Why is it every time I wrap up our week with an edition of Point and Laugh Friday, the PSAs ramp up the stupid for the next 48 hrs? At some point you would think it wasn’t even possible to get any more stupid or misinformed, but we haven’t even come close to it yet. So, we are about to rehash a few tired arguments for the millionth time because we can and because I’m irritated again. Apologies in advance and I suggest you wear protective head-gear for this blog; whether that be a tinfoil beanie, helmet or both.
Ok, it seems my Point and Laugh Friday hit a few nerves behind close doors and panties are not only in a bunch, they are chafing some butts in a big way. In an effort to make me stop pointing out the idiocy, the PSAs are going to attempt business as usual, which means that they are going to pontificate about slaughter. Yay! I love it when they remove all doubt as to how ignorant they all are. So let’s kick things off with the petulant pony, Mendy Tobiano hefting herself up on the podium to edumacate us all….
“Three years later we are still bitching about the issues in this article.
Will this ever end? Horses are livestock. As long as that’s the legal definition, slaughter of them is no different than a cow or hog. Now why is it the USDA cannot seem to get off their asses and send the inspectors in for the horses. Gosh, election years suck don’t they”
– This is what happens when you have tunnel vision and are completely ignorant to how things work. While horses may be considered to be `livestock’ by many and for legal terms, they are considered to be companion animals by the FDA. That means that horses are not raised for food consumption like a cow or hog. Stomp your feet all you want, that’s just they way it is right now. Also, as has been discussed in numerous media forums, the USDA had their budget cut by $9 million this year. To fund inspections for horses, which are not raised for human consumption and the majority of the population oppose, that would mean it would come at the expense of inspecting hogs, cattle or poultry. Since horses are also not considered to be a staple in the American diet as the other animals are, you are asking them to redirect funding that comes directly from the US taxpayer for inspections on something that will largely be for overseas consumption and profit. As Slaughterhouse Sue likes to say; It’s simple economics. Now, you can factor in the Moran Amendment that is on the table that would effectively wipe out slaughter again and NOBODY is going to put USDA inspectors in horse slaughter facilities until that is resolved. Get over it.
” Not only do they need to get up and get the slaughter houses going, they need to get the withdrawl times set for bute and other drugs which they are refusing to do because of the politics involved in horse slaughter. I would be willing to donate $ when I have it to gety this done!”
– This little gem comes from Montana’s former owner. She wants to donate money to get slaughter happening! Awesome! I wonder if that’s the best use of her welfare checks? Given how evil and stupid we know her to be, it’s not surprising she is still trying to make `Bute’ happen. It’s never going to.
“I agree that testing for withdrawal periods on meat products from horses known to have been buted needs to be done. The only thing we have is the results of sick people who were TREATED with bute not those who ate it…..There is a hugomongo difference between direct ingestion of something and eating something that had the substance given to it.”
– Maybe ole NT would like to step up and be the guinea pig for this testing? Or maybe she can volunteer some of her family? I guess the concept of second-hand smoke is over her flat head too?
“The funny thing is people actually use bute themselves. All medications have adverse effects, sometimes it bothers one person and not another. All medications have withdrawls. They need to get it done!”
– Yes and people also smoke meth and don’t die right away either, but that doesn’t mean it’s advisable to do it yourself. But this is coming from Montana’s Mommy again so we shouldn’t be surprised about the level of ignorance. Maybe she’ll sell some of her kids for those kinds of lab experiments when they age out of the WIC program and do her bit to make slaughter happen so those mini horses she adopted have a place to go when she inevitably screws them up.
“Yep—I had a friend who died from an aspirin allergy. But we don’t pull aspirin off the market…….I wonder if anyone would like to do some research for me on drugs that COMMONLY kill people or have horrendous side effects (like the Cialis mythical 4 hour erection) but are still on the market. Like kids who die from benadryl”
– Actually I think `somebody’s’ time would be better spent teaching NT to read with comprehension. Then maybe she can learn the difference between side effects and carcinogens. Maybe she can also learn the difference between testing for a performance level threshold and tissue residue. Or maybe we can just not bother and let keep handing her more rope to hang herself with because as annoying as this gets, it’s pretty damn funny too.
