determined by several studies; just because the FDA hasn’t done a study means nothing. The US is not the “be all, end all” you know. And the EU isn’t the only market for horse meat.”

– Buckaroo Harmon is one of the PSAs that absolutely refuses to accept that Bute is banned and will continue to be banned for a good reason and withdrawal periods are only for drugs in the blood stream, not the tissues.  She argues the Bute point endlessly and no amount of facts and research is going to penetrate her thick skull.  Good thing I put my tinfoil helmet on before writing this blog today….I always feel my IQ drops a few points if I spend too long reading their drivel.

We also had a brief check in from yet another former Sunday PSA, Randy`Asstard’ Janssen.  You may recall him and his love of horse tripping (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/08/05/name-that-psa/).  Seems he had himself a good ole time tripping horses and torturing them at their National Finals in El Paso.

“We had a great time at the National Finals USA, in El Paso. The lienzo was made of West Texas Rock and very attractive, with the Franklin Mountains as a back drop. Francisco “Pancho” Flores did a spectacular Mangana, standing on his horse doing Florero, while they passes the horse. He drops into the saddle to make the catch. We had lunch with Sr. Castillo, who was the announcer. He has been a Charro since 1950. He was given the golden spur, for his work with Charreria. He is a very interesting man. He was born in Mexico City, but learned to be a Charro in Guadalajara. He now lives in Washington State, where he helped start 14 Charro teams. He is a wealth of information about the nuances of Charreada. Looking forward to the National Finals in Zacatecas.”

What I find particularly interesting about his little blurb is the mention of the `spectacular’ Mangana  some old asshole did.  Mangana is horse tripping or `fore-footing’ the horse.  The last I heard this practice was banned in Texas so I’m wondering why they get away with it.  Is it just me or does anybody else ready `Mangana’ as `mangina’ every time they see it?  No? Good Ole Randy likes to call those of us disgusted by his `sport’ racist, but I can assure him that I wouldn’t care if you were black, yellow, white or a member of my immediate family; if you think this is entertainment you are an asswad and there is a special place in hell for you.  End of story.

So there we have it.  Our PSAs have put in a stellar week of asstardishness.  As usual, I barely skimmed the surface.  I have another pending entry that kinda needed its own treatment and hope to polish it off this weekend.  *insert polishing turd joke here* If you haven’t already, please go check out Heather’s blog entry debunking some popular PSA myths.  It’s all kinds of awesome.  I should know, because according to the PSAs we are one and the same person.  (https://heatherclemenceau.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/horse-sense-vs-non-sense-10-more-enduring-myths-from-the-pro-slaughter-posse/).  Hopefully, y’all recognize that I’m being sarcastic because not only am I not Heather, we don’t write like one another or look remotely the same.  I’ve also never been on her side of Canada other than stopping over in airports.  I’d also like to leave you with an update on `Buddy’ the horse at Safe Haven.  We’ve been following along with his progress since the PSAs called for his immediate euthanasia a few months back and wrote him off as a hopeless case.  He is now up to 700lbs from his original 515lbs and doing great.  The people at Safe Haven are doing an amazing job with him and their other rescues.  That seems a happy note to quit on.  As always, thanks for the emails and comments.  That makes you all part of the `team’ so go forth and claim to be me.  It’s awesome being me most days!

Buddy at 515lbs

Buddy at 700lbs

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Field Trips and Righteous Indignation

Sorry for the spotty post schedule lately.  It’s certainly not because the PSAs have dialed down the crazy or become any more enlightened.  It’s just a hellishly busy time of year here in the real world and Mother Nature has been a huge bitch the past little while.   Anyhow, I thought we would take a quick peak in with our PSA buddies to tide y’all over til Friday’s festivities.

