As you may have guessed from the title, I have another guest post today. This one is a bit different because it written by two separate volunteers. Because it has to do with both of their experiences with Johnny Cade, I felt it best to put them together and let them paint the complete picture of what really happened. I will warn you that it’s upsetting. It’s also important. Just going by my own stats and inbox, Johnny Cade was a game changer for many people. Because of what happened with him, many people could no longer stay silent and have stepped forward to share their experiences either in public or with reporting to various agencies. His little life may have been way too short, but it most certainly was not in vain. In some parts of this post, there are screen shots of the HiCaliber version of events. Please read what our guest posters have to say carefully to see how Manson mislead people about what really happened. As always, if you have any questions about the contents of this post, please leave them in the comments. I can’t thank these volunteers enough for sharing their experiences. I can’t imagine the pain of witnessing it. I also thank them for being there for Johnny Cade and others. They are the ones that were in it for the right reasons and what real rescue is all about. My hope is that they will one day share their talents and compassion with other horses and animals at risk if they are not already. The real rescue community needs people like them. Having said that, it’s time to get down to business and we’re going to start with Volunteer #1, a former member of the leadership team. As always, these are their very own words.
It was January 13th. We had a Ranch Leadership meeting that evening planned at a volunteer’s home. At the 11th hour (literally 30 mins before everyone was supposed to arrive…) a group text was sent out advising us all that Robyn and Michelle couldn’t leave the ranch as Johnny Cade had gone down and they couldn’t leave him.
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Although it was suggested to postpone the meeting, they asked that we all go ahead and meet at the ranch so that we could make some headway on some items. We had some new members to the leadership team as well – so this was supposed to be an introduction to the “inner circle” so to speak. So everyone changed their plans and headed to the ranch instead.
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I parked near the main house and could see a group of people gathered just outside the barn near the backside of the chicken coop. JC could be seen laying just off the right in the “road” that led towards training. Michelle was on the phone talking about having a “BSC1” to someone. She made the comment to the person on the phone that they “likely weren’t aware of what that was” and I remember thinking that was an odd way of getting help (by insulting someone’s intelligence). I did not know for sure whom she was speaking to but it appeared (by the nature of the easily overheard conversation) that she was speaking to animal control as she was asking for a sling to get him off the ground.
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The team of people present found chairs and settled in. Food had been planned so the person who had bought it for the meeting had it set up on a folding table right there in the same area. There was a flood light to keep watch on JC and we attempted to get started with the meeting.
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Michelle stood up and announced that she wasn’t going to be able to stay for the meeting as she had promised her child (daughter) that she would take her to Toys R Us and that “the day had turned to shit…as usual…and she just didn’t want to disappoint her”. This immediately put many of us into confusion as the whole reason we had turned the entire evening around to accommodate meeting at the ranch was so Michelle could stay with JC who was in distress. I sat there in disbelief as she went on about the rescue interrupting her daughter’s life enough and she had promised her, etc. etc. etc.
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She then went on to hit the “high points” of what she felt was important at the ranch. Her view was that with this new leadership team, she felt things could really “go somewhere” and that late summer/early fall, she really thought HiCal was going to go under but that in recent weeks, money was “back” and she felt a renewed sense of possibility. She then went on to say that we needed more volunteers and more volunteer recruitment events because (in her words) volunteers were “expendable” and that you always needed fresh ones to replace the ones that leave. I was shocked by this – as one of the main issues I saw at HiCal was the constant bleeding of seasoned and experienced volunteers. This left the ranch and horses/animals vulnerable to inexperience and errors. At that point…I had confirmation that this was not heading in a direction I could support. There was more to this meeting but I will stop here…as it diverts from JC’s story…but I am happy to continue it at a later date. The reason I mentioned how the meeting started was to show her focus for the evening was control (getting us all there to her…so she had us on her turf) and deflection (excuses to leave and go to Toys R Us in the middle of a horse crisis leaving the leadership team to handle the “mess”). Within about 20 minutes of the meeting starting, she gave Robyn some instructions privately and left.
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Meanwhile, JC had periods of flailing as he tried to get up so we would stop and assist him. We got blankets and rolled him onto them to protect his bony parts and his head. He was bright-eyed and you could tell he wanted to get up but he truly was too emaciated and had literally zero muscle to get much traction. Apparently one of Robyn’s instructions was to obtain a blood sample to be sent to SLR for analysis. Unfortunately Robyn did not know how to obtain blood using the Vacutainer needle and tube so I assisted her with this (I am a registered nurse). The needle wasn’t quite large enough so she went and got a larger syringe and took blood which I then placed into the tube for SLR. (those tubes were later given directly to and dropped off by a fellow leadership member…so I can say with 100% certainty that at least that blood sample was valid. I cannot speak to any others)
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Over the course of the next 2+ hours, JC attempted to get up several times and we all stayed by his side, keeping him on the blankets when he moved and when he was able to rest upright (to a certain degree) he was hand fed tiny amounts of hay. Finally, the lift team arrived from San Diego Humane Society Large Animal Rescue and the work began to get him off the ground. One of the volunteers there brought the tractor down but with the slope where he laid…it wasn’t quite enough height to use to get him up enough for his feet to be all the way underneath (although they were able to use it successfully at a later date to hold him up) but that night, the SDHS team decided to utilize the tripod to know they had enough height to bring him fully upright.
Around the time that SDHS first arrived and were assessing the situation, Romney and her son appeared out of nowhere. I would assume that Michelle must have called her from wherever Michelle was. At this time it was nearing 11pm. Robyn and Romney huddled around Johnny’s head and began a Facebook Live broadcast while the rest of us stood as far away from that as possible. It is important to note that none of us were A) happy to see Romney or B) found it appropriate whatsoever to have a Live being done with a horse situation so dire or C) why she was there at all? Wasn’t she no longer part of HiCal? Hadn’t she resigned?.
It was like another puzzle piece sliding into place for me – this was a heart string moment and they wanted to capitalize on it…and it was disgusting. Romney was calling for hay for the “poor guy” and acting like she had been involved from the beginning on camera – we all just stood there in disbelief at the complete “act” that was going on. Robyn – who had been receiving text instructions from Michelle the entire time while waiting for SDHS and just generally “being there” and supporting JC along with the rest of us etc – jumped into action for that live broadcast so quickly it was disturbing. It was like looking at a different person and it was awful. I liken it to Stockholm Syndrome or Battered Wife Syndrome…truly horrible to see firsthand.
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I know that Michelle was giving Robyn instructions on medications to give JC because I saw them on Robyn’s phone when she laid it down by JC’s head – unfortunately I didn’t realize what I was looking at (at the time) and wish I had paid better attention to those details in hindsight. At what point sedation was given I cannot say – but I can say that by the time he was lifted by the SDHS team, he was sedated. No vets were present. Michelle was also not present. My only conclusion is that she gave instructions to Robyn.
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After much time and amazing work by the San Diego Humane Society Large Animal Rescue, he was successfully lifted and walked with assistance to the barn. I won’t go into more detail at this point regarding the barn…because this is where everyone saw the video of Romney’s feeding him sleepy and lying down. This is also where she took the phone call about a “foal” that ended up being little Umbra.
Some of the volunteers had left to go and obtain some IV fluids from Dr. Talbot (he left them outside for them to pick up) and they returned with them. Robyn wanted to warm them so she was planning to use the microwave in the med room. I didn’t want JC to get unevenly warmed fluids so I went in with her to help. First she removed old food from their med room microwave (ew) and then placed a large (equine sized) IV bag into the microwave and turned it on. I immediately saw that it was too large and attempted to adjust it but by that time, it had been stuck in one spot (too large so the plate couldn’t turn) and melted one of the seams causing fluid to leak. I pulled it out – advised her it was too large for that microwave and also said that the sterility of the fluid had now been compromised by whatever was in that microwave. I said specifically not to use it for IV use but that it was perfectly fine to draw up for flushes or use for wound wash etc. so long as they used it within 24 hours. At this point, Michelle returned. I then told her not to use the microwave to warm the fluid (at least not that microwave) and about the leaking bag (not to use it for IV administration). I cannot say what was done with that particular bag.
I went by to check on JC and saw Romney was still in full FB Live swing. No way was I staying for that bullshit and I left. Needless to say, the meeting was a complete waste of time (except for some eye-opening glimpses into Michelle’s priorities) and helping me to discern that the emotionally charged posts that continued over the next few days were fabricated (at least from her perspective) because the night he went down – she could not have cared less. She wasn’t even there to help him through the stress of the lift…but we were. I feel horrible for the volunteers that were so caught up in that because they really did care and really did spend their nights there caring for him and sitting with him.
I am sure you can hear more about the end of poor JC from other sources…but I thought you might find this story of his beginning (or at least the beginning of his end) to show this never-ending pattern of “caring when its convenient” at HiCaliber that is so truly disgusting….I have trouble conveying it in words.
****The rest of this post is from Volunteer #2 who was there the night Johnny Cade died. I have added in some video and screen shots to show the HiCaliber version of events in contrast to what really happened. Again, thank you to these volunteers for coming forward to share the truth****
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Before I am called a hater or banned from any and all HiCaliber pages or you choose to have opinions of what I am about to say, I want to give you a little background on me. I grew up with horses and have a love and passion for them that I will never outgrow. I am in a position in my life in which I cannot own them or have access to spend time with them on a daily basis. This is why when the opportunity arose for me to volunteer my time and money, I jumped at the chance to become a volunteer and “Villager” at HiCaliber Horse Rescue. I was so excited at the opportunity, I didn’t care if I was feeding (yes, I was a member of the feed team), water, muck stalls, groom, rake up the barn, help clean out areas of the ranch that needed it or donate blood, sweat, tears and money. Not once did I see the Michelle muck stalls, water or lift a finger but for her damn phone and Live postings. Why did she need to when she could get volunteers like us to do it? I did all of these things in the short time I was a volunteer. I say short because it was. I started in December and have not been back out since mid-February. It didn’t take me long to realize something was not quite right, but I kept going the last few visits not sure if they were my last. Now I look back and know that my gut had been telling me something that I should have listen to from that first four weeks. It all went downhill for me the night Johnny Cade died.
JC came in to the ranch on January 4th and exactly two weeks to the day, he was dead. I kept telling myself that what was being done for him was the right thing. Trying to save a horse that came in such horrible condition was the right thing to do. But I was there that night and I have said that we tried everything to save him and the volunteers that gave up their time around the clock did. I just happened to be on “night watch” that night. JC was in his stall eating hay out of a bucket that a volunteer was holding as I came on for my shift. It was starting to get dark and I stood there for an hour and a half, making sure he has plenty to eat, clean water and that he stayed up right in his sling. Amanda and Michelle came into the barn and checked on him, all was well. Amanda was going to take JC for a walk as the “vet “said that he needed to go for a walk and he hadn’t yet that day. The straps on the sling in his stall were removed and I went to see the baby (not named Umbra until later), the baby goats and Granny goat all in the stall together with Michelle. I wanted to pick up that baby and put her in the back of my car she was so darn cute. All of the sudden Amanda was at the stall door, without JC. Oh no, what happened? He tripped and fell out back in between the chicken coop and the arena. I ran back there and sure enough he was on the ground, breathing labored. I asked Amanda what we should do. She said we need to see if he can get himself up. She tugged on the halter to the point we both thought it was going to slide off, she kicked him and yelled “Johnny get up! Get up Johnny!” She told me to push on his back and see if we could rock him up and when I did it was nothing but bone. I didn’t want to hurt him. He struggled and tried to get up on his own, but he was tired and breathing hard. I kept holding his head so it wouldn’t hit the ground. Michelle was there and I heard the tractor, time to hoist him up. We worked as a team and got his feet under him finally. I was so happy when we finally got him up on his feet. I thought the worst was over. All we had to do was get him back to the stall once he was steady enough to walk. He was pretty shaky so I kept talking to him and holding his head.
Michelle told Amanda to go get something and she returned with a syringe. I don’t know what it was and didn’t think anything of it as he had an IV in his stall. This was the “med team”, what did I know? It took a few attempts for Amanda to get it in the vein. Within a couple of minutes of that injection, his hind legs buckled, he was putting full weight on the sling, .Johnny seized, but he came out it. I heard Amanda ask Michelle, “Could I have gotten it in the wrong vein?” Michelle’s response, “Well, you could have. It would go straight to his heart, but it wouldn’t kill him.” Whew, that’s a relief was all I could think. And then he seized again, Michelle said, “lower him, we need to lower him to the ground, but this time his head went limp in my arms. Michelle flashed a light in his eyes and said, “he’s gone”. I was in shock. After a while, others started showing up after Michelle let a few select people know. We put him on a tarp and moved him into his stall and everyone surrounded him and Michelle started her Live video. I left.
Now I am not saying that what was in that syringe, killed Johnny Cade. I don’t know what was in that syringe, only two people do. But he should have been at the Vet Hospital. He should not have been in the hands of a “med team”. He should not have been kicked and yelled at. Why didn’t I stop her when she kicked him? I have asked myself a thousand times. She did the same thing to Kevin the Cow, when he was dying and didn’t want to get up. Is that what we do? We kick them and this is how they know we are serious?
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I couldn’t be a part of this. I know volunteers are still there because of their love of the horses. If they don’t do it, who will? You can bet it won’t be Michelle, who is too busy crying for all of you on a live video. She can’t even file a piece of paper on time. But she really cares doesn’t she?
Please tell me that the 2nd person speaking has reported this to state vet. If this is not ann eye witness account of practicing medicine without a license, what is? Both Michelle and Amanda should be held accountable!
Sadly, that’s not the type of things the authorities will move on. It’s upsetting and it’s wrong, but it’s not on film. They are going to be more concerned with the administrating of drugs and lack of a real vet overseeing any of this. Things like that. The things that bring us to this cause aren’t going to be the things that bring relief. We talk about them to remind ourselves why we’re here but the laws are such that it will be technicalities that bring an end to this shit show and we’ve got those covered too.
There is one place that brings the mind-boggling stream of insanity together for those who want to know, and that is this blog. [salute icon here] Otherwise it is hard to organize and understand all the pieces of information. Thank you, Shed, for continuing what has to be a grinding experience. You are doing some important good.