“Vets can give cattle bute extra label and there IS a withdrawal time for MEAT ( not milk) there cant be very much difference in elimination time for cattle vs. horses. However, I have tried to get info. from the USDA and FDA-both are extremely aggravating as they give run-around conversation and avoid straight answers, saying it is a very controversial subject.”
– No it is not approved for use in food producing animals. Period. No elimination time because it is BANNED. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp for these asstards? Seriously. It’s just not that hard. BANNED means BANNED.
(http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vetext/INF-DA/ButeProhib.pdf)
“this is somethin most people don’t know , thier hasn’t been any complaints on horse meat since the early to mid 80’s , and happend twice is all , and the deal on the drug issue is that when kill the horses , every part is stamped , like the lungs , heart , liver , kidneys , these are hung racks , and checked in a time period in case thier is a type of drug that shows up , if so the meat was tanked , and not sold for human’s , at least that is how it used to be , and that is somethin that the anti’s don’t want anbody to know or they didn’t know that , that is what they did at Beltex”
– No asstard, not every carcass is tested. Yes, they are identified, but the testing is random to a degree. The on site CFIA or USDA inspector is supposed to identify likely candidates to test ie. horses with noticeable lameness, illness or anything that may suggest they had been medicated, but we all know that’s very hit and miss at best. Back when Beltex was operating they were only testing for Trichinosis. Canada has only been testing for banned meds for less than two years, so it’s pretty safe to say the US slaughter houses never tested for that stuff.
Given how profoundly stupid these people are, is it any wonder the USDA and FDA have made it so difficult for them to get through on the phone? I suggest that both agencies hire very cranky people (No, not me because I already have a job) to answer these calls. I probably shouldn’t even say anything and let these idiots continue to make fools of themselves as they charge around on their own being nuisances and never being taken seriously. How can you take somebody seriously that either cannot or will not grasp a simple concept like `Banned’? Now we have NT saying that maybe it’s banned for humans to use, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to eat something that has taken it. If this were true, I guess the whole contaminating the ground water with euthanized horses thing shouldn’t worry them either or killing rats with poison shouldn’t harm an animal that eats the rat? It seems there is nothing else to say, so I’m going to leave y’all with a little limerick that NT wrote. It pretty much says it all…
There once was a man who ate horse
His own mount for steak was his source
He did bute his pony
Since tainted meat is phony
And his liver is just fine, of course!
Last minute edit here: Looks like we have yet another horse carcass showing up in the food supply with Bute in it…Oops.
i have never seen a group of people so stupid in my life. its really not funny any more. its pathetic.
i would love to hear the calls to the fda “wait, youre an unemployed broodmare, and you are an unemployed blogger? how could we not take your opinion on this matter seriously. silly us, we have been basing our decisions on the opinions of toxicologists, medical doctors and veterinarians…people who actually have an education, have tested and studied these substances. we should have just asked you what you *thought* about the topic…”
sorry. i still prefer the safety of my food to be based on science and medicine – not what some yahoo that cant seem to find employment outside of popping out kids for a government check or some uneducated, self important moron who flirts with herself and seems to be desperate to live a life of public drama that would make the guests of jerry springer envious.
I just snorted my sweet tea! LMAO
i dont trust anyone who cant operate a condom.
Sure glad SOSER keeps letting her adopt and foster for them. Just disgusting.
Don’t DO that to me! Been off the computer for over a week after jerking my already-good-for-nothing back, and here you make me almost do it again.
Seriously, I needed a good laugh! 🙂
I’m glad you were able to decipher that last comment Shedrow, because I dun broke ma sekret dekodur ring!
LOL
Sweet Cheezus! Dr. Kim is even as stupid as the rest of them…
“If they can test race and show horses in 48 hrs, they can test slaughter horses”
as i have said before, the person who graduates bottom of their class in vet school is still called dr…..
I’m just thankful she is not local to me and the only vet around. Scary to think somebody this stupid is treating animals.
is she licensed and practicing?
I believe she is….
hmmm…maybe they should present their collective wisdom to the EU?
Laugh all you want, but the government still supports these idiots.
They still control the dump arena called auctions, private sales, etc.
We will win eventually, but the killers and dumpers (and STOOOPIDS) still hold the killing grounds. The problem is the consumers. They are getting smarter in the EU, but 3d world countries are soon to be dumping grounds. The US meat will soon go to Asia.