Slaughterhouse Suey has made her triumphant return from her Washington DC field trip with Mindy`Puppymill’ Patterson just in time to fan the flames of paranoia and conspiracy amongst the ever dwindling UH loyalists.  They were hanging with Crazyass Steve King and Annette Sweeney from Iowa.  Just a reminder, both the Iowa peeps are all about the puppymills and Big Ag asshattery.  Quite the little clutch of animal haters for sure.  The PSAs are really fortunate to have such awesome individuals leading their charge.  Suey took the time to throw a few biscuits out at the UH upon her return.

“We are wrapping up a great week in D.C. this morning. Mindy Patterson just headed to the airport, Annette Sweeney is spending the weekend with friends before she heads back, I’ve got a couple more visits on the Hill and will be on the plane this afternoon. Last night we had dinner with Congressman Steve King, Iowa…what an outstanding champion for agriculture and common sense! He is in a tough race with the wife of the former Governor of Iowa, now Secretary of Agriculture, Tom Vilsack’s wife Christy. She moved into his district and rented an apartment–that’s right, she isn’t even bothering to invest in the community she seeks to represent. Speaks loads about her committment, I would say. If you are in Iowa, or you have resources to help Rep. King, it would be an excellent place to focus your efforts! Rep. Cynthia Lummis took time out of her evening to stop by and visit with us, as well. She is another great champion of animal owners and agriculture”

– Yes, Crazyass King is all kinds of awesome.  Just to refresh your memory on him, you can read this entry (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/slaughterhouse-sue-finds-her-soulmate/)All you really need to know about Crazyass, is pretty much an equal opportunity hater.  He hates animals, gays, and people that use birth control because he thinks that’s the same thing as abortion.  I also find it funny how Suey is all pissed about Christy Vilsack’s community commitment due to her lack of investment, when Suey is basically all about her own pockets.  I guess Suey can afford to stump for Crazyass King since her constituency is basically made up of her own clan that don’t seem to have a lot of forks in the family tree.

 

“Yesterday morning we had a good meeting at USDA, and I am happy to report that we have what I believe are strong commitments from the agency for a clear path forward in the horse business in the next couple of months. Nothing will happen in Washington D.C. until after the election. That is just the nature of the beast.

It has been a good and productive week! Now I need a couple of days to unwind and process everything that we have learned and accomplished.”

– So, basically tax payers paid for their little field trip and Crazyass King love fest and they didn’t really learn anything new?  Somebody elect me because my travel bills lately are atrocious!  Apparently, I need to be a little less `high maintenance’.

Now let’s move onto the righteous indignation portion of today’s discussion.  One of the UH PSAs decided to do his part and write his representative, Martin Heinrich imploring him to vote in opposition of the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act.  He posted a portion of his letter… “I request that you vote in opposition to the the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act (S. 1176/H.R. 2966). Horse slaughter needs to be regulated in the U.S. and it is a very necessary method to help us control the horse overpopulation problem, caused by sick, infirmed, or just unwanted horses. …” So far, so good, right?  The hilarity comes in when this PSA received a form letter response that not only indicated that Heinrich had never actually read the letter, but he was pretty much anti-slaughter in his leanings.

“Thank you for contacting me regarding H.R. 2966, the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act of 2011. Horses are an iconic part of the Western landscape, and I appreciate knowing your thoughts on this legislation.

Representative Dan Burton (IN-5) introduced H.R. 2966, which prohibit the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption.

You will be pleased to know that I am a cosponsor of this legislation. H.R. 2966 was referred to the House Committees on Energy and Commerce and Agriculture. While I am not a member of this committee, I look forward to supporting legislation that will prevent the transport or sale of horses for human consumption.

Again, thank you for contacting me. For more information and additional details about legislation, please visit my website, http://heinrich.house.gov/. While you are there, you can also sign up to receive periodic updates on my work in Congress.

As always, I value your input and hope you will continue to keep me informed of the issues important to you.”

 

Now, I believe that this sort of thing happens all the time. That’s not to say we should stop writing letters and making our voices heard, but we also need to realize that there are people that handle the mail and depending on volume, the response isn’t going to be all that personal.  The hilarious part was the indignant comments that followed.

