Guess what? Just when you think you’ve seen it all or things are as bad as they can be, it’s `hold my beer’ and we sink to new depths. The further we get into it, the more I feel that beer probably isn’t strong enough to deal with this and my boots aren’t even the ones on the ground, under the bed or in the shadows. My heart hurts from all this, but we’re going to keep it going until Manson finally gets the point and comes correct. Perhaps today’s post will move a few more people into the light tip the balance. So, let’s get down to it. We have some more befores, afters and WTFs to share today. All these horses are inmates at Rancho del Grifto, but not all are owned by Manson. I guess we’ve got a birds of a feather situation to go along with the little birds that are chirping a lot lately. Ready?
I thought maybe I’d ease us all into today’s post with a softball. This is Chrome while he was still an inmate at Rancho del Grifto. We already know he made it out alive, if a little thin. Some of the village idiots claimed he lost his weight in transport, but as you can see from these photos, that clearly wasn’t the case. At one point he had open wounds with bandages that went unchanged despite Manson claiming she was changing them. I guess while we’re on the subject of untreated wounds…
Various and sundry other injuries at the ranch that went untreated by Manson. I guess this is what happens when they are bored and hungry and Manson is working her latest trick.
These are from last spring. Yet another round of strangles galloped through Manson’s herd just as it seems to every spring. It’s worth noting especially if she does come to her senses and release these hostages. Quarantine will be essential for anything coming off this ranch.
Christina Pagan boards her horses at Rancho del Grifto. Some of you may recall her for being the bully bitch at auction sometimes. More specifically, she was the private buyer liaison who would trudge around with her German Shepherd and try to intimidate people that dared to show up at auction without their permission. She’s also the person who adopted Betty the pitbull and lost her with that little incident ending up with Betty being road pizza. RIP Betty. Christina’s horses are in the same pen as Braveheart and much like their owner, a few of them are bullies. I can only imagine how much worse that situation is when they are all fighting over half rations. The lighter colored palomino is Christina’s horse, Lego (the other palomino is Braveheart). He is also losing weight. He wasn’t lame when he arrived at the ranch, but he is now. Really lame. I think its important for people to know that even if we get every last Manson horse off that place, there are still a few `privately owned’ horses being subjected to the exact same conditions.
This is the part of the post where things get really rough. This is Solar, or at least it was back in December and before. Maybe many people don’t know much about Solar because he was never really high profile or available for adoption. It’s actually a minor miracle he never ended up with a bullet in his head, but for whatever reason he was a sanctuary horse at HiCaliber and, if I had to guess, probably the longest inmate all because Manson’s son likes him. That’s the official reason anyhow.
Solar has had some ongoing abscess issue for a while from what I understand but at some point since December things started to go downhill with him fast. Depending on the day, Manson would say its because he was no longer with Shasta or he had cancer. If I had to guess, I’d say he was likely hungry as it was around about that time his grain became more miss than hit. The last known condition of Solar will break your heart.
Coming as no surprise to anybody, Solar’s condition has rapidly deteriorated. Manson can try to pawn it off on cancer or the vapors but the fact is he’s suffering from a lack of proper food and when he does get fed, he’s picking his nutrients out of a swamp. Helluva a way to treat your son’s favorite horse.
Does anybody remember Spartan? I did a post about him last year when he was the subject of one of Manson’s `training videos’. She tried to pass him off as a new HiCaliber horse which wasn’t the case. You can refresh your memories about that here, with video and intake sheets included. He is said to have some pretty severe abuse issues and takes a quiet and patient hand to handle him, so clearly not ever a horse that Manson should have been around. I believe he had recently returned from foster at the time and he looked good. The above pic is from around the same time. You know what’s coming though, right? You saw a little peak of him up above in Solar’s pics.
Here is Spartan within the last month. Yet another former HiCaliber horse slowly starving to death. At this point I don’t even know what else there is to say. This has to end.
