I have a confession to make. I’m actually very much a silver linings kinda person. I tend to try to look for the good in a situation or, at the very least, seek the higher meaning or lesson in things. I don’t mean that in a Pollyanna way, but it usually prevents a lot of stress for me and keeps me from bogging down with negative thoughts. For a split second last week, I had almost manged to put a positive spin on Manson’s latest live feed extravaganzas. With everything being all about her, I thought I could just give them a pass and not have to comment on much. If she wants to be a vulgar hose-beast on live feed, more power to her. That, alone, does not require my commentary because I’m not out to change that. However, the positivity was only for a split second because despite my good intentions, she’s still Manson and she’s been Mansoning out in a big way lately, including yet another killing rampage at the ranch. So, y’all know the drill. Grab a beverage, get comfy and breathe deep, we have a lot of ground to cover. Where to start?
I guess this is a good jumping off point. Poo and water. Constant themes at the HiCaliber feed lot. They are still having issues with horses having NO WATER. Why? This is from their private forums, but clearly one volunteer is leaving and waters aren’t done despite what Shaw Na Na aka Shawna Ortega claims in the discussion group. There is never a single mention of Manson or any of the other residents with their sleeves rolled up. Nope. It’s all on the volunteers and who cares if they have jobs to get to or obligations of their own? Note that Techie is still hanging out with some fillies. Apparently the 30% vet is operating under the misguided notion that long yearlings can’t procreate. We do know that Techie is listed on their latest adoption event as a cryptorchid, and yes, crypts can reproduce. Then we read that one horse is standing in his pen weaving (Ryland?). I’ve had horses who weave when they are in stalls. Putting them in solitary confinement with no attention, exercise or companionship is not the way to manage that. They need room to move, friends and no stress, which is exactly the opposite of what goes on at HiCaliber. That’s not a happy horse. I guess we better confirm who it is and put him on the death watch because that’s getting close to `behavioral’ in the Manson book of horsemanship. Oh well, at least they attempted to crop most of the shit out of the pictures above. Sadly, that’s not always the case.
Here are some recent pics of the babies that were rescued from the dreaded Sushi pipeline along with a few others. As you can see, they are failing to thrive at the feed lot. It seems all babies that spend any amount of time at HiCaliber end up with those malnutrition bellies and ribs. The water looks fairly low in the one pic, but beyond that it seems they are all just living on hay alone which isn’t great for growing bodies. Poor little Hotshot looks like his belly is about to burst and the others are just pitiful. They shouldn’t have rough coats and no asses. Go over to Ann from Mea Ola’s Place’s post and see what her orphan filly looks like. That’s what a foal should look like. Every single one of these babies looks far worse than when it arrived. They need blood pulled and a proper worming program along with proper nutrition and I don’t mean Thrive.
The one thing about running a shell game is that you need shells. This presented a problem at The Manson Family Tuesday Griftathon this week. There was only one horse at auction and she was in good shape. However, this week featured yet another glorious return of Romney Faye Baker and she mind-melded with Manson to invent the notorious underground lactating mare match racing pipeline. They claimed this little mare was a famous ex match racer that was in foal and recently had a foal pulled off her. This meant she was in grave danger of being returned to match racing despite the fact she is 14 years old and leaking milk all over the place. This also meant they had to run the bid up to over $1000 to save her from continuing to be well cared for apparently. This was only after we were treated to Romney Faye crawling around in the chutes checking the mare’s legs for `dorsal stripes’ at the behest of Manson. Protip for Manson- just look up the meaning of words before you use them. The word `dorsal’ would be a great start.
Because one horse does not fill their weekly quota, Bubba Misner, playing the roll of `well-known flipper’, was quickly dispatched to dredge up something sad. The best he could do on short notice was a sweet old gray gelding that wasn’t all that sad and didn’t really motivate the village idiots to dig deep. Meanwhile Manson decided to wander the chutes and look animals in the eyes. What is it about her looking things in the eyes lately? I swear she’s feeding off their souls or something. Anyhow, despite the fact that she walks past them every time she goes to auction, has a fondness for junk food, AND likely had carne asada for dinner that night, Manson shed tears for food animals and waxed poetic about what a good life the auction pigs had before they went to auction. Then she bought three little steers to drag home and flip if they live. (I think we are supposed to forget that she doesn’t actually like cows and has claimed to be afraid of them in the past) This was all in addition to a trailer full of llamas for a private buyer. I fell in love with one of the llamas as it showed Romney Faye exactly what it thought of her and HiCaliber by repeatedly spitting at her. Good times! BTW, the lactating match racing mare turned out not to be in foal. Shocker, I know!
I don’t normally have a bunch to say about Angrid only because aside from being bitchy, she’s not all that interesting. She’s rarely at the ranch, but lately seems to be taking the point on social media. I’m not sure why that is, but she’s the queen of the latest Facebook closed group where HiCaliber pretends to answer questions from people who ask nicely. Despite her public protestations, Angrid has been actively hunting me for months and this blog has come up in the closed group quite a bit. I guess it has never occurred to her that there may be several moles and how inside they may or may not be. Maybe I’m my own mole. Maybe I’m Robyn. Maybe I’m one of Manson’s personalities. Maybe I’m psychic and me and my Magic 8 Ball are just plucking all this out of the air. You never know, but since HiCaliber doesn’t officially care, let’s carry on, shall we?
I’m not exactly sure why Angrid, on behalf of HiCaliber, feels that they don’t owe anybody an individual accounting of these horses. They are purchased with donated money and I think they do owe an individual accounting of these animals. Then you have this little lie Angrid told. I can’t speak to her motivations, but damn, why lie about something that doesn’t even really matter all that much? Yes, they recycle names. There is proof. None of these horses were official private buyer purchases. If she’s going to say Dawson Redux is a PB horse then why is she listed as for adoption on the website? Oh right, they don’t have time to keep up with that website. You can message the page and they may or may not answer you instead because they are not your bitches!
Does anybody remember that old adage about rats and sinking ships? HiCaliber seems to be bleeding board members lately. I know, I know, it’s not about that for Angrid. It’s about her ambition and I have to say I can’t blame her. Right now, having HiCaliber on your resume is not all that impressive. While we’re at it, I want Angrid who is officially not reading this blog, but actually is, to know that these screen shots didn’t come from the discussion group so there is no need to throw your toys out of the pram and storm off. She threatened to do that if they leaked news of her departure. These are screen shots from HiCaliber’s group instead so everything should be cool. I’m a giver that way.
Here’s a fun little shout out to this blog from Manson and Robyn the House Elf with a special cameo from one of their brilliant volunteers who doesn’t care if they shoot every horse on the place apparently. Manson lies out the lie hole trying to discredit the guest writers on this blog. You know, because everybody is wrong and Manson is right and because nothing is ever her fault. Nobody on this blog has ever made fun of Romney’s child. If anything people have been more than uncomfortable that she continues to use his death to gain sympathy and donations, including an open youcaring page that was donated to as recently as last week. (Don’t worry, I have screen shots if the link goes bad) Also, pointing out that you are too big to be on a horse is not body shaming. It’s facts. If you see me riding around on a Shetland pony, by all means tell me to get my fat ass off it. Common sense and horses first. All that aside, going through a tragedy doesn’t make somebody suddenly a saint. If you were a lying asshole before the tragedy, you are a lying asshole going through a tragedy, so come back down off that cross and start facing up to the mess that you have created, Manson. I’m pretty sure you’ve mixed up a lifetime of fame with notoriety.
Speaking of pants on fire, Manson went on yet another horse shuffling road trip a few days ago. This time it was to Buzz’s to pick up Seymour and April who are adoption returns. They were picked up further north and brought as far as Buzz’s for Manson to go fetch. I think we can all realize that life can throw wrenches and even appreciate that Seymour and April’s people did what they thought was best for these horses. Where my confusion is , is why Manson felt the need to announce their return and lie about the circumstances surrounding it. It gets a bit confusing, but I’ve known these horses needed to come back for a while now. Almost a month in fact. Manson knew too. I don’t know why it took so long for her to get them and it doesn’t matter. Maybe the former family had their board paid up til the end of the month. That wasn’t where the lie was. The lie came in on the whys of the return. You see, there is another HiCaliber horse out there that the adopter has been trying to return for a few months. She was told to place the horse herself and offered no help at all, BUT the reason for that horse needing to be returned all of a sudden became the reason Seymour and April were being returned in Manson’s version of events. Not true and to protect privacy, I wont get into the real reasons, but having a human baby is certainly not the reason Seymour and April came back. I’m confused why she even lied about this because it doesn’t matter, nobody cares and it makes her look bad. I’m also confused why the grand announcement of the return of these two horses other than Manson can’t wait to ride Seymour because she’s still to afraid to ride any of the five horses she owns that are currently living at HiCaliber. Even stranger is she didn’t feel the same need to announce Camilla’s return after less than two weeks in her adoptive home. That’s the thing with these adoption events. They throw up some big numbers initially but they don’t like to say how many come back. It seems like they have a revolving door on the place or something.