“He didin’t even read my email to see I was opposed to this regulation. Representative Heinrich is our enemy”

– I’m actually kinda liking Heinrich right about now….

 

“Mr. Heinrich, one of your constituents, XXXXX, recently contacted you, urging you to vote against this irresponsible and completely out of touch with reality legislation, only to receive a generic response assuring him of how wonderful it is that you are actually a co sponsor of it. That, Sir, makes you part of the problem, not part of the solution. As a member of the horse industry, you know, the ones who actually do care for and about the horses, as well as spending a LOT OF MONEY providing for them so that they, in turn, contribute a LOT OF REVENUES into the economy…THAT HORSE INDUSTRY, I am PART OF THE SOLUTION. Another part of the solution will be to vote clueless legislators, such as yourself OUT OF OFFICE.”

– Yup, when all else fails threaten and insult the person you are trying to sway.  Works every time!

 

“It’s a canned response to add insult to injury. I got the same letter……..BTW, he is also a co-sponsor of the PUPS legislation. He’s AR all the way which is why HSUS had given him $3< towards his campaign and an approval rating of 80%”

– I bet he likes Bob Barker and Betty White too.  That bastard!

 

“There has been SEVERAL replies from legislators that have stated they are opposite of what we stand for-I am not sure if the staff are anti-slaughter and purposely change your e-mails or if they just dont read them. I try to phone and VERY EXPLICITLY make sure that they know I am PRO-slaughter and I also point out that it is a violation of my rights to tell me what I can/cant do with MY property, and I give the very simple solution-if people dont like slaughter, dont sell their horse to anyone who may take it to slaughter, and if they dont like me selling MY horse to slaughter, they can offer me more for my horse than the meat buyer…”

– Don’t these politicians realize how important these hillbilly PSAs are????  Why aren’t they taking eleventy billion calls a day?

 

“CALL EVERY SINGLE LOCAL OFFICE HE HAS AND TALK TO THE STAFFERS! I have had this happen to me too and that is what I do – they are damn sure where I stand when I get done chewing their ears. Guy told me that they get over a million emails A WEEK. No one is reading those.”

– All aboard the Crazy Train!  Next stop the Land of Entitlement!

 

“We are too quiet. There is not a doubt in my mind, of and kind, that we are the majority.”

– I beg to differ….

 

“If the hacking into even the most highly secure military servers and accounts can be achieved by private sector geeks, who’s to say that the anti’s can’t hack congressional accts and intercept these emails? It’s “out there” but feasible. Also, all they need is for the staffers and interns of congress members to be antis, not the congress people, themselves. The staffers are the ones who send out the replies.”

– Seriously, coffee all over my laptop when I first read this.  I’m still laughing so hard I’m crying.  They found us out!  None of us own horses….we’re all computer hackers!

 

“we need to get organized and kill these bills. What other organizations and blogs can we contact to start a phone and letter writing campaign? I know of N’Tee Tobiano but that is about all. We also need to be known as something besides Pro-Slaughter, something like Caring Owners, Responsible Equines, or something else that doesn’t make us sound like blood thiristy rednecks.”

– I’m having trouble breathing at this point…..Yes, they should have NT lead the charge to get heard.  That will show all those Washington types and make them pay attention!  Now they don’t want to be known as Pros?  They want to disguise themselves as `Caring Owners’ and `Responsible Equines’?  I can’t make this stuff up!

 

This is just a teaser from our PSAs this week.  I have a feeling Friday will be epic if I can do it justice.   Keep up the good work everybody!