I think that’s probably enough for this post. Sure, I could get a bit offtrack and talk about late night drug runs to Escondido involving a drive up bedroom window, but maybe we’ll do that kinda thing in a later post. I know Manson and her remaining minions read here. I know they’re freaking out (thanks little bird). Yet, Manson is still trying to have some control over the situation. It’s not going to work this time. Until every last horse is out of her clutches, and the cows and pig too if they’re even still alive (I haven’t asked yet), I will be relentless. I can’t sleep at night because of this shit. The suffering of these animals haunt me. When I am tired I’m even more bitchy than normal and I think anybody that knows me will tell you that being a bitch is a default setting for me. There are many offers of homes for these animals. The only thing preventing them from the soft landing they all deserve is Manson. There will be no money handed over to her or negotiating beyond what time can we get them picked up. Until she gets through her big fat head, we’re going to keep on spilling tea and there is at least one guest post that’s coming up if Manson doesn’t come correct on this matter. Want a little teaser about it? I don’t even know if I can handle what’s coming.
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Thank you so much for staying on her ass about this! You DON’T let animals get this bad before you let them go! She’s burned all her bridges, and nobody wants to help her just to be the victim thrown under the bus. Her handful of supporters can deflect all they want, pictures don’t lie. She’s been struggling to care for herself, it’s time to swallow some pride and let these horses go. She’s just not able to care for them anymore… end of story!
She’s turned into the very thing she used to claim to fight.
I’m willing to bet with my 30% vet experience that Solar’s hooves are have a serious case of Canker, and they need immediate vet and farrier interventions to save that horses life. Not only is he dropping weight from not being fed, he’s most likely in total agony. I went through it with a rescued draft, and it was not fun to deal with, and you never forget what it looks like or that smell.
I wonder if animal control saw this? Because if they did, and there was no proof of vet and farrier care being administered, then they are NOT doing their jobs. Since your posts clearly show there is no vet or farrier care, anything she presented would be faked, which seems like an additional reason to pull the animals in her (lack of) care?
That was my first reaction as well.
Strangles again? WTF?
I couldn’t watch the video of Solar lying down. Poor guy… I hope he moved to Aaron’s place. I don’t understand how a person could go out on a wellness check and find nothing wrong.
Heartbreaking seeing him like that. He was in so much pain.
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This is both heartbreaking and infuriating. Michelle, #releasethehostages.
The authorities need to get in there and get those horses out!!
This is such a tragedy. I am sick to my stomach.
How can anyone close to this let these horses continue to suffer?
I know I have called and emailed all available agencies in the area that handle large animals. Each one has said they can do nothing. To which I call BULLSHIT. She has frenimies in those places that I would bet she’s holding blackmail goods on.
I showed this blog to a friend who works in AC here in Northern CA and they went ballistic over these photos. Hopefully my friend can in some capacity reach out to their colleagues in AC in San Diego County and get this resolved. But please don’t hold your breath about that either… sigh.
I think if they get enough bad press or pressure they are going to have to make a statement and do something. If one of these horses pictured, drops dead, it’s on their heads. They have been made more than aware of an ongoing problem and deteriorating situation and have chosen to do nothing. These animals cannot speak or help themselves. They are about as vulnerable as it gets. I, for one, will not shut up until something is done.
I won’t be quiet…period… that is why I shared with my friend…. who is fucking pissed.
I think it needs to go viral to the media…. make this Michelle’s worst fucking nightmare ever.
Make this San Diego AC’s worst publicity ever.
I’m no longer local so don’t have the contacts down there any more.
That is exactly what it takes in our neck of the woods to get AC to respond to horse neglect. They don’t want the expense so they avoid involvement. In spite of more than one rescue offering to step up and care for any seized animals.
A local gal created a Facebook page the last time this came up and it took off like wildfire. Taxpayers pay animal control to enforce animal welfare laws. They justifiably get pretty fired up when they get that very common, bs excuse that ‘they can’t do anything’. It will work best if someone local who has photos and awareness of the situation initiates the page. Once it gets going a link is sent to ac so they know the full fury of the masses.