Since Manson says this blog has no credibility, let’s get her to back up her shit. These screen shots are from last week. They are all the intakes from 2016 and 2017 that are no longer alive. I’ve never once said they were all shot or all euthanized for no reason. Some died on their own, some were legitimate compassion pulls, but many were none of those things. If I’m lying about their status as far as living or dead, then by all means, point it out and prove me wrong. Show me the horses, but while you’re at it, better make sure to show me the latest three to join these lists. It would seem that Manson has worked out her angst by going on yet another killing spree and I gotta admit, I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around the latest ones. Remember in the screen shot up above how Angrid states that their website is run by volunteers and they don’t always have time to update it right away? You better believe they wasted no time erasing these next three horses off their website and no, Manson didn’t post tributes to them on their Facebook page either. It’s almost like they never happened. Well, not on my watch…
Comfort has reportedly left this earth in the last week or so. I don’t have confirmed details on the hows or whys other than she is gone. She was an owner relinquishment from back in early February of this year. This was a lovely mare that they were riding in parades this summer and as recently as August were advertising her for adoption. No tribute posts of sad goodbyes for Comfort though. RIP Comfort.
Journey reportedly left us this past week as well. I’m not sure if he was part of that horse shuffle that was going on after dark last weekend or what happened to him. I know at one point he was fostered by a person who lives near to where Manson was last week, but I can’t say with any certainty if she picked him up or what happened there. He is no longer on their website or fundraising pages. Rest easy, Journey.
Torrey is also no longer with us. She was only 4 years old and her Jockey Club name was Ide Like Orthodox. Her story is a little more filled in than the other two, having been one of the Louisiana horses. Being so young, Torrey’s tattoo was easily read so she got to at least get her identity back unlike the others from that clusterfuck who still haven’t been identified and likely never will be. In fact, Torrey’s previous owner contacted HiCaliber to tell them she had a chip in her knee and that she had been rehomed as a potential broodmare. Apparently, that didn’t work out too well for as she ended up on Doughboy’s lot. When you think about it, Torrey’s life from that point on, was really not much different from that of any horse in the slaughter pipeline other than her cross-country trip was in a nice van. She basically went from one feed lot to another, stood around with no shelter and often no water and died a premature death. Not sure if she went with a bullet or on her own but the end result was the same. RIP Ide Like Orthodox.
So here we come to the close of yet another blog and I’ll leave this little snack as a lagniappe for Manson because she gives us all so much to work with. In all honestly, I wish she’d give a little less. I know I sound like a broken record, but she can make this all go away. If any of what I said is wrong, then prove it. Don’t just deny it, PROVE IT. Prove these horses aren’t all dead. Prove that a vet signed off on every single one of them that didn’t die on their own. Prove that those aren’t enormous and ever-growing piles of shit surrounding those foals. These are NOT Manson’s personal horses and that ranch is not her personal space. It is part of a non-profit organization that is funded by donations and with that comes some accountability. I don’t want to hear that the troughs aren’t empty `for long’. They should NEVER be empty. If you have horses that are draining them, then get them a bigger trough or a second one. It’s just not that difficult. I would dearly love to put all this to rest and go back to pretending Manson and family don’t exist. The problem is I actually lose a lot of sleep at night over what is going on with the horses at HiCaliber. I can’t imagine lining them up and shooting them for no good reason. How do you look an animal in the eye and blow it away without that changing who you are for the worse? How do you do it once let alone an average of twice a week? You see, Manson has this ego thing going on that if she can’t get along with a horse then nobody can (look up HiCaliber Rux). Just like Manson and Romney Faye think they alone get to decide what a bad backyard is and the irony to that is that HiCaliber is a bad backyard right down to cryptorchid stallions in with mares and fillies. A huge part of the problem is that Manson won’t acknowledge she’s in over her head and that she really has no formal training in any of this. She’s not a horse person, she’s not a business woman. But rather than start yet another Facebook group where you try to bully people from speaking the truth, why not put that energy into fixing what you know is wrong? Why not just prove me wrong? #saytheirnames #showmethehorses
Show us the horses. The receipts. The accountability. Your lifestyle is funded by donor money, as is theirs. So sad to see them wiped off the face of the Earth despite being “saved.”
Sadder still is to see the difference between Michelle way back when, and now.
A time when she WAS considered a steward for the animals.
A time when she WAS accountable, without being asked.
There’s sure a lot of things different between then, and now.
Back then, the animals did seem to come first, rather than an end to a means. I’m sorry it changed, and the horses are, too.
I agree totally with rescues providing receipts and updates on the horses. What I don’t agree with is that Michelle has ever truely been a steward or provided full factual accounts in the past. I think it was a smokescreen in the past and now that she has herself securely placed in the HiCaliber shitshow she’s letting the smoke disapate. I could be wrong she could have been a good person once upon a time and has just let greed overwhelm her.
My opinion of her character doesn’t matter. What matters is ousting her ass out of that secure seat so she doesn’t take advantage of people and use animals for her own personal gain any further.
And I don’t know who does the Photoshop memes, but they rock, every time.
You do know who does them, but it’s not me. I agree they are awesome!
I thought the Lays was an actual ad until I read the bag of dicks part. 😮😂😮
I laughed out loud – it’s hysterical! What do they say? You just can’t eat one?…..right, Manson?
Oh no! Hahaha!
Maybe that’s why she’s so angry, because she hasn’t indulged in that snack item herself for too long now?
She certainly does talk about it a lot for a lesbian…just sayin.
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Angrid had stated in the discussion group, several times, that they don’t have an updated list, but if the BOD have to vote on each and every euth, like Manson tells us repeatedly, then that is utter bullcrap. Alternatively, if they can’t keep track of how many horses have died, been shot, or chemically euth’d, then obviously this ‘rescue’ has a huge problem. #saytheirnames
Ingrid is one of those people that I wonder why more people don’t see through her. She may be ambitious but at what cost? If she continues to climb up the goverment ladder I can only imagine that sooner or later her part and association with HiCaliber will come up. It doesn’t mean anything to step down from the BOD as her part in the shitshow is pretty well documented. Just because posts and comments are scrubed doesn’t mean it is completely erased.
Tell Angrid I provide an updates list all the time. She just has to read over here! If the haters can keep track, why can’t they?
Very good point!
#saytheirnames
In order to make sure horse names are repeated they have to keep track of names and this list has to go all the way back. There is a list. In order to keep track of finances, they have to keep track of when horses are purchased. To make sure horses are getting the correct feed and know where horses are housed, they have to have a current list. The hoof and hay fundraiser caused them to create such a list… hmmmm. Manson creates a record with every intake sheet she does and a list can be created from that.
What have we learned here? There is not just one list or one way a list can be created but many ways. Angrid may not be able to create a list since she’s off site and sees her job to be a roadblock but lists can be created. I worked for a boss who’s number one rule was “Don’t be the problem.” Unfortunately, HC is the problem and the people who are running that place take pride in being a problem.
Look at the current board of directors and not a single one of them is what you would consider an equestrian professional or a captain of industry. It’s the sorriest boart of directors for a horse rescue I’ve ever seen. Not a single one of them really know how to do more than not fall off a horse and given Manson’s summer escapades, that’s kinda hit and miss too.
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By their own bylaws, Manson should be removed from the board.
Article 3 – Board of Directors
Section 11 – Removal
Officers may be removed from their position for reasons such as absenteeism from scheduled meetings without prior notice, complaints of unresolved reports of animal neglect, abuse or abandonment, felonies and serious misdemeanors. Complaints and hearings will be determined by a three-fourths vote of the remaining Board of Directors.