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I Wish I Could Be All Knowing Like A PSA

Seriously, I am learning so much thanks to our PSAs.  Today I learned that people are pro slaughter because they know what they’re doing unlike the rest of us that think it’s reprehensible to slaughter a horse.  In my ongoing research into the mysterious `bad’ horses that they keep talking about I found out that the reason the rest of us have horses we enjoy is because they,the PSAs, know what they’re doing.  Don’t believe me?  Behold these pearls of wisdom:

“I was reading something on another chat last night. Someone wanted to know WHY “pro slaughter” people have a higher rate of knowing horses that have issues; mental and/or physical. I think it boils down to this: Pro slaughter folks generally do not see their horses as pets. We see them as livestock. We’ve handled MORE horses than the average “pet horse” person. We’ve probably “rescued” more horses than a “pet horse” owner and some of us have even bred (obviously) more horses than a “pet horse” owner. So, next time you’re staring at your pet horses wondering WHY our horses have an issue, think about why you chose that horse in your backyard —- because he didn’t have an issue, or was trained or fixed by someone that knows what they are doing.”

– Oh no, she did NOT just say that…..Who knew?  Who knew that one person could be THAT delusional?  Sadly, this person is not alone.  It seems this is not an uncommon stance for slaughterphiles to take.

“And don’t you think “pro slaughter” might be more knowledgable about “noticing” mental/physical issues. Not saying pet owners are less educated or dumber than the pro slaughter people, but pro industry horse people are just more knowledgible in the horse industry. But as I’m typing this, I find myself not liking grouping pet owners as anti slaughter because I would have to categorize myself more of a pet owner than a pro industry horse person, and I am pro slaughter. Feel like I’m not making any sense here!”

– Oh!  That clears up a bunch.  The rest of us just don’t `notice’ our horses are bad or crippled and live in a rainbow bubble of delusion!  Maybe that’s why they are pro slaughter….they see things that are wrong with horses that escapes the rest of us.

 

“THIS is the time to put new slaughter plants to work with the recommendations set by Temple Grandin. The slaughter process is quite humane but she had suggestions to make some plants less stressful. The one video i’ve seen that was a US slaughter plant showed horses coming in one at a time, quietly, no stress, and shot once. It was swift and instantaneous.”

– Does anybody have a link to this video?  Because the ones I have seen have all been horrific.

 

“Speaking for myself, because I don’t want to assume others feel the same, I consider my horses pets, even some of our cows as pets, but also realize they are livestock. However, I would not send my own horses to slaughter but would have them put down, if necessary. But I agree for the need for slaughter, just not for my own horses. The point being I can still love my horses and be pro slaughter at same time.”
– This may be the one common statements PSAs make that pisses me off the most . If slaughter is so `humane’, then why isn’t it good enough for their horses?  Do they think that just because they don’t own the horses at slaughter they suffer any less?  Asswads!!!

 

“In a healthy market most of the horses who end up in slaughter houses ARE the rank ones; and the lame and the spoiled rotten pasture pets etc. In this market, anything in the bottom tier that isn’t marketable will go to slaughter even if it’s not lame or rank or spoiled.

The slaughter house is necessary to filter out those horses because let’s face it, they will ALWAYS be there. In a healthy market, the vast majority of the horses there should be there. In this market, good horses end up on a plate. If we had US slaughter houses two things would happen: the horse population would eventually stabilize and recover and there would be more jobs, even if only on a small scale.”

– I know we’ve been over this about a million times, but why can’t these people pull their head out of their asses. Good horses went to slaughter prior to 2007 and will continue to go until we shut it down completely.  Opening slaughterhouses would create MORE of a problem because it gives these morons a convenient disposal option for their messes.  If we had US slaughter, backyard breeders would go back in business in a huge way and dead horses don’t create all that many jobs….

 

“When those of you that oppose humane horse slaughter are able to feed, medicate, treat, and facilitate all of the unwanted, ill, and injured horses, please let those of us that support it know so we can help you begin your quest to provide them such a happy existence. Until then, please help us keep these poor animals out of the horrific and gruesome out of country slaughterhouses you have sent them to.”

