Happy Friday! I hope I get this posted on Friday at least. It would be nice to experience a weekend without trying to make sense out of HiCaliber antics for a change. I am grateful for all the intel always and more than I can ever express; I just wish there wasn’t so much to report on because they finally got their shit together. Sadly, kinda like Santa Claus, that may have been reality many moons ago and it’s certainly a nice enough idea in the present, but I don’t really hold out much hope for that to manifest in the near future. Speaking of manifesting things, I think I’ll start off today’s post with Manson and her interactions with the Manifestation Babes. They are rapidly becoming my most favorite people on Facebook. Seriously. They are awesome in how they handle her.
On the last post, I shared some screenshots of Manson trying to manifest some cash flow with a group of spiritual warriors. It seems she tried this the week before to no response when she tried a little honesty. She came right out and said they weren’t getting much traffic on their page, which most of us have noticed for a while now. Hardly surprising when they ban people for asking the most innocent of questions and troll the membership lists of groups they decide are haters to seek out other so ban. Anyhow, when the honesty thing didn’t work out so well, Manson fell back on what she does best and that is lying. No, American `domestic’ horses are not being illegally sourced for slaughter. They are bought and sold in the open and shipped right across whichever border with it being perfectly obvious where they are headed. There are still large feed lots strategically near various border crossings and it’s no secret. Again, the truly illegal thing is shipping to slaughter from California and Manson has been aiding and abetting that for years. She is correct about the carcinogens, but that obviously isn’t a huge personal concern of hers when she shoots herself up with horse drugs and eats and feeds medical waste to her family. Again, all this fundraising went down long after the horses were run through and this was going to be in addition to all the money their village had raised for them already since the Manifestation Babes are a closed group and Manson wasn’t thinking she’d get found out by the haters.
Percy. Percy has been the object of affection for many, the catalyst for drama in some cases and, at times, a cash cow. He is the horse Mansaon whined about not getting enough attention and funding while money was being `wasted’ on a horse like Saban. Percy was bought back in January on the same day Saban was actually. I think they drug 9 horses out of auction that day or something. Money was flowing a bit more freely at the time. Being a pretty color and having a handsome face, the poor horse was the recipient of many licks as the HiCalibrites vied for dibs on him. He was gelded right away and, by all accounts, has a really sweet personality. For awhile there, it appeared that Manson’s favorite ass barnacle, Taylor was going to be Percy’s new owner. She even relinquished the yearling Manson and Bang Bang Becky had gifted her, which ironically is also what took her out of consideration for adoption due to them enforcing a rule that anybody returning a horse has to wait a year before adopting again unless their name is Andrew Fice. So, exit Taylor and enter Jessica the volunteer. Jessica fell head over heels for Percy to the point of obsession. However, Percy’s time at HiCaliber has not been easy. A few weeks after being bought at auction he turned up lame and Manson initially informed everybody it was due to a suspensory issue and he needed a very expensive ultra sound. I’m not sure why Percy’s ultra sound was going to be more expensive than normal, it’s not usually a high ticket item and most vets have portable machines. It turns out the magical ultrasound didn’t do any good if it ever happeed at all and finally, in June, they decide to do proper diagnostics and find out *shocker* Percy has navicular. You can watch the videos above where Manson talks over Moss and they discuss why they couldn’t get it together and properly diagnose this horse for nearly six months and then explain why they want to de-nerve him. For what it’s worth, I’ve dealt with horses with suspensory issues and horses with navicular. They don’t usually present anything like one another. They aren’t even from the same part of the leg, but I can’t really say when Manson let a 100% vet actually see the horse so the initial diagnosis may have been hers alone. Just because there were vet trucks in the background of one video doesn’t mean they saw Percy. We know this from past experience.
I’ve seen the HiCaliber adoption contract and heard from people who have adopted and people that have tried to adopt. It’s always been hit and miss about how fast they respond to inquiries, if they do at all, and they are far from consistent when vetting out potential homes. For some people they want everything short of a blood draw and DNA profile and for others, it seems that if they like you and you’ve kissed enough ass you get approved right away without so much as a home visit or reference check. It seems this is the case with Percy’s upcoming adopter. She doesn’t even seem to know where she is keeping him yet, but already approved from what I hear. She’s actually had dibs on him almost since poor Taylor was out of the running. I understand she’s in love with the horse, but I’m seeing several red flags in her posts. She can’t afford to pay much to ship, expensive monthly supplements, no firm place to actually keep him and no concept on how to feed, but hey, she’s already looked up how to teach him a trick so it’s all good. What could possibly go wrong? Then take into account this will be this poor girl’s first horse apparently. How is allowing her to adopt a horse, that will likely not remain sound very long, responsible when she has no idea how to care for him? Navicular can make it costly to keep a horse comfortable as it progresses and personally, I’ve never really seen nerving work for very long if it does at all and that includes high nerves. The poor girl is going to get her heart broken and Percy is likely not going to get the care he needs even with the best of intentions. How is this making a good match? It certainly speaks to the amount of adoption returns they never tell the general public about. I am sure this girl won’t be happy that Percy is featured here and I did actually think long and hard about it, but HiCaliber needs to do right by both her and the horse. The fact that they’ve reportedly approved this adoption is wrong. Neither of them are being set up for success.
HiCaliber Titan was one of the Fallen herd, so we’re going back a ways for this next bit. He found himself at foster with The Cannabis Queen, Maloree. She’s a shitsack on a horse, but she does seem to feed them well as most of her horses appear to be in good condition and Titan was no exception. I have to admit the Fallen dealio was before HiCaliber was drawing any negative attention from me and they were not really on my radar on a regular basis. I don’t really recall much about it all, so the timelines for Titan are fuzzy aside from what’s on their own pages and website. What seems apparent is that Maloree is the one that placed him and, from what I have been told, she placed him with a student of her longtime friend that lives close by. HiCaliber just did a recent update on how super awesome Titan is doing with his new owner, who is a rank beginner and even showed some pictures that don’t really show his condition. They’re really good at doing that. Then I get the last picture in my inbox recently of what Titan actually looks like as of this week. With that as a reference, you can go back to the update pic and realize this horse is not in good weight and, clearly, nobody from their adoption team is following up on him in person. It’s not like they don’t realize that pictures don’t always tell the whole story. They’ve certainly posted more than a few deceptive ones themselves recently. I’m not even suggesting they take the horse back but a little coaching and follow-up would probably go a long ways.
Pearl showed up at HiCaliber over a year ago. She came in as a 5 month old still on her emaciated mother’s side and, because Manson only believes in soft weaning, was allowed to hang with Mama and suck the life out of her for a bit longer after landing at HiCaliber. She is also blind in her right eye, which we know is an automatic strike against her in Manson’s world. Pearl has been on the $1 menu for a while, but recently they posted an adoption ad for her on their Facebook page. It didn’t last long because people starting asking why she was in such bad shape after being there a year. Initially HiCaliber tried to say that the pics were all from intake, but even though she looked similar, the longer tail and lack of auction tag pretty much revealed that to be a lie. All we really know about Pearl is that she was living over by Laurie’s trailer on the grounds and being cared for separately until Laurie moved away. Now that the adoption ad was taken down, all that remains is her dollar menu ad on their website. There is no excuse for this young filly to be looking this poorly after a year at a rescue. She still has a pencil neck and wormy belly and that’s not excusable. I’m thinking people better start asking after her on the regular or she may be just vanish one of these days.
I’m sure many people don’t remember Itsy and Lily. Their feet have never touched the ground at the HiCaliber feedlot and probably never will. They acquired them from Misner in early May and said that he had gotten them as part of a lot of goats he had purchased privately. Strangely they all had sales stickers on their asses, but that’s the story they sold to the village idiots and it worked. The two fillies were purchased by HiCaliber and whisked straight to foster together while the two colts were private purchases never to be heard from again. Flash forward to this week and the fillies are now much larger and still not halter broke. They are also about to be evicted from their foster home and are not welcome back at HiCaliber. Apparently the foster that had them thinks that halter breaking babies traumatizes them and prefers to leave them alone. HiCaliber states they want what is best for these fillies, but if that was true, perhaps they would have placed them with a foster who was actually going to halter break them. In the amount of time they have been at foster, they should be well handled and easy to work around. Two more set up for failure courtesy of the HiCaliber adoption team.
The water situation continues to be an issue at the HiCaliber feedlot. Two of the paddocks now have these jury rigged auto waters attached to whatever these water tubs are. In theory it’s a great idea, but given the lack of organization at HiCaliber, it’s concerning. Even with high-end auto water systems, there is always one asshole horse in a herd that figures out how to jam the float and flood you out or stop it from refilling. They still need to be checked constantly and they still need to be scrubbed and kept clean; two things that have been problematical for HiCaliber. At any rate, these are only in two paddocks and the rest of the hoard is still depending on humans to keep their tubs full and again, it’s just not happening. These horses are still going dry for who knows how long and it still seems to be falling to the volunteers to rectify this situation as the Manson family sit on their asses trying to figure out new ways to manifest money without actually having to put forth any effort.