Once the page was going and ac’s phone number published with the awful photos, they received a deluge of phone call and media inquiries. That is what got to them.
Was the page name and content pretty pragmatic and to the point?
Very much so. And as I mentioned above, I think the page admin ran a tight ship. People were allowed to question how this could happen, express how terrible it was and vent to a large degree. But they stayed the path: do what you CAN do: call and write animal control as often as you like, be specific, to the point, ask for them to act and do all of it without anger or threats. I didn’t see any low lifes trying to redeem their butts. I suspect they were removed or knew they would be eaten alive.
That’s likely what it will take again and I support that as long as people stick to the facts and refrain from making threats. It seems that these issues tend to bring all sorts of weirdness to the table including people who see it as a chance of redemption for themselves.
The recent page was interesting in that there were many outraged folks but no weirdness that I saw. Possibly the admin was on top of that sort of thing. The page was very focused and stuck to encouraging people to respond and updating them on progress. There was real progress in that all of the horses were seized and none returned to the sob. A miracle in this area.
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You always think you can’t be shocked more, and then you see this post. No animal deserves to be treated this way, ever. It’s appalling, disgusting, and heartbreaking.
I don’t understand how none of the animal enforcement agencies can go and see this type of suffering and literally do nothing. Why bother having tax dollars go to the expenditure of their salaries?! What’s the fucking point?
There’s a part of me that wonders if she’s so freaking mentally ill that maybe she truly doesn’t see the decline to all these animals? You know that hoarder mentality where they have this compulsion to *save* them, but get so far in over their heads they’re incapable of seeing the reality? I don’t understand how someone could willfully treat an animal this way.
Or is it that she got so used to the bucks that rolled in almost effortlessly while scamming people for Hicalibur that she was so stuck up her own ass when she moved that she thought the donations would continually flow in, and now that they’re not it really is an oxygen mask on manson first situation?
There is a huge non profit animal org on LI, NY. Largest no kill shelter in the world. I don’t know if they handle large animal rescues or if its just dogs and cats, definitely worth looking into.
I’m so sick over those pictures 😦
The horses were only ever a means to money. She’s not mentally ill. Oxygen on her first, remember.
I know you’re right, I just have such a hard time believing someone can treat animals that way. It’s so disgusting and twisted. She’s such a pos!
How recently has AC been out there? How was any of this over looked? Has anyone gotten calls back from AC in the last few days? There’s certainly been enough calls to warrant them going out. “No food and little water” in my neck of the woods would have AC out the next day making sure there was visible food and full waters. California sure is lax.
post @Horror that Officer Gove went within the last week or so(?)…she did nothing. She noted no food & also “couldn’t see” the second water tub…perhaps she didn’t even get out of her truck.
She may be friends w/ M, another poster said Gove helped M at one point collect some “bad backyard” horses. Another Officer needs to go check for sure, as does a veterinarian.
I think they were out last week
There was a comment on FB that stated they were out on 2/28 and all the animals looked fine. Bullshit.
I need some clarity on that because that is for sure not exactly what I was told went down.
This makes me sick to my stomach. She needs to let these suffering animals go. Now. Into homes that will provide proper care and relief.
She must have no soul and a black shriveled selfish heart to let this go on. What is her end game? They bring her no profit and clearly they bring her no joy.
Anyone in her circle that isn’t reporting all they know to the authorities to try to get these horses help is complicit. For those in her circle that are speaking up for the horses…thank you.
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This makes me so angry. WTF Manson? Let them go!!!
As days go by and AC continues to turn a blind eye, these horses will continue to decline. What will Manson do with Solar’s remains? She certainly doesn’t have funds for disposal costs, yet there he is laying on the ground suffering.
I want to be angry with Manson, but I think my anger is pointed towards the authorities who have done nothing and the ass barnacles that continue to enable her.
It isn’t like the authorities needed to build a case, we certainly handed them enough leads and evidence to work with.
I don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist but the whole thing is off. It’s been years since she’s been employed by the AC and the speculation that they are afraid of her litigious ass doesn’t make sense either. They blew her suit for disability right out of the water with the Dr. assessment of histrionic personality disorder and no permanent brain injury.