Funny thing…these idiots are pushing unqualified meat (equines) for humans and still have not secured confidence in exported US beef (bovine), pork or poultry. Not sure asshats?…check out foreign country exclusions and/or bans on US exported meat products.
I’d say dumber than a box of rocks, but it appears rocks serve more of a purpose.
I read that Japan prefers their horses shipped live, so that’s a stumbling block for mass shipments. Also, when North American horse meat gets banned out of the EU for being unsafe for human consumption, I’m not sure that Asian countries are going to be buying it all up adn taking the risk. Those aren’t stupid people either. EU bans certain drugs for a reason. Dumping tainted meat in poor or third world countries likely wouldn’t even be allowed and who is going to pay for it? It’s time they just shut up about slaughter and got out of the way of people trying to implement workable solutions for equine welfare.
Dumping unsafe or contaminated products happens every day in the “world” economy; not to mention contaminated waste, by products and substandard in nation rejected products.
Korea has a problem with US bovine flesh, but imports Canadian and Mexican horseflesh…which, btw is categorized by our excellent US marketing machine called the US Meat Export Federation as “Beef Varities”. WTF? is a “beef variety”? Japan does too. I don’t think they are stupid people either.
Crapitalism (profit at all cost) and international trade agreements give them the resources to do it and if you check out their tax returns, I’m sure you will find tax breaks for doing same.
This totally gave me the mental image of the Seinfeld episode where they try to donate all the muffin bottoms to the homeless and all hell breaks loose…
i am not sure that *this* brand of stupid is being listened to. i think these guys are considered “useful idiots” by the proslaughter side – if they are considered at all. money has more to do with the politicians supporting slaughter than anything.
bute is still banned. the eu is tightening their regulations, the usda budget is still significantly cut and there is yet to be a plant to be inspected – though a lot of that has to do with the ineptitude of sue wallis and her gang of miscreants.
do we still have a fight ahead – most definitely . this is a marathon, not a sprint. we cant loose focus or drive.
the clowns who are profiled here – by and large- are entertaining at most. if they werent such an amazing example of theater of the absurd, they would best be ignored. if they didnt have the forum of facebook, they would be nameless, ignorant creatures stirring up shit in their home ponds, but lucky us, facebook gives them a place to clamor for attention. it also allows a ray of sunlight in to show just how ignorant they.are. the more they dance around for attention and the more that people *pay* attention, the more pathetic they reveal themselves to be.
Absolutely..! I am convinced of the fact that these assturds are non players in the horse slaughter industry. They are more like the very reason, they claim, the USA needs slaughter. They supply the horses to a large degree. They overbreed, abuse and neglect. They are mindless idiots.. More like the joker to the King, so to speak. I have found they make no difference to our advocacy, in anyway whatsoever..It even amazes me at their lack of horse knowledge. Anyone worth their salt, as a horsemen, knows that horses and cattle are two seperate species, for one cows are ruminates, horses are not. They have two totally different ways to digest foods, and process chemicals fro from food. Horse digestion, believe it or not, works similiar to a rabbits digestion, and we all know how sensitive rabbits are to chemicals as well..Still, bute is banned from all human consumption meat. Now which part do these Kings jokers not understand? Is it the a before the n or the d after the e in “The banned”?
Well said, Jennifer, well said!
China has become upset about all the food-born illnesses they are having and have said they plan to start following EU food safety regulations.
I personally think that when the shit really hits the fan and all the dust settles, there won’t be enough of a market for our horses to make it all worthwhile. There are those who are diligently working on educating the “market,” They don’t get a lot of press here, but they are there, never fear.
Perhaps they have to take a test before joining United Horsemen, sort of like Mensa but the opposite, instead of having a high IQ, one must have an IQ below a certain level. Your IQ must fall into the stupidity category.
LOL Jo-Claire, I think you are onto something here!
LOL!
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Cry for the poor horses at the mercy of these blood thirsty idiots or laugh at everyone’s comments. Hopefully, the horse eater’s own stupidity will be the death of their vile cult.