Our milk carton horse today was Lindell. He had a rough go at HiCaliber. He arrived at HiCaliber last October as a cryptorchid. They quickly raised the $2000 for his surgery which was done in November along with the removal of some cancer. In the intake video posted above, they talked about him being lame but it didn’t seem to concern the 30% vet enough to not go ahead with a rather expensive surgery before finding out what was going on with him. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised given how often we see them obliviously riding lame horses in videos and on live feed. I’m not sure what went on with Lindell between November and the end of February of this year, but by then Manson had decided he was neurological and posted up a video to `prove’ it. I’m not really sure how it proved he was neuro considering he spent the better part of it bucking and farting, but nevertheless, the ask was on for diagnostic money. From there, I can’t say with any certainty what happened other than on or about the 8th of March, Lindell took the blue tarp nap and there would be no public mourning or sorrow for him either. I’m not sure if he saw vet for diagnostics or not because, as usual, no invoice or vet report was ever posted. Rest in peace, Lindell. #sayhisname
Pretty much anybody that has been following along with this mess knows about the big Fireball Friday even they are planning for next week. There has been some rumblings that ticket sales haven’t exactly been stellar and overall the entire concept has been met with widespread apathy. Part of that may be due to the fact that people don’t want to spend $100 to drink rotgut while scarfing down what can only be described as a vile menu of appetizers. We’ve already seen from previous posts that Angrid isn’t so concerned with actually making any money for this event as much as she wants it to be seen as successful and fun so people will attend next year. I’m not sure why there would be a next year if they didn’t make money given the fact that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result, but you have to consider the personalities involved. The event is being held at Ruby Street which is an old church/event space in Highland Park. If you click the link, you’ll see that it costs $5000 to rent the space on a Friday and that does not include the mandatory valet parking for over 60 guests, insurance, catering, and bartending/alcohol. That’s probably close to 8k they need to make before they can break even. If you do show up and donate, do not expect any receipt or thank you card for at least three months or more because that is also something they leave to their volunteers and can’t be bothered to stay on top themselves. Oh to be a fly on the wall next Friday…
I think Firetyme is a good one to leave off with for today. Both pictures of him were taken this past week. The one in the stall was posted here on Wednesday and the 2nd picture was the rebuttal picture from HiCaliber that Romney Faye used in her live feed on Thursday. Obviously they had given him a bath prior to his photo sesh. For sure he’s gained weight, as the poor horse should after being there nearly 4 months. He still doesn’t have a top line and there is still zero excuse for the condition he was in although the freshly dragged arena was a nice touch. It is especially heinous given the homes they rejected for him solely based on Manson’s hurt feelings. How do they justify letting this horse suffer even a day given the poor adoption and foster decisions outlined in this post alone? I get that the Manson family is super pissed off about this blog. I get that they’re paranoid and I’m sorry they are pointing fingers in the wrong directions and taking it out on the wrong people. It is completely within their power to shut up me and all the other people who are speaking out. Prove us wrong. Get your house in order and practice that transparency you preach. All this stops if those things happen. I’m certainly not confident that it can happen with the current cast of characters running the show, but I have faith in the horse community and that they’ll do right by those animals should they ever get the chance. Prove us wrong.
Yikes, that poor little Arabian, that’s not even a flattering picture. There’s no excuse for her to look like that, skinny and sun bleached. GET SOME FUCKING SHADE HICALIBER. I’m so sick of seeing those pictures with a million horses standing in a dirt pen without a drop of shade.
The fact that there is no shade breaks my heart and more proof they care nothing about the horses.
After what happened to Thomas, I fear for any of them that show signs of sweating too much.
#SayTheirNames
And also, what is with those huge water bins or whatever they’re called? If the auto-waterer breaks then the horses aren’t going to be able to reach down far enough to get to the water at some point. I’m afraid whoever predicted a hoof getting caught in the metal because a horse is pawing is right.
And once they start getting dirty and the algae start growing, who’s going to be out there on a regular basis to empty and scrub it out? That’s a weekly chore that has to be done especially since it looks like it’s in the quarantine area. One more very time consuming thing for the volunteers to do, and get scolded for not doing. It’s not like they can turn on the hose and go do something else. This is bailing out the container and then scrubbing it. Something the ranch freeloaders will never be caught doing but will demand the volunteers do.
Those are tanks used to store chemicals. The tops have been sawed off
Thank you for keeping all of these things on the radar. The horses deserve better than what they get from Hi-cal.
#iamshedrow
My god with all the money they rake in you’d think they could spend $89.95 on a proper, 200 gallon water tank or two. At least the lying is consistent as in they constantly lie. They are so far down the wrong road with the poor horses, they’ll never find their way back.
Thanks for showing Firetyme finally, you shitheads. Now LET HIM GO> let someone who will actually love him and care for him have him. I hope Michelle chokes on her big fat ego.
They’re trying to run on duct tape and zip ties where the horses are concerned. They’ll post that they have needs but like the government they’ll source to the cheapest source/contractor and pocket the rest. Don’t get me wrong, I love my hot glue gun and duct tape and zip ties have their purpose but sometimes you have to spend money and do things the right way or you end up paying for it twice or more in the long run. In NoCals case here they’re just being dangerous and going to cost a horse or more it’s life.
#iamshedrow
What the heck does Romney do to have a paid position? Why can they not just use half that salary to pay some ranch hand and have them live on site? This is ridiculous.
Maybe with their 400 volunteers (Michelle’s words not mine), they could get an Adoption check up committee….throw all of their successful adoptions with adoption dates on a spreadsheet and every 6 months ask for a check up!? Is it that hard?
Then again, that is asking for a rescue who doesn’t even know how to feed their horses to do work.
Or doesn’t really care about horses period.
I just can’t understand the lack of water thing. It has been hot, SEVERAL people live ON SITE. Why can no one walk around and give water?! That is the most basic of horse care. We complain about all sorts of things about HiCaliber, but that right there is enough proof that they should not be responsible for any living thing. I’m so mad for these horses.
Water and shelter are apparently not included in the “responsible rescue” fee.
Now you’ve done it, they’re going to tack on an extra $100 for water and a patio umbrella.
LOL! But seriously, even those pop up shade things zip tied to the rails would be better than nothing whatsoever. They have no imagination when it comes to PROVIDING for the horses. They have plenty when it comes to making up a good “story” to get the dollars rolling in.
I find it shocking that they are adopting out to the people they adopt to. If you cant afford BOARD you cant afford a horse, period. ESPECIALLY not one with navicular. When will people start to realize the purchase or adoption price is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to owning a damn horse? Why are they enabling this mentality? It contributes to the cycle of horses being taken to auction because owners cant afford them. I also saw that the arab “feral” studs are now needing new homes? What in the actual fuck.
And this is part of why they have so many adoption returns. The number returned and subsequently shot would also be a very telling statistic.
I have been offered free horses, a couple were very nice and so tempting. But I know the yearly cost of board, farrier and basic vet care. I can’t afford a free horse.
Beware the free horse, those are usually the ones you can least afford.
The most expensive thing I got was a “Free Horse”.
The Arab colts had a home offer with a rescue when they were pulled from auction but hi cal said they had a home. So now they don’t?
Remember, their stories are fluid!
You are so right about a navicular horse. WE got one from a supposedly acquaintance. Turned out they had drugged her. WE tracked he previous owners and she was supposed to be a pasture puff. We got her semi sound with special shoeing and meds. Good for about hour leisurely ride. But it was all very expensive. That young woman has no business getting Percy. She doesn’t even know how to feed him.
Let’s not forget the young woman adopting Percy took her very FIRST horseback riding lesson in the past 30 days. *** HEAD DESK ***
I can’t even be mad at her. She’s almost as much of a victim in all this as the horse is.
“I can’t even be mad at her. She’s almost as much of a victim in all this as the horse is.”
I agree Shed. She doesn’t know what she doesn’t know. That’s why it’s important for a rescue to know what they are doing.
Adequately taking care of this horse with navicular is going to be expensive. She is going to need a very knowledgeable farrier. A bad farrier can ruin this horse.
A part of me feels so sad for the lady approved for Percy and for the horse. She’s so in over her head and doesn’t know it. She’s been approved for a horse that is going to require more resources than she apparently has financially and probably time as well in order to keep him healthy. Maybe she’s done some reading on his condition and what to do for him (let’s hope that’s the case for his sake) because we all know that everyone in a boarding stable environment is an expert and willing to give you their opinion of what you should do with your horse whether it’s right or not. She’s only seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to expenses with Percy and struggling now. With his navicular, she can’t let him just stand in a stall all day; can she afford the gas for a daily trip to the stable to get him out for exercise? In her care, he’ll probably decline, develop bad ground manners due to her inexperience and once again need rescuing. Not because she doesn’t love him but because she loved him to death and NoCal failed them both. I hope I’m wrong and they find a good support network to guide them. When it falls apart and Percy’s adopter is angry and needs a place to turn to, Shedrow is always here for her.