Section 14 – Prohibition against Certain Actions
As long as the Corporation exists, and except with the Board of Directors’ prior approval, no director, officer or committee member of the Corporation may:
a) Engage in any act in violation of these Bylaws or a binding obligation of the Corporation
b) Engage in any act that would make it impossible or unnecessarily difficult to carry on the Corporation’s intended or ordinary business or with intention of harming the Corporation or any of its operations
c) Receive an improper personal benefit from the operation of the Corporation
d) Use the Corporation’s assets, directly or indirectly, for any purpose other than carrying on the Corporation’s business.
e) Wrongfully transfer or dispose of Corporation property, including intangible property such as goodwill
h) Endorse any political parties, or participate in grass roots lobbying as a HICALIBER HORSE RESCUE, INC. representative
Article 4 – Miscellaneous Provisions
Section 1 – Dividends Prohibited
No part of the net income of the Corporation shall inure to the benefit of any private individual and no dividend shall be paid and no part of the income of the Corporation shall be distributed to its directors or officers except as otherwise provided in these Bylaws
Section 3 – Signature of Negotiable Instruments
All bills, notes, checks or other instruments for the payment of money shall be signed by the President, Vice President, Treasurer or Secretary of the Corporation. The signature of any one of the foregoing shall be acceptable for checks of $2,000 or less and the signatures of any two of the foregoing shall be required for checks in excess of $2,000.01
– The above is one reason why they do everything in cash at the auction. That way lazy ass Manson didn’t have to be there with Romney.
Article 5 – Dissolution
Upon dissolution of HICALIBER HORSE RESCUE, INC. any and all monies, equipment and or investments will be donated to another charitable organization qualified as a 501 (c) (3) organization as defined by the Internal Revenue Code as determined by the Board of Directors.
– So, they want to buy the property? If they fail as a rescue that’s going to be one awesome gift the Idiots have bought for some other charity. Under article 5, Manson doesn’t get to have it. If she thinks she can just rewrite the bylaws and keep it, tough luck toots. 23701d (IRC 501(c)(3)) Religious, charitable, scientific, literary, educational, qualified amateur sports, prevention of cruelty to children or animals states: Dedication of assets which requires that in the event of dissolution of an organization, or the impossibility of performing the specific organizational purposes, the assets would continue to be devoted to exempt purposes. Bitch will be Shit Out – O – Luck.
Unless she sells it to herself for $1 before. That board is there to do her bidding. None of them would even dare to say `no’ to her let alone call her on her own bullshit.
She would be in big trouble if she sold the property to herself unless she started a new documented charity and there are plenty of people just waiting to report her on it.
23701d (IRC 501(c)(3)) Religious, charitable, scientific, literary, educational, qualified amateur sports, prevention of cruelty to children or animals
• No part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder.
Under the bylaws there is this: e) Wrongfully transfer or dispose of Corporation property, including intangible property such as goodwill
Both would prohibit the property from being sold to her.
I wonder if they realize this?
When the filing organization knows the donor’s identity, but the donor wishes to remain anonymous, the IRS official (who was speaking at an ABA Tax Section meeting) stated that the filing organization must disclose the donor’s name on form 990, Schedule B. Even though Schedule B is not disclosable to the public. This applies to major donors, usually $5,000+
It will be interesting to see how they pull it off.
No individual accounting? Hmm, law is really great. It is simple and fine tuned for those who would like to just let it all hang out and just let whatever happen real fluidly. Specifically, law is for criminals. The rest of us are honest and use common sense, live with honor and selflessly. Angrid (Ingrate), you are aware that in California, attorneys operate under an ethical rule that is enforceable? Did you read the laws controlling nonprofit/charities? I think your statement and sleazy justification should be reviewed. You do not deserve the role of attorney of law. Going back to New York or wherever the hell you came from? Leaving the foster dog? All of this could have been repaired, horses could be care for, the public saved from this mess of offensive barbarisms from the moment you stepped over the threshhold and into the fray. If you had been the ethical officer of the court you swore to be. You disgust me. What you do seem suited for is a corrupt and bureaucratic nitwit.
Comfort? Seriously? That just makes me sick ☹
It’s not a good start to the day to see this news. It’s just cruel and barbaric. Manson is a monster.
It’s hard to believe that Comfort, Journey and Torrey all had medical issues the ended in natural deaths or required euthanasia. You would also think that for a rescue that documents every burp and fart of its founder, losing 3 horses in a short period of time would be newsworthy. At least here their passing is acknowledged.
Exactly so. How do the hard core volunteers reconcile this? They are super dramatic and sad about losing some horses, like Mirage, then pretend that horses like Comfort, Journey & Torrey never existed.
That’s what doesn’t compute with me. Why do some get the big send off and others just get snuffed out and erased? The only explanation I could come up with is that she `mourns’ the ones that she can’t get away with erasing. She made a big of Mirage because she had raked in a lot of donations for that surgery and people wanted updates on her all the time. She couldn’t hide that one, yet the three I mentioned today weren’t really high on anybody’s radar. Easy enough for them to slip away and then months later when maybe one person asks after them they can say `Oh yeah, that one went neuro’ or whatever BS excuse she comes up with but won’t reveal they all went near the same time.
I was just going to say that about Mirage. I think over $4,000 was raised for her 2 needed “surgeries”. She passed after the first one; I truly feel from improper post-op care. Never was the cost shown for that surgery. What donated funds were left? Yes, they had to account for her status as many were watching. Why was this horse in such bad shape and Manson is in her car making a tear-filled video? She should have been with the horse! The grieving picture was just too much. RIP Mirage. Many tried to help.
I agree that it didn’t seem like she had proper follow up after such a big surgery. I didn’t buy Manson’s tears for a single second on that one.
Yes, but wasn’t it great for them that Mirage died before they had to spend any more money on another surgery? Were any of the village idiots given a refund? They donated specifically for her surgery and they Manson brought her home early to avoid extra hospital charges. Then a village idiot fed her the wrong feed and she was going without water so she developed colic. Did Manson rush Mirage back to the vet? Nope because that would have been expensive. Instead she waited it out long enough for Mirage to get past the point of no return and in her condition she died once Manson finally got her to the vet. Manson then gets to pocket the remainder of the surgery money and has one less horse to feed & maintain which is exactly what she needs.
Manson’s record of treating colics isn’t very good. She usually waits too long and loses the horse. I don’t think she really understands or knows much about colic and the different kinds. Gas colic, you can wait on, but an impaction you better not waste time on or drug them into masking the pain. Then you really are in trouble when it all wears off which is what I suspect happened with Mirage from the condition she was in on the video clip. A horse just doesn’t go from zero to that level of pain within minutes. Of course, they also had different volunteers cleaning her stall, when it was cleaned at all and it makes it quite difficult to keep track of what she is passing for manure and its consistency. That’s not a slam on the volunteers either. Manson should have gotten off her ass and managed that mare’s follow up herself if she is the medical director.
It would have been difficult to return the donations because they had that one lady make a major donation and the rest were smaller donations. How do you figure who gets what back?
As for figuring how much to give each person back, take the cost of the remaining procedure, assess what percentage each person donated to the total and apply that to the remaining. Then go through the effort of contacting the people and ask if they would like a refund. Most of the percentages will be very small and most of the people will probably say to keep the donation and apply it somewhere else or maybe to another specific horse. The thing is, giving the donors the option is the right thing to do. Give the donors the option to pay for the vet visit for her colic or their new favorite horse of the week. If I’m not mistaken, Rene was online asking for more money under her trophy shot while they smiled like goons. They can ask for more and more money but they can’t be a good steward of what they’ve already received?
They always put it back on the person to ask for their money back, just like if you want a tax receipt you have to ask them for it or used to. I recall seeing those posts around tax time this year.
The Comfort one bothers me a lot because they had been regularly riding her, and she was VERY obviously sore in videos. Can’t help but wonder if she would have been fine if they’d have just left her alone or tried to find a companion home. Instead, she had to pack them around at parades and all over the place while in pain.
I can’t watch the grandstanding and self serving behaviors. Did she look sore in the hips or feet? I’m sure the inconsistancies in exercise didn’t help and being older she probably had some arthritis. Definitely not a death sentence. Heaven forbid they call a real veterinarian and get a real opinion of what’s going on.
#HiCaliberComfort
Somebody that has been on the ranch commented that she had ulcers and was often uncomfortable. I do know that inconsistent exercise with the inability to move around can make any horse stiffen up, and she was in her 20’s. Just another senseless death due to mismanagement at HiCal.
Thanks for the reminder. It’s something that shouldn’t have happened. She looked to be a lovely soul.
I saw your comment on FireTyme on HiCaliber’s web page. He’s got some weight and a bit of a belly. I hope he goes to a good home.
Me too. I especially hope he gets out of there before he has to put up with packing one of those assholes around in ill fitting tack.
Sigh…how big is that pen the foals are in???
Manure aside, they could probably use a bit more room, maybe like an acre to run and loosen up. Of course with some vitamins and wormer as well. Maybe a bit less alfalfa? Epiphysitis anyone?