Ex-volunteers, I am so sorry that you found yourselves in an untenable position, one that was against everything you stand for, when all you wanted to do was help the horses that need it so desperately.
One thing I think is important to how this unfolds is seeing that HC shows each participant only a piece of what is going on, and while it is happening, rarely does one have a view of the whole story. When people ask why HC hasn’t been shut down, why more representatives of officialdom, even and especially the vets, haven’t been more pro-active, the Johnny Cade story illustrates that each of them knows only a very filtered part of the story. I’m sure that is true of volunteers as well.
As we know from other info, HC called several vets about Johnny, but asked only very limited questions that didn’t give his true condition. That short un-informative phone call was the vet’s total exposure to Johnny. The vets were also led to believe that some other vet had the lead on the case, so no need to go into it further. The humane society is no stranger to sad-looking horses and knew only their bit. The volunteers have limited experience. And so on.
Another thing that is so vividly illustrated is how little the HC principals have learned in all their years of doing this – especially Michelle! For all the exposure they have had to hurting and sick horses, to all her claims of being a 30% vet, she knows less than I do (and that’s a low bar, I’m a one-at-a-time ammy owner who just knows about things I’ve paid vet bills on 😉 ).
So no surprise Michelle/HiCaliber hasn’t taught anything constructive to people who are consistently there and hands-on, like Robyn and Amanda. Robyn seems to tail Michelle so closely, and yet is clueless on the basics. Amanda must have some way of failing to learn even that which is obvious to an observer. Romney is a whole other universe. From her scattered published history, Romney has been around horse rescue for years before HiCaliber started, and yet after all this time she knows absolutely nothing about horses.
Probably the most important thing to me about the entire effort at awareness:
From an unrelated experience several years ago I learned another thing that’s important here: People who con have an interesting pattern of returning to their basic format, again and again, even if they have been caught at it in the past. They may change the story, they may shuffle and dodge, but they keep coming back to the thing that worked for them for even a limited time. Even though that’s a trait that does tend to get them caught in the end.
So the important thing is that this is never over with these individuals. Even if HiCaliber is over one day, Michelle, Romney and the gang are not over, ever. Even if they suffer huge financial sanctions, even if they go to prison. Some day they will be back with similar horse and horse-rescue schemes. And in Michelle’s case, every-species-of-animal schemes.
The country is crazy with other past abusers who are back at their old tricks, and in the case of Michelle and Romney, and likely Robyn and Amanda as well, that’s something to actively create barriers against, now while it is all fresh. Just look at the pattern of other past abusers who were outed, some even had court records, and yet came back to their favorite con and abuse field again – and again. Because they connect with good-hearted, well-meaning people in rescue or horse-care who will never had heard of all this. Even if people did read something about it, memories are short and records not easily accessible.
It is vital to get a record out there in the public realm that will continue to give people new to them a heads-up, for years and years to come.
No. Romney had never been around horses before HiC but she was certainly involved in grifting money off feedlot horses before HiC. Via the Internet. Not a hands on horse person at all. Didn’t even know what palomino meant before HiC.
Perlino, just for the record, I did not say that Romney had been around horses. Rather, that she had been associated with *horse rescue*. She had been working with Laura Bell and Starlight Sanctuary before she and Michelle came up with HiCaliber.
My point is not how much hands-on-horses experience Romney has had (apparently little to none). My point is that Romney has chosen to associate herself with horse rescue for quite a long time.
It’s worth thinking about *why*, out of all the things she could do with her time, Romney has chosen to be close to horse rescue, even though she clearly has no real interest in horses. See what I mean? 😉
[I’m saying something without stating it outright, since I have no hard evidence that proves it beyond argument.]
I think a lot of it has to do with rescue is easy money to RFB and Manson. Both of them have been associated with dog rescues in the past but the problem is that’s a bigger and broader community. Too much competition and not as easy to get away with shit. They stumbled on the horse thing and realized it was a smaller pond and, sorry to say this ,but horses bring out the crazies. It was a goldmine for their grifting. I highly doubt it ever had much to do with wanting to make things better for horses or bring about change. So much easier to explain away and dispose of horses that you can’t `move’ than dogs.
Shed that’s exactly along my line of thought as well. I gave this a great deal of thought as Hurricane Harvey played out and caught out so many horse owners living not that far from me. It seems to be much too easy for people to store them and ignore them as being always there and not needing anything, since they are quiet and often tucked into small pastures away from residential area visibility.
The auctions and threat of slaughter is a great button-push for people who want to save something, right now. And yeah, I concluded back in high school that something about horses attracts crazy people.
But the care and treatment of horses can be complex and expensive. And physically hard to perform. Unless someone decides to minimize or skip those parts, as seems to be happening with HC.
Please tell me that the 2nd person speaking has reported this to state vet. If this is not ann eye witness account of practicing medicine without a license, what is? Both Michelle and Amanda should be held accountable! And Amanda…kicking a downed skinny horse….please please come visit our place….please do!
For the first time, I actually couldn’t read the blog. I’ve been having to bypass the photos and videos on the last few, and I had to avoid the Granny the Goat Facebook article, but I couldn’t even read about JC. I thought the pictures of the blind palomino mare, Little Bear, were bad enough that I have to hurry past (that mare really got to me), but JC? Worst ever. He seemed like such a nice little horse. But here is knowledge, though, that his death was not in vain.
RIP JC. May the knowledge of your death and suffering keep many another horse from being in the same position.
I think one or the things, beside the obvious torture, that got to me about JC is how badly he wanted to live. He wanted to eat and stay on this feet and these people failed him in the worst ways possible. It always makes me cringe to see them standing over a downed horse, a prey animal, thinking they are giving comfort when just the opposite is happening. Even go back to that video where Manson just walks in and hits him with a needle while he was down. She didn’t even pause to give him comfort or lay a kind hand on him. Just stood over top of him and hit him in the vein and walked away. I guess I take some comfort knowing there were at least some volunteers with him that gave actual comfort and compassion off camera.
I just read the HC post about JC. I want to know when Manson was crying? In the car on the way to Toys R Us?!! at toys r us?!! Her eyelash appt?!! Of course in front of the camera. That’s how she gets her money. All I can say is WOW! For these volunteers to come forward, it took a lot of courage. I would have more respect for Manson if she would take some accountability. I respect anyone willing to admit to mistakes. We are all human so we ALL make mistakes (YES bitch, you too make mistakes) but to admit them takes big balls.
This brought back how sickening the whole Johnny Cade thing was. Amanda f-ing KICKED him?!?!? That’s one of the last things he experienced?!?!? It’s obvious she is clueless, unethical and clearly not a horsewoman, but I didn’t realize she was evil also. Where is Anonymous? They hate animal abusers and are very effective at tormenting them…be great to see these wastes of humanity get a taste of their own medicine.
Uh, I don’t think they go after someone because some fat lazy psychopathic horse killer asks them to. However a fat lazy psychopathic horse killer sounds right up Anonymous’ alley. Really. Kicking horses is a regular occurrence for Amanduh? I think someone needs to kick the living shit out of Amanduh. We can always hope she takes a shot at the wrong horse and said horse knocks some sense into her or some ugliness out of her I guess. Obviously Johnny Cade couldn’t do it, he didn’t look like a horse who would’ve done it on his healthiest day though. I really hope everything those assholes have put those poor horses through comes right back at them tenfold and they experience nothing but misery the rest of their pathetic lives, until their cold black shriveled souls report to hell for their very long and well-deserved stay.
That most recent article (formerlyknownasd posted the link) was interesting. A lot more detail illustrating what a liar M is. I love how UC Davis said no about the eyeballs.
This post today truly devastated me. Not sure how anybody could still believe M cares anything about the horses. I have friends who still support this shit show and I’m starting to worry about their mental stability to be honest. I do not understand people at all.
Don’t forget to follow the links in the article to the Del Mar emails! Eye opening, as well, especially M’s entitled comment when questioned: “even if I had, wasn’t it for the horses?”
Just reading though the links now and wondering why Dan DeSousa is the one that contacted the SD Zoological Society when DAS was supposedly recusing themselves from the investigation. Shouldn’t SPCA LA have been the one contacting them?
I’m going to be a bit hyperbolic for a moment, but we are talking a conflict of interest here. What if the Zoological Society wrote back and said “Oh yeah, we take organs from HiCaliber and pay them $10,000 per testicle?” To protect his buddy Michelle Mr. DeSousa could have just deleted that email and pretended it never happened.
Also, WTF is up with the sudden change in font on the email?
I don’t trust Lieutenant Dan. I think he jumped on this now only because he’s feeling some heat. Before it was much easier to sweep people under the rug. Whenever my fonts change I’m trying to make a point or have done a shabby cut n paste.
Silly me, I went on my rant before clicking the links and reading. Oh well, I guess I’ll eat crow. The zoo did collect their own specimens male and female. But I’ll be still say Michelle and Amanduh are dumb bitches. I’ll blow my ignorance off as a fail forward.
I don’t mean any disrespect to you OG, but I don’t think I could remain friends with those people. I’m sure it bothers you. It would just drive me crazy especially with all of these moles and volunteers telling what’s really going on behind the scenes. I just couldn’t tolerate it.
I guess I should be more specific and say facebook friends. And it does get to me. I think a purge of “friends” is in order honestly. I could not spend physical time with a person who could be so obtuse as to still follow HiKill though. So at least there’s that to redeem me 😉
Seriously, OG, I am the same way. My FB page is small, simply friends and family so that I can trust what I post. Yes, I get hundreds of requests, but I don’t feel the need to accept them simply because I follow rescues.
And if someone on my page were stupid enough to continue following HiCal, then obviously they aren’t someone I would be friends with in real life, so why would I need them on FB?
Their ignorance even shows in the posts they think are “feel good” posts. The photos this morning… Tannenbaum lying in deep shit with a bloated belly. Emerson and Cassidy in a pen that’s falling down around them. Jayd looks like shit and has been there since last August. Techie also has the bloat belly while his hips stick out… the fact that they think these photos show anything positive says a lot.
I was wondering why it wasn’t muddy if it had just rained but just figured you folks in Cali didn’t have mud like here lol. So it makes sense that they are old pictures.
Techie looks really bad. Really thin and really bony. He is not thriving in any way. Neglected and dirty, unhandled, having to fight for food is not the way to raise a baby. Rescue horses need rescued for a reason. This is not rescue. This is BLM conditions.
So, Michelle is selling a hinny on the SoCal Horse/Tack Swap Facebook page. Anyone remember if this one came in from auction? Is this a HiCaliber horse (asset) she is trying to sell on her own? Or, is this her little side horse flipping business?
Either way it seems like something that would be of interest to the AG since she is likely using charitable assets to support her flipping. I noticed she hasn’t responded to the question about how long she has had the hinny.
She also claims to have rehabbed him and how safe and sane he is on trails and everywhere else. Bitch has only had him a week. She’s hardly fattened him up and gotten to know how his perks and quirks. Just some typical horse dealing from a bottom feeder. Apparently she’s going to PB and flip on the side while HiCaliber can’t raise funds. She found the money for those new lashes, brows and nails somewhere within the last week.
It’s the one she bought off Jose last week after the auction. Still waiting for the other 4 horses she manifested to show up. If you go back a post, there is a short video of stealth mole talking to Jose’s kid about if that `horse’ in his trailer for sale. The horse was actually the hinny/mule as the stealth mole could only see his rump in the trailer. He said it was not for sale and they were `late’ because they had a flat tire or something. He didn’t even show up until well after auction. He then left without unloading and the next thing we know Manson’s rig is outside Wells Fargo full of horses and the hinny/mule.
their little group of diehards are fundraising behind the scenes and running it through their own venmos and paypals. Also, Manson has a relationship with these flippers. She likely took the animals on the cuff and will pay them their price after she sells and pocket the mark up for herself.
While it seems as though it would be illegal to sell horses/hinnies/mules purchased with HiCal funds, the only person who can decide that and to take action is the Attorney General. They received those reports this morning.
There’s a whole lot wrong with that situation. M doesn’t yet have it figured out that whatever she is out there doing, it will be noticed and actions taken to bring it to the attention of the authorities.
It makes me want to post on that FB Sale sight A “Public Service Announcement” about what a lying, evil con she is. Then keep bumping it to the top of the page!! I’m not blocked from THAT page!! 😊
My guess would be that she can buy and sell whatever she wants as long as she isn’t using resources from the rescue. Since that hinny is clearly at HiCaliber I’d like to see evidence that she is reimbursing the rescue for board, feed, and any veterinary and farrier expenses. And I’d also like to see evidence that she used her own money to pay for the gas that was used to transport the hinny.
I would also like to win the lottery. I think we all know what is more likely to happen…
Bonfire actually requires a PayPal account to link for charities and you don’t have to be one to run a shirt campaign. So if they do make money, it goes to their locked PayPal account. You should be able to see who’s linked to the proceeds by clicking on the link.
I do want to comment on one thing.The “kicking and yelling” part … it could have been taken wrong. Getting a down horse up is a highly emotional, difficult thing, especially when the only alternative is death and you know the horse is in the process of dying in front of you. Lots of love and encouragement, but in the organized moment of everyone trying – the horse giving, the 5-6 people helping – it’s not a pretty process sometimes. We recently dealt with this. We tried the normal encouragement and he just couldn’t stand. No way to sling him up because of the stall he was in. The only hope this horse had was to get him to the hospital, which meant he had to get up. The hospital cautioned us – don’t be nice. This is life or death – it’s not abuse when you are trying to save their life. No one kicked the horse, but we had to be harder on him than we would have liked. The local vet who came out to give him a steroid shot for a burst of energy as a last ditch effort and was hands on helping to get him standing said the same thing. Right down to a hard, nearly drawing blood pinch underneath the tail head and above the anus. Literally, when the horse is dying and you have tried for several hours and it’s the LAST attempt before euthanazing and the only chance the horse has is to get on his feet and on the trailer you do what you gotta do.
Had he failed, he would have been loved and loved and loved and let go. He had been loved many times throughout the morning as he rested between tries.
He made it up. He made it to the vet standing. And then we had to let him go anyway as his immune system was shot. Real cancer. Not melanomas, but real cancer, confirmed by a real necropsy to rule out the second theory – they suspected a bastard stranges abscess might have been walled off and burst. We’d had strangles brought in to the farm two years prior.
