Aaandddd we’re back. I realize I was going to post on Wednesday but my inbox flared up with some pressing matters and then there’s that whole procrastination issue I have. Also, to be quite frank, sometimes writing these things feels like a homework assignment. I realize it’s one I signed on for, so I’m not really complaining; just a little bit of whining. They payoff has been worth it so far. It has especially been worth it as the village idiots file take down notices because they don’t like the content and not only do those notices get denied, but then I get their full names, contact details and a copy of them perjuring themselves in their sworn statements. Good times! Anyhow, let’s get down to doing what we do best on this blog and bring some stuff into the light. Sadly, we have way too many names to say again this week, but we’ll get to those in a bit. For now, let’s grab our drinks and pull up a chair while we deal untangling the latest doings of the Manson Family.
I’m sure most of you noticed that Wrinkles has been MIA this past week or so since Jonassthan has moved onto the property. While the official party line is that Wrinkles has not been feeling well, it did not go unnoticed that the previous week, Manson made her drive the truck with no radio or air conditioning all by herself to auction, while Manson rolled up in her BMW and left early to put the oxygen mask herself. Wrinkles was also left to deal with Nacho The Flipper while Manson’s new pet, Jonassthan remained glued to her side when he wasn’t driving his own vehicle with creature comforts. It really wasn’t a huge surprise that Wrinkles gave auction a miss this week, but that didn’t stop her from working social media to earn her rent.
As you can see, people are starting to wise up to HiCaliber and their ways and Wrinkles efforts at raising money were not successful. To be fair, her arguments were weak and half-hearted. None of this is really any news but what stood out for me, and has for a while, is the term `humane euthanasia’. I thought that must be a HiCaliber term, but apparently not. There appears to be a lot of confusion about what the word `euthanasia’ actually means.
As you can see, everybody’s favorite self-congratulatory journalist that hardly anybody has heard of, has some trouble with what euthanasia actually means too. How shocking. Because I don’t expect my detractors to take my word for it, I’ll let Merrium-Webster clarify things for us.
Are we all clear? The killing or permitting the death of a hopelessly sick or injured being. Anything that falls outside this definition is neither humane or euthanasia. Period. Also, just for clarity, they call it `chemical’ euthanasia because they use a chemical solution as opposed to a bullet which would be bullet euthanasia or gunshot euthanasia. It has nothing to do with what is humane or not. I’ll even extrapolate on that and point out the difference between a chemical euthanasia and a bullet euthanasia when it goes bad. I’ve seen chemical euths not go well . However, that is why you sedate the animal first. That way if they aren’t taking the sedation, then you don’t push the euthasol until they are sedated down. Pretty simple. However, when a bullet euth goes bad, it goes really bad. Just ask Bang Bang Becky all about that. I don’t know about all y’all, but I’d much rather have a horse that took a long time to get down (I’ve been there), than see one with a bullet hole in his face, blowing blood out the nose and flipping over backwards while struggling to get away from their assassin. I sure as shit don’t need to see them `run to heaven’ either. Maybe that’s just me though. Let’s move on, but please keep the actual definition of euthanasia in mind.
I know we mentioned these mares on the euth list last week and it seems that was enough to motivate Manson to NOT give them the chance of one last good home and execute them immediately. Both mares were shot in the face last week. Loree’s offense was being old. Siri was only 10 years old and her only crime was they couldn’t figure her out and ride her. She was not lame, she wasn’t sick. She reared and given their penchant for riding with ill fitting tack and lack of riding skills, I can’t blame her. Manson claimed she was reactive on the ground and again, I can’t blame her. They live in feed lot conditions with no shelter and often no water or feed. They go weeks and months without any human interaction at all. It’s a wonder more aren’t acting out on a regular basis. In case anybody is keeping track, Siri was an owner surrender. They never do that well at HiCaliber. Neither of these mares were given a courtesy one last post to see if maybe somebody, including another rescue wanted to grant them another chance. Tell me again that Manson doesn’t enjoy shooting animals. Rest in peace, sweet girls. #SayTheirNames
It seems Joan and Belen are the next ones to take a nap under the blue tarp. No vet signing off on them and no reprieves. We talked about both mares in the last post. While Belen’s friend Tiara manged to make it off the feed lot to another rescue, poor Belen has not been seen around the ranch since and neither has Joan. Their deaths have since been confirmed. Poor Belen was a purchase from Misner and it seems the village idiots forgot her as soon as she was loaded in the trailer. Joan never had a chance. Rest in Peace Ladies. #SayTheirNames
I’m sure it is no surprise that Manson executed Marek this past week. The very fact that she named the horse Marek pretty much sealed his fate. `Marek’ is the name of one of the people who have been wrongfully accused of writing this blog. That alone should make it clear that she enjoys killing these animals. Manson rattled off her 30% opinion on why Marek had to die, not the least of which is she feels being over at the knee means they have `had the shit ridden out of them’ and that a horse pointing his hind toe means his hip is fractured rather than a stifle injury which is actually what it usually means. The brief little sharp turn she showed on the video clip (click on it above if you’re viewing from a phone), doesn’t show him rotating or swinging a leg out like most horses hip/pelvic injuries do, but it was good enough to satisfy the village idiots. Not a single one of them questioned why she only showed an xray that belonged to Joan and nothing of his to back up why he needed to die. So, despite a few protests and requests for a vet diagnosis, along with somebody offering him sanctuary, Manson drug him over to the killing field and promptly shot him in the face. I’m guessing she touched herself aggressively immediately afterwards. Rest easy, Marek. I’m so sorry you landed in that hell hole. #SayHisName
Crystal has been dead for a while. She didn’t last very long at HiCaliber and I’m not sure a single village idiot even noticed she was gone. This mare was bought at auction only a month ago and she was likely septic. If you listen to the intake video, Amanduh remarks that at least she had finally gotten something to eat because she had been too sore to walk over to her food the night before. I guess it never occurred to any of them to bring the food and water to her if that was the case. These people have zero empathy for these animals and their ignorance is almost criminal. She was clearly ganted up from lack of water and Amanduh just thinks that’s her being skinny. Who knows if a vet even saw her or signed off on her. Rumor has it that Manson is back to doing most of the intakes and only showing Dr. Talbot a few horses that she needs a second opinion on or x-rays. She has said many times that she doesn’t bother wasting money on horses she believes to be compassion pulls which means they do not get vaccinations, dental or to see the vet. Manson acts as judge, jury and executioner for horses like Crystal and so many others. RIP Crystal, you certainly deserved better. #SayHerName
Curtis also went over the rainbow bridge recently. He was bought by HiCal last June and, at the time, said to be around 20 years old, dead broke and sound. He was sound enough to put up with what passes for test rides at HiCaliber, but at some point was shipped off to what was considered to be his `one last good home’. I don’t have a lot of details other than he is no longer with us because he `was like 105 years old’ and is teeth were said to be falling out. I guess feeding him mush and letting him enjoy retirement was too much effort. Please refer back to the definition of euthanasia, I left above. No word on how he left this earth and I’m guessing I don’t want to know. RIP Curtis #SayHisName
Manson is always in a good mood after she gets to shoot something in the face and this week was no exception. Along with her new best ass barnacle, Jonathan, she loaded up some horses to deliver (they finally caught Luya after weeks of trying) to their new and temporary homes and to go on a trail ride. Manson likes to say she’s making adoption videos so she can justify hauling out to ride on trails and have the village idiots buy her gas and whatever food she shoves down her gullet while she’s out. The fact is, most actual horse people want to see more than a video of a horse’s ears and raggedy mane while listening to her spout vulgarities. Also, to prove just how little she cares about horses and that oxygen must go on her first, the horses got to stand in the horse trailer while she made a pit stop to get her snatch waxed. Why she felt the need to share that with the masses is beyond me but I couldn’t help but recall how often she reminds us she hasn’t showered for days and that some things have a shelf life. If I had to hear it come out of her mouth, y’all can share the horror and read about it here. Pray for the poor person that had to get all up in that nastiness.