Something stinks and it’s not just Rancho del Grifto’s mess.
That property is destroyed. The horses are not thriving and clearly losing weight…. The winter coats are hiding a lot. I have never, even at a boarding stable, seen so much strangles in one place. It’s appalling. I get it rains and there is mud…. But the fences, the lack of food, the hooves, I’m assuming teeth….. When was the last time any of these guys got brushed or wormed?? And why the fawk would you want to board your horse here (Jon and Christina)?!?! I get the few that help the horses do it FOR the horses but STOP. You’re part of the problem, enabling.
Barry Boi – oh no!
No animal should ever have to suffer the way these animals are being made to suffer. The fact that she exploited these animals to bring them home and give them absolutely no care is just horrific. I will take solar that poor guy has never seen a soft landing
It sounds to me from the screenshots that Solar could go live with Manson’s son but she is trying to hide the neglect.
Can she not connect the dots? Does she really think anything is hidden?
WTF did she do to Barry Boi?
I guess we’re going to find out in an upcoming post
Not sure I want to know😪
I think Barry Boi’s post is going to break me. Pics of him in so much pain at the interim place, that he had to lie down all the time ripped me to shreds, or the limping up the hill when she moved all the poor horses off the ranch once they were evicted. Sweet old man 😦 She seems to be more concerned about optics rather than the health of the animals she has when she’s talking about getting Solar in better shape to move to Aarons without a public outcry, or the other option being euthanasia… Grrrr! Release the damn animals!
I’m trying to figure out these names– who is Aaron?
Her ex husband
Ooooo. Gotcha.
My other question is… has anyone contacted local law enforcement? Usually it takes THEM going first to see neglect and document with a report and then they can contact animal control from there. Reference Calif PC 597(b):
597(b) Except as otherwise provided in subdivision (a) or (c), every person who overdrives, overloads, drives when overloaded, overworks, tortures, torments, deprives of necessary sustenance, drink, or shelter, cruelly beats, mutilates, or cruelly kills any animal, or causes or procures any animal to be so overdriven, overloaded, driven when overloaded, overworked, tortured, tormented, deprived of necessary sustenance, drink, shelter, or to be cruelly beaten, mutilated, or cruelly killed; and whoever, having the charge or custody of any animal, either as owner or otherwise, subjects any animal to needless suffering, or inflicts unnecessary cruelty upon the animal, or in any manner abuses any animal, or fails to provide the animal with proper food, drink, or shelter or protection from the weather, or who drives, rides, or otherwise uses the animal when unfit for labor, is, for each offense, guilty of a crime punishable pursuant to subdivision (d).
Well Shed, you said it would only get worse. And while I hoped in some sad way you were wrong, you weren’t. My heart breaks for Solar. He was a good boy. He deserved so much more. He DOES deserve so much more. I hope he goes to Aaron’s. At least here he stands a chance. Speaking of chance, do you happen to know what happened to Fire who was one of the “sanctuary” horses as well? People hated him but I liked him. He always loved playing with the water when filling the troughs in Rivers Run.
Before and after photos of Braveheart, Rizzo, Shasta, Solar, and Spartan are all in the comments of the pinned post in Horror. Feel free to use.
Thank you!
(post updated w/ corrected SDAS email)
SDAS (SD Dept.Animal Services)
(619) 236-2341
dasinfo@sdcounty.ca.gov
SDHS (SD Humane Society)
(619) 299-7012
investigations@sdhumane.org
San Diego District Attorney
(619) 531-4040
SanDiegoDA@sdcda.org
*ask your call/email to be forwarded to Deputy District Atty Karra Reedy…she’s in charge of DA’s Animal Cruelty Prosecution Unit
Thank you!
Waiting to see what scum come out of the woodwork to defend this/her?
I blocked the last one. I’m not fuckin around with this anymore
WTF! She needs some serious mental help. Bring back the looney bins we’ve got the perfect candidate. Those poor horses suffering like that because why? Get the fuck over yourself Manson and release the hostages.