It was impossibly hard to go through that morning, and I suspect anyone watching would have had a very, very hard time with it. We all were in tears many times that morning.
And you know what, none of us ever had the heart to go live. Go figure.
I get what you’re saying, but that was not the case with Johnny Cade. I’m so sorry for your own loss. There are no words to take away the sadness and loss that such a tragic situation brings about.
I get it about trying to get a downed horse up. I have had to do it and I just won’t resort to violence. I’ve flat handed them on the rump and coaxed them verbablly, but I’d never lay the boots to one and `yell’. I believe this volunteer because I’ve had so many reports of Amanduh kicking the shit out of horses and being rough on them outside life and death situations. That’s her default.
Yeah – I think that’s it. We have immense guilt for how “hard” we had to be but it was 5-6 people, not one person on a halter pulling and another kicking. Heck, the person who had the lead rope kept it slack and just used it to guide because the horse has to have full use of the head to help up. We had one person on each shoulder, hip, and the vet on the tail who did the pinching when we finally got him up, and at that point no amount of encouragement – smacking, stick, etc., was going to do it, it was sheer steroid shot, will of the horse, and a lot of super human strength and prayers. He had been almost up twice and crashed on his face once. It was a horrible, horrible experience, that I’m sure to a person just watching would have looked awful.
I just keep hearing the different vets we talked to that day reminding us “don’t be nice. Don’t beat him, but you have to be not nice. It’s not abuse when trying to save their lives, and he will die if he doesn’t get up.” The vets who mentioned the pinch said it’s also a last ditch effort, though they know vets who will resort to a cattle prod. Our vets would not go that far, neither would we, we’d have chosen to euthanize before that.
I’m sure it’s just my guilt talking and yeah, I’m guessing since it was just Amanda it was nothing like our experience, but it’s been nearly three months and it still haunts us.
I know how it feels. I had a horse down that didn’t want to get up. It took a lot to get her standing but it also was the only way she was going to live. We didn’t abuse her to get her to her feet and I’m sure you didn’t either. You’re trying to startle or motivate them up, not to inflict pain like Amanduh seemed to be doing. Just like when she uses a lunge whip or shank. You aren’t ever supposed to inflict pain on an animal.
I’m so very sorry for your loss and the horrific experience that you went through. I too experienced something similar with my very first horse as a young girl. I was in hysterics. You have my deepest condolences.
And how many times did they keep dragging Johhny outside to “walk” him but only to have him fall down yet again? If the horse was falling down every time they took him out for a walk, guess what… he wasn’t strong enough to be taking out for a walk. There was a reason they stopped doing lives of him walking and that was because he kept falling down and making them look bad. They needed him to look sick to raise money but after he fell on live it raised questions and made waves among their followers they didn’t want to answer. After that point all walk videos were short and seemed to be stopped early. If you watched the way Johhny was walking he appeared to be trying to stop and lie down before he fell down at the end of each of those.
He appeared almost neuro towards the end. He was clearly in system failure from their improper refeeding protocol and for that I blame Manson and whoever was directing that shit show. They put inexperienced volunteers in a position to follow their instructions. No vet would have been telling them to handwalk a horse that needed a sling to hold him up.
The glance I took at some of the Johnny-going-for-a-walk videos gave me the impression that him doing down was exactly what they wanted for the videos and live feeds. He would totter away with such poor balance that he clearly had no business being out of his stall. He would never have been walking if they weren’t pulling and insisting. That killed me, it was so hard to watch. There would be a slight hesitation, and then he would fold up slowly and so gracefully.
My guess is that the dollars flew each time that happened.
I had to tune out for poor Johnny. I could not stand to watch the way they were treating him. I occasionally made brief checks to see if he was still alive. I wondering if he would find a way to pull through in spite of all the ‘help’ he was getting. It was awful.
You know I often think it can’t get any worse and it does every time.
R.I.P. Johnny Cade…💞 hoping for justice as you, Umbra and so many more deserved a chance at LIFE and a chance to be loved.
And now they are begging for milk for the babes. One would think they could figure out how much they are consuming a day and make sure they have the supplies on hand!!
I agree with Lori – I keep hoping it won’t get worse, but it does. It gets harder and harder each time to read these accounts from former volunteers – God Bless you both for staying as long as you did.
Thank you both for coming forward with this heartbreaking account that needed to be told – I am thankful that your eyes have been opened and am hopeful more and more volunteers will come to see the light.
I am also thankful to not have seen some of the blatant and obvious abuses during my volunteer period – I would probably be in jail right now had I been exposed to it. My tolerance for abuse is zero. Had I seen that bitch Taylor squirt citrus juice into the eyes of Frankie the pit bull, I would have ripped a hole in her throat.
I will continue to wait to see HiKill succumb and I will pray for every animal left to make it out alive and safely to somewhere that actually has the animals best interest at heart.
Many thanks to the growing number of former volunteers sharing their horror stories and to Shed and the moles for being diligent in this quest.
RIP JohnnyCade, Umbra, Fili, Thomas, Blazing Idle and all of the victims of HC.
Speaking of Taylor, let’s not forget she was clearly visible in some of the Johnny Cade videos and hanging the sling in his stall. Manson KNEW what she did to Frankie and still allowed her back on the ranch. It makes it all the worse that Frankie was Manson’s dog even though she didn’t seem to like him. Manson’s other dog always makes me sad too. She seems so sweet and always looking for attention and I have never once seen Manson lay a kind hand on her or even pay her any attention. I don’t even know why you’d even bother having a dog you won’t pay attention to.
Shed you just described her daughter.’s plight. You can replace dog with daughter. There was a live video recently and it was after the daughter had been hospitalized and there is Michelle ignoring her as usual.
Is there anything that actually gets Michelle’s undivided attention?
I absolutely loved Frankie and I loved Betty from the first moment I stepped foot on that ranch! Frankie was special – always trying to get in the car with us when we arrived and left – Betty too!! At the time, had circumstances been different at home I would’ve scooped that sweet Frankie up in a heartbeat!!
Taylor can go to hell on a fast train for ALL of her abuse to him and the horses! Manson can have my frequent flyer miles too if she can get a flight there!!
You would have to have mental problems to do something so cruel to an animal like Frankie and then you’ve got other issues if you are Manson and the rest of them that knew about it and shrugged it off. If somebody ever deliberately harmed one of my animals, any of them, I wouldn’t be responsible for what I did to them.
Amanda is a monster!!!! Who the hell kicks a horse for going down, especially one that bony. She has no business being around any animals. I am livid!!! They’re all so heartless.
Thank you for sharing, volunteers. That was a tough read.
Many people who know re-feeding have said that they thought Johnny had a chance and that he wanted a chance. I respect that, and if so, in the hands of a rescue he should have gotten everything he needed to pull through.
But I think that euthanasia would have been far better than what HiCaliber put him through. RIP Johnny Cade.
I had posted, a number of times, the refeeding protocol recommended by UC Davis. Nothing they were doing was following that protocol. I could not believe Romney sitting there shoving food in JC’s mouth, esp while he was down. Agree that euthanasia would have been better then what they put that poor horse through.
they made Johnny take 2 hr trailer-ride from Misners & easily could have brought him right to SLR….but no, they put him thru 2 weeks of hell while they lied & pocketed what, $5K+ for his invisible vet?
that was HIS money meant for his vet care…they exploited him for their own gain, this was pure evil on HC’s part
I agree and is the exact point. I saw it in Johnny’s eyes. He wanted to live but was tired. If he had the proper care from the beginning he would still be alive today, I don’t doubt it. Rescue is giving a real chance with real vet care not 30%.
Can we please have a little fun with Mags Ransom, self proclaimed “journalist extraordinaire”?
Remember how during the Del Mar fiasco she was boasting about how we’ll connected she is and how she could put in a good word for HiCaliber?
Check out the emails from officials at Del Mar. It sure doesn’t sound like Mags was much help! 😂😂😂
I guess that’s what happens when you are only winning Honorable Mention “awards” 🥉
Way to go, Mags, you are quite the power player.
Somebody should mail that off to her good friend at Del Mar who have a distinctly different opinion on HiCaliber than she does. I knew something was super fishy with the whole Maria Borrell story that was her claim to fame. Everybody knew she was spoon fed that story and she had a personal vendetta against Maria. Maria may be a POS but Marg wasn’t in it to save horses. From what I’m told, she couldn’t even take her happy ass out to see those horses when she was flown to KY to pick up her award.
A big thank you to the two volunteers that tried to help JC as well as coming forward with your stories. Thanks for putting yourselves out there. I’m sorry JC had to die the way he did. I’m hoping it was not in vain.
Amanduh, you’re a low life, scamming, horse abusing waste of breath. How do you kick a downed, emaciated horse? You should probably not try to be like Michelle and act the 30% vet. You obviously don’t know what you’re doing either. You don’t realize Magnum is not fat, he’s likely full of worms and starving. Who’s his “vet who is not concerned”? Probably your twisted buddy Manson.
Stick to whatever it is you do best, goes without saying it’s not riding or instructing. Find something that has nothing to do with horses or foals you can rough up. GTF away from anything that needs and deserves compassion and kindness because you have neither.
Curious as to whether or not anyone has asked the AG or ? if they can verify that Umbra actually had the surgery? They must have raised close to $10k for her and that would be major fraud if she didn’t get the surgery. And I don’t believe she did and that pisses me off to no end.
OK, for the very last time. NO MORE about the surgery. We have addressed it over and over again. I am not trying to be cranky but this is FB dramatics and I don’t like it here. The AG also isn’t in on stuff like that.
So did Blankround get turned into Facebook again for having an opinion that contradicts the 6ers? So sad as I was on Craigslist today and there were a ton of Breyer horses going to bad backyard homes. Some potentially had little girls to play with them.
One vintage set of Breyer horses were going for an outrageously low price of $3,000 with the markup up (also known as responsible rescue fees) which includes glue, cheap mascara, toes & teeth and three months of feed (Chic o Flic). We need to beg and lie for at least $10,000 to cover the barest of needs.
Please! Let’s consort and launder money so these Breyer horses can be saved while Blankround sorts out this mess. I’m sure it’s just a form he didn’t know he had to file. Because we all know he’s a nonconformist. 😃
I think it was the monkey humping a deflated football comment that got him in trouble this latest round.
I understand that the poopers were encouraging any and all 6ers to report his page.
Now, to me, that seems like bullying, and I think that pages that bully should be reported as well (HINT, HINT!)
LMAO! I’ve said that myself more than once. Amanduh does look like a monkey fucking a football. Manson still looks like a starfish. They have on defense for what’s going on at HiCaliber so they try to silence everybody. They’ve flagged my youtube for nudity, for age restrictions etc and youtube emails me and I carry on. None of their flags are valid and they don’t stick. Just further proof they have no leg to stand on.
LOL! I have to confess. I’m a dirty Breyer hoarder. I have most of my childhood ones stuffed in a box in the spare room. I made a wreath out of some stablemates though. Yes, I confess I glue gunned them. 😦
Speaking of Blankround, he needs to take his show off FB. Facebook is notoriously weird for what they consider a violation and what they don’t. That’s why I don’t have anything to do with it.
For those of you who hours breyer, please save me from hoarding a few more. I perused eBay and saw a crap ton going for .99 bids, I may or may not have put down 20 bids so far, and I may or may not have won at least 5 of those. I have no clue where I will stick them. Still hoping to score 3 Mesteno ones for less than $4 (2 still in box). I am no longer a child and breyers are for kids, although I was denied breyers as a child and had to deal with the grand champion horses from Walmart, I must be compensating. At least I will not shoot my breyers in the head.
Lol! I didn’t get any Breyer ponies as a child either. I didn’t know what they were until Blankround. Now I’m feeling a huge gap in my life. Maybe I should start a small collection to fill that void…
Hahaha! I actually started to collect porcelain dolls while working in a thrift store. They are creepy and maybe that’s why I got them. They’re in storage probably moldering and getting creepier.😮
I was fine with those porcelain dolls until one day I went to my Mom’s friends house. She had spent a lifetime collecting them (no kids) and as she proudly ushered us into her house, surrounded by hundreds of dolls, I’ve had nightmares about them ever since.
There is a super old one here that came with the house. She lives in the old bunk house now storage shed and that is where she will stay, I swear she turns to watch you!!!! My gramma collected them, sometimes it was just the heads and it freaked me out as a little girl!!! 😂😂
Okay, I got up and looked and all the clothes are in one piece but need desperate washing. The girls hair needs combed and curled. But the Scottish brother sister set is still in decent shape for about 25 years old.
I’m going to have to dig those dolls out now and see what they look like. I have seen people collect doll heads and that never sat right with me. It was kinda like seeing “things” preserved in formaldehyde.
Why did you have to mention you had 5 saddles? I’m not trying to compete or anything but my saddle fetish self said “if she’s got 5 you can add one or two more”. 😀
Ah yes, that personality… Today he was in between peeved that he was asked to lunge and enjoying being out. I think I could teach him to roll over for a carrot. We started doing those stretches after he’s done working off some steam and the little darling seems to have it down.
Halloween is a big deal with my kids, we make ghosts out of tomotato cages (with the lights,) we hang other ghosts from the tree and lamp posts. They even talked me into a big spider that climbs the fence and it has purple lights **GROSS**. We may have to hang the doll heads this year from the carport 😂
@not drinking, YES! FB is a three headed beast nowadays. Perfect description. I’m torn between deleting my account or just deleting all my “friends” b/c some of my family members will only communicate on FB (which makes me nuts).
I’m keeping mine up only to not offend family anymore than I have. 😞 I think another purge is in order though. Even purging some people Facebook is messing around with what I do or don’t see on my feed and that’s irritating.
I had Breyers as a kid but my Barbies were the kind that the legs didn’t bend so they couldn’t ride the Breyers. All the Breyers remained unbroken and later became feral and ran off with the trolls. The Barbies were too self centered and only cared about their outfits, Ken and their corvette they moved on as well.
My life was complete when they came out with Brenda Breyer who could properly ride the Breyers. Until then I had a Fonzie doll that my mom made proper riding clothes for.