– I think there are more of us anti people trying to clean up this mess than anybody else.  Do you know what I contribute to the slaughter pipeline?  ZERO.  If every self-professed horse lover did the same, there would never be an unwanted horse.  Guess what?  The slaughter houses in Canada are not one bit different from the ones that Slaughterhouse Sue wants to open and, depending on where you live, may still be a shorter haul.

 

“I do not support horse slaughter, I support highly regulated, inspected, and HUMANE horse slaughter. Now it’s time to try to put all differences and opinions aside and do what is ultimately best for unwanted, ill, and injured horses. Right now there is nobody with the funds or any other means that is willing to take care of all of them, especially in the current economy and drought.”

– Awesome!  I support fairies and leprechauns!  I really want to know how these people think any of this will happen with the budget cuts or why taxpayers are going to be happy to fund this disgusting practice to profit foreign businesses at the expense of their domestic food supply.

 

“For those anti slaughter, are you all vegetarians??? How is a horse going to slaughter any different and in humane then cattle and hogs going to slaughter to be butchered, packaged and sold in our stores?? I love my horses dearly and would probably consider them pets but still realize they are livestock. Slaughter houses are a necessary evil and if you don’t think so then why don’t you start feeding and caring for all the unwanted horses.”

– Why don’t you stop creating unwanted horses?  I wish mandatory sterilization for morons was a `neccesary evil’ too….

 

“The whole med issue is overblown. They use the same wormers on cattle that they do on horses. Few horses being sent to slaughter were JUST wormed, and the drugs have left their system in a short time. Same with bute, despite all the hype. Someone would have to eat MASSIVE quantities of “tainted” meat before ever becoming sick.”

– Somebody needs to alert the EU and tell them `no big deal’ on all the recent discoveries of adulterated horse meat we have sent them from North America.  This PSA says so!

 

I guess I’m going to have to go to the library and check out some Black Stallion books and maybe the Pony Club Manual so I can know as much as these brain surgeons.  I, for sure, should look into self medication because I am getting sick and tired of reading and seeing all these same old tired lies being tossed around as a justification for their asshattery.  Not only is it annoying, they regurgitate them with such conviction, people believe them.  I am excessively busy and cranky this week.  PSAs consider yourself  forewarned.  I’m truly done being nice.

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Sunday’s PSA

We’re going to do things a little different this week.  No mystery.  I’m going to recap some stuff with one of our favorite asstardians.  Mostly because I’m kinda irritated again and I think I need to share my outrage.  While this person has never actually been a Sunday feature, we’ve certainly discussed her enough times.  She’s not really a player on the grand scheme of things apart from epitomizing the brutality, ignorance and cold-hearted selfishness of the stereotypical PSA.  I’m talking about Angel Marshall.  The PSA that blames the lack of slaughterhouses for her having to send her crippled horse, Montana, on a 30 hour death ride to Canada, complete with a likely falsified EID so she could wring the last few pennies out of him.

To recap, Ms. Marshall of the clown car vagina, wants us to feel sorry for her because she loved her horse so much but didn’t want him to go to waste and contaminate the ground water by humanely euthanizing him at home.  She described his pain level prior to selling him to a kill buyer as `walking on razor blades’.  Apparently the horse had an abscess.  She alleges he also had acute ringbone but elected to let her farrier diagnose the horse rather than call in a vet and take a set of film to find out what was really going on.  Originally, she told people she wanted to take the horse to Canada herself and be with him when they shot him in the face at the slaughter-house.  Apparently, that was too much effort so she slapped him on the  ass, handed the shank to the KB and took her blood money.  We discussed it all here: (https://shedrowconfessions.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/let-this-be-the-last-time-we-speak-of-this/)  Here is a picture of Montana’s injury that basically signed his death warrant……

 