Poor Trish is the latest adoption return. She was adopted out during the Show n Go event in September. I believe that was the one where people got to name their price or whatever. It turns out that Trish was adopted as a lesson horse. She was recently returned because she stumbles and falls down at the trot. Yet another adoption fail and I’m really not sure why that wouldn’t have been evident with test rides. I just know a lot of their recent adoptees have bounced back and then we really don’t hear much about them. If they bounce back more than once, they are at high risk for hitting the euth list. I hope lots of people keep asking after her so Manson doesn’t make her disappear like so many others.
Speaking of adoptions returns, poor Camilla, who was a recent return, was immediately slotted into Amanduh’s lesson program. Camilla was returned due to lameness and while it is thought to be mechanical in nature (diagnosed by real vet), HiCaliber has not done anything about fixing the issue, which is fixable via a standing surgery. Manson has not even requested that from the village idiots. I know she doesn’t have a great track record of picking out hind end lameness in horses, but once a real vet says it’s there, it’s likely there. Most people do not want to ride a lame horse. As for the rest of Amanduh’s lessons, apparently a lot of people are falling off horses including at least one getting a concussion. Strange how Amanduh giving lessons on rescue owned horses is no biggie for their insurance but Manson tried to tell everybody that the insurance wouldn’t allow her to keep neuro horses on the property due to liability. Even stranger that there hasn’t been many neuro cases diagnosed since the actual insurance policy was posted.
Since the orphan baby at HiCaliber is still enough of a novelty that there are plenty of updates, I thought it would be interesting to check in with some sushi foals that were adopted out. If you recall, Crunchy and Ahi (now knows as Maverick and Mavis)are the ones living with novice owners in the tiny pen. As is evident in the above pictures, they are failing to thrive and have adopted that malnutrition belly that all the HiCaliber foals seem to sport. I’m sure the people mean well, but foals need proper nutrition and exercise, which is something that Manson seems unaware of or too lazy to implement. If these are new horse owners and HiCaliber is as good as they have for mentors, I’m worried for these babies. The do not look ok although marginally better than the remaining sushi foals back at the feed lot. Those are all losing hair which Manson has now diagnosed as a fungal issue. I dunno know about that, but I do know malnutrition can cause them to lose all their hair too. Just sayin…
Auction was a shit show as per usual this week. The same old lines and cons with four new inmates drug back to the feed lot including a perlino stud that Manson has been obsessing over for the past month or so. Because Manson was unsupervised and Jonassthan doesn’t come up for air out of her rectum long enough to draw a deep breath let alone have an independent thought, there was basically no brakes on her. This left her free to rant for the camera as she trudged around Ontario bitching about how she doesn’t like to do auction and how she would rather be out with the `herds’ back at the ranch. I found that strange considering she goes days where she never goes near a horse and she never lowers herself to even throw feed or water when there are no volunteers around. I also was amused to see her walking past pens and pens of pig, goats and cows without shedding a single tear or feeling `connected’ to any of them as she has in past weeks. I guess she forgot about that. She also took the time to cry for Tanner, but only after bitching that she felt like she got left holding the bag with Romney Faye jumping ship. I’m sure I don’t need to recap the entire day’s events or remind people that, once again, not every horse they drug home from auction got an intake video and they did seem to leave the bay TB in the parking lot when the village idiots didn’t rally. They have seemed slow to rally lately so I fully expect Manson to actually take out her gun and start waving it around in coming weeks. Either that, or she’s going to have to dust off Romney Faye to make it rain. A little birdie told me that they are so behind in bills that up until this week the horses were mostly being fed rat infested teff that had been sitting on the driveway for months because she has no credit with the hay company.
Manson was positively moist that she got her blue-eyed wonder horse. I’m sure she had visions of little freaky eyed foals dancing in her head as she bid him up as `high as she had to in order to get him’. She even proudly informed us that she was willing to leave him at the auction for a day so she could come home and sell everything she owned to come up with enough money to buy him. Thankfully he went cheap so she only had to dip the rescue paypal like usual. Already referring to him as `my boy’, she claimed he had a story to tell and left us all hanging for the algorithm bump. I’m sure a good part of that was also due to her having writer’s block and needing the right combination of alcohol and recreational pharmaceuticals to actually come up with the story she claimed the blue-eyed wonder was telling her by sending psychic messages to her FUPA or something. Thankfully, the village idiots have long since forgotten that the rest of us are still waiting for her to do something with her paper bag of hair and tell the stories of the Louisiana horses. Anyhow, after a few days wait, we were finally treated to Astro aka Wyatt’s `story’.
Never one to pass up an opportunity to go live, Manson treated us to a live hit with her Astro/Wyatt in the dark. She claimed it was because she was busy all day with a flat tire or something, but she had likely just gotten out of bed. With the blood still running down his neck from a banamine shot, Astro hobbled out of his pen while Manson tearfully told us that he had PSSM and made up this fantastical tale of how he had been passed around to breed eleventy billion mares to make PSSM foals in the past couple of months. Because his original owner appears to be a village idiot, it was not her fault that she gave him away with his testicles attached knowing he had PSSM because she assumed the person would geld him. You know, because that always happens when you give a unique colored horse away to a backyard home. It’s also clear that Manson has absolutely no clue about PSSM and how to manage it other than what she read from the link we provided in the comment sections on here the other day when one of the readers rightfully guessed he was likely to have PSSM given his pedigree. Unfortunately for the horse, Manson doesn’t really fully understand the difference between regular exercise to prevent an episode and absolutely not forcing a horse to move any further than necessary when they are actively tying up. I’m also hoping her idea of exercise is a bit more than what she showed on live feed because wandering around and eating out of the communal hay bin (Nice quarantine measure there) and visiting his neighbors who aren’t quarantine horses, isn’t going to cut it. Perhaps she’ll drag him around from the golf cart. At any rate, despite the meds, the poor horse was sore as a boil with a lot more going on with his front end than PSSM.
Anybody that is a masochist like me and sat through her entire live feed, probably noticed that she went on a little rant directed at another SoCal breeder and indicated that she was breeding PSSM horses. The thing with Manson is that type of thing is never random. If Manson openly targets or trashes somebody, you can usually guess that is probably a person Manson has screwed over and didn’t put up with it. Such was the case this time. It turns out the breeder that Manson called out is the owner of the stallion that Manson bred her mare RyRy to, with Daisy (3 years old) being the result. Both horses still live at HiCaliber for free. It seems that Manson didn’t pay her bills *shocking* and for some reason that adds up to the person being owed the money being the bad guy. So, I did a bit of digging and it seems that Manson’s mare had an injury that she refused to do anything about, so she left the breeder with over $1000 owing between vet and mare care/board bills. The stallion she was bitching about is not the one she bred her mare to, but he also doesn’t have PSSM. He is a HERDA carrier which means that if you breed him to a clean mare, there is zero chance your foal will have HERDA. This is why they do the 5 panel testing and this breeder posts the results. She is not hiding a thing. Most people breeding horses with Poco Bueno in their bloodline are stupid if they do not have a five panel test done on them. Similar to anybody breeding a frame overo APHA without testing for OLWS is asking for trouble. While Manson bragged about Astro/Wyatt being Two Eyed Jack bred top and bottom, many QH people cringed knowing that PSSM was likely with that inbreeding. What we saw during her rant was Manson being a vindictive bitch and nothing more. The people that she owes money to have beautiful horses and Manson certainly never had an issue with them until she couldn’t pay her bills.