My parents strongly discouraged my interest in all things horse in a feeble attempt to assuage my horse craziness (I was born with it!). I never had a Breyer, they wouldn’t let me get cowboy boots, no, I could NOT pet the horsey etc etc. Abooose! So I just went and bid on a Breyer on EBAY. HA!
My mother likes creepy dolls. She has one now that was in my grandmother’s hot as hell attic, in a box of packing peanuts for over 30 years. You can see where the peanuts actually melted to it’s face, and half the hair is missing. I just paid for my purchases on eBay, not to shabby. $20 for my breyers and shipping. My prize find was the black and white Western horse breyer that came with his saddle and bridle. From my digging he is at least from the 60s, and I only paid $1 plus shipping.
That’s a really good find. If I wanted to get ambitious, there are ones in my collection that are probably worth some decent money as they are mostly all discontinued and that was from a time that Breyer didn’t just keep recycling molds. I even have the original box for the laying down Appy foal. I haven’t dusted any of that stuff in ages though.
Just get some of those craft google eyes and put them on them and pretend they are pets! I keep meaning to have some of them in my pocket when I go grocery shopping and just stick them on random produce.
I had 2 Breyers growing up, one of which was the laying down appy foal, the other was the palomino TWH, I have been casually trying to find another TWH since I have no idea where mine ended up.
I really want to get my hands on Le Fire and Suscieon (sp?), but I am a cheap collector and really do not want to pay $100 for them. I did get a Legionario III and a trotter from the 80s, and Sgt Pepper, they will be here in a week. Love being able to grab them for $1. This is why my parents should have stepped up and bought me breyers as a child. It would have stopped what I am doing now in my tracks. I perfer my breyers to be no younger than 2000, but I really love the ones from before the 80s.
I still like looking at them adn I’m glad I’m not a kid. I’d totally need everything from barns to trucks to trailers and that gets expensive. I used to save my allowance and buy Breyers about once a month or so. I had all the tack out at the time which wasn’t much but still awesome and my mom made stable blankets for me. My earlier ones are pretty dinged up because I played hard with them!
My parents constantly got me barbies to try and distract me so I would cut off all their hair and write all over them like they had tattoos. I was way ahead of my time. They should’ve just gotten me the damn Breyers like I asked all the time!
LOL! I’m glad my family was horsey. Not only was my craziness understood, it was encouraged. Was put on my pony before I could walk and was riding infront of my mom in the saddle before I was a year old.
My MIL was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. (Same as my FIL). They have three boys. My daughter wears “Punky Brewster” outfits and climbs trees. She finds it hilarious.
Lol! I kinda watched that the other day too! I crack up at the staged fist fights. 😀 Ya know what I happened to see on Starz (but did not watch) was Barney the Movie!!!
I don’t really remember much about Gunsmoke. I spent as much time as possible being outside growing up because if we got underfoot, we’d be given something to do that was less than fun. I didn’t mind going in the truck to kick bales for the cows and stuff like that though.
It was the after dinner family TV in our house, right along with Lawrence Welk. Before we put pipeline on the farm we watered out of the canal via irrigation ditches. I remember riding along for that.
We had a big creek that ran through our ranch. The cows and horses in pastures all drank out of that and we also had several wells for different locations on the place. Our place was literally thousands of acres so it took a long time to take feed out to the cattle depending on what fields they were in. The horses were always in close though and they all came on a whistle.
That’s neat! Our place was small, under 300 acres. We grew alfalfa, wheat and barley. We only had a few head of steers at a time and they were in a large enclosure.
Yeah, not a great cook either. I do have about 4 things I make super well if I choose to, but other than that, I pick around and eat leftovers. I’ll cook up a bunch of something and then have dinner off it for several days.
He should make a group and keep it closed that way only members can see what’s in it, making it less prone to getting reported unless its from someone inside the group.
So am I missing something? not one word about inewsource report yesterday, not one word about sheds blog, noting from the village and now i was reading the milk post and they as in HC have not replied once to anyone’s questions about the milk or scrubbed a few good questions posted today. Do you think they are making their escape plan or what. Something just doesn’t seem right.
Right now I think her strategy is to ignore everything that is inconvenient. Everytime something new gets released, they pretty much maintain radio silence–which works great on the other hand because it means that we can spend time working on what we have sent in instead of getting stressed at all of the new information coming out and trying to cover it, too. Plus, they have secret groups out there, I am sure.
my first thoughts too, but it’s been quiet to long and M’s big mouth can’t seem to go to long without being on live complaining about things. Nows one of those times i almost wished I belonged to some of those groups. But I don’t and am not gonna start now. Once in a while i’ll look at HG and i’ve looked at the poop page 3 times, nothing there, I read blanks page the other day for the first time. But other then here and checking HC’s page that’s all I see for groups, pages, blogs.
If they are secret, you can’t see them, not even the name of the group.
You can see the name of a closed group, but not anything posted until you have joined.
They have to have something secret going on now. They got caught with so many comments about “secret” fundraising ideas that people were getting screenshots of and now everything has gone quiet. After last auction, a villager commented “did WE get that one” and then silence. They’re up to something.
They haven’t even removed this post yet. Read it carefully.
Shana Davis If the private buyer is paying HiCaliber for caring for Emlyn’s Care Then HiCaliber would be providing and be reimbursed. Apparently an private agreement of some sort was made to save her life and care be given. A private buyer could be anyone within HiCaliber acting as one. Also what about other foals needing milk?
Either way it’s needed.
Whatever the situation with Emlyn is it happened and she needs proper care. Opinions will vary but she still needs care.
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She’s also not going to waste all those fake tears and mascara crying for the camera when she can’t actually cash in. I’m sure as soon as they are allowed to openly beg for money again, they will be living on live feed to make up for lost time. They have many layers of secret groups.
The original was in horrible horseman ship but it’s been shared so many places now, but I think they also made a page called Justice for bella yesterday.
I’ve been following it, but I couldnt bring myself to watch the whole video where the horse died. All I know is that poor horse was terrified from the beginning and she was beautiful. It’s really disturbing.
Here someone made a utube video of the 2 videos tohether. The original 2nd one showing the horse flipping over has been removed from FB but it could be because of the trainer being investigated.
That “trainer” is down the road from me actually. Didn’t hear too much about her until lately though. I had some of her boarders move to my barn and they were pretty under weight (not for long!).
I simply cannot watch. It’s far too painful. Thank you for bringing it to light though since people need to be aware that not everyone that labels themselves as a trainer is actually a true horseman.
Probably preaching to the choir here, but anybody can hang a shingle as a trainer. If you want to send a horse to somebody, go watch them work with horses. Show up earlier than expected. Talk to other people that have used them. What are their credentials? Who trained them? Who recommends them? You could send a horse to Cleve Wells or Shirley Roth because they get results but spend a few days watching what they do to a horse and you’d run the other direction.
I will wear my Blankround Breyear Horse Rescue shirt today in tribute. Can’t wait until the page rises again. I don’t see any other rescues showing up at thrift stores to save them. And Shedrow, hold your head high. Sometimes a wreath IS rescue.
Things are starting to pick up that momentum to begin the spiral on HiCaliber. As of a few minutes ago, nobody is watching / scrubbing comments on their Facebook page. People are looking lost and some are showing their frustrations. Michelle is too busy ‘not being involved on Facebook too much’ on the Shit Stain page. Someone said it’s her running that page – now I read the comments as her and it makes sense.
I think the next few weeks things are gonna go south fast and bad.
She for sure feeds the information to that page but it was originally Pasterfuck and Large Marge running it. Angrid was a contributor as far as info to post as well.
There’s a lot of stuff not getting scrubbed. Interesting.
No ones getting milk according to the feed sheet. And Michelle doesn’t answer questions. If she did they wouldn’t be bleeding followers and volunteers. Don’t hold your breath for any q&a.
Don’t get too excited about their demise either. None of those freeloaders have any place to go. Manson is not going to go down alone or without a fight. She’s just gathering steam to pull a bunch of people under the bus with her and try to lie her way out of this mess she’s created.
Can someone explain why they are posting updates on a 3 year old adoption, but NO responses to their Village’s requests for updates on recent horses? It’s weird. Radio silence indeed.
Also, the documents on the inewsource Document Cloud – WOW those are damning.
I think their general game plan right now is to post as many things that make it look like they’re all happy endings as possible, and just avoid engaging in anything else. That’s the only reason I can really see for Michelle cutting out virtually all lives except for auction. She’s not getting on live and attacking everyone that has something bad to say about her – and really it’s the best game plan they have. Antagonizing people with her lives will just bring more and more bad press.
I think the admins are stuck in a pickle – the questions are too innocent to delete, but too incriminating to answer. Plus, it seems they’re too busy doing things behind the scenes to scrub Facebook or tell people to EAD.
Maybe some of them woke up. How do you defend the indefensible? Also, Manson tends to turtle when she gets in deep so they could be waiting to hear from her what lies they are supposed to tell.
Speculation approaching. Do you think they are running a Secret fb page, donations and all? The audience would be slim I do think as most hard working people don’t want to support another persons lifestyle especially when it includes fraud.
No idea and quite truthfully I’m too tired to care anymore. I just want the horses safe and secure and away from them. What the HC humanoids do, I couldn’t give a flying fuck. Yes, I’m burned out (there’s still a hot coal though) and need to do some serious nappage and drawing.
It’s not like the AG isn’t going to turn over every rock since they put the spotlight on their fraudulent activity… Accomplices galore… They will squeal just like the small time drug dealer to get to the big chihuahua. No offense chihuahua’s.
You can run but you can’t hide. Shed’s right Manson has no where to go, she can climb on her broom and make a few passes but has to land somewhere. With her celebrity she would be spotted in a minute unless perhaps she puts on a habit and retreats to the nearest nunnery where she can lead the choir and become the Singing Horse Killer.
Michelle is one of those folks who makes the old saying “folks go to church to hide their horns” so true. With her mouth though, she would cause any nun to promptly die on the spot from a heart attack.
Looks like the Dollar Menu has resurfaced. And……hang on
“You can help us stay afloat during this time by adopting a puff, a manageable medical case, a horse with minor soundness issues, a training project, or a baby from the nursery.”
Maybe, just maybe they are serious and seriously considering ALL adoption applications and offers. If the other rescue would still consider taking the baby, I would have to say Kudos to HC. Why would they want the extra work and expense now? Just a fact.
Don’t hold your breath. I took a look at the dollar menu and a total of 11 horses are on it. Offloading 11 horses isn’t going to put a dent in the numbers with the way they bring horses in on a weekly basis. It may cut down on overhead when it comes to feeding and maintaining but it won’t last if they just run out and bring in more to replace them. The filly isn’t on the list either but as a private buyer horse she can’t be without raising red flags that it was just a farce.
I hope the list of 11 on the dollar menu isn’t the list for the next pickup of horses killed. And I agree, she’ll just bring more in to replace those, exploit them, then kill them, but not rescue them and treat them well. It’s like a bad movie that for some reason is allowed to keep playing.
I think if people see a horse they are interested, they should apply to adopt it. I don’t agree with people wanting to bail her out so she can continue hoarding and exploiting more animals.
To be fair, there is a whole bunch of stupid going on on both sides of the fence right now. I’ve seen quite a bit of ridiculousness getting spouted from every corner.
That is beyond messed up. Pleading for people to adopt So they don’t have to ‘Euth for space’ and continuing to drag more back. Makes no sense whatsoever. That is not rescue. They are killing animals and lining someone’s pockets while doing it. WTF up followers. Stop demanding everyone else step up and start demanding your rescue do right by the animals they already have.
kinda like when she pays for weight-watchers, but gets Del Taco, Chik-Fil-A, Dairy Queen & pizza all the time….or when she begs for horse feed, yet she lets perfectly good donated rice bran sitting/rotting in her driveway
Right when you think there is a glimmer of hope (they post they need to reduce numbers and so there are a lot of horses available for adoption on the dollar menu) you count to 11 and realize that is not even close to 10% of the 180+ horses stuck there. Sigh. Not a LOT.
Hopefully all the wonderful Villagers will step up and provide good homes for these 11. Or they will add another 70 horses to that list.
I guess this is like throwing rose petals on top of a huge manure pile. It might look pretty but it still stinks.
(My rant below is not directed at you Perlino – I’m just replying here out or convenience)
I’m sure I’m preaching to the choir but I just want to say to the “haters” and “horror girls” that are truly interested in adopting from HC:
Stop posting your adoption offers on the Horror page. It is futile.
1. Change your privacy settings on Facebook so that only you can see your group memberships and friends list and change your “past posts” to private.
2. Stop commenting every five minutes on the Horror page, and consider deleting old, critical, comments. They are checking the page to see if you commented. Comments on public groups are public – your privacy settings don’t matter the moment you actually comment.
3. Submit an actual application, and don’t bitch about the process. They are slow. They are going to run a credit/background check on you. You may disagree with it – but you need to decide if it is worth it to get horses out.
4. Keep a paper trail of all communication between you and the adoption team (in case things go south).
5. If you are rejected, politely request a reason why and document it. Consider submitting evidence to the AG office if it seems like the reason for the denial is questionable (keep in mind they are fully within their rights to reject offers from anyone that has publicly disparaged them, so don’t waste the AG’s time with it if that is the reason for the rejection).
6. If you are rejected you need to disengage. Don’t immediately go blast them on Facebook. They will spin it to show they were justified and you will loose credibility.
7. If you are approved and a horse is delivered in poor condition, document it and submit the evidence to the approptiate authorities. Do this BEFORE posting your story on a public page so the authorities have time to investigate without interference. You need to be patient.
Posting an offer on the Horror page, or even commenting on the page, is a sure way to ensure your offer is ignored, and will accomplish nothing. You could be gazzilionaire with stalls made of gold – they are still going to reject your offer if they know you have made anything that resembles a public criticism.
Please tell me that the 2nd person speaking has reported this to state vet. If this is not ann eye witness account of practicing medicine without a license, what is? Both Michelle and Amanda should be held accountable!
I want to know if the first person reported the kicking to the authorities!!!!
I mean second!