It’s a 24×24 stud pen. I just hope it doesn’t rain while they are still in there. It usually becomes a swimming pool because all the water drains directly into that pen
They must be doing the `quarantine’ for some PBs because I could have have sworn a couple of them were already spoken for like that gray.
It’s a bad spot for sure. All the water from the top drains, or rather, runs down the hill and lands right at that pen.
Which must mean it leaches through all of that poo mountain as well
I was thinking recently, they didn’t have this many horses (although still had too many) through the last rains and it was already a muddy disaster. If they continue having this many horses, no shelters, etc – they better be hoping we go back into a drought.
It’s frightening to think of. They lost a few down in that mud too.
That pen that those foals are in is a 24×24 with a 8×8 shelter. So sad!
I think a few of them were spoken for, at least that’s what they thought, until Mich attacked them for wanting to save the foals.
Imagine that…someone being turned down to save a horse by HiC?
They turn back a lot of people. You could have the best home in the world and if Manson perceives you to be a `hater’ she will shoot a horse rather than let you have one. Not a horse first situation as far as adoptions go.
foals still have their duct tape hip-tags on of course…over 3 weeks now…kinda like Fauna, who’s still wearing her neck-tag 4 months after being dragged cross-country from Satan’s pigpen
Ingrid has left the new group. We all know she did that looking for an excuse to leave, anyway.
Wish I could say that I am surprised by this but I’m not.
LOL!! I TOLD her they weren’t the leaky ones.
In all honesty, I think she was looking for an excuse to leave that group. Just a hunch.
She certainly wasn’t helping matters with her non answers and lies.
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What job was Angrid asked to apply for that excludes being on the board of a non-profit. Senior Waterboarding Technician?
Seriously, she is ambitchous AF.
Based on what she wrote, she is most likely taking a position in Washington D.C. It’s where all the Federal Blue Flamers wind up for a few years to be reprogrammed and sent back to the field to torture the Boots on the Ground hard working employees.
Good riddance to her.
I hope she goes fully “vetted” with her hooves and teeth recently done. Or is it talons in this case?
I believe hooves, even though they are cloven.
😈😇😈
#HiCaliberAngrid will soon be on her way to OLGH, One Last Grifter Home. Of course, no funds will transfer with her because the Lash n’ Lips Fund is running low. We hope she continues to plan inappropriate fundraisers for the next 6 years until we finally make money from them. There will be no more updates on #HiCaliberAngrid because 1. There’s no Facebook at black sites and 2. We aren’t your bitch.
LMAO!!!!!
Whoever she was sneaking around with that was married will have to find another side piece now. Angrid will hit the ground trolling wherever she ends up. If it’s DC, I don’t thing the Angrid roadblock bitch show will go over very well.
That’s the thing about side pieces. It’s not like they have to hang out with her much. Just get her to do the stuff the wife won’t, maybe buy her the odd meal or scarf and call it good.
Nice one, ToServeHorse!
Ambitchous!! Love it!
So M looks into the eyes of those horses on the Thompson’s trailer (not) and drums up sympathy donations to save them? And then she looks into the eyes of the cows and pigs at auction and drums up sympathy donations to save them? I just want to know if she looks into the eyes of the horses she shoots every week? Seems a bit hypocritical to me. Please make it stop…..🙁
Right there with you. Manson is just a killer and needs to get them off the feed bill because she can’t afford them. At this point I don’t think she even likes them because there is no chemistry that comes through on the videos of her with the animals. Maybe that’s why she does so few. I don’t get how the village idiots can be okay with the situation. They get so worked up when there’s a horse to save, OMG! it’s soooo skinny! Poor Baby, it’s limping! I’m crying, it looks so sad and see how dirty it is! If they just took a moment and thought for themselves they would see the horses back at the ranch are in no better condition and a lot of the time they are in worse condition. They can’t stand for a horse to belong to anyone other than HiCaliber or it’s a tragedy. On the flip side, once HC has the horse, it can be drugged, starved, left without water or shade, denied medical attention, experimented on, ridden when lame, ridden in ill-fitted tack by riders that are too heavy, put in herds inappropriate for them, denied good homes and shot for financial reasons – and the village idiots don’t care. It’s time the idiots start thinking for themselves and stop being idiots.
Until then, they should stick to Breyers and move to the Hamlet.
Manson is just a flat out killer working a money making scam. What I don’t get are the village idiots & volunteers. It’s a tragedy unless HC owns every horse they are shown. OMG, that horse is too skinny! Poor baby, that horse is terrified and so dirty! How awful, that horse is limping and they’re going to ride it at auction! I’m crying, that horse is drugged – but look, it has a BFF so we have to have that one too! On the flip side, once the horse passes through auction, it’s immediately drugged by the HC team, stands in the trailer for hours with no water so they can drink and wait for more horses to scam the viewers with. Back at the ranch the horses can be starved, left with no water or shade, drugged some more and denied real vet care or just flat out denied medical attention at all, ridden in ill-fitting tack by riders too big for them, ridden when lame, left to develop bad habits, put into herds inappropriate for them, denied adoption to good homes and shot for financial reasons – and the idiots and volunteers aren’t screaming bloody murder or making a peep about it. They encourage Manson to shoot horses because that would be better than being purchased by someone else that would take the horse home and feed it, take care of it and not shoot it? So what if it’s back at auction a couple of weeks later. It’s still alive and that’s better than it’s chances would have been with Manson.
For now, the village is full of idiots and they should stick to Breyer’s and move on over to the Hamlet. The living, breathing horses would be safer and you might just learn a thing or two.
I’m as sad seeing any horse having to go home with them as I am when a kill buyer gets it. When Misner gets one over them I think `oh well at least that one has a chance now’. How messed up is that?
I feel the same way. I pray for pb and other rescues to out bid them and take them instead.
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The video, omg. Enjoy your 5 minutes of fame because I’ve got a lifetime of it? She really thinks fame is what motivated Ann to speak out? That way of thinking reveals a lot, i.e. that is how YOU think, Manson, so you attribute that motivation to others.
I think she is confusing fame with infamy.
She’ll have a lifetime of fame alright, it just won’t be for the reason she believes…
The only fame she receives is how those horses are kept. Pictures tell it all. Her video rants, the vulgar way she portrays herself.
Her lack of business skills.
The place is so rundown. Those poor horses.
The killing field.
Why do this if it’s all for the wrong reasons.
She will never shine. Her fame is dark. .
Shed,
Have I told you lately that I love you? You hit it out of the ballpark today! Michelle, is a disgusting, lying bitch. I can’t tell if Angrid is lying or just plain stupid. I’m guessing a little of both. She makes a dramatic post about leaving a group because she was “betrayed” when the truth is, the group was public, and that post was out there for the world to see.
These people give me a headache, as do the usual suspects who like to cry and whine about hiring a lawyer because everyone is so darn mean.
Carry on, Shed! Eventually, the horses will benefit from this. For now, I just hope the horses at the ranch have water…
XO
If she paid attention she would realize the screen shot of her exit came from a different group.
Looking at that photo of the foals it looks like there isn’t any water in their trough. It certainly isn’t full for that amount of babies.
I’m especially sad about Torrey because I remember how her story was revealed. The previous owner thought he’d placed her in an appropriate home and he cared about her not racing again. The village idiots attacked him for anything and everything, including the name of the racing stables she came from. Why on earth would they shoot this young, beautiful mare that could’ve transitioned to a riding horse? Is there any more info?
I had hoped that something good was going to happen when Torrey’s previous previous owner stepped forward. I don’t see any rhyme or reason behind any of these three dying. It’s so sad.
Oops! only one previous needed.
Torrey’s former owner was attacked by the village idiots. I know one of her breeders who is good person. That filly could have landed softly if given a chance. There was no earthly reason she needed to be hauled across the country to die.
That poor guy didn’t deserve an attack. It seemed that he was upset and wanted to do the right thing. There wasn’t any reason for Torrey to die period in my opinion.
Look at Journey… Even super skinny he was a nice looking horse. What? Did he not thrive? Comfort? She did not look 22. I’ve heard Charles Wilhem has some horses that are ridden at 30 by adults. That’s something to think about.
Even if a horse is no longer physically sound it doesn’t mean their mind isn’t. It doesn’t mean they don’t have a lot to offer.
So ironically, the only one of the horses to come out of the Thompson lot who “got their identity back” and “had their story told” quickly and quietly had their identity and story forgotten.
Not forgotten, erased. Now they are trying to pass Firetyme off as a TB on their website.