Because NT decided to jump into the fray to `defend’ this unthinkable act of cruelty, we also know Ms. Marshall has three small children, may be pregnant with twins and neither her or her husband have a job.  They collect assistance and basically work the system.  None of that has much to do with being a PSA other than the fact that what we’re going to talk about today shows a profound lack of judgement and ignorance.  I believe the original intent of that disclosure was to play on our sympathies, but for me, it ain’t working.  It seems besides her precarious family and financial situation Ms. Marshall is happily working on hoarding more horses and `fostering’ for a local rescue whose executive director has had a mention on this blog for her support of slaughter and eating horse meat in the past.  She says she was `tricked’ into it.  Whatever.  Asstards.  Anyhow, let’s hear from Ms. Marshall about what she’s been up to since shipping her beloved Montana to slaughter and how she’s spending up her blood money (which she claimed she didn’t keep for herself).

“My qh was just put down, miss him badly. Stuck with just my percheron/qh/morgan to ride now. Hes a great horse really, just a bit of an ass. Kids have a POA or something along those lines-gaited black and white paint pony. Have a class B mini too, and 2 mini donkeys, 1 we drive.”

– Put down????  I guess she doesn’t want her new group of Facebook buddies to know how Montana really met his end.

 

“Oh, and I have a heck of a qh in canada with her filly to go get sometime this fall, and my mom offered me a heck of a nice paint filly so eventually we will have those 3 here too.”

– She got the Canadian pair for another PSA who also had his picture in this blog and who NT featured in his defense.  We’re supposed to feel bad for him because he has an arm that doesn’t work even though he’s an abusive asshole that also sells horses to people that clearly don’t treat them very well or have the means to support them properly.  Money is money I guess….

 

“Question: Anyone have or ever had a halflinger? I am considering buying one when her training is done. Shes already a solid harness horse, but shes being broke to ride. I want a shorter nice heafty well put together horse and they look like they would be what I want. Curious to anything anyone can tell me.”

– WTF???  You can’t afford a vet or a bullet so your old horse didn’t have to suffer and now you’re merrily collecting an additional HERD to replace him?  Does anybody else have an issue with this or should I go take some meds?

 

“Just make sure whoever does it is doing it right. I had a great farrier friend wise up there, but sadly its taking a lot of time and money for my current farrier to fix the mistakes made on my horses. A farrier should aim for perfection. Proper angles need to be kept, the right amount of heel, a good toe…. ask lots of questions! Prices will vary, but remeber that often you get what you pay for”

– Yes, her farrier is so great she let’s him diagnose things only a vet should.  In fact, he was so awesome she sent an abscessed horse on a 30 hr trailer ride to his death in a slaughter-house based on the same farrier’s diagnosis.  I had a farrier we used to fly in to do one horse and he never diagnosed things that Ms Marshall’s did.  Silly me wasting all that cash!

 

“LOL! I know how you feel. Her prices are good too. Shes actually become a good friend too. My bridle is totally new… I mixed the styles of several types to make one very special for me. I tend to ride draft crosses and love the draft style bridles, but I added quite a bit to westernize it. It was new to both of us and it couldnt have turned out better! Have to get a pic of it on here for you.”

– Yup, you read that right.  She went and had a custom-made bridle made with some of her blood money. The only thing that could be more disturbing or ghoulish would be if she used Montana’s hide.  Wanna see it?

 

“I kept mane and tail from my horse that had to be put down. Someday I plan to do something special with it, for now it hangs with my dream catcher in the corner of my bedroom so I can always remember him. There are a couple of girls that make neat bracelets, earrings, keychains, necklaces and other things that I am considering sending it to. Very neat, but very expensive. My mom makes a swish with horse hair from those shes lost or sold.”

– There’s the `put down’ lie again, but do you know what?  I want to make sure she never forgets what she did to that horse either.  How sad, that so many people that never met the horse cared far more than the owner that claimed to love him….

 

“For adoption at XXXXX. Black bay mini trained for cart. Driven by kids, adults, and all sorts of people new to driving. Adoption fee is $110. Used to be ridden often, currently can be used for leadline. Currently in foster with us and being used often. Contact for more information.”