You know who I blame for this whole mess? Adrianne Beazley. This could have all been over with over a year ago if it wasn’t for her. How anyone could see the death and destruction Kuntzilla did to anothers home, the death and destruction she did to those animals, then turn around and further enable her with another place? Who is truly the sick one here? She must be feeling the heat as her facebook page has poofed for time being. Adrianne, Kuntzilla, Ingrid and all of the remaining enablers would all share a cell together if I were Queen.
Beazley is a special kind of stupid. A grid is criminally evil
^^^ THIS.
If you have an address I’m happy to call AC continuously until they do something! This is bullshit and she must be stopped! I’m just sick over this. Thanks for all you do to fight for these horses! Mj
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34139 Hampton Road, Pauma Valley CA 92061
Thanks again Shed for getting the word out there.
I don’t know if I can handle much more of this.
Please M, release the hostages!!!!!
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contact info:
SDAS (SD Dept.Animal Services)
(619) 236-2341
info@sdcounty.ca.gov
SDHS (SD Humane Society)
(619) 299-7012
investigations@sdhumane.org
San Diego District Attorney
(619) 531-4040
SanDiegoDA@sdcda.org
*ask your call/email to be forwarded to Deputy District Atty Karra Reedy…she’s in charge of DA’s Animal Cruelty Prosecution Unit
(before/after horse pics avail on HC/AM Horror FB page, in comments of pinned post)
correction:
SDAS (SD Dept.Animal Services) email is
dasinfo@sdcounty.ca.gov
Is Rancho del Grifto in the San Diego Sheriff’s jurisdiction? It may be time to give up on Animal Services and let the sheriff take over as a criminal matter. This is beyond a “bad backyard”. It is more like a torture chamber.
Whatever it takes.
Agreed
Yes, I agree. Law enforcement needs to be called.
The branch that handles Pauma is in Valley Center.
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I’d send those pictures to a tv station or newspaper. Maybe get some heat on her that way.
Send away! The more the merrier. They can email me if they need details or have questions. I will not give up the moles until they decide it’s time to step forward but I will act as a go between if they want.
Let’s do talk about the late night drug runs and the drive up bedroom window, because maybe THAT is what will get some badged asses in gear and put her behind bars and free those hostages above all else. Maybe manson needs to #LWYRUP
I agree as long as these issues can be confirmed and are not just alleged.
Oh I check the sources. Manson is sweating because she has no clue who is leaking but she knows the people left all hold smoking guns on her. I really can’t understand why she doesn’t make all this stop at this point
Then let’s go for it. To answer your question, yes. I’ve had enough. These animals need care.
You got that right…just release all the animals and I am good
Let’s see what info Shed’s got.
I also wonder, Shed, if you have any of the freak out texts/stories manson’s doing over the opening of these worm cans. Can you share? As a mental health break for us?
by sharing those texts, it may put the mole(s) on Michelle’s radar
I’m releasing almost everything as it comes in with a few exceptions. This is chess at this point. We’re giving Manson a chance to do the right thing and make this stop, but the longer she drags her feet, the more that will be released. Like I said, her innermost circle has crumbled. Ever dirty secret she has, horse related or could hit the blog depending on her actions and she still has no clue where the leaks are or how many.
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Ok I am beyond frustrated!
Spoke at length with the AC officer who visited the property on the 28th.She maintains she saw no thin,sick or lame animals.
She gave me code enforcement phone number regarding the number of animals that are on the property.
She would love to do more ,but what is really required is actual physical witnesses with TIME STAMPED CURRENT photos and videos to come forward and complain!Nothing else will matter.
She said food does not even have to be physically on the property.That they only go by UC Davis standard of care and the body score system from them.
So Any Physical witnesses willing to come forward?
The blog is great but all of this needs to be sent to AC !
It appears they don’t really know how to body score a horse. It’s not that fucking hard! Unbelievable.