Sadly, that’s not the type of things the authorities will move on. It’s upsetting and it’s wrong, but it’s not on film. They are going to be more concerned with the administrating of drugs and lack of a real vet overseeing any of this. Things like that. The things that bring us to this cause aren’t going to be the things that bring relief. We talk about them to remind ourselves why we’re here but the laws are such that it will be technicalities that bring an end to this shit show and we’ve got those covered too.
I mean second!
There is one place that brings the mind-boggling stream of insanity together for those who want to know, and that is this blog. [salute icon here] Otherwise it is hard to organize and understand all the pieces of information. Thank you, Shed, for continuing what has to be a grinding experience. You are doing some important good.
Ex-volunteers, I am so sorry that you found yourselves in an untenable position, one that was against everything you stand for, when all you wanted to do was help the horses that need it so desperately.
One thing I think is important to how this unfolds is seeing that HC shows each participant only a piece of what is going on, and while it is happening, rarely does one have a view of the whole story. When people ask why HC hasn’t been shut down, why more representatives of officialdom, even and especially the vets, haven’t been more pro-active, the Johnny Cade story illustrates that each of them knows only a very filtered part of the story. I’m sure that is true of volunteers as well.
As we know from other info, HC called several vets about Johnny, but asked only very limited questions that didn’t give his true condition. That short un-informative phone call was the vet’s total exposure to Johnny. The vets were also led to believe that some other vet had the lead on the case, so no need to go into it further. The humane society is no stranger to sad-looking horses and knew only their bit. The volunteers have limited experience. And so on.
Another thing that is so vividly illustrated is how little the HC principals have learned in all their years of doing this – especially Michelle! For all the exposure they have had to hurting and sick horses, to all her claims of being a 30% vet, she knows less than I do (and that’s a low bar, I’m a one-at-a-time ammy owner who just knows about things I’ve paid vet bills on 😉 ).
So no surprise Michelle/HiCaliber hasn’t taught anything constructive to people who are consistently there and hands-on, like Robyn and Amanda. Robyn seems to tail Michelle so closely, and yet is clueless on the basics. Amanda must have some way of failing to learn even that which is obvious to an observer. Romney is a whole other universe. From her scattered published history, Romney has been around horse rescue for years before HiCaliber started, and yet after all this time she knows absolutely nothing about horses.
Probably the most important thing to me about the entire effort at awareness:
From an unrelated experience several years ago I learned another thing that’s important here: People who con have an interesting pattern of returning to their basic format, again and again, even if they have been caught at it in the past. They may change the story, they may shuffle and dodge, but they keep coming back to the thing that worked for them for even a limited time. Even though that’s a trait that does tend to get them caught in the end.
So the important thing is that this is never over with these individuals. Even if HiCaliber is over one day, Michelle, Romney and the gang are not over, ever. Even if they suffer huge financial sanctions, even if they go to prison. Some day they will be back with similar horse and horse-rescue schemes. And in Michelle’s case, every-species-of-animal schemes.
The country is crazy with other past abusers who are back at their old tricks, and in the case of Michelle and Romney, and likely Robyn and Amanda as well, that’s something to actively create barriers against, now while it is all fresh. Just look at the pattern of other past abusers who were outed, some even had court records, and yet came back to their favorite con and abuse field again – and again. Because they connect with good-hearted, well-meaning people in rescue or horse-care who will never had heard of all this. Even if people did read something about it, memories are short and records not easily accessible.
It is vital to get a record out there in the public realm that will continue to give people new to them a heads-up, for years and years to come.
No. Romney had never been around horses before HiC but she was certainly involved in grifting money off feedlot horses before HiC. Via the Internet. Not a hands on horse person at all. Didn’t even know what palomino meant before HiC.
Perlino, just for the record, I did not say that Romney had been around horses. Rather, that she had been associated with *horse rescue*. She had been working with Laura Bell and Starlight Sanctuary before she and Michelle came up with HiCaliber.
My point is not how much hands-on-horses experience Romney has had (apparently little to none). My point is that Romney has chosen to associate herself with horse rescue for quite a long time.
It’s worth thinking about *why*, out of all the things she could do with her time, Romney has chosen to be close to horse rescue, even though she clearly has no real interest in horses. See what I mean? 😉
[I’m saying something without stating it outright, since I have no hard evidence that proves it beyond argument.]
I think a lot of it has to do with rescue is easy money to RFB and Manson. Both of them have been associated with dog rescues in the past but the problem is that’s a bigger and broader community. Too much competition and not as easy to get away with shit. They stumbled on the horse thing and realized it was a smaller pond and, sorry to say this ,but horses bring out the crazies. It was a goldmine for their grifting. I highly doubt it ever had much to do with wanting to make things better for horses or bring about change. So much easier to explain away and dispose of horses that you can’t `move’ than dogs.
And yes I agree with you about that being a long distance deal, through the age of electronics. 🙂
Shed that’s exactly along my line of thought as well. I gave this a great deal of thought as Hurricane Harvey played out and caught out so many horse owners living not that far from me. It seems to be much too easy for people to store them and ignore them as being always there and not needing anything, since they are quiet and often tucked into small pastures away from residential area visibility.
The auctions and threat of slaughter is a great button-push for people who want to save something, right now. And yeah, I concluded back in high school that something about horses attracts crazy people.
But the care and treatment of horses can be complex and expensive. And physically hard to perform. Unless someone decides to minimize or skip those parts, as seems to be happening with HC.
Please tell me that the 2nd person speaking has reported this to state vet. If this is not ann eye witness account of practicing medicine without a license, what is? Both Michelle and Amanda should be held accountable! And Amanda…kicking a downed skinny horse….please please come visit our place….please do!
It has been reported.
So glad!
Yes, these accounts have been submitted and I have the contact details of both volunteers. It’s all good.
So Amanda should also be held accountable for practicing without a license. Correct ?
Only after she visits me…her time and place…
They starved Johnny even more.
They killed him.
They blame haters.
When will this end?
For the first time, I actually couldn’t read the blog. I’ve been having to bypass the photos and videos on the last few, and I had to avoid the Granny the Goat Facebook article, but I couldn’t even read about JC. I thought the pictures of the blind palomino mare, Little Bear, were bad enough that I have to hurry past (that mare really got to me), but JC? Worst ever. He seemed like such a nice little horse. But here is knowledge, though, that his death was not in vain.
RIP JC. May the knowledge of your death and suffering keep many another horse from being in the same position.
I think one or the things, beside the obvious torture, that got to me about JC is how badly he wanted to live. He wanted to eat and stay on this feet and these people failed him in the worst ways possible. It always makes me cringe to see them standing over a downed horse, a prey animal, thinking they are giving comfort when just the opposite is happening. Even go back to that video where Manson just walks in and hits him with a needle while he was down. She didn’t even pause to give him comfort or lay a kind hand on him. Just stood over top of him and hit him in the vein and walked away. I guess I take some comfort knowing there were at least some volunteers with him that gave actual comfort and compassion off camera.
I just read the HC post about JC. I want to know when Manson was crying? In the car on the way to Toys R Us?!! at toys r us?!! Her eyelash appt?!! Of course in front of the camera. That’s how she gets her money. All I can say is WOW! For these volunteers to come forward, it took a lot of courage. I would have more respect for Manson if she would take some accountability. I respect anyone willing to admit to mistakes. We are all human so we ALL make mistakes (YES bitch, you too make mistakes) but to admit them takes big balls.
Even in the live feed they did after his death she was stone faced until the audience built and then turned on the tears.
This brought back how sickening the whole Johnny Cade thing was. Amanda f-ing KICKED him?!?!? That’s one of the last things he experienced?!?!? It’s obvious she is clueless, unethical and clearly not a horsewoman, but I didn’t realize she was evil also. Where is Anonymous? They hate animal abusers and are very effective at tormenting them…be great to see these wastes of humanity get a taste of their own medicine.
I’ve actually had several reports from independent sources that Amanduh is brutal on horses and kicking the shit out of them is a daily occurrence.
Once upon a time, HiCaliber reached out to Anonymous to hack me. LOL. I still have that screen shot somewhere.
Omg that’s so sad it’s hilarious
Uh, I don’t think they go after someone because some fat lazy psychopathic horse killer asks them to. However a fat lazy psychopathic horse killer sounds right up Anonymous’ alley. Really. Kicking horses is a regular occurrence for Amanduh? I think someone needs to kick the living shit out of Amanduh. We can always hope she takes a shot at the wrong horse and said horse knocks some sense into her or some ugliness out of her I guess. Obviously Johnny Cade couldn’t do it, he didn’t look like a horse who would’ve done it on his healthiest day though. I really hope everything those assholes have put those poor horses through comes right back at them tenfold and they experience nothing but misery the rest of their pathetic lives, until their cold black shriveled souls report to hell for their very long and well-deserved stay.
That’s pretty creepy!
That most recent article (formerlyknownasd posted the link) was interesting. A lot more detail illustrating what a liar M is. I love how UC Davis said no about the eyeballs.
This post today truly devastated me. Not sure how anybody could still believe M cares anything about the horses. I have friends who still support this shit show and I’m starting to worry about their mental stability to be honest. I do not understand people at all.
Don’t forget to follow the links in the article to the Del Mar emails! Eye opening, as well, especially M’s entitled comment when questioned: “even if I had, wasn’t it for the horses?”
Just reading though the links now and wondering why Dan DeSousa is the one that contacted the SD Zoological Society when DAS was supposedly recusing themselves from the investigation. Shouldn’t SPCA LA have been the one contacting them?
I’m going to be a bit hyperbolic for a moment, but we are talking a conflict of interest here. What if the Zoological Society wrote back and said “Oh yeah, we take organs from HiCaliber and pay them $10,000 per testicle?” To protect his buddy Michelle Mr. DeSousa could have just deleted that email and pretended it never happened.
Also, WTF is up with the sudden change in font on the email?
I don’t trust Lieutenant Dan. I think he jumped on this now only because he’s feeling some heat. Before it was much easier to sweep people under the rug. Whenever my fonts change I’m trying to make a point or have done a shabby cut n paste.
Silly me, I went on my rant before clicking the links and reading. Oh well, I guess I’ll eat crow. The zoo did collect their own specimens male and female. But I’ll be still say Michelle and Amanduh are dumb bitches. I’ll blow my ignorance off as a fail forward.
Yeah, I’m going to have to read ALL of them.
Hey… Romney is a trainer now? I really need to get cracking on my studies so that I too can claim to be a trainer.
I don’t mean any disrespect to you OG, but I don’t think I could remain friends with those people. I’m sure it bothers you. It would just drive me crazy especially with all of these moles and volunteers telling what’s really going on behind the scenes. I just couldn’t tolerate it.
I guess I should be more specific and say facebook friends. And it does get to me. I think a purge of “friends” is in order honestly. I could not spend physical time with a person who could be so obtuse as to still follow HiKill though. So at least there’s that to redeem me 😉
Seriously, OG, I am the same way. My FB page is small, simply friends and family so that I can trust what I post. Yes, I get hundreds of requests, but I don’t feel the need to accept them simply because I follow rescues.
And if someone on my page were stupid enough to continue following HiCal, then obviously they aren’t someone I would be friends with in real life, so why would I need them on FB?
Oh ok I get it. Not really close friends then. Cause I think I would have to smack them upside the head in person. 😁
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Their ignorance even shows in the posts they think are “feel good” posts. The photos this morning… Tannenbaum lying in deep shit with a bloated belly. Emerson and Cassidy in a pen that’s falling down around them. Jayd looks like shit and has been there since last August. Techie also has the bloat belly while his hips stick out… the fact that they think these photos show anything positive says a lot.
They finally showed Dragon as well……….
Those were old pics. The photo of all the bays laying flat out was posted a least a month ago.
You could tell none of that was from today because they would have been laying in mud.
We are supposed to believe it’s all wonderful and peace there though. Yeah right, when pigs fly!
I was wondering why it wasn’t muddy if it had just rained but just figured you folks in Cali didn’t have mud like here lol. So it makes sense that they are old pictures.
I was wondering why they showed all the falling down fences myself….
Techie looks really bad. Really thin and really bony. He is not thriving in any way. Neglected and dirty, unhandled, having to fight for food is not the way to raise a baby. Rescue horses need rescued for a reason. This is not rescue. This is BLM conditions.
Worse than BLM!
So, Michelle is selling a hinny on the SoCal Horse/Tack Swap Facebook page. Anyone remember if this one came in from auction? Is this a HiCaliber horse (asset) she is trying to sell on her own? Or, is this her little side horse flipping business?
On the post, she claimed it was through her directly. She has me blocked so I had to look from a friend’s page to see… interesting.
Either way it seems like something that would be of interest to the AG since she is likely using charitable assets to support her flipping. I noticed she hasn’t responded to the question about how long she has had the hinny.
She also claims to have rehabbed him and how safe and sane he is on trails and everywhere else. Bitch has only had him a week. She’s hardly fattened him up and gotten to know how his perks and quirks. Just some typical horse dealing from a bottom feeder. Apparently she’s going to PB and flip on the side while HiCaliber can’t raise funds. She found the money for those new lashes, brows and nails somewhere within the last week.
Oh, OK Shed, didn’t read your reply. So I guess the bitch can.
It’s the one she bought off Jose last week after the auction. Still waiting for the other 4 horses she manifested to show up. If you go back a post, there is a short video of stealth mole talking to Jose’s kid about if that `horse’ in his trailer for sale. The horse was actually the hinny/mule as the stealth mole could only see his rump in the trailer. He said it was not for sale and they were `late’ because they had a flat tire or something. He didn’t even show up until well after auction. He then left without unloading and the next thing we know Manson’s rig is outside Wells Fargo full of horses and the hinny/mule.
And how is she paying for these animals and are they at the ranch?
their little group of diehards are fundraising behind the scenes and running it through their own venmos and paypals. Also, Manson has a relationship with these flippers. She likely took the animals on the cuff and will pay them their price after she sells and pocket the mark up for herself.
Ratlips is pimping HC tees on Bonfire, up to about $1200 as of today between 2 campaigns
Interesting. Doesn’t bonfire only give to charities or something or is that another website I’m thinking?
Bonfire allows anyone to create a fundraiser. I suppose Ratlips (who is that?) can fundraise and send Michelle a gift.