I’m even more worried that she is going to want to ride her pretty pony all over without taking the adequate precautions necessary for him. She may think it is going to be all about ride, ride, ride without being able to properly care for him.
But after all, what do we know? My first 450.00 horse, supposedly sound horse racked up 10k in vet bills and was still never rideable.
I feel so sorry for that poor girl. She has NO IDEA how much money and care going into owning a horse, let alone one with pre existing condition(s). Way to go Einsteins of the “adoption team”. Meanwhile, good homes get turned down because they are “haters”. It would be funny if it wasn’t actually so sad and it wasn’t hurting innocent animals.
I do feel sorry for the girl, but I don’t think she is that young. Early 20’s? She’s just very naive and HiC is taking advantage of that. She saw a beautiful flashy horse and wanted him. I wonder what they are charging for an adoption fee.
On another subject, I am trying to find Rene’s phony name so I don’t answer wrong to her and get banned.
It’s Shannon Muchka. She posts with it all the time and seems to be unaware we all know it’s her. It would be funny if it wasn’t so shady.
Thanks. I see that name all the time. I guess her brain “is a little off”
I don’t think Rene is playing with a full deck at the best of times.
I don’t understand the “safety of the volunteers” thing. I really don’t. When we get in a horse that is unhandled, difficult, known to be aggressive, whatever, we just make sure they are in a safe area and it is added to the white board, volunteer book, volunteer facebook page, and verbally explained to all volunteers who is allowed to handle that horse or go in their pen. The standing rule is that no one is allowed in a pen without express permission. Guess what? That means that sometimes the founders have to pick out pens … horror! We do anyway! Filling water and throwing hay over a fence is safe for anyone – if a horse is reactive, you simply only allow certain people to enter their pen or work with them. Period. A rescue gets more than its fair share of such horses and really should be able to work with them in some way.
Yearlings though … they can change their look so quickly. Those growth spurts can make a fat chubby yearling show ribs and look awkward in no time. Point about the belly/neck but that yearling is obviously going through a growth spurt. There’s a reason a lot of high end breeders refuse to show photographs of their babies at certain stages.
The IBC water storage bins used as horse waterers I’ve seen before, but it always worries me. Just like you wouldn’t use welded wire cattle panels for horses because of the size of the spacing the grates on those are way too big. They do typically have drains for those who are concerned about cleaning them. Personally, we stick with the big poly tanks for safety. We’ve also never had good luck with those kinds of floats and horses, because inevitably someone thinks it’s fun to play with and breaks it, or gets it off the tank, etc. They are meant for cattle who aren’t nearly as playful. Hopefully their setup with it up against a fence will make it harder for the horses to play with it, but those $10/floats don’t do well for us.
If you look at all the pictures of Pearl, she has never left that big belly rib stage in an entire year and that is not normal. She’s also closer to 2 than she is a year old according to their menu page.
Probably infested with roundworms
HC claims there’s only 5 tix left for Angrid’s $8,000-ish grilled-cheese party next week. Their event-link still says only 35 are going; Ruby Street has seating capacity of 200. Guess they don’t want to tell truth that there’s actually 165 tix left.
They could have their party somewhere free, like a community center…or somewhere way cheaper than $5K rental fee…that money could have gone to the horses.
5K would’ve bought some excellent quality automatic waterers, I’ll bet.
Or most of their hay bill
Or some shade for pens stalls or where ever.
And should have – when they paint the public into the “we don’t have the money for medical care” – please dig deeper corner.
The event link may not be accurage. They will fill their slots but we’ll never know how many of those tickets were free ones. Manson snagged two free tickets for herself and probably Robyn.
that’s true. Now they claim 15 tix avail. & local rescues get 2 for 1 b/c “we want to get you drunk & steal your ideas!” Classy. Just wow.
The doorman they keep bragging about is part of the venue rental and mandatory.
I remember seeing that video of poor Lindell and wondering what Vet doesn’t recognize obvious signs of DSLD? Yes it is in paint horses.
Sigh.
RIP Lindell
DSLD certainly crossed my mind for Lindell during that atrocious video. His hind pasterns were almost horizontal to the ground. Poor thing. What an endearing personality he had. Knowing he’s dead is a punch to the gut.
Watching him buck and fart and feeling so good and then realizing she killed him within weeks was fairly upsetting for me. That certainly wasn’t a horse that was suffering in pain of giving up on life.
I wholeheartedly agree. He seemed like my kind of guy; I love the horses with a little (or a lot of) spunk. I swear there was a point in the video he gave Michelle a dirty look. I think his death is one of the most disturbing for me. I have a retired mare with DSLD. She’s living the high life on huge, lush, green pastures. It’s not cheap to keep her comfortable, but it IS possible. Lindell deserved, at the very least, a real diagnosis by a real vet – and a little effort on his behalf.
It is clear that she has no clue about DSLD. Hopefully, she’ll read these comments and at least Google it.
Even just an image search…
Sending my complaint to the Department of Charitable Trusts today, this situation needs to end.
Dept of Charitable Trusts???
California Department of Charitable Trusts which is a division of the California Department of Justice (CA Attorney General). This is a link to the charities complaint form.
Click to access ct9.pdf
Yup, what HorseLuv73 posted!
I think I saw someone post in the Horror Story group that they were denied adopting Tanner because Romney was attached to him. If we could track that person down to send in a complaint and show they are using donor money for upkeep on a horse the CEO refuses to adopt out. I don’t want to post in that group to try to find her because I am trying to stay off the radar of HC. Does anyone else remember seeing someone post that? If they could send the form in, with their, response, and a screen shot of Tanner on the current hay/hoof drive that would be a good mark against them.
That’s such a joke. Romney never goes there, and if she does, she probably couldn’t even pick (very easily identifiable) Tanner out of a group. They should be jumping on any offers of (GOOD) homes for their horses. I don’t understand.
He’s already been returned from adoption and looks terrible. Gosling was returned too but I think he’s been adopted again. I’m sure they count that as two successful adoptions.
I located the post so maybe I can get the ball running on this.
Awe yes that’s the link to the California State Attorney Generals office complaint form for non profit groups. I have shared that too
I’m glad Firetyme is getting some love finally. Everyone pressing and asking about this horse forced them to feed and groom him. It looks like they’re grooming horses in the videos too. It made me cringe to see a dirty horse in badly fitting tack gamely negotiating a manure filled round pen. Good job, Shedrowvians! Some of the horses are bathed and brushed, the herd is out of the arena and it’s cleaned and dragged. Progress! Thanks Hi Caliber for paying attention here.
While I’m still mad they won’t let Firetyme go to anyone else, and there’s still plenty of time he’s stuck in a shit-filled stall with dirty water (although that’s better than none!) – I was glad to see he at least got groomed and got out of his stall. He looked much happier.
It cannot be called love.
If it wasn’t for this blog, I’m sure he’d be skinny as the rest of them. 😦
He’d be dead. He was in worse shape than Sully for awhile.
If it wasn’t for Shedrow, he and a lot of other horses would be dead right now.
`shedrow’ as a collective for sure. There are a lot of voices making the difference now.
You are correct but you did fuel the fire that had already began. Thankum again and again
#IAmShedRow
#HisnamewasThomas
“Hi I’m wondering how breezy is doing, and the other appy owner surrenders? Any chance for an update?”
HiCaliber: “At the request of the relinquishing family member we we are not doing public updates on her next of kins horses at this time. The public groups tore her world apart and she doesn’t care to be involved further in it. We will publicly update when she is ready.”
I call BULLSH@T!
BULLSHIT is right! The granddaughter was comment on this blog the horses looked horrible. They went to see them.
In other words, probably never. SHe’s lying again.
Yeah, in other words, “we are going to quietly dispose of them and hope everyone quickly forgets they (and their $10,000) ever existed.”
Shed what about their old stallion that should have never been gelded? Any word on him? Is he alive with that nasty infection he had?
Doing better. Still in the barn.
I don’t understand why they gelded the old Appy stud, but won’t geld the “21” year old pony, who probably has a lot more life left in him. They say he’s a crypt – so it’s more expensive, but wouldn’t that be more “responsible” rescue?
They have three crypts there at least. Hardly responsible rescue to take them on and not follow through with gelding them, so they just have to stand out in the sun and have nobody do anythign with them.
Yet I’m sure they’ll take on more horses tomorrow! Maybe there will be another crypt there for them.
Yeah…. OK. Did their “Social Media Department” come up with that one?
@Jaime. are you still keeping the list of the HC horses that have been shot?