An Indian legend says:
” When a human dies there is a bridge they must cross to enter into Heaven. At the head of this bridge waits every animal that human encountered during their lifetime. The animals, based on what they know of that person, decide which humans may cross the bridge…and which ones are turned away”
I had a hard time with this post this week. First it was just my usual irritation with the same old antics and cons, but as news trickled in of the absolute shooting spree Manson went on over the past week, it became a different kind of difficult. She has that perlino stud that is in clear and obvious pain and she’s going to spend untold donor dollars on him because she `has a thing for blue eyes’, yet Marek wasn’t even worth an x-ray to her because he was just a sorrel even though he was in no way as uncomfortable as Astro/Wyatt. PSSM is not something you can fix, but only manage, but perhaps Marek could have been fixed. Her reasons for shooting these animals are so arbitrary that it can’t accurately even be called euthanasia. It most certainly can’t be called compassionate. Then, by some fucked up reasoning, she doesn’t count compassion pulls as regular euthanasias. That, to me, says right there she knows she’s killing horses that don’t need to be and that is not rescue. That’s just running a high kill shelter and that’s not ok. The fact that she names one of the horses after a person she hates and then refuses all offers of sanctuary homes or money for diagnostics shows me she enjoys killing them. It reminded me all too well of that sick bastard, Tim Sappington. You can read all about him at this link . I don’t even want to think of the horror for those horses that spent their last moments on earth standing next to another dead body and having Manson’s evil mug the last one they saw. That haunts me. It also motivates me to stay the course. I don’t ever ask for people to do much other than read, but I’m asking that people read the comments and take note of the links in the comment sections. Please use them. As for me, I will try to get it together to get a post done up earlier next week. #saytheirnames
Every time I see Magnum out running in the arena (because isn’t he still in quarantine and that would make for great bio-security, right?), I wonder how much time the mislabeled sushi foals got to have out of their small enclosure to stretch their legs and run and play? How long were they kept in that small pen, all 10 of them. There were never any pictures or videos of them out playing. They still have a couple of those foals and the only pictures or videos of them have been of them in the overcrowded pen, getting shots and manhandled or inappropriately tied to things – almost all of which showing that their health has deteriorated since arriving at HC.
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Does this sound familiar?
“He was the dictatorial ruler of the (Manson) family, the king, the Maharaja. And the members of the family were slavishly obedient to him,” former Manson prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi told CNN in 2015.
To the point they would kill for him”.
Charles Manson has died on Sunday.
“Laurie Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School who follows high-profile cases, described Manson in 2009 as the worst of the worst, evil incarnate.
“If you’re going to be evil, you have to be off-the-charts evil, and Charlie Manson was off-the-charts evil,” Levenson told CNN.
Now the new Manson is Michelle Knutilla, may she be buried under one of the many shit piles on the ranch.
Well, it’s the eve of another auction. Thought I’d continue with what I did last week and put up a list of auction horses from the month of June that the Village paid Michelle to drag back to HiCal. Feel free to update on whereabouts folks. I am going to get a database going b/c my notes in my notebook are getting hard to follow. Here we go.
6/27
-Stilly (am I correct in thinking he was lucky enough to go to another rescues and have his name changed?)
-Ginny
6/20
-Techie (FINALLY got his cryptorchid surgery done 2 weeks ago after being in with a bunch of fillies for how long?)
-Gordy
-Laurie
6/13
-Merle
-Posh
-Cami
6/6
-Skip
-Mahoney
-Margaret (donkey)
5/30
-Fantasia
-Marian
-Fila (to MOP)
-Carter
-Nike
I know this was about the time the OTTB debacle was going on. I’m just trying to focus on the auction horses right now. The OTTB 20 deserves reminders too, but that is going to have to be another undertaking.
For those of you who couldn’t stomach the video posted on 11/18, there were some cameo appearances of horses I had on the auction lists last week. Yogi and Jingle were both shown. Yogi has some significant discharge from his right eye. Ghost is in with Yogi and Jingle “mothering” them and was mentioned she is up for adoption. Nala was shown as well as Radar (who has admittedly gained weight since her intake video). I know somebody asks about FireThyme a lot here. He has been adopted, and they are working out his hauling details. According to Amanda, he is “going to his own little girl who can brush him and give him carrots.” He is sporting a pretty ill-fitting fly mask (it looks like it’s too loose). Apparently Franklin is “down the hill.” It was too far for her to walk, and she was worried about losing cell service. She showed us Cheeto (Chino? Couldn’t tell will have to listen again) and Dagus. The angle wasn’t a full on side view, so I couldn’t tell if Dagus has lost weight since his intake. Amanda did say his stifle issue should resolve with stall rest and he should be sound again. She also showed us Camilla from the OTTB 20. In the barn were the 2 donkeys purchase 2 weeks ago along with Jelly, Eclipse, Shane, and Emmerson. During the video Amanda mentions the 2 minis with sleds for feet taken in on the midnight rescue were sent to Baker Equine. Day is at Tracy Acres, and we heard Sutherland on the video where Michelle is crying over Astro/Wyatt. Shyloh is still there with an issue Michelle mentioned on the Astro/Wyatt video.
I know some grumbling was going on about a horse’s stifle being called a “knee.” In anatomical structure a horse’s stifle is like our knee. I know most horsemen refer to it as a stifle, and the knee is used to refer to the forelimbs. The “knee” most horsemen refer to is actually the carpus (wrist). It would be better if Amanda would stick with terms commonly used by horsemen (stifle and knee) so that we are all speaking the same language.
Stilly is dead
Sigh, #sayhisname. Sorry Stilly.
He actually died in his own. Well. Meaning she didn’t shoot him. He had a dental in very hot weather and “dropped dead” the next morning. This is while they were in Vegas.
I forgot about poor Stilly. 😦
He was a hard one for me because it may have not happened had there been someone there to see his distress
That could be said about many of their deaths there.
He was a hard one for me because it may have not happened had there been someone there to see his distress
Nike came from Louisiana.
June 2017 also had Holmes, plus the Appy surrenders Charity (dead), Breezy, Lupe, Tillie, and Pat (no longer at HC). Merle, Posh, and Sweet Willliam came from the same auction 6/13 and are all dead. The horses from 5/30 were Fantasia, Josie, Marian (all 3 are dead), and Carter.
Thank you. With Thanksgiving this week I’m a bit distracted. So many dead. Do we have the supposed reasons for their killings?
#saytheirnames
Posh supposedly had laminitis, Sweet William was euthanized right away which I don’t have a problem with – he was a mess. I’m not sure the reasoning for euthanasia but Merle had melanomas. Fantasia and Marian were taken straight from auction to a 100% vet and euthanized. I don’t remember the reasoning for Josie but I believe it was discussed on here.
Thank for helping to keep the light on the horses that the VIs have forgotten. Maybe if Michelle would call AC like what was done at Mike’s instead of PAYING people to bring her horses that need to be euthanized the ones responsible for hurting the horses would be brought to justice. Oh wait, she wouldn’t have the heart-tugging videos of crippled horses to bilk money from the VIs. Compassion pulls are the best b/c she only has to shell out $175 for removal plus the price of a bullet and keep whatever else for eyelashes and what not. FYI VIs a box of bullets doesn’t cost $650 even with as much ammo as Michelle uses.
@NoMoreBullets – If you don’t have a template set up yet for keeping track of the horses I have one you may be interested in using. If you are, email Shedrow and she can send you a link to the google doc. It has a lot of the LA horses in it but also a lot of holes where information should go. You are welcome to have at it and/or copy and paste and then tweak the spreadsheet to your own needs. 🙂
Please make sure you email me the link too. I know I have it, but I have several google docs with people and I’m bound to send the wrong link because you all email me with your real names or different names and I can’t keep most of you straight other than the ones that email me frequently.