Ratlips aka Heather Ratliff.
good question, not sure how Bonfire works (or how Ratlips wires cash to HC)
Just wondering guys…..can she “personally” sell horses online that she picked up from flippers if she not using HC name??
While it seems as though it would be illegal to sell horses/hinnies/mules purchased with HiCal funds, the only person who can decide that and to take action is the Attorney General. They received those reports this morning.
There’s a whole lot wrong with that situation. M doesn’t yet have it figured out that whatever she is out there doing, it will be noticed and actions taken to bring it to the attention of the authorities.
That bitch will try anything. I’m very greatful that the AG has been notified of her “new” means of grifting.
It makes me want to post on that FB Sale sight A “Public Service Announcement” about what a lying, evil con she is. Then keep bumping it to the top of the page!! I’m not blocked from THAT page!! 😊
My guess would be that she can buy and sell whatever she wants as long as she isn’t using resources from the rescue. Since that hinny is clearly at HiCaliber I’d like to see evidence that she is reimbursing the rescue for board, feed, and any veterinary and farrier expenses. And I’d also like to see evidence that she used her own money to pay for the gas that was used to transport the hinny.
I would also like to win the lottery. I think we all know what is more likely to happen…
I’d also like to see the evidence that she purchased it herself, since she has no income.
Bonfire actually requires a PayPal account to link for charities and you don’t have to be one to run a shirt campaign. So if they do make money, it goes to their locked PayPal account. You should be able to see who’s linked to the proceeds by clicking on the link.
Not if Ratlips is running it through her PayPal account and paying HiCal bills with it.
Every day just gets worse.
But.
I do want to comment on one thing.The “kicking and yelling” part … it could have been taken wrong. Getting a down horse up is a highly emotional, difficult thing, especially when the only alternative is death and you know the horse is in the process of dying in front of you. Lots of love and encouragement, but in the organized moment of everyone trying – the horse giving, the 5-6 people helping – it’s not a pretty process sometimes. We recently dealt with this. We tried the normal encouragement and he just couldn’t stand. No way to sling him up because of the stall he was in. The only hope this horse had was to get him to the hospital, which meant he had to get up. The hospital cautioned us – don’t be nice. This is life or death – it’s not abuse when you are trying to save their life. No one kicked the horse, but we had to be harder on him than we would have liked. The local vet who came out to give him a steroid shot for a burst of energy as a last ditch effort and was hands on helping to get him standing said the same thing. Right down to a hard, nearly drawing blood pinch underneath the tail head and above the anus. Literally, when the horse is dying and you have tried for several hours and it’s the LAST attempt before euthanazing and the only chance the horse has is to get on his feet and on the trailer you do what you gotta do.
Had he failed, he would have been loved and loved and loved and let go. He had been loved many times throughout the morning as he rested between tries.
He made it up. He made it to the vet standing. And then we had to let him go anyway as his immune system was shot. Real cancer. Not melanomas, but real cancer, confirmed by a real necropsy to rule out the second theory – they suspected a bastard stranges abscess might have been walled off and burst. We’d had strangles brought in to the farm two years prior.
It was impossibly hard to go through that morning, and I suspect anyone watching would have had a very, very hard time with it. We all were in tears many times that morning.
And you know what, none of us ever had the heart to go live. Go figure.
I get what you’re saying, but that was not the case with Johnny Cade. I’m so sorry for your own loss. There are no words to take away the sadness and loss that such a tragic situation brings about.
I get it about trying to get a downed horse up. I have had to do it and I just won’t resort to violence. I’ve flat handed them on the rump and coaxed them verbablly, but I’d never lay the boots to one and `yell’. I believe this volunteer because I’ve had so many reports of Amanduh kicking the shit out of horses and being rough on them outside life and death situations. That’s her default.
Yeah – I think that’s it. We have immense guilt for how “hard” we had to be but it was 5-6 people, not one person on a halter pulling and another kicking. Heck, the person who had the lead rope kept it slack and just used it to guide because the horse has to have full use of the head to help up. We had one person on each shoulder, hip, and the vet on the tail who did the pinching when we finally got him up, and at that point no amount of encouragement – smacking, stick, etc., was going to do it, it was sheer steroid shot, will of the horse, and a lot of super human strength and prayers. He had been almost up twice and crashed on his face once. It was a horrible, horrible experience, that I’m sure to a person just watching would have looked awful.
I just keep hearing the different vets we talked to that day reminding us “don’t be nice. Don’t beat him, but you have to be not nice. It’s not abuse when trying to save their lives, and he will die if he doesn’t get up.” The vets who mentioned the pinch said it’s also a last ditch effort, though they know vets who will resort to a cattle prod. Our vets would not go that far, neither would we, we’d have chosen to euthanize before that.
I’m sure it’s just my guilt talking and yeah, I’m guessing since it was just Amanda it was nothing like our experience, but it’s been nearly three months and it still haunts us.
I know how it feels. I had a horse down that didn’t want to get up. It took a lot to get her standing but it also was the only way she was going to live. We didn’t abuse her to get her to her feet and I’m sure you didn’t either. You’re trying to startle or motivate them up, not to inflict pain like Amanduh seemed to be doing. Just like when she uses a lunge whip or shank. You aren’t ever supposed to inflict pain on an animal.
I’m so very sorry for your loss and the horrific experience that you went through. I too experienced something similar with my very first horse as a young girl. I was in hysterics. You have my deepest condolences.
And how many times did they keep dragging Johhny outside to “walk” him but only to have him fall down yet again? If the horse was falling down every time they took him out for a walk, guess what… he wasn’t strong enough to be taking out for a walk. There was a reason they stopped doing lives of him walking and that was because he kept falling down and making them look bad. They needed him to look sick to raise money but after he fell on live it raised questions and made waves among their followers they didn’t want to answer. After that point all walk videos were short and seemed to be stopped early. If you watched the way Johhny was walking he appeared to be trying to stop and lie down before he fell down at the end of each of those.
He appeared almost neuro towards the end. He was clearly in system failure from their improper refeeding protocol and for that I blame Manson and whoever was directing that shit show. They put inexperienced volunteers in a position to follow their instructions. No vet would have been telling them to handwalk a horse that needed a sling to hold him up.
The glance I took at some of the Johnny-going-for-a-walk videos gave me the impression that him doing down was exactly what they wanted for the videos and live feeds. He would totter away with such poor balance that he clearly had no business being out of his stall. He would never have been walking if they weren’t pulling and insisting. That killed me, it was so hard to watch. There would be a slight hesitation, and then he would fold up slowly and so gracefully.
My guess is that the dollars flew each time that happened.
I had to tune out for poor Johnny. I could not stand to watch the way they were treating him. I occasionally made brief checks to see if he was still alive. I wondering if he would find a way to pull through in spite of all the ‘help’ he was getting. It was awful.
She and Manson are cut from the same cloth….trash!
My heart is broken. Aside from everything else, kicking a downed, frail, emaciated, fucking BABY?! FUCKING SERIOUSLY???
You know I often think it can’t get any worse and it does every time.
R.I.P. Johnny Cade…💞 hoping for justice as you, Umbra and so many more deserved a chance at LIFE and a chance to be loved.
And now they are begging for milk for the babes. One would think they could figure out how much they are consuming a day and make sure they have the supplies on hand!!
Too bad she denied little Emlyn the chance of having a mother. Then they wouldn’t have to worry about milk.
I agree!! God forbid they let that mare and Emlyn bond and she get the nurturing she needs in a nice facility. Stupid woman.
Actually, they’re begging for people to call for them (wink wink wink).
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I agree with Lori – I keep hoping it won’t get worse, but it does. It gets harder and harder each time to read these accounts from former volunteers – God Bless you both for staying as long as you did.
Thank you both for coming forward with this heartbreaking account that needed to be told – I am thankful that your eyes have been opened and am hopeful more and more volunteers will come to see the light.
I am also thankful to not have seen some of the blatant and obvious abuses during my volunteer period – I would probably be in jail right now had I been exposed to it. My tolerance for abuse is zero. Had I seen that bitch Taylor squirt citrus juice into the eyes of Frankie the pit bull, I would have ripped a hole in her throat.
I will continue to wait to see HiKill succumb and I will pray for every animal left to make it out alive and safely to somewhere that actually has the animals best interest at heart.
Many thanks to the growing number of former volunteers sharing their horror stories and to Shed and the moles for being diligent in this quest.
RIP JohnnyCade, Umbra, Fili, Thomas, Blazing Idle and all of the victims of HC.
Speaking of Taylor, let’s not forget she was clearly visible in some of the Johnny Cade videos and hanging the sling in his stall. Manson KNEW what she did to Frankie and still allowed her back on the ranch. It makes it all the worse that Frankie was Manson’s dog even though she didn’t seem to like him. Manson’s other dog always makes me sad too. She seems so sweet and always looking for attention and I have never once seen Manson lay a kind hand on her or even pay her any attention. I don’t even know why you’d even bother having a dog you won’t pay attention to.
Shed you just described her daughter.’s plight. You can replace dog with daughter. There was a live video recently and it was after the daughter had been hospitalized and there is Michelle ignoring her as usual.
Is there anything that actually gets Michelle’s undivided attention?
Money.
I heard tacos and Chick Fil A can.
Michelle gets Michelle’s undivided attention.
I absolutely loved Frankie and I loved Betty from the first moment I stepped foot on that ranch! Frankie was special – always trying to get in the car with us when we arrived and left – Betty too!! At the time, had circumstances been different at home I would’ve scooped that sweet Frankie up in a heartbeat!!
Taylor can go to hell on a fast train for ALL of her abuse to him and the horses! Manson can have my frequent flyer miles too if she can get a flight there!!
You would have to have mental problems to do something so cruel to an animal like Frankie and then you’ve got other issues if you are Manson and the rest of them that knew about it and shrugged it off. If somebody ever deliberately harmed one of my animals, any of them, I wouldn’t be responsible for what I did to them.
It would be nice if all the abusers at HiKill would receive all the abuse they inflict on the animals back tenfold.
Amanda is a monster!!!! Who the hell kicks a horse for going down, especially one that bony. She has no business being around any animals. I am livid!!! They’re all so heartless.
Thank you for sharing, volunteers. That was a tough read.
And to think she has that puppy. Holy crap poor pup.
Many people who know re-feeding have said that they thought Johnny had a chance and that he wanted a chance. I respect that, and if so, in the hands of a rescue he should have gotten everything he needed to pull through.
But I think that euthanasia would have been far better than what HiCaliber put him through. RIP Johnny Cade.
I had posted, a number of times, the refeeding protocol recommended by UC Davis. Nothing they were doing was following that protocol. I could not believe Romney sitting there shoving food in JC’s mouth, esp while he was down. Agree that euthanasia would have been better then what they put that poor horse through.
they made Johnny take 2 hr trailer-ride from Misners & easily could have brought him right to SLR….but no, they put him thru 2 weeks of hell while they lied & pocketed what, $5K+ for his invisible vet?
that was HIS money meant for his vet care…they exploited him for their own gain, this was pure evil on HC’s part
It’s so awful. I couldn’t even read the Granny goat post.
That one was horrific.
That trailer ride was so unnecessary and horribly cruel to Johnny. They used him for another way to get money.
plus they made him stand in trailer w/ that poor donkey all day while Manson made deals w/Salvador, just awful
The dead donkey. That’s the one that didn’t even make the trip home.
I agree and is the exact point. I saw it in Johnny’s eyes. He wanted to live but was tired. If he had the proper care from the beginning he would still be alive today, I don’t doubt it. Rescue is giving a real chance with real vet care not 30%.
Can we please have a little fun with Mags Ransom, self proclaimed “journalist extraordinaire”?
Remember how during the Del Mar fiasco she was boasting about how we’ll connected she is and how she could put in a good word for HiCaliber?
Check out the emails from officials at Del Mar. It sure doesn’t sound like Mags was much help! 😂😂😂
I guess that’s what happens when you are only winning Honorable Mention “awards” 🥉
Way to go, Mags, you are quite the power player.
Link to Del Mar emails about HiCaliber:
https://www.documentcloud.org/public/search/projectid:37829-HiCaliber-Del-Mar-Lilac-fire
Tee hee
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Margaret Ransom
#IAmPoop
You got that right Sista….🤣
Lol!
Congratulations Mags ! You won that argument. You are poop !!
Somebody should mail that off to her good friend at Del Mar who have a distinctly different opinion on HiCaliber than she does. I knew something was super fishy with the whole Maria Borrell story that was her claim to fame. Everybody knew she was spoon fed that story and she had a personal vendetta against Maria. Maria may be a POS but Marg wasn’t in it to save horses. From what I’m told, she couldn’t even take her happy ass out to see those horses when she was flown to KY to pick up her award.
Yes, yes you are Margie. A very large turd. Impressive.
A big thank you to the two volunteers that tried to help JC as well as coming forward with your stories. Thanks for putting yourselves out there. I’m sorry JC had to die the way he did. I’m hoping it was not in vain.
Amanduh, you’re a low life, scamming, horse abusing waste of breath. How do you kick a downed, emaciated horse? You should probably not try to be like Michelle and act the 30% vet. You obviously don’t know what you’re doing either. You don’t realize Magnum is not fat, he’s likely full of worms and starving. Who’s his “vet who is not concerned”? Probably your twisted buddy Manson.
Stick to whatever it is you do best, goes without saying it’s not riding or instructing. Find something that has nothing to do with horses or foals you can rough up. GTF away from anything that needs and deserves compassion and kindness because you have neither.
Curious as to whether or not anyone has asked the AG or ? if they can verify that Umbra actually had the surgery? They must have raised close to $10k for her and that would be major fraud if she didn’t get the surgery. And I don’t believe she did and that pisses me off to no end.
OK, for the very last time. NO MORE about the surgery. We have addressed it over and over again. I am not trying to be cranky but this is FB dramatics and I don’t like it here. The AG also isn’t in on stuff like that.
Shed is pretty certain that Umbra got the surgery
So did Blankround get turned into Facebook again for having an opinion that contradicts the 6ers? So sad as I was on Craigslist today and there were a ton of Breyer horses going to bad backyard homes. Some potentially had little girls to play with them.