It’s ironic in a very morose sort of a way. I find the term “hater” incongruous with our feelings and actions.
Torrey would have forgotten if not for Shed and the blog. Many of these horses would have been forgotten if not for you and others.
Thank you, again, for speaking out for the voiceless. That last paragraph sums it up perfectly. It is simple. Prove Shedrow wrong.
Those foals look bad. Once again they had no plan in place for what to do with them after they got them back to the feedlot. They totally fucked over the person who wanted three, that would have three to a good home, for what. Village Mouthbreathers answer that question, Manson’s ego? What other answer is there. Her arrogance is epic.
Manson absolutely will not own up to the consequences of her actions. It is always someone else’s doing and no one else is afforded any respect. Her place is a nightmare for her adjoining neighbors, the runoff and leaching of all that manure contaminates other people wells not to mention any creeks that might be affected. But those things don’t matter to her. It’s all about her and her personal agenda.
She is always the underdog persecuted for her weight and her sexual preference denied the right to a decent lifestyle and ridiculed for her “edgy” behavior. The Village Mouthbreathers eat it up, maybe they feel a comradely and have experienced these things in their lives, if so find another hero to worship she is not worthy. Killing and mistreating innocent horses to feel powerful is sick, she needs to be stopped. It can’t happen fast enough.
Those weanlings break my heart. Hope they are on good parasite control…as if…
#HisnamewasThomas
#Ide Like Orthodox
#sayALLtheirnames
I see the horse I named on the adoption list after over a year. I hope she gets adopted because if not I’m afraid she will meet the bullet.
I’ll hope with you. ❤
Another informative post!
Forgot to check notify.
Another excellent one Shed. I’m so sad reading yet more names of horses killed by that ego maniacal scum-bag Manson. There aren’t bad enough words to ascribe to her, honestly. And I hope Angrid gets her due as well.
I love how Manson twists everything written here and completely ignores the fact that she could easily prove all of this as lies, if only they were. But she can’t so she misdirects and lies even more. Keep digging that hole Manson, and all your idiot partners in this will fit down there with you.
When I left the rescue, which wasn’t that long ago, I stood there next to the actual vet and heard them say how healthy journey was and his legs looked good too (which Manson said looked terrible) the vet said he could have a good life as a pasture pet or maybe a kids horse that you just let them walk around for a bit. He was such a sweet horse, I can’t believe he is gone. Same with comfort she was the sweetest little mare.
Wow, that makes me even more sad. 😦
Me too. 😢
This is tragic. And infuriating to considering Manson took their voices from them, then killed them to keep them ever speaking again. Manson – you will pay. You already are. Feel it?
The funny thing is with a little TLC sometimes miracles happen. The really shitty side to that coin is now we’ll never know.
I’m sorry. I know I thought I was doing something helpful and good there once.
A lot of really good people have come and gone from that rescue. There are still some really good people there that feel a real obligation to those animals. The village idiots that I refer to are the bean flickers like Sheila, Jill and the other keyboard warriors that do nothing but guard social media and stir up drama. I’m not even sure either of them donate more than the odd $10 here and there. I’m sure they’ve cost HiCaliber more in donations just by being bitches to anybody that dares to ask a question on the HiCal FB page.
It’s sad to think about. They are better people than I am to rough it out. That’s for sure. ❤
Please! don’t beetlejuice the twits! Please!
Most of them are filtered over here so when they do try to post, it goes straight to spam. LOL They all got a chance to be civil and a few warnings. They couldn’t behave, so now they are on time outs.
Lol!
I want so badly to fix up those poor foals 😦 This makes me especially sad because I had a friend offer cash for one of them and was basically ignored on the live feed and in PMs.
They ignored a few people it seems and I really don’t get that at all.
I don’t think they wanted buyers for the foals so they could collect $650 each for them.
A lot of the time it really seems like a hoarder situation. They want to keep the ones that are “cute”, they’ve said on auction live feeds how they hope they can get a certain horse because they like it so much – not necessarily that it actually needed “saving”. They believe they are the only “good” home out there.
And instead they are the bad backyard! Breeding horse’s. Bitch Please….you are no rescue, you are shameful!!! This really gets to me. What rescue breeds rescue horses??? To make that much worse she was a AC officer! Wouldn’t you think you’d know better?
She’s even worse than that. She breeds her own horses to create `mutts’ that she doesn’t even bother to wean, let alone train. They are exactly the kind of horses that end up on a plate.
*sigh*
I don’t want to seem argumentative but is it hoarding or flipping done wrong. I see them getting all the pretty horses to flip but they are either too lazy, cheap or paranoid to get them moved until things start going wrong behaviorally, physically or Michelle gets twitchy.
I don’t understand how anyone can look at that list of dead horses and still support HC.
There is nothing that can justify killing all these horses.
This is not rescue, it’s slaughter!
Grace~ it makes no sense whatsoever.
Ingrid must be seriously dense. She was looking for a way out of that group. The post she made in the discussion group had a mini rant in the middle and she ended her diatribe with talking about how she was an intern at The White House and worked on a presidential campaign. Yet here she as the lying point guard for HC. That’s some serious ambition for you!
I think it’s hilarious. It was pretty clear that screen shots didn’t come from that group.
Ha! That’s hilarious and a very good point.
Remember the milk carton horse that HC provided information on almost immediately? I’m thinking if they had any REAL proof that the list is wrong they would be plastering it all over the place to refute the claims. Instead they respond with insults, in other words the last resort of a person unable to counter an assertion with facts.
That’s what I’m thinking. If I was in their place, i would jump at the chance to prove me wrong. If you notice, when they try to discredit me, it’s always that they don’t like the insults. They can’t really dispute the screen shots and their own words. I’m just here holding a mirror up for them. I can’t help it that they don’t like what they see.
Even our insults are pretty factual based… Honestly, the worst insults thrown down here are tame in comparison to Michelle and her masses.
In my World that’s known as brutal honesty.
If she’s insulted by what I say, perhaps she needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.
I think what’s really hurting Michelle’s feelings is her pocket book is feeling a little lighter each week.
There is nothing wrong with brutal honesty. Some days you need that little wake up.
I’m sure her pocket books is feeling a whole bunch lighter since she lost her spousal support a few months ago too.
Well, that’s on her too isn’t it? I’ve just heard gossip as to why but I was under the impression that once awarded and enforced it is generally not taken away unless you remarry. It’s based on income criteria correct? Maybe she has to pay her ex some sort of support.
contrary to what she says I don’t know of anybody that was actually hanging out at court to see what was really going on. I don’t know what it was based on but I do know that rent and other perks she gets from the rescue is payment in kind and considered income.
Sitting in court is not my idea of a good time. I’m just basing my questions on personal experience.
@Not drinking that Coolaide Spousal support is usually granted by a judge for a certain period of time, example for 10yrs after the divorce or until remarried. I opted to take a lump sum for mine cause he offered otherwise he would have paid me monthly for several years. I’m guessing the time limit for hers just hit the end so it wasn’t “taken away”.
I think it was more of a case that she lives with Bang Bang Becky which would be basically a common law marriage.
Gotcha! I didn’t realize there was a time limit. Thanks for the info!
Interesting. Of course one of those “Haters” that showed up at the hearing would already have all the information. (Said very much tongue in cheek)
I think you’re on the right line of thought Shed, about the ending of the spousal support. Manson may have done her own self in by constantly saying she has no income and BBB provides *everything* for her and her family. That in writing, by her own admission, may have done it. But this is purely conjecture on my part. I don’t want some village idiot coming on her and saying I’m making up lies and calling it the truth after all!
I do know that living rent free would be considered as `income’ as well. Taxable income actually.
not surprising in post about water-issues, the guineas had no food in their pan or food jar….the person filled it & they came running & started arguing who got to eat first. So from large to small animal inmates at HC, there’s little concern if they have water OR food. When someone remembers to feed, they’re so hungry that they fight. Awesome.
It’s not about the animals it’s about Manson’s lifestyle. To her it is a business, she makes a living scamming people out of their money claiming she is using their dollars to rescue horses or whatever she can muster up a tear for.
If it were about the animals every live feed wouldn’t be about her! The animals would have water 💦 with a functioning dependable water system. She wouldn’t be killing viable adoptable horses and blowing off viable adoptees. She would be networking with other rescues rather than alienating them.
This organization is beyond repair, it’s a nightmare masquerading as rescue.
Could not have said it better myself.
At what point will the hoarding madness stop?
The Pollyanna in my had homes that she’d want to turn this thing around and stop on her own. I no longer think that. Hopefully, things wont get too much worse before somebody intervenes.