RIP #HiCaliberLindell – you were betrayed and we didn’t know. And I’d like to know how a horse goes “neurological” in their care. Do we have a happy syringe handler getting their jollies injecting some nasty disabling cocktail? Happens.
And the babies? There is no reason to continue this show by HiCaliber – the horses have been gifted to them. That is on us. Now we know. STOP putting horses into their hands. Might as well call Misner (as they apparently do) and ask to drop off a horse or two.
Not neurological. He had obvious symptoms of DSLD in the video. It’s possible the symptoms came on while he was in their care. This is not anything that they could of caused. However, their Vet should be aware of this disease and diagnosed.
If it was early stage DSLD it shouldn’t have been a death sentence.
Agreed
EHV-1 would make a horse go neuro. It would also get a major quarantine slapped on your place if anybody found out it was there. No way of knowing now though.
Okay, not familiar with “EPM” and listened to Michelle’s explanation – she is so enthusiastic isn’t she? So I looked it up. I’ve heard of Opossum contamination and have always checked for pee or droppings before feeding because I had heard it causes the toxic condition if a horse ingests feed contaminated by droppings. Just didn’t make the connection – I’ve never had to deal with it.
There is no vaccine but if caught early on the horse can be treated with a paste which is an antiprotozoal oral paste and proven to cross the brain barrier and KILL the protozoa. The only reason a horse gets progressively worse is neglect. I do NOT believe that #HiCaliberLindell was seen or treated by a vet. And if there is an opossum on premises, this could explain the numerous cases of “neurological” and shot to death cases and is UNFAIR to bring another horse on that property.
We have seen their barn and hay stack – chaotic messes and no doubt contamination with animal droppings and fuel (even).
This place needs to be shut down.
I don’t think he had EPM. I think “neurological” is Michelle’s handy-dandy, go-to blanket diagnosis for whenever a horse has a problem she doesn’t feel like throwing money at.
To the uneducated (which, let’s face it, most of the villagers are), “neuro” sounds scary and untreatable. “We euthanized him because he had brain problems” sounds a lot more palatable than “We euthanized him because he was sore.”
They had a possum as a house pet at the time. LOL
She says they need $450 for EPM test. Seems a bit high to me. I had it done for a horse and it was under $300. Always rounding up the costs…
I’m not sure he ever even had it done.
That’s part of why they don’t post their invoices. A lot of the prices they say are not accurate at all. I remember in one video they said something like $30/shot for banamine. They carry it all the time so obviously buy by the bottle – and a big bottle (20+ doses) doesn’t cost much more than that.
They’ve also said, among other whoppers, that they pay $250 for a float, $35-40 to sedate a horse, $300-400 for single-view xrays, and $20 for a couple days of previcox.
Hey, villagers? Either HiCaliber is getting fleeced by their vets and their farrier, or YOU are getting fleeced by them. I’ll let you guess which it is!
And let’s not forget the $20 no wait $14 no wait $16 they pay per bale of alfalfa!
Hay prices are fluid.
I’m so tired of the “donations are down, we really need to rally”, monthly “hay and hoof” campaigns and the Coupon Caliber MLM scheme, it makes me want to vomit.
They raised close to 200K for the OTTB (bullshit)20. Many of those dollars came from first time donors… parents, children, employers and friends of your existing donor base. Did they really wait over two months to thank them for their donations? This is so extremely rude and makes the existing donor base look like idiots. Many of us told their story, helped them raise the money, only to loose face with those we asked to donate, when it turned into a shit show!
They couldn’t even be bothered to thank all the new donors or show them anything positive that came from those donations. Instead they got bitchy and defensive, refused to answer questions or give updates, euthed some, starved others, pimped their fireball party and completely turned off most of those new donors with their attitude. Now you want us to tell 5 friends about Coupon Caliber? Guess what? After the OTTB20, our friends want nothing to do with the ungrateful, deceptive shitshow that is HiCaliber!
Since I know HiCaliber reads this… Please do NOT send thank you cards now, way too much time has passed, the damage has been done and please stop pimping my employer to go to your fireball party! Just when I thought the embarrassment was over, here come the fireball party emails.
How do you (The_Deception_Is_Mindboggling) know they collected close to $200,000 for the OTTB20? I’m just curious because they don’t post much about their donations. I’m not questioning you, just asking how you got that information. That’s an incredible amount of money for the shitshow that followed. I was reading your comment and just sat here shaking my head. OMG! If that number is close to what they collected, it makes me even more angry at so many people fleeced for little to no result. How many of the OTTB20 have been adopted? How many of them have been killed? How many of them are doing well enough to be adopted? A really good rescue could use that amount of money for 20 horses and make a positive impact on those horses’ lives. Except for Firetyme, seems whatever is left there now is standing in shit without any shade or attention and often no water either.
I think the OTTB mess was closer to the 90k mark, 200 seems a bit high even for them.
It was closer to $70,000, I believe and Tara said on a live that they gave them $21,000 for the 20 “not OTTB’s” LOL
We are also in SoCal. We have to run the boiling hot water out of the hose every time we go to fill the water troughs. I can’t imagine horses being able to get enough to drink, what with scalind hot water being auto-watered into those IBC container things. Also, when and how do they get cleaned? We have two troughs in each horse area. One is allowed to run down at a time, dumped and cleaned out. This keeps them kept up. Given that they are using auto-waterers to make up for proper care and observation, what happens when they get jammed or disgustingly dirty?
The boiling hot water in the hose crossed my mind as well. Thank you Shedrow for making the judgement call and posting about Percy. Someone is always watching over here and hopefully the right decision will be made.
I have nothing but praise for the volunteers at HiCaliber. I know they are volunteering because they love the horses, it appears it is a thankless job.
I hope even if they see the containers full that they will feel the temperature of the water. It’s going to be scalding after sitting in the sun and being auto filled with more hot water. 😦
#SayTheirNames
#SayTheirNames
#BlessThe4LeggedOnes
#KeepThemSafe
I’ve been worried about Pearl since I saw her ad 😦 poor little girl is obviously still full of worms and just looks plain sad.
Also, someone really needs to teach these idiots to take a semi-flattering picture. Putting a butt-high baby on a downward slope does not an appealing adoption ad make!
Shed, I know this is off topic but do you know what post I can find the list of horses that have been euthanized? It was in the comment section. I think Jaime was keeping the list?
I don’t recall off hand and there are literally over 20k comments on this blog. Perhaps she’ll see this and link for you.
I have some time today, I’ll go through comments on the blog posts. ;-).
Oh yeah, guess what! I made the #iamshedrow facebook detectives page with my comment about wanting that “thing” shot in the face. Yippee ki yay! I must be doing something right!! Lol
Maybe others will see it and read the rest of my comment and I’ll have made a difference.
#iamNOTshedrow
#shedrowhasmyFULLsupport
#SayTheirNames!
#STOPshootinghorsesintheface!!!
Adagio
Alaina
Angelica
Ariel
Aurora
Astreas
BarbaraJean
Benny
Bobis
Bodeen
Bolt
Boss
Boyer
Breaux
Bristol
Casey
Cheyenne
Clint
Conman
Corona
Cristina
Curtis
Dawson1
Delta
Deuce
Dolly
Drama
Eben
Elise
Emma
Eros
Espirit
Fantasia
Floyd
Gaige
Galaxy
Gemma
Gertie
Grant
Heath
Heavenly
Holland
Jake
Joplin
JT
Kaeleb
Keating
Lannie
Leo
Lindell
Lizzy
Lolita
Mardi
Marian
Marisa
Mastro
Maxwell
Merlin
Merlin
Midori
Morris
Muse
Nicholas
Noble
NormaJean
Olin
Othello
Pauline
Peggy
Phelps
PJ
Posh
Potter
Praline
Ray
Rita
Roosevelt
Sabrina
Sara
Schmitty
Secret
Sedona
Shara
Shelby
Sherman
Stanley
Sweet William
Taj
Thomas
Tuffy
Urban
Von
Willis
Wrangler
Zeus
^^^ This is Jamie’s original list plus a few added after.
Also need to add the other Peruvian mare whose name I can’t remember right now, and Willow, and I’m sure a bunch of others I’m forgetting.
Lyra, the grey mare they killed the same day as Willow…I feel terrible that I can’t remember some of their names 😦
The other mare’s name was Aristocrasia. I may have spelled that wrong. I believe her family called her Ari.
OMG! Is this list for ONLY 2017?
I believe it is part of 2016 as well, but is not a complete list, by far.
That’s horrifying. I had no idea the list was so long…. 😦
#SayTheirNames
#HiCaliberLazarus
is missing from this list. He (an older paint gelding who survived the infamous slaughter truck 11 trip to arrive at HiCaliber laying under the last divider and shared with another (believe it was sully) stood obediently at the trailer while the “ladies” cavorted in the barn before he was killed.