Will do.
😂. I will e mail you 💋. Happy Thanksgiving everyone 💋💋💋
I’m offended, Shedrow. I thought my spreadsheet was unforgettable. Ugh. ::insert eyeroll:: Kidding!
New email with link sent.
I appreciate it, I’m just incredibly disorganized at the moment and I have 3 spreadsheets that are all different. They are all very valuable.
lol, totally joking. I can’t even imagine the amount of information you have to sift through. It puts me in a bad mood when I look at the spreadsheet. So I figured I’d try to make it useful for someone else.
I’m just editing this post for tomorrow, so I can take a break this weekend. I take my breaks when I can.
Concerned equestrian, did you have a picture of a Dane by your name before or am I thinking of someone else?
You are correct about the Dane. I decided to switch it up. 🙂
I only ask because I didn’t know if you were somebody new or not. I have Danes also for about the last 30 years, great dogs!
Thank you! I will do that. Heads up Shed! I am thankful so many of us can work together like this, it’s just too bad it’s for such a shitty reason.
I’m thankful for that too. I’m very thankful for the concerned advocates that have taken up this cause and stand together. More of you every single day.
I’m confused as to why they’d say on one photo that these ‘sushi foals” pen extends around when the other picture posted clearly shows a front-to-back view of it. https://www.facebook.com/HiCaliberHorseRescue/photos/pcb.1497793453635986/1497793210302677/?type=3&theater
Because they are habitual liars.
Yeah, for this crew – it is real simple. Liars and thieves.
It does look like it may extend to the behind that shed but still not much room. Why the hell are they feed them off the dirt? I am not a fan of that. They should have been told to get a feeder. Wonder if they know about phsillium?
The VI believe anything they are told!
You silly goose!
12 X 12’ morphs into 24 X 24’ if you look at it in a rear view mirror.
Ta da!
I wonder if the new to horses foals owners know those babies need frequent deworming every eight weeks or so with appropriate type and dose to get round Worms?
Sigh. I’m sure the foals owners mean well…
I’m sure they do but a legitimate rescue would never have let them take those foals because that is setting horses and people up to fail and horses always pay the price.
Since Mags Ransom has donated to rescues on behalf of the “Shedrows” and “Horror Girls” I thought I’d take her lead. I will donate a two dollars for every pound she loses within 30 days to San Luis Rey Equine Hospital to put on account of her favorite rescue, Hicaliber. We want you to be healthy Mags! Losing weight and supporting your charity! I hope you take me up on this. It’s win win for you and the horses!
LMAO! Be careful. She could take a large dump and cost you a lot of cash.
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HC trying to rally the village-idiots tonight, claiming auction starts early 8am tomor & they must have funds in-hand to rescue any horses…maybe Ontario got reprimanded for allowing parking lot deals w/ killbuyers & abusers?
Also claiming if there are no horses at auction, donations can go to their permit fund or be refunded…hmm….
I just saw that and was going to post it. What a bunch of BS. What a scam to get their permit money. Probably have to get there early to do their parking lot buys.
And then a VI posted this:
Donating to permit and then to auction via paypal. We need you guys to stay open…..the horses need you all to stay open.
Thanksgiving this weekend cuts into her grifting time and sexting time, so she’s gotta pack a lot of sob stories into a 2 to 3 day window.
maybe Misner & Salvador are headed out of town for holiday & want to get their scams in early tomor, instead of their usual late afternoon appointment w/ Manson
I looked on the auction website. It shows they open tomorrow at 9:30 am. It also shows closed on Thanksgiving and Friday (Black Friday). So I don’t think it is just generic hours. I will call in morning
This might just be a ploy because Manson wants to get out early so she can take her waxed cooch back to Texas.
There has been enough time since Mike’s auction for Misner to have realized some of those saddle horses he brought home wont’ work out so I fully expect to see a few of them show up. There was a grey that was pointing quite a bit. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him there with a heart tugging back story. I’m not up on when the rodeos that trip horses happen seeing as they are illegal and all, but if there was one recently. Salvador should have a whole load of broken horses to sell to the village idiots. The same ones he normally would have just turned loose in the desert or something. Good times!
Already two posts up asking for donations. Someone donated $200 and instead of a decal, she was offered a shirt!! Wow!! I am sure there will be more posts asking for donations tomorrow. Want to try and keep track of what is coming in? Confused yet? Them going early is very suspicious.
Everything they do is suspicious.
At this point, Manson is showing how easily she can disrespect and fool the people supporting her and abuse the animals, even to kill them – all the while blatantly lying about Anything that comes into her field of vision. It’s power baby.
And no more plain than the torture the 6 babies faced versus the “coddling” and focus this orphan baby has received.
The Village Hoarders are watching it al with their tongues hanging out.
She mentioned something last week that they are getting some work that their water will be shut off or something tomorrow afternoon. Who knows? She lies.
New post up. They have to close the yard by 3:00 for maintenance and the funds are coming in. 🙄
Just read that. That permit fund has been stuck for some time. Thought that was due some time ago. How much do they still need? Who knows? Probably won’t be able to watch tomorrow and maybe that is a good thing.
Watched the video on the Pinto pony they didn’t collect RR fees for. On the $1 menu and someone can quadranteen him at their place. Every time she mentions their Biosecurity practices, I cringe!!
Anybody with a firing synapse would realize that with over 170 head on that small property that quarantine is impossible. Manson is so stupid she probably thinks as long as they don’t have nose to nose contact they are good, but she doesn’t even practice that. Astro is next to Holmes who as been there for months. She was walking him all over the place and had him up at the barn for ball cupping demonstrations yesterday. I have also heard Manson say horses from private homes don’t need the same QT and that her magic SAA machine also shortens the QT time. She’s a moron.
As of Friday, November 17, the County online records indicate they haven’t even filed an application for a Horse Stable permit. The only permit application on file is for “agricultural clearing” required to remedy their violation of manure removal requirements. And the “clearing application” is still at initial stages a month after it was filed. That could be due to delay on the County’s side, but the failure to even file an application to allow more than 2 horses per acre is squarely on HC. So they raised a ton of money and didn’t spend it on the stated purpose. Color me shocked.
So what happened to the deadline they were crying about and threatening to close their doors?
Well, they had a deadline on the poop issue which they didn’t meet so they are in violation. Unclear what that means right now, but it’s not good. And from what I can tell, HC isn’t even trying to keep up with the manure.
And as to the number of horses on the property, well clearly they aren’t even trying to keep that number down.
This will catch up with them, but not soon enough for those of us who care about horses.
But raising money for a particular purpose with a specific timeline and not spending it that way… that is something the AG will be able to sink it’s teeth into.
Manson truly is the gift that keeps on giving with her big mouth and inability to keep her own stories straight.
The fact that they were threatening to close their doors and claiming that they only had a month to raise the money because of a permit change already DID catch their attention, especially since the change took effect in 2013. Tsk, tsk, Michelle…why lie about something when the truth is so easily proven? Do you even know how to tell the truth anymore, about anything?
The information was already sent into the AG–the GFM, the threats to close if they don’t raise the money, as well as the original zoning change in 2013 showing that Michelle knew about it long in advance and simply ignored it. I guess maybe she thought she needed to wait so that she could make it an “urgent” post, perhaps?
I doubt that she realizes that it is her duty–using donor dollars–to provide a safe place for the charitable assets in her care. A failure on so many levels.