– Seriously, what legitimate rescue would let this person foster horses?  No job, a gaggle of spawn, too many animals and on social assistance.  Awesome!

 

Ok, that’s a sampling of what Ms Marshall has been up to since we last checked in with her.  I’m sure her PSA buddies will be calling for my head on a platter and shrieking about what a meanie I am.  Go right ahead and make sure you tell the FBI that I’m kinda busy during the day mostly .  Who else is going to speak up for Montana and the unneccessary suffering she subjected him to so she could have herself a little spending spree?  Remember she initially told everybody that she used the money to buy a mini horse to train as a guide horse for a veteran or some such bullshit?  She was even going to name one Montana’s Legacy or something like that.  Funny, in her oversharing at her new hideout, she makes no mention of that at all…..I guess I shouldn’t be surprised she’s ginormous liar on top of being a soulless asstard.  I dream of a world where people like this are no longer in the horse industry and mandatory sterilization for asstards is acceptable.

RIP buddy, we won’t forget….

 

 

 

 

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One, two, three…..Point and Laugh!!!!

I can’t believe it’s already Friday and time for another round of pointing and laughing.  It seems we’ve hardly put our fingers away from the last round.  Of course, I’ve been otherwise engaged for most of this week, but thankfully our PSAs kept right on motoring in the asstard Olympics and came through as always.  Bless their hearts!  It’s been a rather lopsided week to recap, so let’s put on our hip waders and get on with the festivities of Point and Laugh Friday.  This week is brought to you by the letter `B’ for bullshit.

When I returned from my adventures I was worried that Slaughterhouse Sue had failed to come out from under her bridge this week.  Thankfully, this was not so as she has taken her freak show on the road to DC with Mindy Puppymill Patterson in tow.  I would pay cash money to be an invisible observer of their special brand of crazy on the loose in Washington.  Because they are so busy accosting people in the hallways, Slaughterhouse Sue only had time for this post:

“As many of you know, Mindy Patterson, Annette Sweeney, and I are working hard in D.C. Things are going good, and we are getting a good reception with the folks we are talking to. Will post more this weekend when we have had a chance to catch our breath.”

– Carefully worded?  I suspect the `folks they are talking to’ may be the security personnel and various interns and disabled people that aren’t able to run fast the other direction when they see this herd of ignorance headed their way.

 

“This survey came along just in time to help us with our message. Very interesting…particularly these couple of sentences. This is, of course, people who are actually making a living (or trying to) in the horse business. “

– I think this was a dig at us anti people.  The whole `actually making a living’ thing.  Funny, how Suey whines about her poor pappy only getting a bid of $4 on one of his fine home raised steeds.  We just sold a baby for $25,000 and that’s just an ok sale price.  Supply and demand, Suey….simple economics.

“”As in the 2009-2010 study, slaughter is one of the most discussed alternatives. Among respondents that mentioned something with regard to slaughter, over 9 times as many respondents were in favor of slaughter as those against it (for comparison, in the 2009-2010 study, about 8 times as many respondents were in favor as those against it).”

– I’m going to link this survey for you and you can decide for yourself how selective it was in gathering information.  I suppose if you did your surveying at an overnight kill buyer auction, you’d get the results you want?
http://stablemanagement.com/articles/results-from-2012-ahp-equine-industry-survey/page-4.html

 

Since Slaughterhouse Sue was on tour with Puppymill Patterson hanging out of her rectum, that meant that Douchebag Dave was left in the basement presumably working on forming complete sentences and washing her granny panties.  At any rate, he was unable to address his minions over at the UH or post on his super terrific blog.  Holy Theresa has been mostly distracted by the metaphorical shiny object of the upcoming election and is busy whipping herself into a frenzy of paranoia and promoting hatred of minorities.  Make no mistake, we are in very scary times at the moment, but our greatest enemy is ignorance and fear mongering….just sayin….