#HiCaliberWillow
is missing from this list. A former BLM free wild horse (a beautiful blondish chestnut mare), tamed and fostered and returned to HiCaliber only to get on Michelle’s kill list for being a favorite of a “hater” (aka independent observer)
Lazarus is at Prancing Pony sanctuary but they never update or show pics because they are parked too far up Manson’s ass. Lazarus was shoved in a single slot of the trailer with Casey and they fell. Sully was one of the Louisiana horses who is alive and thriving at Sale Ranch. Othello was the one that was tied to the trailer waiting to get shot while they all laughed and joked in the barn.
Well, thank goodness someone is paying attention.
My apologies to #HiCaliberOthello.
I always think I couldn’t despise Michelle any more than I already do, but I despise her even more now…..she is truly a sociopath. How do you shoot that many innocent animals (or any at all for that matter) and sleep with a clear conscience?
#SayTheirNames
Lazarus is still alive, as far as I know. But not with HiCaliber, luckily.
Sorry if reposting this is going to make the comment section super long. I have still been trying to add about horses I hear about, but I know there are a lot still missing. There isn’t a specific timeframe, so a couple of these could be from 2015 (just so HC doesn’t try to say we’re lying about anything), but MOST are 2016/2017. Also, a few of these were not shot. Some were euthanized by the vet, and a few died on their own.
Adagio
Alaina
Angelica
Aurora
BarbaraJean
Bobis
Bodeen
Bolt
Boss
Boyer
Breaux (Corporate Storm)
Bristol
Casey
Cheyenne
Clint
Conman
Corona
Cristina
Curtis
Dawson1
Delta
Deuce
Dolly
Drama
Eben
Elise
Emma
Eros
Espirit
Fantasia
Fili
Floyd
Gaige
Galaxy
Gemma
Gertie
Grant
Heath
Heavenly
Holland
Jake
Joplin
Kaeleb
Keating
Lannie
Leo
Lindell
Lizzy
Lolita
Lyra
Mardi
Marian
Mastro
Maxwell
Merle
Merlin
Midori
Morris
Muse
Nicholas
Noble
NormaJean
Olin
Othello
Pauline
Peggy
Phelps
PJ
Posh
Potter
Praline
Ray
Rita
Roosevelt
Sabrina
Sampson
Sara
Schmitty
Secret
Sedona
Shara
Shelby
Sherman
Stanley
Stilly
Sweet William
Taj
Thomas
Tuffy
Urban
Von
Warp
Willis
Willow
Wrangler
Zeus
Stilly
Merle
Doc (was Theo)
Fili
Dawson (bay gelding)
Horrible to see them all up there like that and these are just the ones we know about. We never hear the status of the One Last Good Home horses 😦
Thank you! I looked but couldn’t find it. Glad someone did.
The only difference between HiCaliber and a kill buyer is that they name their horses before they kill them.
That’s really sickening. Those poor horses, never to be spoken of again by HC. They bring them in with donor money then they’re on to the next and the next… then when people forget about them, she shoots them. Horrible!
Tip of the iceberg. Sadly
Wow that’s just sickening.
The venue for their stupid party is $5000 to rent? That would sure buy some shelters
It would also buy their next load of hay.
At least they aren’t using that money to buy more horses.
I guess they thought they could attract some bigtime LA donors? I don’t think the wealthy, sophisticated types they’re after want to come hear about their anal beads and vagina temperatures.
If past videos and Fireball Fridays are anything to go by, not a single one of them can hold their alcohol so I can’t imagine this going well.
Has anyone seen this? I left off posters name.
Hi I’m wondering how breezy is doing, and the other appy owner surrenders? Any chance for an update?
This was HiC answer:
At the request of the relinquishing family member we we are not doing public updates on her next of kins horses at this time. The public groups tore her world apart and she doesn’t care to be involved further in it. We will publicly update when she is ready.
Yes I happened to see that. Very concerning.
I creep on several sites that follow and negatively portray hical, and never once did I see any negativity towards the owner that relinquished. Only towards the rescues mismanagement of horses and funds. I find it unlikely that social media did any sort of tearing down of this person. I think it’s just a creative way for them to say we aren’t updating on these horses and won’t be, ever. Tata 10k. They won’t have any problem making that balloon payment at the rate they’ve been streaming along collecting money.
If I remember correctly, it was Manson who posted “we don’t keep horses who are in severe pain alive” and basically reamed the lady who sent them those horses and $10,000 (*never forget the $10k!) and then the HiCal crazies all jumped on board and eviscerated that poor lady. Am I incorrect in this? My memory can be a bit fuzzy at times.
My gut tells me that they did get bashed by some people. There are some angry angry people out there. Those people are on permanent time outs from most pages.
I truly will take the silence if the family has piece of mind and are getting their questions answered.
#wewontforget
*watching, I thought it was Cheryl and the Passo’s that got that beating? or was it both? I’m gonna go and look
Cheryl has taken a real beating for standing up for what was done to those horses.
Considering the grand daughter has and does post on this blog, I’m sure Manson is lying.
I believe you 100% that she is lying. Just like they (HiC) won’t say where horses are going because the rescues that rescue the rescue horses get harassed, sorry I couldn’t help myself on that one. lol
I should clarify that by “their silence” I meant the family.
they just don’t want any of their donors to check out the other rescues and see what rescue really looks like.
that’s the truth. Yes Cheryl has taken a beating from every direction. I wish they would leave her alone, she has enough guilt all by herself.
Don’t you find it odd that they have no regard for anybody else’s grief over the loss of a loved one (both the Peruvians and the Appys came from the families of deceased people), but the world must stop for Romney’s grief?
That is the problem. The world didn’t stop and it never will. Compassion goes a long ways for anyone who has lost a child, mother, father, etc. grief is grief and everyone is different. I am sure we all know someone who has lost a child, you can hardly get them out of bed (my experience.) For those that have lost parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles and are looking for a soft landing with beloved animals, they believe they are doing the right thing. Here is problem #2, these families are grieving and trying to make the best decisions they can. They were promised something that wasn’t given, they were bashed, slandered and ridiculed for a decision they thought was the best. Now they have to live with the guilt of trusting a piss poor “rescue” that did all of the above that demands compassion but can not give it.
Strange because it was Manson that caused all the drama with the family by lying about their sponsorship and the situation.
I think you are right. But my comment was a rebuttal to Michelle’s analysis. If she did believe it was EPM, or wanted to convey it was EPM, there is medical assistance that could and should have been provided. AND since it is a protozoa shared by the droppings of the opposum, it indicates she is not maintaining a clean barn nor checking for contamination. She cannot keep standing in the “I’m doing all I can” BS spot!
I may be late to the game but I just watched RFB’s live PowerPoint presentation on becoming an MLM with her coupon book BS. Must we really include pic’s of the deceased child? Never once does she mention her other child, where are his pictures or is he not deserving because he is living?. Now that she is no longer CEO and just and auction team member I wonder if she is still getting her CEO pay or if Manson is now claiming it?
That lame coupon book seems sketchy at best. Pay $25.00 and then you have to link up 3 credit cards to use it? and your bank account. They are offering cool prizes for referring your friends too (insert MLM). I looked up the company behind this newest scheme on Facebook and they had under 20 likes. Looks totally legit……
I don’t like Romney Faye. I think she is actually the evil twin to Manson’s dumb one, but that woman has got to step back and get herself some therapy. Losing a child is unnatural and horrible, but she should be at least moving through the stages of grief. If she can’t function, then get off the live feeds and handle things. Do it for the surviving son if nothing else. She’s not doing herself or the rescue any favors for not handling her shit. Nobody wants to hear that she doesn’t give a shit about the horses most days. I don’t believe she ever really did, but if she’s openly admitting it, it’s gotta be bad. She needs help and if Manson was any kind of friend, she would insist she go get help.
I agree. I couldn’t believe she brought him up right away in the video. Compose yourself. But of course it was already planned per the photo collage. I’m sorry her son died to but bringing it up in EVERY post is depressing and not helping the horses.
She clearly stated she doesn’t give a shit about the rescue most days. That makes me wonder why she bothers. It’s showing.
The tears are just a tool of the cold and calculating. It’s all planned out and comes across that way at this point. For the rescue she has the “weepy, good girl” and “grieving mother” image she tries to use. It’s the little snippets that come out just as the camera is shutting off or the clips that aren’t for public viewing that show what a horror it must be to be around her when it’s not the “romney show”.
agree, coupon-book & company behind it seem very sketchy, classic how they claim retailers wind up giving u “free money”…sure they do.
Credit card numbers. Bank account numbers. Their nuts. It’s like a Nigerian scam.
Huh? Romney is no longer the CEO of HiC?
What, when, where, how?
Please tell me.
I cannot bear to watch their inane videos without feeling nauseous from all the BS spewed forth.
She just said she has stepped back in her last live feed. That’s not really news. Manson has said as much too.
I think I miss alot of stuff. She’s no longer CEO?
Not sure if that’s for good or she has just stepped back.