I really am beginning to fall in love with you Shedrow. 😉
Their entire platform [if you can call it that] is propaganda. I saw the post from the guy re: no complaints on horse meat since the mid 80s. What he failed to mention is that they didn’t test properly for bute so of course, the results were negative. That’s how Sue is trying to get around food safety laws. Not only do her “equine scientists” not have the skills required to determine human health but the blood test they are recommending will never detect bute unless the horse has had a massive amount within a few days before testing.
The longer this goes on, the more evident it is that this has nothing to do with the horse industry. We knew that because the horse industry doesn’t produce meat. What Sue is asking for is another government welfare program for meat producers [the hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars for welfare ranchers on public lands isn’t enough]. The cost to taxpayers goes far beyond the $5M needed for inspections. There is wastewater clean-up, litigation [the plants will challenge every fine in court], law enforcement, a national passport system and let’s not forget the millions that are needed to fix the non-existent transport program and the cost for fire department and local agencies for trailer accidents.
Valerie James-Patton has been researching the program for months. The big clue that it was screwed up was the mention in the infamous GAO report. I’m sure that was added to give the appearance that the report wasn’t biased not realizing the can of worms it would open. Valerie started digging and found several government reports on just how broken it was. The OIG report is an eye-opener. There is no USDA/APHIS oversight – the KBs run the entire program including determining if a horse is eligible for slaughter and slapping the USDA stickers on the slaughter horses. This has always been the case and not something that occurred after the US plants closed. It’s hard to catch because if you don’t read carefully, you don’t realize that every time they use shipper/hauler they are referring to the KB.
So add all those millions up and you will have the true cost of what horse slaughter on US soil will cost all taxpayers, not just horse owners. So next time they say that only horse owners can have an opinion on horse slaughter, let them know you have every right to speak up on how your tax dollars will be spent.
I have a great sense of humor but I don’t find any of this funny at all…from either end. We should be angry and pushing hard, not having a light-hearted, hahaha, aren’t these guys pathetic. It’s just as pathetic to laugh at them. This is a serious situation. Making light of horse slaughter advocates makes them seem as if they are just idiots when in fact they are murderers and evil.
I understand what you are trying to say.
However, I can multitask by pointing a finger and seriously working to end HCHS.
All work and no play makes a dull life.
I find this blog hilarious and informative. I think it comes from saying the same thing over and over and hearing the same ridiculous beliefs from the psa’s over and over and over. We are making light of the pro slaughter advocates ridiculousness, not slaughter. At least, that’s what I’m attempting to do. We are pushing hard, but laughter is very important. It’s good for one’s health. I’d rather laugh than cry. (They are idiots, though, which is what makes them so dangerous.)
Joe, if those of us who have been fighting this fight for decades didn’t have some humor tossed in, we would literally lost our minds. Sometimes I think I’ve lost mine anyway.
Yep. These PSAs are inconsequential. Time to out the real evil- Charlie Stenholm and the politicians bought with big Ag dollars. Slippery slope my patoot.
I am relatively New to the horse Slaughter issue..even though I have been riding, working and playing with horses since the age of 9 (many..many decades) I never was exposed to it..I was fortunate to grow up in a very old and established horse community in the south east. Horses were well cared for and loved and I never saw any neglect or abuse. I worked mostly with hunter/jumpers and polo ponies..My parents house was across the street from the oldest continuously running Polo field in the US and it had a dirt track around it for training the baby racehorses. The roads in my neighborhood were dirt/clay so the track horses/polo ponies/pleasure riders could cool out after working out. We even had/have traffic lights at horse height so you could cross the major roads without dismounting..Racehorses were/are a huge part of the culture of the town I grew up in but horse slaughter was never discussed. I am certain, now, that it went on..but behind the scenes. The first time I heard of it..I think from a re-post on FB from a friend..I gasped in disbelief and I knew in my soul it was wrong..without knowing or needing to know any of the scientific or rational reasons why it is wrong. Its is just wrong. It defies explanation of how something so evil,cruel and abhorrent can happen. I appreciate you shedrow for trying to lighten a horrific subject and for educating all of us..You, RT, Heather, Simone, Terry, Jo Claire, .et al..(because I am forgetting the hundreds more who have educated me over the months) Have been and continue to be an inspiration to those of us who love and respect and care for our equine friends and cannot imagine them experiencing the horror of slaughter. I pray everyday and do what I can to make certain it stops and our domestic and wild horses (if there are any left) will be safe from harm.