Yes, but all that was before she got interested in `Texas’ and had to spend a bunch of money to set the honey trap now that Becky is gone. That BMW won’t pay for itself ya know!
their youcaring fundraiser got $8775 of $17K they lied about needing for permits….clearly not an exigent situation as they claimed when they started it 2 mo ago
That’s not counting what they raked in with Paypal for the same thing either.
I’d like to see Manson try to justify her biosecurity practices when her guinea hens roost in the barn rafters at night shitting into the horses water buckets and down the backs of the horses. Just Sayin’
Eeewww.
I wonder how many people fell off their horses during the trail ride lesson. Because that is a thing, you know, falling off your horse while taking a lesson from Amanduh.
I wonder if any of those dumbasses know that once you bonk your head in a helmet, you need to get a new one even if you can’t see any damage to it. Probably better to say nothing and allow natural selection to take its course.
HA!
Hmmm i wonder if Amanduh has instructor’s insurance? I know HC has a general farm policy but since Mini Manson has her own training business she would/should have to carry her own and it’s not cheap.
At the rate people are falling off horses, I hope she does for her sake. Although how you going to sue somebody that has nothing?
Instruction and training insurance is very expensive too
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Auction starts two hours early today they say?
Oh and just saw that Becky is gone?
Did M finally admit they’ve broken up? It seems like she’s been acting like everything is hunky dory, referring to Becky in posts and videos like she’s just been working a lot. #smokeandmirrors #itshardtoshakeavirus
No, she has not admitted that and she probably doesn’t want to get too cunty about it because that BMW is in Becky’s name. Meanwhile she keeps finding reasons to go back to Texas while Becky still pays for her car. Classy.
Wait, I must have missed all this about Texas. Are you referring to the state or is Texas somebody’s name?
The state. Manson has been looking for love in all the wrong places.
Oh geez. If sorry for that poor fool.
I don’t. Anybody that would fall into that mess deserves what they get, including crabs.
Lmao!
Yup. Seems she took her boots home to park under her own bed. Rumor has it Manson has decided to be strictly dickly again.
~Snort! Hahahaha!
It doesn’t surprise me if Becky left. I never thought she looked comfortable with all the crap going on. But that doesn’t mean she has clean hands due to her participation in it all. I got the feeling Michelle did the alternative lifestyle thing to look edgy, as she likes to think she is.
I wouldn’t disagree with that. I always thought Becky knew better and what was happening with those animals was wrong. She actually did seem to like animals unlike Manson. I think she doesn’t have much of a spine and let Mamson steam roll her into doing things she knew was wrong. I also never thought Manson was gay, straight or bi. I think she’ll swing where the money is. She is incapable of loving anything other than herself.
I believe you just hit the nail squarely on the head there!
Lmao!
Texas.
Kaufman Kill Pen
Hmmm…
Do you mean the company she keeps or are you talking anatomy?
Yes #BangBangBailed
LOL!!!
From the blog here or was an official admission made by M?
A not so little bird might have whispered something in my ear.
Anyone else think Manson is getting crazier & crazier by the day? She’s getting bolder in what she says & does. I think this is why others have jumped ship & hoping it sinks with just her. I’m also wondering if she will take the money and run soon. Leaving everything behind. She can’t keep up the charade much longer I’m thinking.
Where’s she going to run to? She might have to get an actual job and not sure the Texas connection is ready to add her to the feed bill yet.
And I think she’d have a much harder time getting people to come learn Starfish Equitation from her in Texas.
My roots are deep in Texas. She won’t be able to pull the same bullshit there and get away with it. Perhaps she can earn her living running down the street for the tourists at The Stockyards every day and leave horses alone.
So when you say “Texas Connection” is this a potential sucker that she plans to lure into her Venus fly snatch or a business contact of some sort?
I think it’s the maggot that got caught in the honey trap.
Truth is as edgy as most of need to go.
That was damned edgy! LOL! He gonna wish her reputation preceded her.
Buyer beware. Anybody that is attracted to that vulgar mare probably isn’t much of a catch himself.
Well, he has cooties now.
What is this whole thing with Texas does anyone know what is going on with her going there?
She’s getting her oil changed
Ahhhhh Shed, you’re so bad. 😉😉😉
I do not remember which live had it on there but the Texas trip is supposedly because she is going to go to the US/Mexico boarder where horses ship out of and quite potentially she may go into Mexico. Now how much is truth and how much is lies is up in the air. Personally I hope she goes into Mexico and never comes back but that is neither here nor there.
Oh, I recall that. Was wondering what all the TX discussion was about.
Dallas is nowhere near the border. She has said she’s going back to see Eagle Pass and a donor that wants to know about slaughter is paying for it, but that’s a lie. Her last two trips have been to Dallas and she was rolling around east Dallas last time.
Yeah, she’s plain bat shit evil crazy. Let’s see, Romney bailed, Ingrid bailed and now Becky has bailed. Let’s hope this is a pattern as MK keeps getting more and more extreme and “edgy”. With the internet and social media she can’t run and hide because it will all follow her to the end of time, just ask Kim Kardashian, once it’s out there it’s out there forever.
Wait. What? Ingrid bailed ?
Back in October.
Supposedly she had remove herself from the BOD because of a promotion at work.
Probably more like a warning from work
Such a coincidence that, yet again, all the board members are finding excuses to leave one by one. It’s deja vu!
Kelsey has bailed as well. LOL
When did Kelsey bail? And does she ever continue to volunteer her time there?
She stepped down from adoptions recently. I haven’t seen or heard her on live feeds since, but I’m sure she’s still around. She used to be around all the time but it seems the more Jonathan is around the less others are. He is not well liked by many from what I hear.
So does that mean Ingrid isn’t involved with HC at all….not even enough to make snide/rude/angry comments on FB posts ?
No idea. She’s been fairly low profile since stepping back. Rats and sinking ships and all that…
Her forever name should be Angrat!! FH
LOL!
Oh almost forgot to ask
Hey Manson how’s Dragon? I hear he was diagnosed with Sidebone. How is he being treated or do you think its a death sentence? Are you letting him suffer with no treatment along with all the other horses needing extra care?
How’s Bambi? You have never shown how he recovered from his eye removal surgery. Is he on your list to shoot since he’s got vision impairment? I know that’s a big problem for you.
How’s Howard doing? He was returned so I’m guessing you don’t like him anymore either.
What about Orb? I’ve never once heard anything on him. since he’s grey he must be full of cancer right?
Dragon has gone to foster. I think Bambi is still there. Howard was hauling Amanduh’s ass around yesterday and not sure about Orb.
I sure hope the foster Dragon is at never returns him. Damn I would love to know he’s got a soft landing. Whoever has him if you read this and are willing to give updates to me that would be awesome. Shed has my email address & I know we can both keep a secret if you would rather it not be known you associate with a “hater”. Unlike Manson I truly care for the horses and Dragon grabbed my heart the day I met him.
I really can’t believe how every single week, there is a different version of crisis mode. This week ‘auction starts early’ just to get the funds rolling in the night before. Doesn’t anyone in the village stop and think of how many ways they have been suckered, lied to, just to get funds for horses that don’t seem to be on anyone’s radar even a week or two after the crisis? It baffles me.
What’s funny is now she posted it is starting probably by 9 because they need to close by 3 for maintenance. That is only a half hour early and why maintenance today when they are closed every other day. Wouldn’t it make sense to do maintenance on a day that is scheduled to be closed? So if the auction will be completely closed by 3 how will she explain her hanging around until almost dark. She is so full of shit.
Just called auction and it is after 7 am and not answering their phone
Just called auction house. It is 8:05 am. He said he will be starting, he hopes, in about 20 minutes
It amazes me how she can lie so easily even though the lie is so easily proven. SFOS….
I don’t think the horses are running through much earlier than normal today. They are just admitting when they are which is rare for them. Normally the pretend they haven’t gone in yet so they can keep getting money.