There are so many other ways to raise funds for an 501(3)(3) nonprofit that doesn’t cost the donor a dime – AmazonSmile, iGive, Goodsearch to name a few.
I think they do AmazonSmile and they used to do ResQwalk. I haven’t heard them talk about either lately though.
Shedrow I’m wondering if there’s a way dates the death accrued could be added to that list. Maybe it might open peoples eyes and minds and get them to think, Woa wait a Minute that’s too many horses in a 7 month period. Wasn’t this list just horses killed in 2017 alone and the list was put on this blog last month.
This Percy thing is a diasater waiting to happen. Anytime you have a horse that looks like he does with a good temperament he got sent to auction for a reason. There’s always a Reason, sometimes a owners death, lack of training, health issue, cost to fix or manage health issues, lameness, and the owner not having the balls to step up and do the right thing by the horse which is PTS or find him a pasture pet home only. And most people will Not take a horse with Percy’s problems cuz it’s gonna be a on going expense for the life of the horse with little assurance they can keep him pain free.
If I were the barn owner this girl approaches I’d have to refuse her cuz whats going to happen is it’s expensive to board, it’s expensive to keep a horse comfortable with Percy’s lameness. (even without the added costs of boarding) Which will Likely result in him being neglected, or abandoned. Then the barn owner will have to deal with Hi Cal in order to do anything with him, Which could end up long, drawn out, and expensive.
She can’t afford to pay someone $150 bucks to move him, how does she know what it’s going to cost if she does not know where he needs to be moved to since she has not found a place for him to go to yet cuz imagine this, everyone wants Money for board not for you to work it off.
Then we get to Percy’s adoption fee. I read the first girl who was taking him said to one of her friends his adoption fee was $2800 but she was getting him for a special price. So does that mean cuz of his condition he’s on the $1 Menu now?
Lets not forget Sept 2017 is looming in the not so distant future and that’s when that balloon payment on a Place for sale at $2 million is due making that balloon payment 500,000 dollars if They have not paid anything monthly towards it for the last 3 yrs.
So the pressure is on, it would be on anybody if they had that due.
They have really set those two filly’s up for failure not halter training them. How do they plan to move them if they have a fire? I just don’t understand their way of thinking. When foals are born here they have a halter on them within the first week. yep you heard me. They are not left on them but they are taught to accept it by then. They are then taught to walk on a lead rope just for things like this. Some people will say well they will follow other horses. You ever tried to get a unhandled not halter or lead rope trained onto a trailer when there’s all kinds of caios going on? I know theres always ways, but think about this, we are talking about Michelle and her idiot friends here, not real horse people.
I’ve been a long time volunteer (0ver a year) of Hicaliber.
It’s very saddening to see how a sociopath,obsessive, hate mongering loser (heres looking at you Shedrow) can attract an actual group of idiots in one place.
Just thought i’d let you in on some actual facts, believe me, don’t believe me….but i’m actually THERE. Unlike most of you that sit behind your screens and feel like you’re a part of some movement….shit, i have no idea what you all think you’re accomplishing other than creating a cesspool of people that should have been aborted.
So lets begin….
1. Waters are dumped, scrubbed and refilled AT LEAST twice a day. You learn this in orientation and there are actual teams of “water patrol” people that make sure it gets done every day, yes they do post when they need people to step up but the fact still remains, horses dump water, there are more than one water source and they are fiercely checked on. (comments that say otherwise are people that can take a photo of a few stray pieces of hay in a tub and claim it OH SOOO DIRTY!).
2. Michelle is not this antisocial, narcissistic, asshole you make her out to be. She didn’t know me when i first started but patiently listened to my story of losing a horse when i was young, she engaged in conversation with my children and said if i ever felt sad about my lost Appy that i was free to come to the ranch and love on any horse and at any time. She’s always appreciative of the volunteers and lets them know, how does she let them know? TO THEIR FACES. If there are problems she is always willing to listen to the volunteers on how to make things easier for them.
3. Not all of those euthanasias are from this year, Michelle/Robyn/Romney state AT AUCTION that we pull the injured, sick, ones who need to be compassionately put down or medical treatment. They’re not there looking for flashy as they will likely go to private buyers. They’re pulling for the ones that truly need the village.
4. HAVE A FUCKING HEART you barbarians. Romney lost her son 4 fucking months ago, how would any of YOU feel if your child with health issues suddenly passed???? The woman is doing the best she can and i’m sure some days are harder than others and she wants to shut the world out and just grieve. Unless you are in her shoes, don’t fucking judge.
5. Have any of you actually taken care of a horse? Well guess what! They shit a TON. The barn is maintained DAILY to ensure the horses within it are kept comfortable. I’ve even been asked to find the “secret poops” that hide where you cant see them. Firetymes stall is never neglected, maybe his board isn’t updated as some volunteers who are new maybe don’t know about it but believe me, he’s walked, groomed, loved on, and in a clean stall and is FREE FED and has been on thrive for a while now. Your “barn photo” is old as hell and he has put on a ton of weight.
6. You’re literally looking at pictures and trying to only see the negative, please asshole behind this page, post a picture of yourself, your home, your children. We could all use a good laugh.
7. No horse, i repeat, NO HORSE goes without food. There are hired feeders in the AM and a giant team of feeders for pm and weekends.
8. The parties are funded by volunteers “BYO—“, yes some donations from local places are made but that’s what community is for, SUPPORT.
9. The person who runs this clearly keeps the wheels turning by spilling nothing but lies that sadly you all believe. This is a real life bully, affecting the lives of REAL PEOPLE, the volunteers don’t deserve to be put on a website that could affect their lives, jobs, relationships. The horses are well taken care of and loved. That is all that you all need to know unless you’d like to volunteer as well and help out. But please, by all means, sit on your computers and believe the negative tripe that pours out of this losers keyboard.
Hired feeders? When were they hired I wonder? The continual mantra over there is “there are no paid employees there are no paid employees”. So the other volunteers who let Shedrow know (with pictures no less) are lying, but you are a paragon of truth? When you come on here w/ your guns a blazing I have a problem believing you. Feel free to post some picture of your proof why don’t you?
No, she has paid feeders before. I have an ad that she was offering $15/hour. It never lasts long and where the money comes to pay them is not totally clear.
“Find the secret Poops”??? Really…omg. In the real world, we call that tossing a stall. And if ya do it right, you can make 6 bags of shavings last quit a few days.
Oh, just so you know, that’s 6 bags for a 12 by 12. and the best time to scrub and replace buckets is after you muck.
Cleaning water and feed tubs was always part of cleaning the stall for me. Dump them on top of the dirty bedding and go clean them. For those horses that dunk, they’d get their buckets cleaned more than once.
Oh and one last thing, “Secret Poops” hide in water buckets too.
Well the poster states that’s the way she was trained during “orientation” and she probably believes that what it is called.
What one has to take into consideration is the fact that her orentatiers call hocks “elbows” and forelocks “bangs” and when b a horse is unhanded it has “behavioral problems”
And that’s just a start concerning their terminology.
The elbow comment killed me.
” her elbow or whatever it is “
Good point. When HiCaliber is your only point of reference, of course everybody else is going to sound strange. aka actual horse people.
You’re admitting in that post that HC is lying, specifically about the HIRED feeders. And yeah, most of us are professionals in the horse industry. When you’re talking about “secret poops,” that says to me that people are picking at the surface and not sifting. What about the pee? That sinks to the bottom. If you’re not sifting and flipping the shavings, the pee looks like it disappears, but it is really hiding and continuing to be toxic.
The initial post talking about water had a herd of thirsty horses crowded around a filling tub. Is that really okay to you? That screams to me that there was NO other water source, or that it was also dry.
I love how you talk about us being bullies when you literally state that we should all have been aborted. Pretty sure that is cunty-er than anything that has been said by commenters.
So I am guessing there are no min. blocks anywhere on that ranch either.
I am so glad you said there are hired feeders. I am sure EDD would love to check that out. Not to mention the Insurance Companies. Thanks for the heads up!!
LOL so true!
It boggles my mind, anyone can clean a stall and water it doesn’t take an idiot to figure out that you don’t want live that way. But it sure makes you special when out the fact that you are getting paid cash under the table. Holy HORSE CRAP you can’t even make up this SHIT UP!!! 😂😂😂
Seriously?! Waters are dumped and cleaned twice a day? Haha. Honey. If they were, the “water team” would be there all day! Who is this water team you speak of and why have they been slacking so bad??? Is there a special biz desk for them as well? Because they obviously need to get their shit together. Can we ask you some questions? Since we all don’t know anything about horse or taking care of them, and we just sit at our keyboards and all….maybe we could learn from your long term (over a year) experience.
How many times are the horses ridden or exercised per day? Per week?
How many times per day is each horse groomed and fly sprayed?
How many times a week are the stalled horses walked or turned out?
How many times per day is each horses stall cleaned?
How many days a week are you there?