I no longer think that also.
The more videos she is posting, she is showing she is getting more unstable.
The hoarding issues. She couldn’t leave the auction without fulfilling that need she needs to buy more.
If you notice it’s all about how nobody is going to stop her from living HER dream. Nothing about the animals, nothing about doing what’s right, it’s all about HER and HER lifestyle. She barely mentions horses ni most of her live feeds.
Those poor little ones are breaking my heart… That little appy. Poor little tanner.
Too bad someone articulate and who writes well couldn’t compile information on this foal sushi scam (with pictures) and submit it to the producers of 60 minutes.
Just sayin’ 😀
The San Diego Reader back in the day used to have great writers who did great exposes. Not sure if they are still known for that.
Hotspot has been adopted, even though his name is on the Green monster adoption event. Poor guy, the sooner the better.
Hotshot? I hope his new owners get him properly vetted and on an appropriate feeding program.
#Hotshot
I’m glad to hear he’s been adopted. Not I’m going to try and manifest a positive outcome for the rest. 😀
I’m glad to hear he’s been adopted. Now I’m going to try and manifest a positive outcome for the rest. 😀
I have a friend who writes for the San Diego Reader and City Beat. May be worth it to contact them to see if they are interested.
Please do!
😀
“The horses relinquished to HiCaliber certainly don’t have great survival rate. Thankfully Dallion recently made it out alive.” Shedrow
What a cute guy! I did a little search to see who you were talking about and couldn’t find any intake or owner surrender story. Isn’t that just typical? Is it me or is he looking too thin for his 16.2 hands? It would be interesting to see him in a month.
With a 25% euthanasia rate for horses at HiCaliber any horse getting out is a lucky horse!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1444827392265926&id=355518451196831
Dallion was an owner relinquishment. His savign grace was probably that he was an uncomplicated horse to ride and they could trail ride him and take him to parades. He had lost quite a bit of condition recently, so glad he did get out.
Speaking of… Seymore and April are beautiful. It had to break someones heart to relinquish them. I don’t need detail on why but isn’t there a clause in the HiCaliber contract about having to be returned to them? Not like HiCaliber does follow-ups very often but I’m sure HiCaliber would make things difficult if they were found rehomed.
#saythiernames
#letthosehorsesgo
Yes, pretty much every rescue has that clause in place. I don’t think HiCaliber actually does regular follow ups with any of their horses though. I think it’s kinda voluntary on the new home’s part.
Very sad, as usual. I always feel sorry for the babies when they get them. What does happen to people that they become blinded to what a horse really looks like that is standing right in front of them? From someone with a lot of experience rehabbing horses, I don’t understand how they can’t see the condition? There are a few possibilities..
1) They are so ignorant that they really don’t know the difference between healthy and thriving, and not healthy and not thriving
2) they really don’t know how to get them healthy
3) They are so busy that they can’t stay on track with regular deworming and several feedings a day. Babies especially need to have many meals a day that are quality meals and should have free choice hay (such as Bermuda or Orchard) so they don’t get bored or hungry and eat sand. I’d be willing to bet most of those babies are full of sand, along with worms. Let’s just say they did deworm them properly…they can’t get the proper nutrition with bellies full of sand and dirt either.
4) They have turned just like Starlight did and believe that 2 meals a day of just hay is better than what they faced before they “rescued” them and they don’t owe them anything else.
In 20 years of rehabbing horses, I have yet to NOT see a big difference in weight, coat, and overall appearance at the 3 week mark. Granted, the emaciated and unhealthy horses take a couple of months or more to get “just right”…but in just 3 weeks, a drastic difference is always apparent. Even if a horse has bad teeth! Our protocol involves soaking feed…even for babies…
It really isn’t rocket science and I am sure that they know this. Anyone should be extremely leary about a rescue that does not provide quality care above quantity of horses “saved”. Do a little research and let history be your guide. Please find a rescue that touted giant numbers year in and year out and see how long they actually lasted before being found out as no better than hoarders.
Damn, Comfort really Manson WTF? Did she look at you wrong? Was she still kicking at her stomach because of possible ulcers & instead of spending money on treating her you decided a bullet was easier? You are totally fucked up in the head.
RIP COMFORT, I hope the love I gave you the day I met you remained in your head and not the image of that horrible monster as your life was being taken.
Excellent post 😄
On the horror page are some pics that are allegedly Firetyme. And another volunteer quit after five days and she included pics of some of the awful conditions at Hikill feedlot
I’m glad to see him looking better. Too bad they had to be shamed into helping him or ever let him get as bad as he was. I wonder why they aren’t bragging about his condition now? They have one horse that gained weight, that’s huge for them.
I’m thinking it’s going to be one of there “Shed is wrong” moments and they’re saving him for the big release. But if it wasn’t for this blog, he may have ended up being a milk carton horse.
I’m glad he’s doing better. I still have pics of him when he wasn’t. My whole point of all of this is for those horses to be better cared about so at least it worked for one.
Right. So kill 3 who were loved and hide the recovery of one who so many were concerned for. This rescue is a head playing mess.
Yup, she’s a sick specimen for sure.
There are so many horses I can’t keep up. How many horses have had updates from the Louisiana shit show? We know that Torrey is decomposing in a landfill. Firethyme has had his pictures recently leaked. Willey is now doing well somewhere else. (I’m Having a moment so help out with names…) They lost a little filly but how is the mare? Floyd was a LA horse right?
So that leaves 32 horses? Way to tell those stories!
Yup, Flloyd was on the first load. Gideon is dead too.
Why is they have to hide a horse and focus on only one for it to maybe improve over a time frame that is longer than it should take? Why can’t they just provide the care each horse needs and to be healthy in body and mind and then adopt them out without playing games?
I have no idea. I would think they would be working overtime to prove everybody wrong, but it seems like they are just working to prove us all right.
Thanks Shed, so then that’s 31 horses that came in 4-5 months ago that HiCaliber volunteers or HiCaliber itself cannot update on because they are too busy taking care of the horses needs or Michelle isn’t our bitch?
#ProveMeWrongBitch
#HiCaliberDragon
On the horror page are some pics that are allegedly Firetyme. And another volunteer quit after five days and she included pics of some of the awful conditions at Hikill feedlot. Two separate recent posts.
The “HiCaliber Discussion” group just proved even more that the people answering questions for HiCaliber know nothing about what’s actually happening. Neither Rene nor Ingrid are regularly on-site, so I put no weight into their answers about day-to-day horse care at the ranch. Some volunteers answered and that made it even more clear that none of the actual residents of the ranch do anything. I’m guessing several of those volunteers are not horse people and wouldn’t notice real problems (or flymasks digging into faces, etc.).
P.S. on that one screenshot about watering, they said they started with the babies, right? The babies that are being “quarantined”? Great.
I think that the babies have a separate hose but it is long enough to reach other pens. So if they don’t think and drag it around that’s a potential problem. Come on! It’ll be fine if you don’t dunk it in the troughs!
Good catch. Yeah that would have been the case. I think a good majority of the volunteers only know what Manson has taught them about horses and given her level of horsemanship, that’s not much.
Still waiting for updates on Dragon. I know Manson just loves that I keep asking about him. Hate to tell you Manson it’s not because I’m butt hurt that I’m not part of your “in crowd”. I “jumped ship” because your a psychotic drug using horse murderer. Say what you want, twist my word, screenshot I don’t give a rats ass. You don’t scar me!
So how about an update on Dragon? Prove to everyone he hasn’t taken a bullet yet.
She’s not your bitch!
LOL!
I have a very sincere question to the HCHR staff and it’s their input I’m seeking.
I want to know since HCHR is NOT a sanctuary and has never claimed it was a sanctuary (and that is fine), WHY do you keep bringing sanctuary needing horses to the ranch? I understand that they need a soft landing and I’m all for that wholeheartedly. But you know you can’t place them in homes yet you bring them anyway and then claim the we’re not a sanctuary card?
I want an honest, straightforward, logical, civilized answer, not a profanity laced, hate filled rant,
Susan.
I can’t answer for them but part of the problem I see is that they do not know how to promote their horses. They way overprice the riding ones and being drunk at a parade with improperly tied rope halters impresses nobody. Groom them, pull the manes of your English horses, FEED them and put somebody on them that can show them off or at least be on the correct lead. Then actually post about them until we’re sick of seeing them rather than these ridiculous and vulgar live feeds where Manson and her house elf drive around eating junk food.
Bingo!
They are all over the map with their pricing on those horses. It makes no sense at all. I know of several they could’ve adopted out easily if they were willing to take $1500 to $2000 for the particular horses. So stupid. And even those prices are high in my opinion, for what you would be buying.