That’s all any of us can do. If we keep each other educated and make sure our backyards are clean, we will eventually win this battle. We have a very long way to go and even with no slaughter in the US, as long as it’s right next door in Canada and Mexico, it will remain a threat. I may poke a lot of fun at the slaughterphiles, but this is very serious business. You’ll find most of the readers here to be very well educated and active in stopping slaughter. I am always appreciative for their insight and knowledge they share here.
Laughter is good medicine!! I laugh often and hard, finding humor in just about everything is my coping mechanism and this blog is a crack up!! I wouldn’t be able to deal with my chosen profession of animal rescue if I didn’t LMAO at a lot of stuff. Being a little twisted and able to find the humor in, and a silver lining for, every case is mandatory to me. When life hands you lemons, make some lemonade, then toss in some extra sugar and a shot of vodka… 😉 It doesn’t mean I don’t push the crap out of my legislators (two of which have signed onto our bills – I’m still beating on a particular Senator regularly!), do good work or find horse slaughter – all slaughter honestly – to be horrifically cruel. I think too many people take themselves too seriously and that it hurts our cause with friction and devisiveness. Lighten up, have a good belly laugh, point if you want! Then feed the hungry, train the untrained, take some pics, share them around and find ’em homes, laughing all the way! It’s all good. 😀 Now, where’s our PSA of the week?? LOL
Here! Here!…or is that Hear! Hear! ?
And yes, where is our PSA squared (aka Public Service Announcement regarding Pro Slaughter Animalhaters…err, Advocates)?
This blog never fails to re-energize me when I’m feeling my energy at a low ebb. The great laughs I get from your writing, Shedrow, and also from so many great commentators, do wonders for my funny bone, helps me release the stress and heartache over the knowledge of this evil and the frustration over the repetitive actions needed to keep fighting to stop it.
It never fails, after reading here I find myself with tears of laughter rolling down my face, feeling refreshed and ready to go back into the battle. Thank you, Shedrow, for this service.
I am very sure I am not the only one who finds inspiration to go on fighting this horror of horrors, finds that inspiration right here in the middle of the all the evil PSA stupidity you report so diligently. And your clarion calls to action are a nice touch to bring me back to the yoke too, a reminder that we soldier onward.
Of course, I guess I will also have to grudgingly find a little credit (a very miniscule tiny itty bitty amount of half-assed credit) for the PSA dingdongs. Without the stellar performances of these deluded nincompoops showing their lunacy over and over and over, there would be nothing to laugh at and we’d be spending all our time crying our hearts out instead. This blog is truly a public service for all anti-slaughter advocates. Thank you! (Cue the thousand soft golf claps here for your good work and the sound of a few hundred people rotflol….)
One of the most dangerous and possibly the most economically devastating possibilities for those Charlie Stenholm claims to represent is that the members, heck, even the President of United Horsemen claims that the carcinogen phenylbutazone is safe because it is used in dairy cattle. After tiring of all these ridicules claims, I did some surfing around, and discovered that not only that these drugs are banned in all food animals, but even in spite of inefficient and ineffective tests for PBZ, phenylbutazone is turning up in post mortem inspections of beef. FSIS actually acknowledges that if the tests were more accurate, they suspect they would find more of the drugs, not less. And this is our FSIS inspecting beef produced, processed, and distributed throughout the US. And now former Representative Stenholm is urging everyone with a heartbeat, to support that FSIS waste our tax dollars inspecting horse meat of horses that were almost certainly treated with phenylbutazone during their lives, and likely at multiple times during their lives—Yet, Representative Stenholm who prides himself on being a Blue-Dog Democrat and serious supporter of fiscal responsibility wants the USDA to spend our tax dollars inspecting meat we know without examining is certainly adulterated while letting thousands of tainted cows go uninspected sending adulterated meat neatly packed and marked found safe as of date X by the USDA.
Or maybe that is part of his game. Take federal dollars away from meat inspectors for beef in order to protect non-compliant beef producers from fines and public scrutiny.
You are on target with Stenholm. He is truly a piece of work. Check the latest post from Jerry Finch on Habitat for Horses:
http://habitatforhorses.org/horse-slaughter-money-trail/