How many times a day are their fly masks checked to see what is going on underneath?
I want to know the answers to Horses First’s questions!
Haha. Don’t we all 😂
#ProveUsWrong
#SayTheirNames
Oh my…wasnt that a load of verbal diarrhea. Pictures and screen caps of their own words don’t lie…but clearly you do sweetheart.
OMG. Secret poops!?! That’s hysterical!
😂
Wow, you are really deeply indoctrinated. Kendall, is it? Or is that just a name you use for your email? Ever clip and screen shot I have used comes straight from them and insiders. If you want to see my horses, look no further than the header of this blog. You might be confused at what you’re looking at because they are actually being fed in the picture and aren’t standing on a crowded feedlot.
Oh yeah!! You can see email addresses because it’s your blog!!! LMFAO! God I love you Shedrow!!
Well I must have confused her with the term “turn out”
Maybe that isn’t covered in orientation 😂😂
A cesspool of people that should have been aborted? Wow! These are your past donators and volunteers you are talking about. Maybe if things changed people wouldn’t have to worry about the lives of horses living at the rescue!
Maybe she was confused when she said that, and was talking about all the aborting Manson has done to the poor horses on the feedlot.
Hopefully the teams of water patrol are more successful than the teams used to identify their OTTB’s.
On the website is at least one OTTB has been there since March 2016 without ID results.
Young lady, you are one of the lucky ones in that you obviously have the human compassion gene – the one that makes some human beings reach out to help those less fortunate to offer aid and comfort to another creature suffering from illness, injury, starvation, lack of love, etc. Many of the people on this post also have that gene. I believe the difference is lack of experience. Many posters here have more years of experience with horses than you have walked this planet. We’ve not been moved by just a few pictures. We’ve been moved by actual events and the words coming out of the mouths of those running Hi Caliber Horse Rescue. Some people posting here have actually been volunteers like you. They report what they’ve actually seen. There is definitely something wrong with an equine rescue that gelds a horse and fries up the testicles removed during surgery and passes that around to their children and others. There is definitely something wrong with an equine rescue that puts an new arriving horse in the hands of people too intoxicated to walk or talk. That could have gone so wrong in so many ways for both the people and the poor horse. There is definitely something wrong with an equine rescue that relies on someone who is not even a vet tech making diagnosis that end in euthanasia for an animal without consulting a vet. That’s especially true when they collect donations in excess of the bail-out fees from auction for that purpose. There is definitely something wrong with an equine rescue that states for the record they have no paid employees, then pays people to work for them. There is definitely something wrong with an equine rescue that continues buying more animals weekly to further crowd their facilities. It is not sustainable financially in any way, shape or form. Good rescues only accept animals when they have space, time and money to care for them properly. Unfortunately this is not how Hi Caliber operates. The people on this post, including Shedrow, are very concerned about the lives and health of the many horses on that ranch because it is so very obvious to us they have taken on more than they can handle and don’t seem to realize that. If their efforts to fund raise were directed toward “saving” the horses they already have until they can be placed in quality homes, we would have nothing to talk about.
When the crash comes, and it will, I only hope you have not burned out toward rescue because you would likely be a wonderful asset as a volunteer in any equine rescue program that really works.
Well said seenitbefore. YourPantsAreOnFire, I too admire your compassion for the horses.
#ProveUsWrong
#SayTheirNames
How very eloquently stated! It’s too bad that it probably fell on deaf ears. When someone is that vehemently certain that the organization of which they are in favor is doing the right thing, it is difficult to bring them back from the indoctrination they received. I wholeheartedly believe Shedrow should start referring to the leader as Hitler, rather than Manson. Although HiC very well resembles a cult, it also resembles the Holocaust.
Hilter or Pol Pot. HiCaliber ranch sadly reminds me of the Killing Fields.
#ProveUsWrong
#SayTheirNames
The force (aka brainwashing) is strong in this one
Fun fact of the day: The Zenyatta forum member/EXTREMELY loyal Villager that some of us were talking about the other day has been banned from the HC FB page. God knows why, and she definitely doesn’t know she’s been banned. What a big fucking mess.
YOU are a big fucking mess.
I beg to differ. I hope you don’t get arrested when this all falls apart. I believe you care and you’re trying to help. Careful the shit doesn’t splash all over you too.
You are a mess.
Don’t you have waters to scrub? Or maybe you aren’t on the “water team”
I believe she’s on the `scour the internet and defend’ team.
Lol
How old are you? You’re a mess? Lol
What are you, 10? Wtf am I saying that is untrue, sweetie pie?
Yes. I’m obviously 10 years old. I’m saying everything sounds too good to be true. I followed HiCaliber from the beginning. I have been quiet and have given money and supplies. When they went to auction the 2nd time, I was done. This is not sustainable. It simply is not sustainable if you know basic math (you know, the math 10 year olds learn?). I’m glad if what you say is true. But the obvious thing is, it’s not true. But nice try. You did good.
@watching with interest I was talking to YourPantsAreOnFire, not you. Sorry about that.
I knew that 🙂
She mentioned Secret on the anniversary of her death, and was curious about her necropsy. Totally bizarre.
I don’t think she knows.
If she doesn’t know, then how does everybody else know? Maybe she’s not banned.
VA in CA?
Yep.
Whoa! She was a staunch supporter. What happened?
WTH? That’s almost cruel of them. What could she have possibly done?
That’s going to break her heart. Fooled as she was, I feel sorry for her. She’s going to need some detox from that cool-aide.
I don’t think she was banned. Some of her posts are still there but it looks like they deleted some of her questions (transparency y’all)
Why would they ban her? She is a hard core supporter, but maybe it’s because she doesn’t have cash to donate. I know she asks questions, but she isn’t rude about it. As far as I can see she is one of their stronger supporters.
Maybe she’s not really banned. You have to click on the `posts’ tab to see visitor posts now and you didn’t used to have to do that.
I am banned and I can’t see the visitor comments from my page. I do however use other log ins, lol
Wonder how much Winstrel V Firetyme has in him. While he has gained weight, he also looks full of edema. But I am only a 25% vet ..I was only a tech. By the bye, people inject themselves with that stuff too..
People like y’all that just look for the negative will always find it. The horses are all fine and will continue to be fine. There’s nothing your little *free (i.e you’re too cheap to buy an actual site) page will don’t to change that. You’re using your own jealousy of the most successful horse rescue in the US (go ahead and look it up) to what? Try and shut them down? Are YOU personally going to take on all the horses Ms Mother Teresa? Didn’t think so. So when I’m no longer on vacation I’ll be back at HiCaliber naming a road apple after this joke of a “tell-all site”.
Aaaaaand again, cue the “you’re just jealous” only they usually spell it your*.
*10 year old grammar level
Oh, I missed that! “are YOU personally going to take on all the horses Ms Mother Teresa?” (It’s Theresa)
OMG. Thank YOU for asking. No, absolutely NOT personally, because not even one HUGE rescue could handle this one. Nope. There will be many, many rescues and individuals involved in FINALLY FINALLY saving these horses. You’re familiar with the phrase, “many small streams make a mighty river”? Right? Yes, that. Only not lying like HiCaliber.
WhoSmeltIt and Pantsonfire are the same person. They seem to not realize I can see their IP and email adress. Nice try though. One person trying to be a village. Kinda sad.
NO< my bad. You are most correct, it is Teresa. mia culpa. See? We admit when we make a mistake or are horribly wrong. 🙂
Don’t have any reason to be jealous. Just majorly concerned after following for 2 years of a downward spiral. Did I miss a major news publication sharing the news that HiCal was the most successful horse rescue in the US?
Please share links to this info. Thanks
I thought they were now the `rebels of rescue’, formerly the most active. It’s so hard to know which hyperbole or claim they are making on any given week.
Eh don’t let yourselves get trolled.
This reeks of the mentality of Percys adopter who is likely upset that she made a cameo on this blog.
Oh, Hi Tara, fancy you showing up here!
Ok, I Googled “most successful horse rescue in the US” and HiCal was on page 2. Links Please….
My guess is TMS too. Or a wannabe
Not TMS. IP resolves to Valley Center so probably a member of the immediate Manson family.
Is this a full moon or just Fireball Friday fall out? Thank you for attempting to drill the blog to find out who owns it. That’s exactly why it is a free site. I’ve been thinking of monetizing it though and donating the funds to the real rescues that are trying to clean up this mess. Please do name something at HiCaliber after me. That kinda thing kinda stokes me. I can tell you the readers of this site are responsible for saving more horses than HiCaliber has in the last month alone, including the ones they have managed to save from HiCaliber. Stay tuned for the next post I put up. I’m sure you’ll love it.
I will be more than happy to pay for your next installment and the ones after!!! I will now do a happy dance 💋
WhoSmeltDealtIt, do you honestly believe the horses are “all fine”? This statement alone confirms that you are not a true horse woman. The horses at HiCaliber are suffering and it saddens me to see that you don’t realize that. 😦
#ProveUsWrong
#SayTheirNames
Most successful horse rescue in the us? Please tell me your joking.