They don’t have a horse on that property worth more than 2k. Manson figures if they keep them longer and put `training’ into them they are worth more. I’d say the longer they’ve had those gunsels flopping around on them teaching them to go inverted and other bad habits, they are worth less. She’d do herself a favor to move them out immediately if there is interest.
If anything they become less valuable the longer they are in Manson’s possession, imo.
Ir’s hard to properly market horses ridden in parades that are, by their own admissions, drugged.
Put the time into them, Michelle. Work with them. Acclimate and desensitize them.
Orherwise, innocent people unaware of your antics will adopt (or try to, at least) and then wonder why the docIle horse they saw in the parade is nowhere in sight when they bring them home and they’ve got a thin, stressed, flighty horse on their hands, nowhere suited for beginners.
You’re doing the horses no favors in more ways than one.
just to let you know.. Echo, who is on your list of horses, was adopted by Bri Alvarez..
Look in this post. The name Echo was used twice. The first was a bay Arab (photo above with the name on it), who was euthanized.
Just to let you know Jamie, I (amoung others) appreciate the time it took to compile and cross reference that list. It had to be hard to see all those faces, read the bios and wonder if the reasons they died where valid.
thank you..
Yes, thank you Jamie. What a saddening list to have to compile. Thank you for being their voice, since HiKill never will be.
I got “credit” on one of the Facebook pages for the list – while I do have one, I know I’m not the only one who has done that, because there were names I had missed! It’s sad to go through because of all the horses everyone just forgets about. It also shows how ridiculous it is that HiCaliber says it would be too much work for them to compile a list of the horses they currently have. Hard to understand how they keep track of everyone, then?
I’m sorry! I don’t follow any other groups but had thought we (the haters) had discussed the list here. I remember another person was compliling something else by date?
So thanks to everyone who has done lists and shared thoughts or experiences! It’s the small streams that make a mighty river. 😉
Several people have worked to try to keep the horses taken in by HiCaliber from being forgotten. I feel like it is at least making them be a little more accountable for what happens to them.
Most definitely, I’m going to say again that I enjoy reading everyone’s opinions and commentary. Some make me laugh, others cry and many things that are shared just piss me the fuck off. The lists are something I’ve cried over and just piss me off. I am personally having a hard time reconciling my thoughts over this last spree of horses that I have never met but feel like it’s a tragic loss.
Thanks. I was aware of that. There was another Echo though. A bay gelding and he was shot int he head. Read the post and it shows pictures and descriptions of both Echos.
thank you.. missed that part of the post..
So basically they gave their supporters just about 2 weeks to come up with funds for the permit.(s) Didn’t give them much time did she? It takes a few days to collect that money I hear so not counting that time.
Someone finally said what everyone’s thinking about not going to auction till this is dealt with. Honestly I think if they come up with the money it’s gonna be out of their own wallets because I think that their supporters have about had it with them, and not being willing to show proof of cost for the permit(s) has bitten them in the ass.
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HiCaliber Horse Rescue
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https://www.youcaring.com/hicaliberhorserescue-958394
Our transparency just cost us thousands of dollars – DAMN IT and HELP!
It’s no secret that HiCaliber is facing one of our biggest trials in a while: the county is requiring new very costly zoning permits for us to continue operation. Without them, we may be forced to close our doors!
Without these permits, our horses will need to be ripped from their herds and dispersed or worse, euthanized.
We don’t have much time left.
A week ago we launching a YouCaring fund for the process which is expected to cost about $17,000, with an immediate need of $8,969 to file the permit applications.
The buzz began and people wanted to see documentation. So we pulled the applications and realized we blew it. The initial need is NOT $8,969 (Ingrid is pretty, smart and has a great rack, but 3am math computations aren’t always her forte) but rather $10,669! Eek! Plus, we need an immediate $2K for the permit expeditor who is handling the very cumbersome and complicated process for us while we tend to our rescues.
**There is not documentation to support the additional $4,000 needed, but this is the figure the county told us to be prepared to pay for additional costs that will be incurred through the application process.**
If you’re just tuning in, HiCaliber is battling a change in our zoning. It’s far from sexy, but we have to deal with this or our fight to save slaughter-bound, abused and neglected horses is over.
Thanks to zoning regulations that changed a few years ago, HiCaliber, and nearly every rescue in unincorporated San Diego County are operating without the proper permits. Instead of being classified as “horse keepers” which does not require special permitting, we (like most rescues) are being re-classified as “horse stables.”
We argued our “horse keepers” status all the way to the top but have exhausted all our options: we have no choice but to obtain the proper permits or else we have to shut our doors. Without these permits, their fate remains unknown.
You all blew us away by giving almost $6,880 with our first ask. We have to hit another $5,789 before October 10th to meet the first set of deadlines and let the county know we are serious about complying.
WE NEED YOUR HELP!
We know it’s not sexy. We know giving toward paperwork doesn’t make anyone warm and fuzzy. But getting this handled is a real part of saving lives… and will leave our doors open to go on to save hundreds, if not thousands, more.
You all have given what you can. NOW is the time to share the plight of HiCaliber and the horses we’re saving with your friends, families, coworkers and companies!
Whatever amount you can give – whether $5, $50, $500 or $5,000 – is appreciated. There’s no question we’ve got a battle before us, but we’re up for the fight.
Will you join us?
https://www.youcaring.com/hicaliberhorserescue-958394
**If you represent a corporation who would like to help sponsor this process, we welcome you to the table and would love to help put together a benefits package that aligns with your company’s mission. Feel free to PM our page.**
#HiCaliberPermitProcess
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Marcella Aranda
Marcella Aranda I have been an avid supporter of HCHR for awhile now, but it seems to me that all your supporters will understand if you forego the auctions until this issue is settled. Focus on fundraising to save the rescue, not the 3,4 or 6 horses that could end up in a worse situation should you close. It’s important that you reach out to your monthly supporters and ask if they mind diverting their monthly donations to cover this issue, one month of diversion could very well mean lifelong care for those currently and to be in your care. I’ve seen the hate blogs and I’ve noticed in recent weeks your efforts to combat those rumors through better transparency. I appreciate the efforts.
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Justine Hope
Justine Hope I support HCHR either way, and I completely understand the need to make sure existing horses are safe before saving more. We love you HiCaliber!
`ripped from their herds, dispersed or worse’? Nice choice of words right before she threatens to execute a bunch. Best thing that could happen to those horses is if HiCaliber went belly up. Plenty of people on standby to absorb the hoard.
So, is that the underlying explanation as to why so few get adopted out?
I hope you are right. These horses need safe places to land.
It won’t be easy but it will get done. Trust.
Omg but when? I have stayed quiet for most of this post just reading what people are saying. Then I can’t take it anymore. I have tried multiple ways to help this all come to a end but nothing seems to work. I absolutely hate that we have no voice to talk to the ones that keep this going by continuing to give her money. They are the ones keeping this nightmare going for the horse’s. wake the fuck up!
You do have a voice. Spreading the word helps. The more people that come forward, the more safe others feel in doing the same. Trust things are getting to the right people and report on things yourself i you are so motivated. People are constantly posting links in this comment. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they do turn and we have built quite a bit of momentum.
Someone said on this blog that every time Shed writes a new post it’s like Christmas morning. Shed, I love you for what you are doing. I admire you. You are a smart compassionate woman with a sense of humor. You are 100% for the horse’s first and foremost! My Idea of Christmas morning is when the authorities come to shut this bitch down! Then and only then will these horses truly be rescued for the first time!!!
That would be my idea too because this next post to go up is no Christmas gift. I’m gutted.
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It’s not the transparency that damaged their efforts, it is the facT that people who knew better brought out the actual costs of the permits and HoeCaliber had to address that and “spin,” it with associated costs in an effort to SEEM transparent.
Trust Michelle to find a way to try to blame transparency, when in fact she ISN’T transparent. There is no one’s word other than her own as to what she was “supposedly,” told, although I am given to understand that if she receives the permit-despite being out of compliance with numbers-there might be an additional need for money.
Michelle admits that an auction model brings in money, so she will continue to bring more in, and she will continue to dispose of them to not add to the numbers. That saddens me. It means that many more horses will die despite supposedly being “saved,” and the villagers will never know except for Shed’s blog.
I am just so sick of this whole thing as displayed in my last rant. It makes me so angry that they are still donating to this rescue scam. If they would just stop giving that jackass money the bleeding would stop. I mean the actual bleeding pun intended!