It seems that Mendy Tobiano never takes any time off facebooking and blogging.  Without me around to poke at her this week, her stories and rantings have gotten stranger and less believable if that is even possible.  First off, she informed us that the equine version of NT was the son of a Lethal White.  He would be a scientific miracle if that were the actual truth and I’m assuming one of you called her on her BS as she quickly posted up a clarification saying it was a typo.  Sure it was….just like all her other not quite right terminology and google-speak is…We were also treated to the retelling of some of her old stories about what an amazing horse whisperer she is, with a few adjustments because bullshit was called the last time she trotted out this tired crap.  Mainly the mythical work driven mustang that wins everything at shows, despite never having seen a pair of clippers in her life, and will only load in trailers with full tack on.  Huh?  I swear The Black Stallion books are far more believable than most of her anecdotes.  Mendy Tobiano also informed us that real horsemen just don’t weigh in and speak up on the slaughter issue because they are smart enough to keep their `damn mouths shut’ and not alienate one side or another.  Again, I have several hardboots in Kentucky I’d like to introduce her to that are about as `real’ as it gets and they would be more than happy to tell her where they stand on the slaughter issue and other abusive practices.  The other thing with NT this week is she has taken to cursing out her readers and then whining about why no anti-slaughter people will weigh in and offer her solutions.  I guess it’s probably like why I don’t waste a lot of time discussing philosophy with functional morons….what’s the point?  Besides, if you want to engage people and have them contribute, cursing them and calling them names isn’t how the rest of the population outside of the Ozarks go about it….

NT?

With Buckaroo Harmon busy being a fangirl and trying to sell off all her horses, it was up to other PSAs to bring the crazy for our entertainment this week.  It seems the UH page is being censored with a heavy hand and after a clusterfuck over a burned horse, some members got their noses distinctly out of joint and left the page.  One posted this farewell message which pretty much sums up the assholism that went on earlier in the week…

“As much as I have enjoyed a lot of the education I received from this group, I’m sorry to say that too many of the members are just ‘not my cup of tea’. I came home to 79 e-mail notices, some of which were downright vulgar and disgusting, all the result of people ATTEMPTING to voice their varying opinions and perspectives on a thread revolving around the issue of a burned horse. I had hoped this group would be a place for folks like me…’middle of the road, ownership-rights oriented, who want to see the return of humane slaughter to the U.S.’ Well, I can guarantee all of you that it will never happen when you can’t treat the folks on your own team with a little respect, dignity and courtesy. Thanks for welcoming me so readily. I did learn a lot. Unfortunately, most of what I have learned lately is that this group is fractured beyond repair. It’s time for me to find the folks who are serious about the issue of restoring humane slaughter as an option for American horse owners, as opposed to wasting time bickering like schoolyard bullies. I’d expect that from the ARs. Thank you to those who were so kind, and who tried to provide the rest of us who truly want to learn, with a broadened education. Best of luck in your ventures.”

Wow!  I guess they aren’t content with harassing and irritating anti-slaughter people, they are now turning on each other.  How very `Lord of the Flies’ of them!  Hopefully, Mama Suey will get on her broom and return from DC in time to do some damage control for our personal amusement.   There’s been a lot of other crazy going on with the UH, but it probably deserves its own treatment.  Hopefully, things slow down around here long enough for me to wade through some of it.

So that’s basically our shortened recap of asshattery this week.  I expect to be back up to speed next week and pull a few things off the back burner.  We have Slaughterhouse Sue and Puppymill Patterson’s triumphant return from DC to look forward to and, now that I am back, we can look forward to more hostile and paranoid rantings from NT based on whatever brain fart I happen to write about on any given day.  As always, I like to close off with good news to cleanse our mind from the PSA taint.  I’ll leave you with a picture of Buddy.  The horse that the PSAs wanted to be euthanized immediately so he could be their slaughter beats starvation poster child.  Seems to me that Buddy would definitely disagree with that line of thinking…..there is life after starvation and he’s looking better and better.  Happy Weekend!

 

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