I question whether they saw all the horses. Manson has been known to stash horses at Richie Price’s and I believe Jacquie Leonard’s place among others. Manson is also not above lying and saying she recently rescued from a bad backyard or something.
Working on it.
Huh… That’s frustrating for sure. Did you ever find out what Officer Gove’s head count was. I’ve just looked over the UC Davis Standard of Care and although it has a little wiggle room it’s pretty clear what is and is not acceptable on the checklists provided in the PDF.
https://ceh.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/health-topics/equine-welfare
Working with the public isn’t always easy but I question the lack of motivation. It’s easy to say the appropriate words that absolve an individual or government entity from action. They know something is going on and I think legally they could do random welfare checks as needed. I just read an article that Humane Societies are empowered to make arrests. Is Animal Control completely ineffectual?
I think this whole thing stinks. I don’t subscribe to the stories that Manson has dirt on everyone. I certainly think a government agency has more than enough legal power and isn’t afraid of potential law suits. Maybe they’re afraid of eating crow if the media got wind that one of their former employees is a crooked, negligent, abusive piece of shit and they’ve let it go on for years.
comment @ Horror, AC told her “we visited the property on 2/28. It has 5 acres. There are 19 horses, 1 burro, 1 hog, 2 cows, 2 dogs and 6 cats…” (animals look fine blah blah)
address is listed at 4 acres not 5….so if this info they told her is true, there’s 22 large equine/cows on less than 4 acres. Why is AC asking this woman to call code enforcement, why doesn’t AC report that themselves? Good grief.
I don’t understand at all. I’ve heard a couple different rumors about why but neithe hold water in my opinion.
I ended up seeing the clip of Solar and it was terrible. He dropped a lot of weight. A seriously ridiculous amount in two months.
poor Solar looks miserable, his pics remind me of Squirrel
So sad… So the AC didn’t see this? Maybe he was up but how do you not see he’s too skinny? Now they want people who have first-hand experiences to step forward… I don’t know how they get anything done without being handheld.
they really do 😦
and with his obvious injured foot, living in that muddy swamp w/ broken fences everywhere….why doesn’t AC ask M to produce vet receipt? Or give her 24 hours to prove vet care or else he gets seized?
I forgot to mention that Rizzo was also the horse that was featured in one of her `training’videos last year that she speed bagged him in the chops a few times. I believe Horror has a gif of that. Manson shouldn’t be aloud around any sentient being.
Officer Gove states 19 horses 1 donkey 1 hog 2 cows 2 dogs 6 cats
She was there 2/28/2020 claimed all animals were bright and alert with water though no food in site.They were in Adequate to good condition.
Said without current photos video and eye witness proof not a damn thing she can do.Said she has horses herself.
I was aghast!
Referred me to county code enforcement which was also a dead end.To my utter horror she can have 10 horses per acre and up to 8 cows and pigs on that land!
Even if those pictures were 2 months old, I doubt they could have packed enough weight on the be in “adequate” condition. Not with what Manson’s volunteer’s have to work with.
Unbridled Spirits TB Retirement have posts on Facebook about Chrome that are dated Monday March 2: They measured him at almost 17 hands. 1130 lbs is pretty lean for that size of a horse.
Mucho Chrome, am : 4lbs of Purina Ultium Gastric
2 lbs of SOAKED alfalfa
1 lb of Triple Crown stress free forage
1 scoop Sand Clear
Started at 2lbs Gastric per day last week – Slowly bringing him up in weight.
Last week he weighed 1,130 lbs.
today: 1,150!
Unlimited HAY.
Curious why he’s on soaked alfalfa? And SUPER curious how his dentals are since she just grifted for that a FEW times. LOL
What really blows my mind is that Michelle had everything, the house, the MONEY, the lifestyle(she was a rock star in her own mind), and the adoring fans- if you will.
She lost most of it but still had that ONE person that believed in her, had more money than sense, bought her a house. I REALLY thought she’d ride this one out and hold close to the meal ticket=horses/crazy house buying lady. While building back up her crazy ‘fan’ base and move smartly along while laughing all the way to the bank. It wasn’t hard to do, her ‘followers’ believed all she threw at them, they threw money at her hand over fist. The more she acknowledged them on the FB page, the more they gave. She had a SWEET deal! She blew it.