I’d be happy if the killing stopped.
Now I got my own post on the Discussion page, which of course I can’t reply to since they removed me. My point was only proven again that I only asked questions in the group. Yes, I expressed on here that I was frustrated that no real answers were given. For example, Rene had answered that she didn’t know why the in-tact Techie was in with fillies, and no one else came on to give an answer. I guess they just couldn’t leave any of us on there who were asking legitimate questions. At least I tried getting answers. (And yes, I am registered here with my real first name – not hard to figure out who I am.)
The page is going downhill fast IMO. There are more comments about HG and what they’re doing than there are discussions about HC. You had a valid questions and no answers; how dare you complain!!
I felt like I actually tried to ask questions without too much bias, and not respond with snarkiness or sarcasm. I did appreciate Rene’s answers and felt she was trying to give what information she had – she just didn’t know about some of what I was asking. Ingrid, on the other hand, had to reference the elusive “mole” in every answer she gave (and how she’s right on their tail!).
She’s got a lot of tails to chase then, because they’re leaking like a sieve over there.
I’m so glad that they are still willing to hang in there and be a voice for the horses
Me too. They are the real heroes in all this.
Sometimes I feel sorry for Rene because she doesn’t seem to be very intelligent, but she does make an effort to be nice. If she wasn’t so brainwashed, she would actually be a good volunteer to a local organization. Sadly, she’s often talking out her ass because she is nowhere near the ranch and just has to go on whatever lies fall out of Manson and Romney Faye’s lie holes.
I am not in the Discussion group so I can’t speak for what’s happening there. I my opinion Rene seems to have been one of the few sincerely trying to address the issues.
She either isn’t given all the information she needs to address them or she can’t figure out how to spin like the rest.
“HiCaliber Horse Rescue
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https://www.youcaring.com/hicaliberhorserescue-958394
Our transparency just cost us thousands of dollars – DAMN IT and HELP!
It’s no secret that HiCaliber is facing one of our biggest trials in a while: the county is requiring new very costly zoning permits for us to continue operation. Without them, we may be forced to close our doors!
Without these permits, our horses will need to be ripped from their herds and dispersed or worse, euthanized.
***PERMIT PICS WITH COSTS IN COMMENTS. They didn’t upload with original post, apologies.***
We don’t have much time left.
A week ago we launching a YouCaring fund for the process which is expected to cost about $17,000, with an immediate need of $8,969 to file the permit applications.
The buzz began and people wanted to see documentation. So we pulled the applications and realized we blew it. The initial need is NOT $8,969 (Ingrid is pretty, smart and has a great rack, but 3am math computations aren’t always her forte) but rather $10,669! Eek! Plus, we need an immediate $2K for the permit expeditor who is handling the very cumbersome and complicated process for us while we tend to our rescues.
**There is not documentation to support the additional $4,000 needed, but this is the figure the county told us to be prepared to pay for additional costs that will be incurred through the application process.**
If you’re just tuning in, HiCaliber is battling a change in our zoning. It’s far from sexy, but we have to deal with this or our fight to save slaughter-bound, abused and neglected horses is over.
Thanks to zoning regulations that changed a few years ago, HiCaliber, and nearly every rescue in unincorporated San Diego County are operating without the proper permits. Instead of being classified as “horse keepers” which does not require special permitting, we (like most rescues) are being re-classified as “horse stables.”
We argued our “horse keepers” status all the way to the top but have exhausted all our options: we have no choice but to obtain the proper permits or else we have to shut our doors. Without these permits, their fate remains unknown.
You all blew us away by giving almost $6,880 with our first ask. We have to hit another $5,789 before October 10th to meet the first set of deadlines and let the county know we are serious about complying.
WE NEED YOUR HELP!
We know it’s not sexy. We know giving toward paperwork doesn’t make anyone warm and fuzzy. But getting this handled is a real part of saving lives… and will leave our doors open to go on to save hundreds, if not thousands, more.
You all have given what you can. NOW is the time to share the plight of HiCaliber and the horses we’re saving with your friends, families, coworkers and companies!
Whatever amount you can give – whether $5, $50, $500 or $5,000 – is appreciated. There’s no question we’ve got a battle before us, but we’re up for the fight.
***PERMIT PICS IN COMMENTS. THEY DID NOT ATTACH TO ORIGINAL POST, and we can’t add them after.
Apologies.***”
Ummm….comments are still turned off.
Found permit pics in comments attached to above FB thread, not fundraiser itself. For Pete’s sake, just post the permit pics in the “fundraiser update” section.
Oh of course they are. Because Manson knows we can hurt her with the truth!
Also see where some of the village are saying not to go to the auction for awhile.
I noticed they had a handful of villagers encouraging them to focus all requests for money to the permit and Skip Auction. My eyes about popped out of my head – I wonder if they will just ignore it and hope no one considers how logical that is….???
How can they skip auction as that is their big money maker. Posting donation amounts or not just watch the donations coming in while they have ” almost enough for one or two”. Add the parking lot deals. The private buyers that back out. Waking up yet? Maybe we are all wrong. Like She’d said let them prove it.
Nothing like the last minute. Again, notice how nothing is EVER their fault. It’s all the haters fault for making them be transparent.
I’d say – Hi HiCaliber: you are right. It’s not sexy. And it’s not smart. Give us an accounting for the tons of money you have been given and the money you have really spent. And prove your need for more money. Then, maybe you will have earned the right to continue business.
Apologies, life just ain’t warm and fuzzy when someone has their hand in your wallet. Show us the need.
I hope it costs you your feedlot DAMN IT! YOU NEED HELP! mental help. Nobody gives a flying fuck about you Manson. I pray this closes your doors for good. You murdering BITCH!
What transparency? They are just now showing the permit prices and now they are 1700 more. But if you add up the new amount with the 2000 and 4000, it comes to less than $17000
“Our transparency just cost us thousands of dollars – DAMN IT and HELP!”
Just rough estimates….Fundraisers on their page took in about $7,982, so far.
Never saw what was raised at the Wine $ Brews, Fireball Friday fund raisers.
Any profits from the Rodeo Booth?
No donation totals from Auctions ever posted.
No donors want to see how these funds were used????
Everyone please keep donating! Please bring in yet more horses that you don’t have the adequate space and resources to properly care for.
Look at us begging for money, look at our song and dance but whatever you do, don’t look at the starving horses, don’t see when they don’t have water or look at the condition of their water, don’t see when we ride lame horses in ill fitting tack or that the riders are too large for the horse, don’t realize when we’ve skipped providing medical treatments to horses or dope them in order to handle them, don’t see horses developing behavioral issues from lack of handling, don’t open your eyes to the revolving door of adoptions & returns, don’t see horses in inappropriate herd groupings. Most of all, whatever you do, don’t see and do nothing to stop the slaughter of horses by one of the most prolific hose killers not working not working in the medical field in California. The kill buyers may be transporting them but Manson will transport them AND pull the trigger.
Manson can’t comment on slaughter until she takes an all expense paid trip to Eagle Pass to look slaughter horses in the eyes.
What about those two bonfire campaigns they just ran that they said sold so well? What about the magic money tree Romney Faye was selling? What about all those people donating their birthdays?
How about the percentages from folks buying products and signing up for the privilege of contributing? Forgot the name of that marketing scam.
That’s what I was referring to as the money tree scam.
Oh, you are right, that’s what it was.
There is a statement in the charities regulations that a nonprofit can only devote a certain percentage of time to fundraising. The rest of the time, they are to do perform their mission on behalf of society. I am pretty sure HiC has overshot that number by a lot to the point that their mission is no longer relevant to society’s good.
No shit! They spend 90% of their time begging for dollars it seems.
I only posted what is listed on their web site. That $7,900 is the individual fundraisers posted. Who knows what they get in private donations, etc. Maybe we can see the Minutes from the BOD meeting and the Treasurer’s report? Oh, there is no BOD overseeing this 501c3? Who is the Treasurer now?
https://www.501c3.org/nonprofits-board-directors-board/
Seriously, there is a lot of money not being accounted for. Seriously.
The BOD meetings are often held in Manson’s bedroom apparently. Wish I was joking about that.
Part 2 of the BOD Guidlines. https://www.501c3.org/avoiding-conflicts-of-interest/
Might be a good idea fir people to read these links and ask questions.
Seriously.
Maybe someone needs to peek under the mountains of poop piles. There may be a reason to keep them.
Good point ponyygirl. Could be monstrous and horrific underneath them.
Ha ha!!!!
So much bullshit to keep up with, Shed. I don’t envy your tasks for this week’s post(s).