Already 7 horses at auction and a Mini that Baker said to get. Now 3 posts up for donations. Wonder if Baker will need to raise money. Want to try to keep track of all this? Good luck.
didn’t they claim auction “started” at 8am today? It’s 8:33am Calif time & they just posted @ 8 horses + alpaca…
claiming they only have enough for 2….funny how they know that w/out knowing prices yet….
Donations have started at Baker. Well, hope they get it and any money HC gets for it. So, now 4 separate posts for donations. Confused yet?
There are a lot of horses there and a lot not in good shape. Now, add donations on the live feed. At $470 at 9:05 AM when video ended. I am sure they will post the totals collected today. Did the sun rise in the Wesr?
Yes, I saw the picture of the horse that needed to be rescued because he dared to rest his foot.
LOL
Plus they want to get the white one too. Multiple mentions of “Voldy” in the Baker comments and posts. Baker is now a mini version of HC.
I really liked Baker. Her minis are well taken care of unlike the feedlot. But, I just can’t support her knowing she’s in with HC & now pulling the same stuff. Hopefully she will leave them behind before its to late.
Baker is fundraising on their own. Wonder if they figured out that HiC is holding out on them. No RR follows the minis.
Oh, M said you could donate for the Mini’s. Baker has asked for extra funds before. Still confused?? It will get better I am sure.
Just trying to catch up. See someone asked Baker about them and HC raising funds for the Minis. Baker pretty much said they only account for what they raise and don’t know what HC does and to ask them. If Baker is willing to take the Mini’s and working with HC, they should make it a point to know what HC is doing with any donations that come in for the Mini’s. Any questions???
Baker Ranch is still dead to me.
Was trying to catch up. Went to the Baker page and a post is up they got the white Mini. The post from this morning,where they were trying to raise funds and questions were being asked, is not there now.
Yeah, they like to delete things over there. Has she told everybody to kiss her ass yet? That’s always my favorite part when she gets too many questions she doesn’t want to answer. She’s like Manson-lite.
and this “Robin Burnside Donated, but it went thru at 7:02!”
Ignore that. I’m not very bright sometimes.
Poor souls.
amazing, the secret-alpaca-rescue has agreed to take a 3rd alpaca in addition to the 2 they took last week, what are the chances?! The mystery-rescue just needs HC donors to buy it for them first….for $200….sounds totally legit!
sob-story #1 of the day….little girl’s fam sold her AQHA mare to a “less than stellar person” (HC?)….but Manson agreed to buy it back from the mystery person for $500…
If the alpaca rescue doesn’t have the bandwidth to purchase the animals, they don’t have the resources for their ongoing care. This is just a branching out of the horse scam Manson is running because she needs the cash.
For the sob story, the family should use the money they got from selling the horse in the first place to repurchase it. Horses at that auction don’t go for much and they can probably buy it back for less than they sold it for if they leave HC out of the mix. They sold it for a reason to begin with anyway so once they get it back for free thanks to idiots on the internet, they get to make a profit by selling the horse again?
If there even was a family. I refuse to believe that of all the places to advertise or sell a horse that they landed at Ontario because they didn’t know any better. I also refuse to believe that if they had a legitimate trainer, that person wouldn’t sell the horse for them. That’s what trainers do they sell horses on commission and then find you new ones on commission. Then for Manson to get on a riff about how these people are so green and getting taken advantage of had me shooting coffee out my nose. That’s the HiCaliber business model right there.
Just saw end of the last live that the alpaca isn’t available so she will refund their money if they want.
Right and SH donated $200, didn’t designate what it was for then tells them to use it for whatever. I think she donates quite a bit. What is wrong with these people? They only had enough for 2? Granted, I have been busy so am behind. How many thousands are in now? Oh, then Musner bought two horses he evidently realize we’re lame so HC is going to try to get them but they will need $2,200 Ro do diagnostics or have them PTS, good grief!!!
I have been just glancing here and there. She was very chatty this morning and her pupils were pin holes. She was saying they had almost enough for 3 and that Facebook paid up almost half. The first video says donations of $1530, second one $510 and last one $175 and this doesn’t include PayPal. Yet they are still begging for more. Shouldn’t this about cover everything?
Those crazy assed eyebrows, lip fillers, eyelashes and cooch waxes don’t pay for themselves ya know!
She’s gotta keep up on that now that she’s on the market again.
I guess beer goggles are powerful.
The one she is wanting to shoot looks like he has an old tendon sheath injury behind which is a blemish and not a reason to shoot the animal. The other one she’s really wanting to shoot even though just a few days ago she was never giving up on Astro even if there wasn’t money coming in for his treatment. I doubt these two will even see a vet if they have the misfortune of going home with her.
sob story #2…it’s now 2:11pm Calif time…horses done running thru almost 5 hours ago at 9:30am…but HC still there dicking around
now they want $400 each to save mare & gelding w/ foot issues from Misner, plus $650 bullet fees…of course no mention or questions from village-idiots on what 2 horses they claim to have saved already
I have just been checking on and off. Last total I saw on a live feed was $1,275 plus another $145 on the feed about the girl’s horse.
Don’t they realize Manson is a less than stellar person? But the little girl cried, so please dig deep so they can take the horse back to the ranch to shoot.
It is probably the thing she does where she tells the owner to run through auction to drum up the money and then they will take it back to the feedlot.
FYI – the horses were done running at 9:30a.m. A friend called – it did not start early today. Things are completely normal with the exception of the power which will be shut off at 3:30.
She had to create an urgency to get the cash rolling. It wasn’t working the old way. Now that Romney Faye is properly medicated, I fully expect them to dust her off soon.
Can R patch more than 3 words in a row without huffing in between?
She blames it on her meds.
Can’t post that on HC. Hope HG pick it up.
Drafting my complaint to the AG. Do I need to reference the file number they already have? If so, what is it? I donated from 2014 up until Spring 2016, so I have a particular interest in seeing their financials audited.
I didn’t. I just put it in the subject bar and then in the letter itself. I also included screen shots people have made and pictures people have submitted. You seem very savy so I think whatever you do will be just fine.
Ugh… I put HiCaliber in the subject bar and letter. 😂
You can just send your own information and it will be added to the file or you will get your own number.
Ok so can we talk about the Dun AQHA mare?
So Michelle says she sold to a bad buyer and broke this “little girls” heart when she looked up from the ring and saw who bought her horse.
1) if this “little girl” and her family are brand new to horses, how the hell would they know this is a bad guy or even who he was??
2) if there was no reserve on the mare, how would they have pulled the horse after the buyer bought the horse?
Well guess what? I was there today and saw the dun mare run though, she did in fact sell for the $385 or something close. I don’t know bidders numbers, so I can’t say who actually bought her. I do know after the horses were done, Michelle went and sat on the other side of the room and talked to a blonde lady. In fact she did this 2-3 times. After the 2 cows went, and sheep and goats started, Michelle and the blonde lady left. Also at this time the whole HICal crew got up and left out of the auction house. Halfway through the sheep, the dun mare comes back into the ring and the auctioneer asks what is going on. One worker says that they are reselling it. Then the auctioneer keeps asking who the owner is and who brought and bought the horse. Eventually the “little girl” comes in and it’s actUally a teenager. Some other guy raises his had and says he was the buyer, (this guy had been sitting right next to HICal during the horses). Auctioneer asks what she wants for the horse, she looks back to confirm a price with whoever was standing right outside the door, and she says “$500”. The auctioneer tells the buyer he can have the horse for $500 and he declines.
The whole story and happenings are quite fishy.
I don’t doubt for a minute that either HICal had already bought the horse before auction or they had someone else bid on the mare connected to HICal just so they can back out of the so called auction buyer and try and drum up more money for her.