He was freshly groomed and bathed in that pic. He’s still skinny looking and still has his war wounds on his back. I was sent another recent pic of him today. I think a supervised winstrol series might have helped him if he wasn’t eating, but it appears he just wasn’t being fed enough or correctly.
What is Winstrol?
It’s an anabolic steroid often used to get a horse back in their feed tub and to build them up a bit. It’s given in a series of shots and is quite useful when applied correctly. They generally don’t have a big personality change like they would on something like equipoise.
We should get someone to request that the next auction horse be named Winstrol.
@toservehorse, that is an excellent suggestion for a name! LOL
There are more for the Rainbow Bridge list here. Don’t forget all the ones from the Fallen Herd. I don’t know them all but do remember Checkers, Tai, South Forty, Fancy, Pam,and Honor. They and others that made them a whole lot of money. Several of them definitely needed to be set free from their pain but some of the others could have been saved had they taken a few dollars from the donations and treated them. It made me sick Manson made Warp wait 2 whole days, then stood another 12 hours at the ranch before she finally got around to easing her suffering. That mare was their poster child for Hi Caliber and probably got many pockets opened up with donations. Didn’t she deserve better than that?
THIS COMMENT IS FOR MICHELLE SINCE I KNOW YOU ARE READING–
FHR has offered refuge for the grey Arab colt and Firetyme! They have been refused why?? I loved Hicaliber until I saw the continued bullying of rescues doing amazing work by Michelle publicly on her rescue page. I donated, volunteered and had invested my heart and soul. I will never support Hicaliber again. Unless a major staff change happened, a ton of horses were adopted out and Hicaliber took a major break from auction I will never support them again.
HORSES FIRST EGOS LAST MICHELLE! PUT YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES ON, SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE AND HAND OVER THE HORSES TO A QUALIFIED RESCUE! YOUR REIN OF TERROR IS COMING TO A HALT. MAKE THE FALL A LITTLE LESS HARD AND START ACTUALLY DOING RIGHT BY THE HORSES.
Great post! And boy do their adoptions need some overhauling. Everything seems to get returned. So yes Shed, your right again, these horses all seem to be set up for failure. Love the straight out of water. Nice touch!
The horses suffer as pawns in the game to “support Michelle in the style to which she has become accustomed.” Worst of all, people watch as Michelle–and Romney, in her claim that she doesn’t cash her paychecks while applying for disability–commit fraud, even as they watch the horses deteriorate and disappear before their eyes. Of course, that’s excusable apparently because she lost her son.
I look forward to the fact that Michelle won’t be the only one who gets questioned when their house of cards fall.The Board of Directors as well as anyone who solicits funds on their behalf are viewed as culpable. Her becoming just another auction team member won’t stop that.
#iamshedrow
#followingcomments
The comments and replies get so bunched up and I don’t feel like scrolling around. Regarding Percy, he is de-nerved so navicular symptoms should be alleviated, which might lead the adopter to think he’s fine and cured. The surgery doesn’t cure the underlying cause, though. He can also injure himself in the same area and not know because he can’t feel it. If the adopter rides him too much or on rough terrain or poor footing or isn’t diligent about hoof care, it can go bad. Those nerves can also regenerate over time and if you aren’t a super aware horse person you might not see the early signs. If that happens, what is the plan for this horse?
Is HC able to go back and “clean up” negative comments on their live feeds after they’re over? I appreciate people who leave all comments visible so I can decide for myself what to think about them. Or can they delete them and block people as they make them? Whenever I watch a live feed after it’s no longer live, I never see anything but kudos for HC.
Yes, they can delete and ban after the fact on a live feed. They also usually have at least two admins watching everything.
Well Shed, the crazy has now teamed up with the crazy. Seems that the HiCalibrites don’t know that the IamShedrow Facebook page with the poop emoji with a raging hard on for you is actually run by Anthony Pasternack. He thinks he’s ever so sly and witty. Sadly, it’s just his jealousy showing. Thought he always signs his name to what he writes or it doesn’t exist? Loving that Bang Bang Becky, Angrid and the rest of the brain trust is so clueless. Their smugness at this newly discovered page is cause for many giggles. As for Pasterfuck and his bitch, they have no clue what they stand for or believe anymore. Seems that this blog has superceeded their taste for HiCaliber blood. It must suck to be so jealous. Little does he know that we are the ones laughing at him and his see-through vendetta. Poor Tony. Is no one paying attention to you other than maniacal Margaret? Desperation is definitely your color! You just keep screenshotting and whining and we’ll all have a good laugh….at you! Be sure to say ‘Hi’ to Laura Bell. Maybe she’ll let you write something for her again soon. Maybe you could share with us why you’re newly enamored by HiCaliber? Last I checked, they were trying so hard to emulate their favorite feedlot, keelpin and morgue in Louisiana.
Well damn and I felt like a celebrity because I made a comment on his post. POOR POOR ANTHONY, you still don’t get your sucker.
I going it funny that the people who sued HiCal (The bells) are ok with him rubbing elbows HC and vice versa. Anthony going as far as borderline endorsing them all in the name of trying to bring down Shed.
Never underestimate what a man with a fragile ego and small penis will do when his feelers get hurt. I’m done with him for now. Let him jump up and down on FB. Nobody cares.
I don’t really look at that stuff, because this blog keeps me busy enough outside my actual life, but it doesn’t really surprise me to see them join forces with HiCal if that’s what they have done. They refused to believe the mountain of evidence against The Bells, they think buying out of Kaufman is rescue somehow and it’s not really about horses for them. I feel a bit badly for some of the names they are trying to drag down with them like Donna and Vicki’s but those ladies are probably a bit too busy dealign with real life rescue and horse stuff to worry about what Tony is doing online. Same with me. He’s only trying to scare people off from posting here and it’s not really working. I don’t make people register with their own names if they dont’ want to, but you can believe that when they email their stories to me in private, real names are used. The next post will be a signed guest post. Let them play on Facebook. We have horses to save.
You have gotten a mountain of emails from me and my usual moniker is no secret to this blog. I simply couldn’t restrain myself when posting today though. I find Tony to be like every other keyboard warrior out there busily hate-mongering to anyone he can hold as a captive audience. In a way it’s a perfect marriage between that asshat couple and the HiCaliber sociopaths. You know, birds of a feather and all. What’s exceptionally humorous is that he’s so tickled with himself. He’s really not the wordsmith he thinks himself to be and his rabid sidekick is living in her own wacky fantasy world of self admiration. Let him wade through the HiCaliber shitpiles and bullshit arm in arm with Manson, Bang Bang and the whole brainwashed village to his hearts content. I’ll even send him a pair of muck boots. I doubt he owns a pair or even knows what they’re used for!
I bet he knows what they’re used for. I have a feeling the wife is likely stump broke. Anyhow, just let them do what they do. We’ve made a lot of head way as a group and continue to do so. Horses are being saved by people on this blog and differences are being made. That’s what is important and needs the attention. I’m just about to put up a guest post that will fill in a lot of blanks. People are coming forward and standing up. That’s what makes differences.
With the rescue of a certain horse last week, we are seeing the tides change. People are organizing and putting plans into motion. The jealous goons on social media are like gum on the bottom of a shoe, best scraped off into the gutter. Not a word more will be dedicated to their desperate attempts at sounding sane. God forbid they have an actual Meltdown!
Why are you so obsessed with me? Thought you were all about the horses JM? I don’t mention your names or hashtag this ridiculous blog for a few days and you miss me.
Tony why are you wiggling around the time out I put you in? Bye boy!
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Just an opinion but TonyPasternak, AnthonyPasterfuck, whoever you are, you are an unnecessary distraction here. Most of us are seriously concerned about the horses at HiCaliber and don’t care about you or Laura Bell, or your wife, or what you think of HiCal these days. It would be nice if you’d just shut up and go away.
Someone was asking about animal control officers. They are dispatched to a complaint,
They can put anything in a report. Make sure you get a copy of it.
I worked in a high profile animal shelter for 24 years. If you want attention on conditions go to the top. Make copies of your concerns on the animal welfare only.
Send one to each of the board of directors. Also The president or CEO.
Find out who sponsors them. It could be a news station. Dog food company. Cat food.
Don’t go after them. Their sponsors are their biggest assets. They don’t want anything bad to get in the news and them not doing their job.
Explain what is going on. Nothing being done tell them about it. Shit goes down hill. If there is a sac on the board. Complain about it. You should get some action. If this hasn’t been done. Someone could give it a try. I live 2000 miles away.
Throw a few good financial auditors in there , they know where to look for hidden money.
Or in the case, unaccounted money.
Too bad my brother-in-law works as an auditor for the franchise tax board… Wish there was something he could do about auditing HC…