One vintage set of Breyer horses were going for an outrageously low price of $3,000 with the markup up (also known as responsible rescue fees) which includes glue, cheap mascara, toes & teeth and three months of feed (Chic o Flic). We need to beg and lie for at least $10,000 to cover the barest of needs.
Please! Let’s consort and launder money so these Breyer horses can be saved while Blankround sorts out this mess. I’m sure it’s just a form he didn’t know he had to file. Because we all know he’s a nonconformist. 😃
LMFAO!!!! Poor Romeo Gnome, he just pisses on people left and right 😂😂😂
He’s made me laugh with his songs lately.😃
Me too. At least the ones I could figure out the original for. I kept wishing he’d add `sung to the tune of’ so I could catch the whole joke.
I had a hard time there too. I was cracking up when he did his live singing one though.
I think it was the monkey humping a deflated football comment that got him in trouble this latest round.
I understand that the poopers were encouraging any and all 6ers to report his page.
Now, to me, that seems like bullying, and I think that pages that bully should be reported as well (HINT, HINT!)
Romeo Gnome does not GAF!! He is always in FB jail for something on his 4 different pages 😂😂. He will make a come back.
He has 4 different pages? Do tell what his other 3 are!! LOL…Id love to follow him. It’s nice to get a good laugh once in a while.
LMAO! I’ve said that myself more than once. Amanduh does look like a monkey fucking a football. Manson still looks like a starfish. They have on defense for what’s going on at HiCaliber so they try to silence everybody. They’ve flagged my youtube for nudity, for age restrictions etc and youtube emails me and I carry on. None of their flags are valid and they don’t stick. Just further proof they have no leg to stand on.
Lol! Wasn’t is a simian humping a deflated…
That’s his version. My version as always had deflation the football as optional.
Lol! The greatest form of flattery and all…😃
Full disclosure, it’s a racetrack thing and I believe Blankround is a racetracker too.
The things I learn… I just thought it was an accurate description and you were especially witty. 😀
Nope, not my brainchild for that one. It was a common insult at the racetrack for a bad rider.
😀
He should be making a come back right about now 😂😂
I’ve been off my game the last couple days or decades… You choose. Anywho I can’t find it if it’s back up… I need a couple giggles!
He is appealing for BRBH, in the mean time:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1810756845892125&id=1810755372558939
It didn’t work. I’ll just be patient. Thank you!
Well I am good for nothing this morning 😂😂. Short story, he is blaming the “Sixers” and that he will be back one way or another 😂😂
Lol! Thanks for the scoop!
There went my drink!!! 😂😂😂
LOL! I have to confess. I’m a dirty Breyer hoarder. I have most of my childhood ones stuffed in a box in the spare room. I made a wreath out of some stablemates though. Yes, I confess I glue gunned them. 😦
Speaking of Blankround, he needs to take his show off FB. Facebook is notoriously weird for what they consider a violation and what they don’t. That’s why I don’t have anything to do with it.
For those of you who hours breyer, please save me from hoarding a few more. I perused eBay and saw a crap ton going for .99 bids, I may or may not have put down 20 bids so far, and I may or may not have won at least 5 of those. I have no clue where I will stick them. Still hoping to score 3 Mesteno ones for less than $4 (2 still in box). I am no longer a child and breyers are for kids, although I was denied breyers as a child and had to deal with the grand champion horses from Walmart, I must be compensating. At least I will not shoot my breyers in the head.
LOL!!! I am not help at all.
Lol! I didn’t get any Breyer ponies as a child either. I didn’t know what they were until Blankround. Now I’m feeling a huge gap in my life. Maybe I should start a small collection to fill that void…
I have Breyers and Deagons all over my damn house!!! Better then the creepy porcelain dolls that watch your every move 😂😂😂
Hahaha! I actually started to collect porcelain dolls while working in a thrift store. They are creepy and maybe that’s why I got them. They’re in storage probably moldering and getting creepier.😮
That’s even creepier somehow.
I was fine with those porcelain dolls until one day I went to my Mom’s friends house. She had spent a lifetime collecting them (no kids) and as she proudly ushered us into her house, surrounded by hundreds of dolls, I’ve had nightmares about them ever since.
There is a super old one here that came with the house. She lives in the old bunk house now storage shed and that is where she will stay, I swear she turns to watch you!!!! My gramma collected them, sometimes it was just the heads and it freaked me out as a little girl!!! 😂😂
You should hang the doll heads from a creepy tree somewhere.
OMG!!! That is a great idea!!!! Thanks Shed
That creepy old doll is probably collector gold.
Most likely, you can come over and check it out 😂😂😂
Er, um….
Sure that sounds great….
mmmmm, I’ll call you, OK
**shuffles off nervously**
Lol!!!
Okay, I got up and looked and all the clothes are in one piece but need desperate washing. The girls hair needs combed and curled. But the Scottish brother sister set is still in decent shape for about 25 years old.
They are creepy with those glass eyes…
I’m going to have to dig those dolls out now and see what they look like. I have seen people collect doll heads and that never sat right with me. It was kinda like seeing “things” preserved in formaldehyde.
Why did you have to mention you had 5 saddles? I’m not trying to compete or anything but my saddle fetish self said “if she’s got 5 you can add one or two more”. 😀
ROFL! I think the craziest part about that is that it was for ONE horse, and then he wasn’t rideable! I lived in hope, though.
I am right there with you! Mine has an ever changing shape. Luckily he’s still sound but who knows that could change in a blink. Knock on wood.
Yours is lucky though. He can probably get buy on his big personality even if he was too lame to ride.
Ah yes, that personality… Today he was in between peeved that he was asked to lunge and enjoying being out. I think I could teach him to roll over for a carrot. We started doing those stretches after he’s done working off some steam and the little darling seems to have it down.
You could always get Amanduh to come and teach you how to lunge? LOL
Oh! Your so funny today! I like my horse personality and all. 😀
Those doll heads are really creepy when people turn them into night lights. Remember seeing them a few years ago
Oh! That’s creep for sure!
SUPER creepy! I might do that in my back yard!
From the tree!!! Solar lights 😂😂
LOL! Things like that amuse me. My family is constantly creeped out by my ghoulish amusements.
Halloween is a big deal with my kids, we make ghosts out of tomotato cages (with the lights,) we hang other ghosts from the tree and lamp posts. They even talked me into a big spider that climbs the fence and it has purple lights **GROSS**. We may have to hang the doll heads this year from the carport 😂
Halloween has always been a big deal at our house too. I’ve always though the dress up part is way too much fun.
Oh no! Those poor innocents down the pipeline all for a wall ornament!
I think Facebook is a pain in the butt this last year. I started to use it as an easy way to keep in touch but it’s become a three headed beast.
@not drinking, YES! FB is a three headed beast nowadays. Perfect description. I’m torn between deleting my account or just deleting all my “friends” b/c some of my family members will only communicate on FB (which makes me nuts).
I’m keeping mine up only to not offend family anymore than I have. 😞 I think another purge is in order though. Even purging some people Facebook is messing around with what I do or don’t see on my feed and that’s irritating.
OG , i think you should share all of the Shedrow confessions post to your Facebook if they don’t like it they can leave. Lol
I had Breyers as a kid but my Barbies were the kind that the legs didn’t bend so they couldn’t ride the Breyers. All the Breyers remained unbroken and later became feral and ran off with the trolls. The Barbies were too self centered and only cared about their outfits, Ken and their corvette they moved on as well.
My life was complete when they came out with Brenda Breyer who could properly ride the Breyers. Until then I had a Fonzie doll that my mom made proper riding clothes for.
Love that!
LMAO!
My parents strongly discouraged my interest in all things horse in a feeble attempt to assuage my horse craziness (I was born with it!). I never had a Breyer, they wouldn’t let me get cowboy boots, no, I could NOT pet the horsey etc etc. Abooose! So I just went and bid on a Breyer on EBAY. HA!
LOL! My honey has started collecting them each Christmas for me since I haven’t been able to ride. I love the Holiday Breyers!
The stirrup ornaments are quite beautiful. My mother has several years of those. I have a lot of the racehorse Christmas ornaments.
There certainly are some very beautiful ones. I get the Breyer Carousel Ornament each Christmas.
Y’all have got me on ebay looking at Breyers now!
LOL, now that I’m finally almost all caught up on comments I was thinking of heading over there, too
I hope you win! With your deprived childhood you deserve to have a full shelf of them.
Thank you! I hope I win too, but now three other people are watching and I’m getting paranoid. I want this Breyer! It looks just like my favorite boy.
I wish I could justify the expense of getting a completely customized Breyer. Some of them are just beautiful.
My mother likes creepy dolls. She has one now that was in my grandmother’s hot as hell attic, in a box of packing peanuts for over 30 years. You can see where the peanuts actually melted to it’s face, and half the hair is missing. I just paid for my purchases on eBay, not to shabby. $20 for my breyers and shipping. My prize find was the black and white Western horse breyer that came with his saddle and bridle. From my digging he is at least from the 60s, and I only paid $1 plus shipping.
That’s a really good find. If I wanted to get ambitious, there are ones in my collection that are probably worth some decent money as they are mostly all discontinued and that was from a time that Breyer didn’t just keep recycling molds. I even have the original box for the laying down Appy foal. I haven’t dusted any of that stuff in ages though.
Dusting? Is that part of this house keeping thing I hear about?
I’m pretty sure I can ride some of my dust bunnies.
Lol! I could probably grow something in my dust.
But the litter boxes are scooped daily!
Just get some of those craft google eyes and put them on them and pretend they are pets! I keep meaning to have some of them in my pocket when I go grocery shopping and just stick them on random produce.
Omg so damn funny!
Lol!
My house is dusted from 3ft down, anything the kids can reach or a dog tail 😂😂😂. Occasionally the cats get the higher parts 😂😂😂
Lol!
LOL!!! I actually don’t mind dusting. I prefer it over mopping or doing dishes.
I HATE doing dishes!!!!
LOL! So I hear!
😀
I had 2 Breyers growing up, one of which was the laying down appy foal, the other was the palomino TWH, I have been casually trying to find another TWH since I have no idea where mine ended up.
I have the Midnight Sun TWH Breyer still in all his big lick glory. LOL
Wow!! What a deal!
I really want to get my hands on Le Fire and Suscieon (sp?), but I am a cheap collector and really do not want to pay $100 for them. I did get a Legionario III and a trotter from the 80s, and Sgt Pepper, they will be here in a week. Love being able to grab them for $1. This is why my parents should have stepped up and bought me breyers as a child. It would have stopped what I am doing now in my tracks. I perfer my breyers to be no younger than 2000, but I really love the ones from before the 80s.
I still like looking at them adn I’m glad I’m not a kid. I’d totally need everything from barns to trucks to trailers and that gets expensive. I used to save my allowance and buy Breyers about once a month or so. I had all the tack out at the time which wasn’t much but still awesome and my mom made stable blankets for me. My earlier ones are pretty dinged up because I played hard with them!
Shed, there’s a Susecion and Le Fire togeather on EBay w starting bid @ $100.!
I had stopped collecting by the times they came out. Mine are all old.
So are mine! They’re all wrapped in paper in a big box in the rafters!
My parents constantly got me barbies to try and distract me so I would cut off all their hair and write all over them like they had tattoos. I was way ahead of my time. They should’ve just gotten me the damn Breyers like I asked all the time!
Bahaha, OG that’s hilarious!
LOL! I’m glad my family was horsey. Not only was my craziness understood, it was encouraged. Was put on my pony before I could walk and was riding infront of my mom in the saddle before I was a year old.
That’s a really cute story! You must have been a funny kid!
My parents weren’t amused by it. I think I freaked them out b/c I always said I wanted to be a cow BOY when I grew up. LOL. I’m all girl tho.
I always thought the boys had much more fun (I am all girl too) but girls had to be lady like and well behaved. I didn’t like conformity much I guess.
My MIL was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. (Same as my FIL). They have three boys. My daughter wears “Punky Brewster” outfits and climbs trees. She finds it hilarious.
Awww! That great that you have a MIL with a sense of humor and doesn’t find fault. I hope I’m a good MIL someday. ❤
Nanna’s, Grandma’s, Grammies, Nonna’s, etc ARE THE BEST!!! Im sire you will be a great one 😘
😀 we can only hope.
I was like that too. It was nothing to do with gender identity, it was about me thinking that cowboys were cool and got to have all the fun.
Cowboys always rode the horses in the movies, very few cowgirls back then. They definitely had more fun than the girls.
The girls were either saloon hookers or housewives and neither really interested me. I just wanted to ride horses!
You gotta admit that Madame on Gun Smoke was pretty cool. I can’t remember her name but that hair!
I made my kids watch McClintock last night!!!
Lol! I kinda watched that the other day too! I crack up at the staged fist fights. 😀 Ya know what I happened to see on Starz (but did not watch) was Barney the Movie!!!
LOL!! I wouldn’t have watched it either 😂
Oh, come on! It’s for the children!
I love you! You love me! We’re a happy family!
Bahahahaha
Barney in Concert is a classic as well!
Lol! Nooooo!!!
I don’t really remember much about Gunsmoke. I spent as much time as possible being outside growing up because if we got underfoot, we’d be given something to do that was less than fun. I didn’t mind going in the truck to kick bales for the cows and stuff like that though.
It was the after dinner family TV in our house, right along with Lawrence Welk. Before we put pipeline on the farm we watered out of the canal via irrigation ditches. I remember riding along for that.
We had a big creek that ran through our ranch. The cows and horses in pastures all drank out of that and we also had several wells for different locations on the place. Our place was literally thousands of acres so it took a long time to take feed out to the cattle depending on what fields they were in. The horses were always in close though and they all came on a whistle.
That’s neat! Our place was small, under 300 acres. We grew alfalfa, wheat and barley. We only had a few head of steers at a time and they were in a large enclosure.
That’s cool !
@ok, I would rather do dishes than cook. I HATE to cook. I like to eat though…. as evidenced by my physique.
Yeah, not a great cook either. I do have about 4 things I make super well if I choose to, but other than that, I pick around and eat leftovers. I’ll cook up a bunch of something and then have dinner off it for several days.
Ummmm! Sugar cookies and Mega Stuffed Oreos!