This is blatant price fixing. Robyn and Manson?
They were both there, but the blonde Michelle was talking to,on the other side of the room was the mother of the “little girl”.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more so called haters there, the place looked very busy. I’m sure there are probably a few others that can back this up. Although I blended in, I kind of match the demographic, but I saw a couple people that stood out.
Was the guy who claimed to be the “buyer” short and bow legged? Picture an unbearded Yosemite Sam. Or younger and super chubby?
Oops I meant “un-mustached”
It was a Hispanic guy, a little heavier, some facial hair
Maybe Nacho
Bubba is 413 I believe and he usually stands by the door. It does sound like a bit of a set up to me as well. None of what they do is on the up and up though. If the guy they were sitting beside was talll and thin, it was likely Salvador. Shorter, it was likely Misner Sr.
He was definitely a heavier set Hispanic guy, looked to be going bald, but not older, perhaps mid 30s to 40’s with some facial hair. I wish I had heard who the number was that won the bid. At this point, I’m not even sure he was the “real buyer” but someone playing the part, because it took a few times for the auctioneer to ask who the buyer was before he responded. Anything HICal related is highly suspect to me.
Can’t you go to the Auction house and ask fur a list of horses sold and for how much? I think I have seen this posted before but from Mike’s? Oh, she will read this and take off on a tangent probably on HC or the Poop page.
Tea4Two
If Sh stands for Sharon Halliday her donations will never count as she’s one of Rene’s secondary FB accounts. I have a screen shot of Her screwing up and signing her name after her comment which was on the Sharon Halliday account, thinking she was on the Hi Cal admin account. I really think she should be held accountable for those faker then fake makeup donations but it will never happen. They do it to get the ball a rolling on donations.
I thought that was Shannon Muchaka or something like that.
Rene is Muchka for sure. I saw a SS of when she signed the wrong name.
Rene has 3-4 alias’s she uses on there. I have copies of alot of that stuff, but i really had to take a break from it, it was shoving me down a dark path I didn’t want to be in anymore or deal with anymore, so I took a step back from it all to get out of the darkness it causes anyone who gives a damn. I am sure you know what I mean by that.
Yep. Hope you feel better now. Do send all your good stuff to the AG’s office. The piper is gonna get paid, know what. I mean? The light is getting brighter. Like Shedrow said – the light is on the rumbling train of justice.
Yup, I do, but I feel the pay off is worth it. I’ve got pretty good supports behind me as well.
She must not be too bright, she’s done it more then once with the Halliday name too.
Bad dreams
Pretty positive SH is not Rene. Have seen her talk about stuff before and she has a FB page.
So it didn’t occur to them to pull out a divider, making one spot bigger and put the gelding in with the lame mare, so the mini doesn’t get crushed? They kept saying he was a good boy, so why not put him next to a full size horse.
The mini stud? Yes. They just had to buy him so he didn’t have to be taken home in the back of a truck.
Anyone can ask to see a copy of the sales list from the auction houses. It’s law they have to have it come tax time.
I’m not sure an auction like that would be itemized though. Just a break down with averages.
It’s a sales list with each horses info ran through the sale. Color and breed if known, sex. appr. age, sale price, and buyers number. Some are even more detailed with height and horses name if they know it.
The only lists I’ve ever seen out of Ontario is the one that people have written out when they were there.
Every Auction house is required to keep a list of every animal that comes through it. They have to have proof of what is run through the Auction, and what it sold for. They are taxed on this income. So yes they keep tract of it, and my experience with the ones here is they have signs up saying you can ask to see what the animals sold for (I say animals cuz they all run different animals besides just horses). They will not let you take a copy of it but if you ask to see it they will show them to you. Most auction houses make more off of cattle and livestock going through but over here when there’s 400 or more at a time running through it’s a huge money maker for the auction house. It’s used to be 15% of the sale but someone I know bought a horse at a local auction and they charged 30% of the sale price.
When I say 400 at a time I mean 400 horses at a time running through. I used to pull horses monthly to retrain and sell, and sometimes I wouldn’t get home till 4:30 in the morning and I’d been there since Noon that day.
To cover tax purposes on the end of the auction house, they have to know who purchased and who sold. The HC weekly story that someone dumped an animal at the auction is a line of crap. No one dumps an animal at the auction. A person takes an animal and fills out the forms so they can get paid when the animal sells or if the animal doesn’t sell the person has to come back and collect the animal. This isn’t an empty field where people are stopping, pulling the horse out of the trailer and driving off before it can jump back in or follow them home. This isn’t the stray dog that has been taken care of by the auction staff (which RFB tried to steal out from under them).
Is it against the law in Ca to drive and eat at the same time? Here They made it a $400+ ticket.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Manson drive on live feed when she wasn’t distracted and usually by food. Who eats a salad with their bare hands while driving?
No, it is not against the law in Ca.
I wouldn’t know what to do if eating and driving were illegal! How would you take road trips? What state are you in? Have to make sure I don’t drive through there! lol
It would never be law here in CA, commuters would never get to eat their breakfast!
I think eating road snacks are one thing, but bare handing a salad is quite another. Manson is always driving distracted. She claims to be hands free on live feed and you can often see her hand holding the phone in the reflection in her sunglasses.
Hahahahahaha! Stupid!
The website now lists Firetyme as adopted. Does anyone know if he went to a good home?
Presumably. Almost any home would be an upgrade for him. Glad he’s getting out.
I’m not a member of the Horror page cause I can’t stand the drama, back and forth, and contradicting each other, I think it undermines the efforts that are being made to put a stop to Hicalibers abuse and it makes all of us “haters” look like we are making up stories.
So today I took a look at the page, and one of them is saying that the dun mare never ran through the ring……..I’m sorry, but were you actually there in the auction house?
I was and saw the horse with my own eyes come in ……twice!
When I saw her come throug in the middle of the goats, and literally middle as they had 5 goats in the ring when they brought her back in, I knew something was up.
Now she could have very well been bought by HICal before the auction started, I don’t know. I do know when she came back in, she was huffing and puffing, breathing hard as if she was jogged back from a longer distance.
There’s also someone on there saying they offered to buy that horse in the morning before auction but HiKill refused to let them have contact with the owners. There’s some weird stuff flying around this horse.
I would love to know the real story behind this horse. I pray she does not stay at the feedlot very long. I fell so bad for her. What was with her being so agitated. Other then she may have known where is had ended up. Breaks my heart!
What time did she come through for the second run? I wonder if it was in response to the post about the horse being tied to their trailer that morning? Or could it be due to the auction house wanting to put an end to parking lot deals?
What might have happened is they wanted to relinquish or sell cheap to Manson, but Manson knows she won’t get the money rolling in that way so they ran her through the ring to get the village idiots worked up and added the sad little girl for dramatic effect. I can’t know why she came through twice unless the wrong person won the bid.
That’s what I said last night! I learned that they did that from the blog and it was probably you that said it. It sure make perfect sense to me.
I didn’t get to follow auction closely but in one video I caught at the end of the day, they showed this horse without her braids and M said they took them out so she (the mare) could “let her hair down”. With that lazy ass bunch, it set my hinky meter off immediately. Where they going to try some bait and switch before they found out about the spies lurking around?
Anyone know what happened to #HiCaliberLacey? Owner surrender 11/28/16 along with Zory. Lacey was removed from the website. (not usually good news)
Dead
Do you know why?
There was a post about it on the main HC page. He died of what sounded like hear exhaustion/dehydration.
That was casey and not lacey. Casey actually twisted a gut, I think.
Aka no water!
Do you know where the post is? Or when? Lacey was a mare.
Lacey was killed.