Because she blew that chance I thought for sure she’d embrace the remaining horses and work it for all it was worth.
I guess I was wrong. The horses will suffer, and continue to suffer. I do believe that there may be no stopping her, sadly.
She really did have it made… but she got stupid, lazy and greedy. People were practically begging, for a while anyway, to volunteer there. To clean up after the horses, treat their wounds, PAY for them and their care. But Michelle, instead of just paying herself a legal salary, she got greedy and foolishly thought she would never be caught. She treated the volunteers like shit as well. They were beneath her when she should have been praising them she was belittling them and her supporters. She, and her crew, treated donated items like shit except if it was an item one of them personally wanted. She treated that property like shit as well. She teamed up with the kill buyers and that was the beginning of the end for a lot of her followers and volunteers. Being shady ain’t easy… it’s more work than being honest and upfront.
The thing is, nobody would have even cared or looked that closely if she wasn’t killing horses off at an alarming rate, hoarding and playing vet. She literally had the makings of an empire and she alone blew it. Nobody made her rob from the animals to fund her `rockstar’ lifestyle. Nobody made her go on drug runs and make poor choices. I’ll forgive a lot and look the other way as long as animals are well cared for. That was all I ever cared about. All the rest of it has only been a means to an end. If she got rid of all the animals in her possession and stayed gone, she’d never hear from me again. I don’t give a shit who she shakes down or rolls as long as she’s leaving animals alone. Karma will deal with her in her own time.
If the animals got safe then as far as I’m concerned… she could just “POOF” into thin air. That’s all I ever cared about. Karma is an absolute bitch when you have a black soul like like Michelle.
Is Solar still alive?
I think so?
Oh good! He just looks so bad – so afraid of him not making it out in time.
It’s sad that I could get in more trouble if I went there and just liberated all the horses than she is.
Does anyone have a truck and trailer large enough to hold about 24 or so horses and some cows and piggies? –asking for a friend.
Well, I wouldn’t advise doing anything illegal. It’s up to the agencies to just do their fucking jobs.
I understand where sregneve is coming from but cooler heads must prevail over wounded hearts and souls
I agree. that kind of talk isn’t productive. I’m really over the drama of the situation. Just want it done and over with through the proper channels.
AMEN!
As much as it is tempting, livestock theft (even if you think it is justifiable) is a felony in most jurisdictions. Is serving a term in a State prison worth it? truly?
No she is the one who should be serving prison time, for fraud and abuse. Just hoping one day soon she gets it. I was hoping all of this might make her give up her animals.
This is so hard to deal with, seeing this obvious suffering and the authorities do nothing. If one of those poor horses dies, will that trigger action? I just don’t understand at all.
I can’t imagine what will motivate these guys to do the right thing. Everything I’ve seen them do in the last few years is only enough to cover their collective asses. When people with current pictures and first hand experiences came forward in the past it was different reason they couldn’t do anything. Like the rescues often get skinny horses to rehab or it’s legal to euthanize a horse by gunshot… Both are true, yet there is a certain criteria for those situations that Manson never met. Now that she is no longer a rescue and she is under investigation they are still giving her a pass.
Just because she’s not a rescue any longer, doesn’t mean Manson isn’t telling the same lies.
I’m sure she’s telling them lots of things but these guys are supposed to be trained to tell the difference aren’t they?
You’d think, but again, most of these agencies don’t want to mess with large animals. They are expensive to house and rehabilitate and many of their ACOs don’t know what they’re are even looking at. Unless Gove got her ass out of the vehicle and put hands on each and ever animal on that property, then she didn’t do her job. Period.
If Gove put a body score on those horses, she must have put her hands on everyone of them …. that’s the only acceptable way to body score… anything else is amateurish at best and unacceptable
Exactly.
She is going to watch those horses die – starving. Really?