Yuck, are you one of those people that only eats the stuff and throws away the cookie. The stuff is gross and leaves a film in your mouth.
Nope, I eat the whole damn thing 😀 With loads of coffee 😍 Talk about Dragon breath!
I was the kind of person that used to scrape the stuff out of the center of Oreos and just eat the cookie part.
Yup, me too! It’s the best part. Like eating a piece of cake, love the cake and scrape off the frosting.
Me too!
He should make a group and keep it closed that way only members can see what’s in it, making it less prone to getting reported unless its from someone inside the group.
So am I missing something? not one word about inewsource report yesterday, not one word about sheds blog, noting from the village and now i was reading the milk post and they as in HC have not replied once to anyone’s questions about the milk or scrubbed a few good questions posted today. Do you think they are making their escape plan or what. Something just doesn’t seem right.
Right now I think her strategy is to ignore everything that is inconvenient. Everytime something new gets released, they pretty much maintain radio silence–which works great on the other hand because it means that we can spend time working on what we have sent in instead of getting stressed at all of the new information coming out and trying to cover it, too. Plus, they have secret groups out there, I am sure.
my first thoughts too, but it’s been quiet to long and M’s big mouth can’t seem to go to long without being on live complaining about things. Nows one of those times i almost wished I belonged to some of those groups. But I don’t and am not gonna start now. Once in a while i’ll look at HG and i’ve looked at the poop page 3 times, nothing there, I read blanks page the other day for the first time. But other then here and checking HC’s page that’s all I see for groups, pages, blogs.
If they are secret, you can’t see them, not even the name of the group.
You can see the name of a closed group, but not anything posted until you have joined.
They have to have something secret going on now. They got caught with so many comments about “secret” fundraising ideas that people were getting screenshots of and now everything has gone quiet. After last auction, a villager commented “did WE get that one” and then silence. They’re up to something.
They are fundraising in secret, but it’s all gifts and private buys because they are oh so smart and all.
They haven’t even removed this post yet. Read it carefully.
Shana Davis If the private buyer is paying HiCaliber for caring for Emlyn’s Care Then HiCaliber would be providing and be reimbursed. Apparently an private agreement of some sort was made to save her life and care be given. A private buyer could be anyone within HiCaliber acting as one. Also what about other foals needing milk?
Either way it’s needed.
Whatever the situation with Emlyn is it happened and she needs proper care. Opinions will vary but she still needs care.
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That just dawned on me. If she has a pb wouldn’t they be buying her milk in stead of asking for VI to buy it? I also know there is no PB so…..
Unless Manson or Wrinkles is the PB, which is likely the situation.
She’s also not going to waste all those fake tears and mascara crying for the camera when she can’t actually cash in. I’m sure as soon as they are allowed to openly beg for money again, they will be living on live feed to make up for lost time. They have many layers of secret groups.
I have a feeling they are about to go to ground like a rabbit with a fox on its tail.
What can she say? She’s so guilty. It takes a lot of time to come up with lies to cover lies.
Those documents from DelMar about taking truckloads of donations are pretty straight forward.
How many days until M makes a post backpedaling from that truth?
Yes this might suffice as entry in ‘grifters anonymous self help’ group. Aka GASH.
LOL!!!
How many of you are watching the bella post. The grey TB mare who broke her neck flipping backwards to get away from her dumbass trainer?
Where is that post?
The original was in horrible horseman ship but it’s been shared so many places now, but I think they also made a page called Justice for bella yesterday.
I’ve been following it, but I couldnt bring myself to watch the whole video where the horse died. All I know is that poor horse was terrified from the beginning and she was beautiful. It’s really disturbing.
Was the trainer Fice?
NO
Was kinda a joke.
Fice tortures and abuses his over several days. They don’t get to die quickly.
Yes, I keep hoping one of these horse’s finishes him off. Like for good. Like done deal.
No, it was a woman.
I haven’t heard about `Bella’ yet. I’m not sure I want to.
It’s a horrible video with a very frightened horse. So sad.
here is the 1st video: https://www.facebook.com/2054219818192078/videos/2054225381524855/
Here someone made a utube video of the 2 videos tohether. The original 2nd one showing the horse flipping over has been removed from FB but it could be because of the trainer being investigated.
OMG that is horrible. That poor horse. WTF?
And where is this post?
That “trainer” is down the road from me actually. Didn’t hear too much about her until lately though. I had some of her boarders move to my barn and they were pretty under weight (not for long!).
That video made me sick.
Uh oh something doesn’t smell right in Denmark…..
*EDIT The horses, not the boarders, were under weight. Long week.
Oh believe me, I doubt she’ll be getting anymore business anytime soon.
I simply cannot watch. It’s far too painful. Thank you for bringing it to light though since people need to be aware that not everyone that labels themselves as a trainer is actually a true horseman.
Probably preaching to the choir here, but anybody can hang a shingle as a trainer. If you want to send a horse to somebody, go watch them work with horses. Show up earlier than expected. Talk to other people that have used them. What are their credentials? Who trained them? Who recommends them? You could send a horse to Cleve Wells or Shirley Roth because they get results but spend a few days watching what they do to a horse and you’d run the other direction.
Exactly!
The posts from HC are bad enough. I can’t watch this.
I will wear my Blankround Breyear Horse Rescue shirt today in tribute. Can’t wait until the page rises again. I don’t see any other rescues showing up at thrift stores to save them. And Shedrow, hold your head high. Sometimes a wreath IS rescue.
LOL!!!!
Nice!
Today’s rhyme (a riff on an old nursery rhyme)
Ring around the caldron
Ashes
Ashes
They all fall down
Things are starting to pick up that momentum to begin the spiral on HiCaliber. As of a few minutes ago, nobody is watching / scrubbing comments on their Facebook page. People are looking lost and some are showing their frustrations. Michelle is too busy ‘not being involved on Facebook too much’ on the Shit Stain page. Someone said it’s her running that page – now I read the comments as her and it makes sense.
I think the next few weeks things are gonna go south fast and bad.
She for sure feeds the information to that page but it was originally Pasterfuck and Large Marge running it. Angrid was a contributor as far as info to post as well.
There’s a lot of stuff not getting scrubbed. Interesting.
No ones getting milk according to the feed sheet. And Michelle doesn’t answer questions. If she did they wouldn’t be bleeding followers and volunteers. Don’t hold your breath for any q&a.
Don’t get too excited about their demise either. None of those freeloaders have any place to go. Manson is not going to go down alone or without a fight. She’s just gathering steam to pull a bunch of people under the bus with her and try to lie her way out of this mess she’s created.
I know. Just wishing on my part.😕
Can someone explain why they are posting updates on a 3 year old adoption, but NO responses to their Village’s requests for updates on recent horses? It’s weird. Radio silence indeed.
Also, the documents on the inewsource Document Cloud – WOW those are damning.
I think their general game plan right now is to post as many things that make it look like they’re all happy endings as possible, and just avoid engaging in anything else. That’s the only reason I can really see for Michelle cutting out virtually all lives except for auction. She’s not getting on live and attacking everyone that has something bad to say about her – and really it’s the best game plan they have. Antagonizing people with her lives will just bring more and more bad press.
How many times is she going to post updates from Bri? Let’s hear about some of those OLGH horses maybe. How are they doing?
How many people asked about Boone? No response. Hope he is still there.
FYI… HC admins have not answered comments about needing foal formula in 23 hours… did they split?
I think the admins are stuck in a pickle – the questions are too innocent to delete, but too incriminating to answer. Plus, it seems they’re too busy doing things behind the scenes to scrub Facebook or tell people to EAD.
Maybe some of them woke up. How do you defend the indefensible? Also, Manson tends to turtle when she gets in deep so they could be waiting to hear from her what lies they are supposed to tell.
Speculation approaching. Do you think they are running a Secret fb page, donations and all? The audience would be slim I do think as most hard working people don’t want to support another persons lifestyle especially when it includes fraud.
I don’t think. I know.
No idea and quite truthfully I’m too tired to care anymore. I just want the horses safe and secure and away from them. What the HC humanoids do, I couldn’t give a flying fuck. Yes, I’m burned out (there’s still a hot coal though) and need to do some serious nappage and drawing.
It’s not like the AG isn’t going to turn over every rock since they put the spotlight on their fraudulent activity… Accomplices galore… They will squeal just like the small time drug dealer to get to the big chihuahua. No offense chihuahua’s.
Absolutely!!
You can run but you can’t hide. Shed’s right Manson has no where to go, she can climb on her broom and make a few passes but has to land somewhere. With her celebrity she would be spotted in a minute unless perhaps she puts on a habit and retreats to the nearest nunnery where she can lead the choir and become the Singing Horse Killer.
Except that her singing sound like somebody stepped on her foot and she has a sore throat. I don’t see that as a viable option.
No the holly water would burn her!
And the the Devil himself wouldn’t allow her entrance into his home for she’d give the place a bad name (channeling my Irish Greatgran).
Michelle is one of those folks who makes the old saying “folks go to church to hide their horns” so true. With her mouth though, she would cause any nun to promptly die on the spot from a heart attack.
She already tried that. The Monks gave her the boot off their property. That’s why they moved to the current facility in 2015.
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Lol! Feral Breyer’s!
Following.
Looks like the Dollar Menu has resurfaced. And……hang on
“You can help us stay afloat during this time by adopting a puff, a manageable medical case, a horse with minor soundness issues, a training project, or a baby from the nursery.”
Maybe, just maybe they are serious and seriously considering ALL adoption applications and offers. If the other rescue would still consider taking the baby, I would have to say Kudos to HC. Why would they want the extra work and expense now? Just a fact.
Oh God, someone please get that baby out and take her to what could possibly be her mother. Shed do know of anybody that could do it?
I know lots of people that would love to but you can’t take what isn’t yours and Manson isn’t going to let her go.
It says on there you can adopt a baby from the nursery. Do they mean the sushi foals or do they have others we don’t know about?
I believe the sushi foals have all been adopted now.
Don’t hold your breath. I took a look at the dollar menu and a total of 11 horses are on it. Offloading 11 horses isn’t going to put a dent in the numbers with the way they bring horses in on a weekly basis. It may cut down on overhead when it comes to feeding and maintaining but it won’t last if they just run out and bring in more to replace them. The filly isn’t on the list either but as a private buyer horse she can’t be without raising red flags that it was just a farce.
I hope the list of 11 on the dollar menu isn’t the list for the next pickup of horses killed. And I agree, she’ll just bring more in to replace those, exploit them, then kill them, but not rescue them and treat them well. It’s like a bad movie that for some reason is allowed to keep playing.
I think if people see a horse they are interested, they should apply to adopt it. I don’t agree with people wanting to bail her out so she can continue hoarding and exploiting more animals.
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And some VI are commenting they hope a lot get adopted so they can save more on Tuesday! 🙄🙄
To be fair, there is a whole bunch of stupid going on on both sides of the fence right now. I’ve seen quite a bit of ridiculousness getting spouted from every corner.
That is beyond messed up. Pleading for people to adopt So they don’t have to ‘Euth for space’ and continuing to drag more back. Makes no sense whatsoever. That is not rescue. They are killing animals and lining someone’s pockets while doing it. WTF up followers. Stop demanding everyone else step up and start demanding your rescue do right by the animals they already have.
Well said!
kinda like when she pays for weight-watchers, but gets Del Taco, Chik-Fil-A, Dairy Queen & pizza all the time….or when she begs for horse feed, yet she lets perfectly good donated rice bran sitting/rotting in her driveway
(meant to say “donors” pay…since she lives off donations & is unemployed)
So Romeo Gnome s in FB Jail again until Monday, thanks Sixers. Here is his message:
“You can tell them I called you on the sat phone from the bunker and I’m planning retaliatory strikes of humor, snark, and wit”
I love that he is relentless!!!!
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The SAT phone! I love it!
Right when you think there is a glimmer of hope (they post they need to reduce numbers and so there are a lot of horses available for adoption on the dollar menu) you count to 11 and realize that is not even close to 10% of the 180+ horses stuck there. Sigh. Not a LOT.
Hopefully all the wonderful Villagers will step up and provide good homes for these 11. Or they will add another 70 horses to that list.
I guess this is like throwing rose petals on top of a huge manure pile. It might look pretty but it still stinks.
(My rant below is not directed at you Perlino – I’m just replying here out or convenience)
I’m sure I’m preaching to the choir but I just want to say to the “haters” and “horror girls” that are truly interested in adopting from HC:
Stop posting your adoption offers on the Horror page. It is futile.
1. Change your privacy settings on Facebook so that only you can see your group memberships and friends list and change your “past posts” to private.
2. Stop commenting every five minutes on the Horror page, and consider deleting old, critical, comments. They are checking the page to see if you commented. Comments on public groups are public – your privacy settings don’t matter the moment you actually comment.
3. Submit an actual application, and don’t bitch about the process. They are slow. They are going to run a credit/background check on you. You may disagree with it – but you need to decide if it is worth it to get horses out.
4. Keep a paper trail of all communication between you and the adoption team (in case things go south).
5. If you are rejected, politely request a reason why and document it. Consider submitting evidence to the AG office if it seems like the reason for the denial is questionable (keep in mind they are fully within their rights to reject offers from anyone that has publicly disparaged them, so don’t waste the AG’s time with it if that is the reason for the rejection).
6. If you are rejected you need to disengage. Don’t immediately go blast them on Facebook. They will spin it to show they were justified and you will loose credibility.
7. If you are approved and a horse is delivered in poor condition, document it and submit the evidence to the approptiate authorities. Do this BEFORE posting your story on a public page so the authorities have time to investigate without interference. You need to be patient.
Posting an offer on the Horror page, or even commenting on the page, is a sure way to ensure your offer is ignored, and will accomplish nothing. You could be gazzilionaire with stalls made of gold – they are still going to reject your offer if they know you have made anything that resembles a public criticism.
Hoping off my soapbox now…
Wise and sound advice. I hope anyone wishing to adopt will take it.
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Great and helpful comment.
It contains too much common sense!
Thank you for this. I 100% agree with everything you said.
They don’t know when to STFU in that group. 😉
This works. I think the people crowing about home offers aren’t truly serious about the offer however or they’d have taken these steps themselves.