So, waite, Firetyme has been adopted?? No fan faire , nothing?? Please post more. As bad as he was, we need to hear about this.
Amanda made mention of it when she showed him on the video on 11/18. They are having issues lining up somebody to haul him to his new home.
So, it probably isn’t a great home if they still haven’t figured out that he needs to get out of there.
Anyone read M’s bullshit explanation for the Siri fiasco (on the bullshit page)?
1. If she was given 6 months pasture rest in April for lameness and visibly dropped pasterns, why did they post looking for a rider/trainer for her in June? (With a video that showed her looking pretty damn normal?)
2. Anyone here ever seen a case of DSLD that affected the front legs but not the hinds? Yeah, me neither.
Also, how much longer are they going to keep trying to plead ignorance and lack of communication between HiCaliber volunteers as an excuse for contradictions and obvious lies? If it’s a legit excuse then they need to get a fucking handle on it before their disorganization kills any more horses… But I’m guessing it’s just another fallback lie.
If she was diagnosed with DSLD they’d have ultrasounds or a nuchal ligament biopsy or at least photos of her dropped pasterns. Michelle is full of shit and has had no problem riding horses with dropped pasterns in the past. Ask me how I know!
Manson has no problem riding lame horses. She keeps saying that Telissa is for a light rider only due to her soundness issues yet Manson hauled her fat ass up on her and was riding her on the road.
Siri had enough of their bullshit and they weren’t smart enough to fix her. That was her crime. Manson doesn’t even know what DSLD even is. They were scared of that mare and that’s why they killed her.
So, there is photo that has been poster of a castration on a mini? How is this legal?
Why would it be illegal? Unless that was Michelle doing it LOL I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying?
Da fk?? ^^ Lost most of my post. Was the mini being gelded by Manson herself? If it was Manson or a lesser than vet and the mini wasn’t owned by her, would it be considered practicing med. without a lic.?
I’m not sure she gelded him. What I was concerned about is she mentioned that she needed to harvest some `prepubescent balls’ for a study somebody was doing and was considering gelding a sushi foal. They can hardly get halters on them, but she thinks cutting one at this stage is wise.
She was talking about gelding two of them….how young by the way are you supposed to do This? I have no idea since the horse I bought was a yearling his former owner was going to keep him as a stallion for her mares. As a brand new horse owner I said no way please geld him now while he is still with you before I get him. Always hoped he was not a crypt horse. He can be pretty bossy even though he is the only gelding here. Just hope there wasn’t one left in there somewhere. He is good with people though.
You can geld as a yearling. I don’t know how old those sushi foals are, but they don’t appear healthy. That’s the main concern for me. I’m also concerned about their after care. Those foals live together is a small filthy stall. I don’t see them getting enough exercise or even have somebody go and actually check them beyond glancing at them when they throw hay.
Ive had it done at 6 months, I believe the main concern is that the testicleS have dropped.
Some say that if you geld early your horse will end up taller, and gelding later will keep them thicker. I’m not sure how much science is behind all that,but it certainly was a `thing’ with old horsemen. Every horse is different, but I agree that they should be allowed to drop first unless they are a crypt or rig.
Very interesting…
I only ask because I honestly have no idea. Like I and others have said you can sure get a education from this blog. Another reason I asked is because in dogs there are now conflicting reports as far as the age of the dogs for developmental reasons.
I have been screamed and yelleded at because I believe at neutering dogs at 4 months old. I also have owned (one) intact male dogs until they have crossed the rainbow bridge (13 years and 11 months,) every animal is different. My pit and rott were neutered early. It did not mess with any confirmation but they behaved a whole hell of a lot better.
Happy Thanksgiving blog friends!!
The deal with not neutering dogs has more to do with cancer in some breeds from what I understand. I’m not sure how valid the science is behind it though.
I always spay and neuter everything in my house. I currently have a female Dane that I am showing but as soon as we are done she will be as well. I believe they make much better pets after they are altered.
Happy thanksgiving to you as well!
I asked my vet about dogs. He said there is some evidence to support leaving them in tact until they mature but he wasn’t super clear on it. I did wait on my dogs to neuter them until they were 3 yrs old, but I also made the effort to make sure there were no oops puppies. The reasons for leaving dogs in tact until they are mature are different than why you may want to with a horse or not.
Oh I agree, just was wondering about the development of a horse as well but then again horses don’t get things like hip dysplasia or have a litter of ten.
Just like HYPP and PSSM, there are tests for Hip Dysplasia, and if a dog has been tested the results are there on a pedigree for every dog. In both species a responsible breeder would do their due diligence and have the appropriate testing done before they would ever breed.
No that was not my point. I do very much understand what your saying. Some vets are now concerned with spaying and neutering to young.
It’s not giving the dogs body a chance to develop properly without those hormones. They are saying or trying to say it could be causing some of the problems like hip dysplasia. You are right any good breeder should check the dog before breeding for a variety of things especially for what that particular breed is prone to. My thought was is this same thing true with horses that may be gelded to young? Would it cause developmental problems?
I agree!! That’s a valid question and I’m curious as well
That’s a question for a 100% vet. I could make an argument for either side of that equation. Most people don’t spay their mares and I’ve never noticed mares being any sounder than geldings.
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That is very true. I wish I could spay my mares. I think they would have a happier more comfortable life.
HC’s begging people to come fill waters. Again.
Why can’t Manson or any of the rest that live there get off their asses? Amanduh is flopping around and ruining all the horses on a daily basis. Where I come from chores came before riding. Always!
exactly, it’s so cruel those horses don’t even have water. HC residents can’t even walk outside & fill them? Not like they have to walk far.
Yes and it has been hot here.
Last week Manson used the `getting colder’ excuse for having to shoot some horses.
Omg, this week it has been in the 90s where I work had to use the air again.
And just what does that have to do with anything? They do grow a winter coat which is why they are roasting now.
It’s not like the ranch is in Alaska or anything. Just another BS excuse and lie.
Yes your right. Shed do you know anything about the red dun mare? Like why they wanted to sell her? Can your boots on the ground find out the back story on her? She needs to get the hell out of there.
Yup, it’s coming up in the next post. It will be up by morning 🙂
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Something else to be thankful for!
Here’s wishing you, Shed, and all of us other Shedders an awesome and enjoyable THANKSGIVING 🍗🥧🍲🦃
Ok, thank you!
I know all horses are different so I find her comment a wee bit funny. My old mare was so stiff in California when it was hot and humid. When we moved to where we are now she did much better with very little humidity. Our first winter when we got snow she acted like a youngster, out running and bucking. So, it’s cold let’s shoot them is BS
Yup, she’s morbidly gross!
May she rot in hell for Pina and Siri. Killing two healthy young horses because she can’t ride anything that isn’t bombproof and their trainers are a joke. Same goes for every idiot contributing to this bullshit. Their blood is in your hands. How the hell any of them sleep at night is beyond me.
Pina is alive and well. A local trainer took her and she’s doing great.
Good to know. Thank you. RIP Siri, so sorry you were failed by ignorant and evil morons.
I just wanted to stop in and wish my fellow commenters a Happy Thanksgiving, for those who celebrate it. I know the news from HiCaliber is not great, but with luck the new year will bring in some good news for us all and give us all something for which to be thankful–as well as the horses in their “care.”
Until then, hug your horses, your family and friends, and I am thankful for all of you who are in this battle alongside of us.
Right back at you D, Shed and all the Shedrows 🙂 Happy Thanksgiving!
Nicely said, hope you all enjoy your Thanksgiving also. I will be thankful for all this to end and the horses to end up in a actual rescue with loving hands. Happy thanksgiving to you Shed! The horses are thankful for you!
Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving to all of you!
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